Seattle Trades Third and Fourth Round Selections for Max Unger, Offensive Lineman
Max Unger
Birthdate: April 14, 1986
Height/Weight: 6' 4 5/8"/309
Position: OL
College: Oregon, 51 starts
NFL Combine: 7.39 three cone drill, 22 reps at 225, 4.5 short shuttle
My take: Unger is what you want in a guard in a traditional zone blocking system. He's almost the prototype: strengths and weaknesses. Unger isn't particularly strong, isn't particularly football strong, and the truth is he would not make a very successful tackle, guard or center in most offenses. I particularly worry about his play at center. With much of the league converting to a 3-4, centers are no longer heady support blockers. They are the man opposite the nose tackle, the strongest players in football. The 3-4 system suffers no easy double teams. Protect your center by doubling with a guard and expose a gap. A modern center must be stout at the point of attack and that's not Unger.
Unger is athletic for an interior lineman. He has skilled feet and great technique. He keeps himself low on the move and moves well through traffic. He diagnoses opposing defenses and has ideal football intelligence for a zone blocking scheme. I split time watching Unger and Chung and the two sort of represent opposite ideals. Chung is a talented player that's all over the field, but really raw. I watched Chung and imagined what he could be with professional experience and strong surrounding talent. You always knew where Unger was and his talent matches his production, because he's polished, finished. I watched Unger and saw what Unger is and understood he will fill in the spaces and make the players around him better, but will never be great on his own. I see Unger as a Mark Sclereth type: Functionally undersized and getting most of his movement through double teams, but good sometimes very good and an important part of a dominant unit.
Tim Ruskell errs towards players that can produce right away. Seattle has an underreported hole at left guard. Mike Wahle could fill it, but counting on Mike Wahle is asking for a redo of 2008's wide receiver situation. Seattle could move Ray Willis to left, but he's not a natural fit, or plug in Rob Sims, but Sims is a pass blocker first and doesn't move well through garbage. The best choice is to find a natural fit and that's Unger. In a weak class for guards, a team in need needs an open mind to filling the position. It doesn't take Dadaist leaps to envision Unger at guard, but a defined position can have a surprising inertia in the NFL and Unger is a center. I hope Seattle escapes such stupidity, because to be gravely honest, the Seahawks wish to run ball 500 times next season, and this rushing attack, sewed together offensive line and all, makes that look like 500 stabs at our playoff hopes.
Update: Unger is the versatile, intelligent interior offensive lineman Seattle needed to make it's zone blocking scheme work. He's joining a talent unit in need of a leader. He is that leader. He will make Mansfield Wrotto attack the right guy. He will likely take over line calling duties from Chris Spencer. He will keep this unit charged and attacking and ruthless and...
I'm totally jacked Seattle selected an offensive lineman. They needed one, and no one player could have made this engine go like Unger.
Update II: I think we will look at back and think of Unger as the Lofa Tatupu of the offensive line. A player that unites and strengthens the players around him. A guy who is always in the middle of the highlight if not the highlight himself.
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so, a guard
not bad. Guess they’re not that down on Spencer.
by Will Kier on Apr 25, 2009 5:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Would you? I've defended him in the past but his injury concerns
and sacks given up (3.5 last year) are not good. For a 1st rounder I want to see fresh blood at that position.
Fun Fact: If Patrick Chung and Marcus Trufant were to have a helmet-to-helmet collision, the world would explode.
by SSreporters on Apr 25, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I LOVE THIS!!!
Fun Fact: If Patrick Chung and Marcus Trufant were to have a helmet-to-helmet collision, the world would explode.
by SSreporters on Apr 25, 2009 5:56 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This kind of undues the greatness of the 2nd for 1st swap.
No safety, iffy player, not so good….
Kinda bummed about this one.
by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 25, 2009 5:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
when the offensive line comes alive, you’ll feel different.
by John Morgan on Apr 25, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have since reconsidered my opinion
and am stoked.
by Woodinville_12thMan on Apr 25, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like today's Christmas!
This is the 2nd draft in a row where the Seahawks got one of guys that I wanted in the 2nd round!
Weez the juice!!
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 25, 2009 6:00 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This is sweet, but I doubt he'll be a guard.
The Chris Spencer era is over.
by shams on Apr 25, 2009 6:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
What happened to Duke Robinson?
he kick a puppy or something?
by Snuffleupagus on Apr 25, 2009 6:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
no kidding
the Levitre guy went before him. Wasn’t Duke a projected 1st rounder if he came out last year?
by maninvan on Apr 25, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't fiture this out
I thought for sure we made that trade to pick Duke. I’m not unhappy with Unger, but I’m just confused. wtf?
by Snuffleupagus on Apr 25, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Russell is going to be starting again next year, isn't he?
by abender20 on Apr 25, 2009 6:02 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Patience my friend. Patience.
Fun Fact: If Patrick Chung and Marcus Trufant were to have a helmet-to-helmet collision, the world would explode.
by SSreporters on Apr 25, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
however
if he’s that miserable aren’t we talking about mediocre lower draft talent/ replacement level FA being an upgrade?
by Will Kier on Apr 25, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hamlin in the 5th maybe?
ESPN still has 6 safeties ahead of him…
by michaelfox99 on Apr 25, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully.
Got my fingers crossed.
Weez the juice!!
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 25, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like a bit of a doofus.
I’m not sold on this guy – I think he’ll get overpowered a lot.
But I was wrong about Lofa, too.
I vow to never post a cartoon picture of spurting diarrhea on a credible blog.
/dick joke
by Bloof on Apr 25, 2009 6:06 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Eagles got Shady McCoy.
Nice. The new Westbrook.
by Misfit74 on Apr 25, 2009 6:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
My #1 wish for this draft
was a Safety in the first 3 rounds so that there would be organizaltional pressure to bench Russell. Now I am left hoping that they have seen something special in Adams.
I am wondering if this Unger pickup means he will be battling with Wrotto/Wahle/Sims/Willis for a guard spot or playing center and letting Spencer battle those four for a guard spot. The whole value of Unger is that he is so polished but he is fighting against 5 guys with talent and/or upside and pro experience at the three spots he could play. I don’t really get it.
Wouldn’t
Jones (healthy)/ Spencer/Unger/Locklear/Willis be a silly good line?
by michaelfox99 on Apr 25, 2009 6:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
reality is
If Ruskelly saw Safety as a real ‘need’ we would have signed one in FA.
by michaelfox99 on Apr 25, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we did bring in J Phillips
for a visit, right?
by maninvan on Apr 25, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
whoops FA
yeah… I wouldn’t mind moving one of LoJack/Tapp/Atkins to get back in here, whoever they don’t plan on playing anyways, considering Redding is supposed to play end.
by michaelfox99 on Apr 25, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry I should have been clearer
I meant we brought in the Free agent safety from TB, Jermaine Phillips. I thought the interest was genuine
by maninvan on Apr 25, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this seems like + insurance if Jones can't come back all the way
having too much OL talent is usually not a bad thing.
plus it prevents whatshisface (the guy who played LT at the end of the Week 17 Cards game) from making an appearance.
by Will Kier on Apr 25, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Greg Knapp and Mike Solari is very, very happy with this pick.
Weez the juice!!
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 25, 2009 6:09 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
For what it's worth . . .
Mayock thought Unger was the best interior lineman in this draft . . .
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80f92ea1
by HawksFan on Apr 25, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's worth a lot to me.
Mayock is a good scout imo
by maninvan on Apr 25, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He said that?
Wow. I am even more ecstatic about getting Unger now!
Weez the juice!!
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 25, 2009 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a fan of this trade
I want Shonn Green in the 4th :(
by Trepidation on Apr 25, 2009 6:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Today has taught me one thing:
TR thinks we have a lot of potential on the team as it is and doesn’t want to bring in so many people that we end up running out of room on the roster. Thus he defers one pick until next year (the trade for the first) and combines two picks into one.
It might explain why he didn’t trade down in the first even when it looks pretty clear that the Jets were looking to move up.
by djafrot on Apr 25, 2009 6:21 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought the same thing
And really, while some spots can be upgraded and some depth is needed, looking at starting talent, the issues remaining are safety which may be resolved by Jamar Adams, and unmitigated injury risk at QB. Which isn’t unmitigated for this year, only unmitigated for the future — and now, with Denver’s 1st, not.
by jacobstevens on Apr 25, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
in 3rd and 4th round
do you think the hawks going to try to trade into those rounds and pick up a safety to replace russell and maybe a bigger corner?
by hawkspwn123 on Apr 25, 2009 6:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Doug Farrar and I will be doing a Podcast at 7pm PST
I’ll post the podcast after we record it, or you can go to the Talk Shoe page and listen to it streamed live.
by John Morgan on Apr 25, 2009 6:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
where can i find talk shoe?
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by iverson2169 on Apr 25, 2009 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm ecstatic about Unger.
I no longer feel like I have to pee (that much). I still want RB and S….and Duke! Sean Smith…wtf?
by Misfit74 on Apr 25, 2009 6:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Geniusest?
Okay, that’s probably stretching things a bit.
by J.L. White on Apr 25, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really like the pick, but I also really want a safety.
I just hate Brian Russell so so much. That is my dream for tomorrow.
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on Apr 25, 2009 6:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Safety would be a good pick for 2009
But sometimes you need to look farther ahead when picking these guys. Curry and Unger (and Denver’s first next year) provides great long-term value.
But whatever we can do to throw Russell out on the street is okay with me, as well.
by J.L. White on Apr 25, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I have no complaints with those picks that we made
But OHMYGODBRUSS
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on Apr 25, 2009 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There is still good Safetys on the board.
I like this pick.
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 25, 2009 6:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Question is how many of them will be left after the 3rd and 4th rounds are done?
Weez the juice!!
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 25, 2009 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to believe than almost any safety would be an improvement.
by SuperShadow on Apr 25, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, really
again, if the bar is “better then Brian Russell”, we’re looking at
A) Jamar Adams/CJ Wallace
B) potential late round pick
or
C) replacement level FA signing
all being plausible alternatives. There are still many opportunities out there to keep Russell from starting in September.
by Will Kier on Apr 25, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
trading some players
do u think ruskel is gonna trade spencer for some picks. are there any other players that he should trade for maybe some 2010 picks or late-rounders?
by hawkspwn123 on Apr 25, 2009 7:14 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Dumb Trade by a Dumb GM
I told everyone that Michael Johnson was going to fall to the 3rd Round. Unger will be good but giving up a 3rd and 4th is just plain stupid. We should’ve just drafted him 37th if we liked him that much. And then drafted Michael Johnson in the 3rd Round…or maybe not since we drafted Curry 4th, when we could’ve drafted Crabtree. We could’ve left with Crabtree, Unger, and Michael Johnson (come to Sun) without losing a 3rd and 4th round pick. Denvers pick next year means nothing to this team now. We have holes we have to fill…The funny thing is is that this years draft is better in the 3rd-5th round then in the 1st…and we squandered those picks along with drafted a LB that this draft had plenty of. Rey Maueluga fell to our 37th pick. Ruskell is a bum and Holmgren was a better GM then him. Please rehire Randy Mueller.
by Mr. Blache III on Apr 25, 2009 7:37 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Denvers 1st next year.
Is going to be our next franchise QB.
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 25, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO!
Our Franchise QB is Hasslebeck…Let’s stop writing this 3 time Pro Bowler off. Kurt Warner is 38…but that measurement Hasslebeck has another 4 years in him. We’ll cross the QB bridge when we get there. We don’t need to draft a frickin QB! We need to trade for one when the time is write….ala Jay Cutler….ala, Brett Farve,. ala, Matt Hasslebeck.
by Mr. Blache III on Apr 25, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you don't want a QB
whatever. That’s another discussion. But don’t look at Unger as our 2nd round pick and then we skip 3rd & 4th. It’s
1: Curry
2: 1st round pick
3: Unger
4: 14 spot move for Unger
By draft value chart (use and relevance another discussion) we netted 60 points in trading up. Chicago gave up more, technically, to trade down than we did to trade up. it’s a sign that Ruskell believes in the talent on the roster.
by jacobstevens on Apr 25, 2009 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As inane as they are, you've got to give him props for calling Michael Johnson falling to the third.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 25, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My God.
You really are citing evidence that Hasselbeck will play fine till he’s told because Warner did?
WARNER IS THE EXCEPTION TO THE RULE.
He never has had the injury history of Hasselbeck.
by redwolf75 on Apr 25, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok...
Fact: Hasselbeck is our starting QB
Fact: Hasselbeck is 34 years old
Fact: Hasselbeck has a bad back
Fact: Hasselbeck is injury prone anyways
Fact: Kurt Warner, while a great story, is an outlier among outliers
But yes, if you’re arguing we should trade for Quinn/Brohm/some other type that is about to be ready when it’s clear that Beck is no longer starting material, than you’re correct, it’s not a bad plan.
by LantermanC on Apr 25, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please explain to me..
How trading a 2nd round pick for a 1st round pick is a dumb move? Last I checked, a 1st round pick is worth more than a 2nd round pick.
Since it is likely that Denver is not going to be in contention next year, we are quite possibly looking at a top 10 pick next year.
Weez the juice!!
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 25, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stand
in heavy disagreement. This draft so far has renewed my faith in Tim Ruskell and I think we should thank God we have a FO that knows what they’re doing (unlike teams such as Tampa, Oakland, Washington, NYJ, etc.). I think you’ll be singing a different tune when next year’s draft comes around after Denver posts a 6-10 record with Neckbeard at the helm and their sorry excuse for a defense.
I have seen zero wrong with TR’s approach to this draft.
by PRIDEin253 on Apr 26, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why trade 2 picks
to draft the player you want later in the draft? You can get the player you want at 37 so why give up to picks to pick the same player at 49. I understand getting Denvers 1st Round pick for our 37th but I would’ve asked for a 1st in next years along with a 4th in this years for an our 3rd in this years. Basically we woud’ve had:
4th this year and 1st next year
instead we get:
1st next year , lose our 3rd and 4th.
We gave up a pick we didn’t need to give up.
FIRE TR!!!!
by Mr. Blache III on Apr 25, 2009 7:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Some rated Unger as the top Center
and two went in the first round. Even after two went in the first round, no one would have thought Pittsburgh was reaching, to take him 32nd overall.
So you’d rather we take Unger at 37, just to keep 2 second day picks in a weaker draft, than to spend our 2nd, 3rd & 4th on a first round talent and a first round pick that could potentially be 10-15 in a stronger draft???
by jacobstevens on Apr 25, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your thoughts are barely intelligible...
plus your logic is faulty… Denver’s 1st pick is an afterthought in your post, and is more than likely a top 10 pick next year!
in essence:
Curry
Unger
and Denver’s 1st next year (top 10) for a 3rd and 4th.
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by iverson2169 on Apr 25, 2009 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
we will still have our 1st next year
I would understand trading for a 1st round pick in next years draft if we didn’t have a 1st next year…WE DO…and the way that we drafted we may have a top 10 pick next year to!
by Mr. Blache III on Apr 25, 2009 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Having two firsts next season is more valuable than having a third and fourth this season.
by BrianL on Apr 25, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you care about making the playoffs this year or next?
by Mr. Blache III on Apr 25, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Crabtree and a 3rd round pick was what we desperately needed?
Really? You’re going there?
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on Apr 25, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm more interested in having as large of a window of contention as possible.
You, on the other hand, are arguing that a third round and fourth round pick are more valuable than a first round pick.
by BrianL on Apr 25, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention brian... he is arguing that the 3rd and 4th this year are the deal breaker in making the playoffs.
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by iverson2169 on Apr 25, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the point!!!
With two first round picks, we all but guarantee ourselves the franchise QB we will be looking for. Kurt Warner is the exception to the rule at 38. You dont manage risk by betting your QB will be productive well past the typical ball curve would suggest.
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by iverson2169 on Apr 25, 2009 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Farve, Garcia, and Warner are exceptions to the rule.
Banking on your QB to play that well at that age is asking for trouble.
by BrianL on Apr 25, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre has been trash for several seasons now aside from the 2007 resurgence which wasn't attributed to him.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 25, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
....Which I suppose is irrelevant since we both agree on this point anyway
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Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 25, 2009 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre was bad last year
And Hasselbeck is not nearly as talented as Favre
by Nate Dogg on Apr 25, 2009 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Farve was injured last year
He was hurt mid year and tried to gut it out. This guy was lights out in 2007 and hurt us bigtime in the playoffs.
by Mr. Blache III on Apr 25, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The logic in getting the player that you want at 49 as opposed to 37 is quite sound.
Getting a 1st round pick while you’re at it is amazing. I don’t know about you, but if you could trade a 3rd and 4th round pick for a 1st round pick, would you? I would.
I think it was genius.
Weez the juice!!
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 25, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I like Michael Johnson…we could’ve had him in the 3rd Round, we could add Hamlin in the 4th, he won’t be there in the 6th! WE NEED Help now.
We could’ve left with
1. Crabtree
2. Unger
3. Michael Johnson
4.Hamlin
or
1. Crabtree
2. Rey Mauelga
3. best OL on the board or Micahel Johnson.
4. Hamlin
by Mr. Blache III on Apr 25, 2009 7:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maluega? So we do what with our other MLB....?
what’s his name? It’ll come to me….
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by iverson2169 on Apr 25, 2009 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh yeah
Lofa Tatupu
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by iverson2169 on Apr 25, 2009 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WE DRAFTED CURRY
so what do we do with our Line backers now….and we have to pay him 4th pick money along with the franchise money we have in Leroy hill…That’s to much money tied into LB"s. We could’ve payed Maluega 2nd round money and then played hardball with Leroy Hill next year or even trade him for a 2nd -3rd round pick.
by Mr. Blache III on Apr 25, 2009 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maluega is a MLB!!!
Same as Lofa!!!
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by iverson2169 on Apr 25, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was still 29th on the big board.
He had great value falling to us at 37…so did Connor Barwin…which could play DE or OLB…I love this guy…he’s freak on the field…I just think players fell into our lap that cold help us now…not a QB next year that is still going to have to get groomed for a year.
by Mr. Blache III on Apr 25, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
what your arguing is that the 3rd and 4th break our playoff chances.
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by iverson2169 on Apr 25, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He might be a good value at 37
but getting a first round pick in exchange for a second round pick is an even better deal.
by BrianL on Apr 25, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and a potential top 10 pick at that.
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by iverson2169 on Apr 25, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
29th pick is great value at 37
29th pick next year is close to worst-case scenario with this Broncos trade, and it actually better value, not just equal, on the assumption that the talent next year will be better.
by jacobstevens on Apr 25, 2009 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I implore you again..... dont have a IV
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by iverson2169 on Apr 25, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I believe he is a third... (Mr Blanche III)
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by iverson2169 on Apr 25, 2009 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maluega Scouting
Although he lacks the hip fluidity to stay with NFL backs in man coverage he can hold his own in zone coverage and is a strong interior pass-rusher.
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by iverson2169 on Apr 25, 2009 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you..
Were going cover 2 this year and I think he’s a good fit for that style of Defense
by Mr. Blache III on Apr 25, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
at MLB..... wow this is painful to watch
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by iverson2169 on Apr 25, 2009 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
show me a single scouting report that shows Maluega projected at OLB
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by iverson2169 on Apr 25, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I personally like Barwin instead...
I just used Maluega as an example of the best player available mold….you will see how he is a beast next year. He would also give us insurance for Lofa who had a very subpar year last year. He’s bigger and I think more explosive…Lofa looked very pedestrian last year.
by Mr. Blache III on Apr 25, 2009 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate to say it, but I kind of agree with part of what you're saying.
Unger? Or Michael Johnson / Juaquin Igleesias and Shipley?
Even so, Ruskell does have a good record when trading up in the 2nd to get his guy with Carlson and Lofa.
by LantermanC on Apr 26, 2009 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care about points
I care about players….If we do not make the playoffs this year Tim Ruskell won’t even be making the 1st round pick he netted this year.
by Mr. Blache III on Apr 25, 2009 7:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Please learn to utilize the "reply to" function.
by redwolf75 on Apr 25, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
...and please please don't have a IV
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by iverson2169 on Apr 25, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on, dude. That's just cold.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 25, 2009 10:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
sweet
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by iverson2169 on Apr 25, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just have a hard time allowing guys like this represent the Hawks point of views to others...
Had to give it a try
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by iverson2169 on Apr 25, 2009 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's classic troll behavior
Never stick to a point. Change the subject when proven wrong. Make lots of soaring unsupported statements. Claim knowledge in retrospect now that current events have proven it true. Etc.
You won’t convince him, only egg him on.
by John Morgan on Apr 25, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Noted... Im listening to the podcast now... helping bring my mood back inline
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by iverson2169 on Apr 25, 2009 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol..pretty funny John.
was I wrong about Michael Johnson falling to the 3rd Round…I’m pretty sure I mentioned that in your 2nd Round analysis. Everyone thought he wouldn’t fall that far. Very thin line between Nut and Genius…lol…I don’t mind being the nut…
by Mr. Blache III on Apr 25, 2009 8:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Cowboys coveted Unger at 51
According to the Dallas Morning News Cowboys Blog, the Seahawks swooped in and took the only player the Cowboys were willing to spend a 2nd round pick on…
http://cowboysblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/04/max-unger-was-the-target.html#comments
The player the Cowboys coveted with the 51st pick was Oregon center Max Unger.
Once Unger was picked two spots earlier by Seattle with a trade up with Chicago, the Cowboys decided to punt on the second round. They did not seriously entertain the thought of moving back into the round either.
According to Jerry Jones, Unger was a player that could come in immediately and compete for playing time. They loved his versatility – he was an all-Pac 10 pick at tackle and center.
by Mariner Optimist on Apr 26, 2009 3:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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