With the Fourth Overall Pick in the NFL Draft, Seattle Selects Aaron Curry
You can't knock a team for picking the best rated player in the entire draft. Linebacker is not a building block position, but there's more to selecting a pick than getting the most valuable player. Curry has very little chance to bust and that's huge. He not only has very little chance to bust, he has an excellent chance to be a perennial All-Pro. Seattle wants to assemble a great defense, and is oddly doing it from the linebacker out.
Here's the really exciting thing about Curry, he's an incredible fit with what Seattle already has. He's the tall, fast coverage linebacker Hill could never be and Peterson no longer was. He won't have to rush the quarterback in Seattle, that's Hill's job. Should he develop he has that kind of shutdown coverage capability no linebacker has ever had.
Seattle selected the best overall talent, and though I'm not fond of selecting a linebacker so early, it just puts that much more pressure on Seattle adding those building block players throughout the draft. With mixed feelings, but still some excitement, I will say this for sure: Seattle fans will not regret Seattle drafting Aaron Curry, and as the seasons pass and he asserts himself as one of the best linebackers in the NFL, he will be beloved and maybe even legendary. Now, will the team be any good?
Here's my take on Curry:
Positives: He's the best prospect in the draft. Curry is the consensus best linebacker in a strong linebacker class. If he were a running back, his Speed Score would compare to Ronnie Brown. He was productive at Wake Forest, performed well in individual drills at the combine, gives a good interview, is terrifically athletic and punches every criterion one could want in a prospect. If Seattle selects him they will have effectively escaped the loser's curse, drafting a safe prospect with exceptional talent that should contribute for the life of his contract. Curry might be modestly overpaid, but short of calamity, that's about as bad as I can see things working out for the team that drafts Curry.
Negatives: The history of first in class linebackers is not sterling. Excepting rush linebackers, a position so apart it might as well be defensive end, the best first in class linebacker in recent history is Patrick Willis. The 49ers defense barely budged his rookie season, and though after five consecutive seasons of dismal play it moved towards mediocre in 2008, that could be Willis, Nate Clements, Justin Smith, Takeo Spikes, the ouster of Mike Nolan, the ouster of Alex Smith and JT O'Sullivan, the appointment of Mike Singletary, all of the above, regression towards the mean, or all the above. However you slice it, Willis has not been transformative in the way Albert Haynesworth, DeMarcus Ware or Jared Allen have been.
1 recs |
96 comments
|
Comments
This guy should be huge
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Marcus Trufant.
by Chickadee on Apr 25, 2009 1:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like this pick
in an ideal world the best talent available is somewhere else- DE, or DT, or OL.
but…why settle for a worse player elsewhere, just to stay away from linebacker?
by Will Kier on Apr 25, 2009 1:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
..................
Good for Curry.
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 25, 2009 1:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Personally I'm excited to watch Curry on the field.
by BrianL on Apr 25, 2009 1:47 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Me too. We have a downright ferocious LB'ing corps
by Misfit74 on Apr 25, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We HAD a downright ferocious LB'ing corps
and we went 4-12
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture
by Eegah on Apr 25, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We just need a FS now
It’ll work!
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Marcus Trufant.
by Chickadee on Apr 25, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, in principle
but Seattle didn’t go 4-12 because its linebackers. So the correlation isn’t really that significant other than to say that a great linebacker corps does not make a great team or even great defense.
by John Morgan on Apr 25, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, at least I got the "in principle" :)
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture
by Eegah on Apr 25, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd
and ditto
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Marcus Trufant.
by Chickadee on Apr 25, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I rec'd Brian
not that you dont deserve it
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Marcus Trufant.
by Chickadee on Apr 25, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the coverage vs. blitzing part of your writeup.
Though anticlimactic, Curry is a stud. Welcome aboard. I hope we resign Hill.
by Misfit74 on Apr 25, 2009 1:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We had Lofa, Hill and JP a year ago.
What did that get us?
Basically we used our #4 pick to get younger at one position. That’s it. And that’s not even doing anything about Hill’s contract situation.
by djafrot on Apr 25, 2009 1:48 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Well, yes, that trio didn't make the team
but it was exceptionally talented and gave the team a chance at an elite defense.
by John Morgan on Apr 25, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A chance, yes, but why not just keep it as it is and improve in other spots?
Is Curry that much better than JP? JP was healthy and could have been re-structured for a late-career contract.
I just don’t see a whole lot of upside here. Curry could be a truly exceptional linebacker, but I don’t see a net team improvement as much as we would have had from a franchise QB in Sanchez, Crabtree, an OT, or ESPECIALLY a trade down.
by djafrot on Apr 25, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not the same net improvement
but it’s safe, and given the huge financial risk, that’s significant.
by John Morgan on Apr 25, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was JP a financial risk?
Because that’s really what we’ve done is replace JP with Curry. And if we’ve done it to potentially replace Hill I’ll be really displeased.
by djafrot on Apr 25, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peterson is a freak, right
but he’s also soon to be 31. It’s one thing to say Peterson should or could defy the age curve, but it’s another to bank on it. Also, there is a decent chance that Curry just blows Peterson away. He’s really that talented. You never, ever see so much consensus that a linebacker is the player in a draft. Curry is special, that’s for sure.
by John Morgan on Apr 25, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
best
and remove “so much”, just “consensus”.
by John Morgan on Apr 25, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, I'll agree that Curry certainly is a money player.
He could very well be an all-pro. But so will Sanchez and Crabtree in my opinion, and we have greater needs at those spots.
I seem to remember you being very, very high on keeping JP when there was trade talk some six months ago.
I would say that the risk that Curry isn’t that game-changing LB at 4 is just as good as any risk that Sanchez or Crabtree present, when you consider we already had a great trio of LB’s already.
by djafrot on Apr 25, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanted Seattle to keep Peterson
assuming it was Peterson or Hill. The team decided on Hill. I was worried the team would continue to play Hill like a weakside linebacker, playing the short zone and chasing tight end and slot receivers. With this pick, Hill is now for sure the new Peterson, and Curry the new Hill. That’s super-exciting.
by John Morgan on Apr 25, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So we're going to keep all three?
Oh God, financial suicide. All of Lofa, Hill and Curry’s contracts will hit astronomical levels within a couple of years. Talk about all your eggs in one basket.
by djafrot on Apr 25, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, how much money are we willing to put in the LB position?
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture
by Eegah on Apr 25, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assume we will keep all three
After that, I don’t know. I hope Seattle figures out a way to restructure their contracts. Perhaps knock one guy’s cap hit down one year, and knock another guy’s cap hit down the next year.
by John Morgan on Apr 25, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, good luck TR.
Especially considering Hill is in a contract year and will probably amass a zillion tackles, earning him a lot of FA attention.
by djafrot on Apr 25, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes,
this is so absurdly ridiculous that we’re back in the exact same position as we were with Peterson.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 25, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Incorrect assumption
Does this change your view of the pick at all?
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture
by Eegah on Apr 26, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"here is a decent chance that Curry just blows Peterson away. "
I’ll bet this is wrong.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 25, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Peterson didn't really have a good year last year.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Apr 25, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see how you can't blame the coaching for that.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 25, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not blaming the coaching, and don't see how you could have inferred that from my post.
Peterson is in his decline, and old. Curry probably won’t be a Peterson level contributor this year, but it’s not impossible that he could be better.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Apr 26, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How else to you get a young stud qb WITHOUT it being a huge financial risk?
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture
by Eegah on Apr 25, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right, use blind stinking luck to draft Tom Brady
Let’s go that route. I want to go to there.
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture
by Eegah on Apr 26, 2009 12:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for this
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture
by Eegah on Apr 25, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This leaves me wondering
if Curry will be able to disguise some of our failings in pass coverage. Or at least make them harder to exploit, if teams actually become worried about throwing over the middle on us because of him.
by Fear on Apr 25, 2009 1:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If we take a safety round two
Our D should be elite
OHPLEASE
OHPLEASE
OHPLEASE
OHPLEASE
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Marcus Trufant.
by Chickadee on Apr 25, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we took a o-lineman
we traded for the bears’s second. but gave them a 3rd and 4th. we took Max Unger OL. from Oregon I think
by hawkspwn123 on Apr 25, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
I am so happy about this pick. I wanted him while we had JP, and I even said it was a possibility of trading JP and getting Curry in the draft. I’m ecstatic!
by SoCalHawksFan on Apr 25, 2009 1:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Raji will make more of an impact
Remember everyone saying Peterson was the best player at an unimportant position? Can Curry pull that off?
by blackhalobender on Apr 25, 2009 2:17 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
BJ Raji is an overrated sack of shit.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Apr 25, 2009 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh, too true
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 25, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kelly Jennings is going to be so sad....
by Nate Dogg on Apr 25, 2009 2:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
OMG ANOTHER GIANT WR to cover
Hoe is curry going to help against Boldin Fitz and Crabtree?
by blackhalobender on Apr 25, 2009 2:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
we should get ken lucas
signing lucas to a 1 or 2 year deal would be nice. he’s aggressive and is a tall corner at 6’1. would be able to defend fitz and crabs really nice. only thing is he might get us penalized for illegal contacts, interefences, or face masks when in coverage
by hawkspwn123 on Apr 25, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's also been awful the last two seasons.
I want to sign him just because of his height and for the depth, but it would be erroneous to assume he’s the answer to Fitzgerald, Boldin, and now Crabtree.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 25, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Knew they wouldn't go RB.
stupid pundits
by Misfit74 on Apr 25, 2009 2:45 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
John - can you provide the link to your Aaron Curry breakdown post?
i just tried searching under “aaron curry” and it did not show up. thanks!
by glennergy on Apr 25, 2009 3:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Done
And thanks for the suggestion.
by John Morgan on Apr 25, 2009 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if anyone linked this yet...
But it made me smile a little bit.
by Azimeir on Apr 25, 2009 3:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
He likes neon gloves and shoes.
Weez the juice!!
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 25, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For everyone's complaining about Curry....
Don’t forget that JP often graded out as Seattles least assignment correct defender… not just LB… but defender.
Hill moving back to his natural SSLB spot and Curry tremendous coverage ability at WSLB should be a net improvement.
Remember all the problems Seattle had in allowing 3rd down conversions?
Bring Your Game, Leave Your Name.
by iverson2169 on Apr 25, 2009 4:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Worse than Russell?
I smell bullshit.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 25, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And our secondary is still shit, Curry isn't going to be a tremendous improvement in that regard.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 25, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes he will
in a big way. Assignment breakdown JP and coverage weak Hill for your underneath? Definitely affects what is called, where the safeties are placed and how they react to receivers entering those underneath zones. Traded for Hill blitzing more and Curry covering.
Our CB corps has tremendous depth. Three above average nicklebacks, just no true #2.
by jacobstevens on Apr 25, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kelly Jennings is an above average nickelback?
News to me. I was under the impression he’s a #2 or bust.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 25, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Even as a starter he moved inside on 3-wide sets with Wilson on the outside. Ricky Manning, Jacque Reeves, Eric Green, these are your average nickelbacks. Jennings is an average starter who is slim and lacks ball skills. Will never be a Pro Bowler. But an above average nickelback.
by jacobstevens on Apr 25, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We may well regret this pick
if Crabtree turns into an elite WR for SF . . .
This does make me wonder, though, if Doug might be right and we might see Hill dealt in the next hour or so.
by The Ancient Mariner on Apr 25, 2009 4:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Hill has to sign the tender in order to be traded...
Please correct me if I’m wrong.
Weez the juice!!
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 25, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently so.
I’d prefer to ditch Hill now for whatever we can get, but now it looks like we’ll have to wait until he signs the tender before moving him. So it won’t be for a draft pick this year…. and to be honest, I don’t think TR wants picks this year anyhow.
by djafrot on Apr 25, 2009 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On of those rare, high-talent Seattle defensive picks
Curry is one of those rare defensive players that will make you go "ooohhhhh" with his ability. It reminds me of when we picked Easley (1981, 4th overall) and Tez (1990, 3rd overall.)
I’m gonna love this guy. Can the season start now? Please?
I vow to never post a cartoon picture of spurting diarrhea on a credible blog.
/dick joke
by Bloof on Apr 25, 2009 5:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
curry's contract
how long and how much are the hwaks gonna pay curry?
by hawkspwn123 on Apr 25, 2009 6:22 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think we'll get that information for a while.
They still have to go through negotiations and such.
Weez the juice!!
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 25, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But if I had to put my fingers on a timetable...
I’d guess that we won’t learn what sort of deal that Curry would get until the middle of June or so…
Weez the juice!!
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 25, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We shall see
McFadden got six years, $60 million, but only $26 million guaranteed.
by John Morgan on Apr 25, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No matter what, he'll be the highest paid linebacker in NFL history.
by SeaTownBlueDevil on Apr 25, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course, the whole NFL history thing is pretty much
unnecessary. With the way contracts are shooting up, there’s a new “highest paid xxxxx in NFL history” every year.
by SeaTownBlueDevil on Apr 25, 2009 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Still annoying though.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 25, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curry just turned 23 this month.
8 years younger than JP is no joke. We’re going to have to draft well and build for the future, because our team isn’t getting any younger.
If you told me this morning that we would end up with Aaron Curry, Max Unger, and Denver’s 2010 1st rounder, while losing our 3rd and 4th round picks, I would have slapped you in the face for saying something so ridiculous.
by PattyB on Apr 25, 2009 6:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Especially on offense.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 25, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come to think of it
I had curry today for lunch… it was a sign!
by aerozeppelin on Apr 25, 2009 6:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know about you guys
But I am fucking happy.
Best LB in the draft, best Center in the draft and a first next year.
by SPENCEMAN on Apr 25, 2009 7:16 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Second, maybe third best center.
But easily the most versatile and a Northwest product, I’ll take it.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 25, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw him rated first in a lot of places
And in my opinion he is the best. I’m allowed to have an opinion right?
by SPENCEMAN on Apr 25, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, that's fine. I like Unger the best anyway.
Just saying that the general consensus was that Mack was better as a true center, and maybe Eric Wood too (though I have no idea how the hell he was drafted in the first).
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 25, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
our draft today
I think we did well taking curry and unger but we have no 3rd, 4th, and 5th round picks only a 6th and three 7ths left
by hawkspwn123 on Apr 25, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We still have our 5th round pick
by aerozeppelin on Apr 25, 2009 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope
we lost our fifth to denver in the keary colbert trade (who we cut later in the season) denver used that fifth in a trade for cutler
by hawkspwn123 on Apr 25, 2009 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the Peterson/Redding trade, for clarification purposes
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Apr 25, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah forgot
we got that pick for the JP trade
by hawkspwn123 on Apr 25, 2009 7:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
will curry be glenn dorsey?
i like the fact that we got curry at 4(and I have full confidence in this guy to be a good impact guy) but will he be one of those slumpers like glenn dorsey? Thoughts on the issue?
by hawkspwn123 on Apr 25, 2009 7:52 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dorsey's only been a pro one year.
You gotta give him more time to develop before you can call him a slumper. Besides, I can’t name one other DL they have which is an indicator that they probably aren’t very good. Hence, Dorsey was probably double and maybe triple teamed all year.
by Tyopiod on Apr 25, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we bring VBJohnson back for a guest commentary?
I’d love to hear his thoughts on this draft so far.
by SeaTownBlueDevil on Apr 25, 2009 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

by 

















