NFL Draft Live Blog IV
by John Morgan on Apr 26, 2009 6:52 AM PDT
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PrintSeattle may not pick again for a couple hours, but that doesn't mean there isn't interest. For one, there's a certain running back I've crowed about still out there. And if you're not cool with Cedric Peerman, everyone can get behind Mike Reilly--but does he fall?
7:07: This is one of the most exciting picks of the draft. The new number one. The Jets are trading up. The NFL Network is speculating that they're targeting a running back.
7:10: Rex Ryan is locking in on his guys. Rex Ryan thinks he can turn Vernan Gholston into an All-Pro. I think Rex Ryan will have a very short career.
7:11: It is a running back. Beyond a small group of elite backs, or value picks, I wouldn't touch this running back class. Shonn Green is a player that could have fallen into the sixth last season.
7:15: Rams select Bradley Fletcher. I think Steve Spagnuolo believes he can assemble an elite pass rush, and that a player like Fletcher, who Mayock refers to as a "height, weight, speed guy", will hold his own against the shorter clock.
7:21: Chiefs select Alex Magee. He's a high potential guy I think Seattle was targeting. So we can cross him off. Defensive tackle is not a pressing need, but Seattle did need some youth behind Mebane and Red Bryant.
7:22: If Hill is gone, and I think it's safe to say Hill is, Seattle will probably look for a cover style replacement. It's worth noting that if Seattle was going true Tampa 2, Hill would be playing a lot of short cover and Hill struggles at that. Seattle has Herring and Hawthorne, who could rotate depending on down, but I would love to see the team target Jonathan Casillas should he fall.
7:28: With one of the picks Seattle traded to move up to draft Max Unger, the Chicago Bears select pool jumper Jarron Gilbert. Gilbert looks like a valuable sub at both tackle spots. I do worry about defensive tackles from small schools. That's a pure matchup position, and Gilbert truly hasn't faced anything like he will face in the NFL. He might not be able to hack, or he just might not want to hack it. It's about to get hard and painful.
7:35: Not sure one can be a prolific athlete. Maybe Travis Henry. Michael Johnson either makes sense being drafted by the Bengals, or is about to fail in really public and shameful fashion. Not the kind of clubhouse a young guy develops in.
7:48: Glen Coffee is gone. Lame joke makers weep.
7:56: A lot of people are discounting the players the Jets traded away. But let's look at the less spoken of part and figure these three player's value.
DE Kenyon Coleman: Coleman is a journeyman 3-4 end that's a about league average. I would guess he's about the mean output of a third round pick. He's under contract through 2011.
QB Brett Ratliff: One year starter at Utah. Prototypical build. Had a great preseason in 2008.
S Abram Elam: Organizational depth safety, in his prime, that will mostly contribute on special teams.
Not a ton of value, really. Coleman is a good player to add to a team in need of D-line depth, but this trade really turns on Ratliff. As far as franchise crippling trades go, this one is underwhelming. If Mark Sanchez is any good at all, you have to say it was a good trade for the Jets.
8:05: I'm dying to know what's wrong with Duke Robinson.
8:06: Wow, there's a telling comment from Gruden. He doesn't understand how they could be bashing the Steelers' offensive line. Gruden keeps insisting that they are the World Champions. As if that title makes their every unit elite. When we say winning cures all ills, we don't mean this.
8:14: Man they are ripping Gruden. Must be strange to go from top of your profession to being ripped like a rookie. Gruden seems to be taking it in stride and acting classy, but you can tell he hates it.
8:16: The Lions are stocking talent on offense. I guess they are trying to protect Stafford and hope everyone develops together. One problem, they haven't added anyone to their offensive line.
8:22: I agree with Rich Eisen. New England takes Tate. Tate is the kind of pick that falls to the third. A lot of talent, but serious concerns. Just because New England did it doesn't mean it's brilliant.
8:28: Hamlin is still out there. It would be a miracle if he fell to Seattle, but you never know. Bruton is still floating around and would make an interesting developmental pick. I think it's very likely he's selected in the next 50 picks.
8:31: Not surprised to see Turner in the third. For all the talk about Stafford having great talent around him, I think Sanchez had even better.
8:34: You know, I like Marshall Faulk. Occasional dumb comments aside, he offers some interesting insight.
8:38: Good on Mayock. First he admits he didn't see film on Michael Mitchell and now he's admitting that if he was going to be gone by the Bears' pick, that it's justifiable that Oakland selected him. Classy, and more than that, confident move by Mayock.
8:43: Bill Belichick is playing chess with a bunch of checkers players. And with that, New England turns a third round pick in a weak draft into a second round pick in the 2010 draft.
9:58: Seattle has mostly taken itself out of this draft. I've been on board with most picks, but Butler looks like the token blocker/speed back Greg Knapp seems to get on his offenses. Maybe this one will work out.
12:13: One thing this draft confirms is that mock drafts and player rankings are utterly ridiculous after the first three rounds.
12:14: Feneki Tupou to the Eagles. He could be one of the Eagles giant interior linemen, but I don't see him at tackle, even right tackle.
12:18: With Washington burning bridges with Jason Campbell and Seattle looking to be in good cap shape next year, don't be at all surprised if the guy that was passing to Courtney Taylor and Ben Obomanu is a Seahawk next year.
3:39: The live blog kind of petered out as I started working on other projects. Draft coverage won't end today. Tomorrow we start scouting the picks. Starting with either Unger or Curry.
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Makes sense
Johnson is the kind of guy that’s all upside right now. The perfect third round pick. I think he will be drafted very soon.
Yup, just drafted by Bengals
They might’ve gotten a steal here. It’s looking good for the Bengals.
by aerozeppelin on Apr 26, 2009 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions
And Johnson just got picked as that was stated
I would hardly call San Jose State a “small” school. It’s not Humboldt State. Just last year they played Nebraska and Stanford. They play Boise every year. I acknowledge it isn’t the SEC or Pac-10, but they’ve played some teams.
Perhaps he got into the backfield several times and scared the RB or QB
into the arms of a teammate… Anything’s poss i buuuuuuuuullllll.
That's not the point
It’s one game of 2 statistics (tackles and sacks/pressures). Without watching the actual game it’s hard to tell what happened. Hell, maybe he got hurt after the 1st quarter and didn’t play.
I could point out that he had 9 tackles with 2 sacks against an undefeated Boise team and state he should have been a 1st round pick. I’d be wrong.
Fair enough
I’m not arguing that one game is sufficient evidence to determine his value, but you said he played Stanford and Nebraska and that means he’s faced top talent, and my only point was that it’s not enough to face top talent, but to play well against top talent. And though I don’t know if Gilbert did play well, I don’t see evidence that he did.
Actually
my response was to you stating that he played at a “small school.” I don’t put San Jose State, a WAC school, in the same category as FCS or lower division schools. He’s played against guys that will be on pro rosters. If he had played at Humboldt or Central Washington then I could see your point.
Second, he clearly played well against Boise State last year, which while not a BCS school, was probably the best team on his schedule.
Of course
I didn’t say anything like this
I don’t put San Jose State, a WAC school, in the same category as FCS or lower division schools.
We can debate the semantics of a small school, but I think it’s futile. San Jose State is small school compared to most BCS schools. It’s not as small as some. Gilbert faces a larger adjustment than a player that played at a larger BCS school.
Can't believe Johnson fell that far..
This guy was top 5 just a few months ago, and had an All-ACC performance this year. Way to go Cincy,
There might be some nice pieces around at round 5 pick 1.
There goes Coffee, damn.
SAFETY!!!!!!
David Bruton, Notre Dame, size speed. smarts, perfect Ruskell guy. Would not be a reach at 5th round.
For a second there, I thought he was gone...
He wouldn’t be a reach since many expect him to go in the 4th… Especially after that impressive combine. Shoot, we might have to trade up to get him. Let’s hope either him or Hamlin is still available by the time we pick.
Man...
Mad run at WRs.
Some of these really feel like they’re reaching, to be honest. Tate should’ve been available later. Wallaca makes sense in Pittsburgh, tho’, and I think the Lions good got value in Williams, but honestly, I think this whole WR class is a bit overrated.
WR run apparently,
4 in a row, and Barden to the Giants, so if Nicks doesn’t pan out, maybe he can be their Plaxico?
Shoot, I forgot to ask this question, and this is probably the wrong thread
but if Raji is going to be a bust, and he dominated Unger, does that cause some concern for us?
Raji's kind of a positional bust
He’s got great burst and athleticism, and in plays where he’s asked to operate as a one-gap DT (not sure if that’s the case we’re talking about, tho’) he’s top-level and can dominate the best line prospects in this draft.
It’s just that GB needs a heavy, strong-armed, big nose tackle, and Raji isn’t that.
by Thomas Beekers on Apr 26, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't trust Scouts Inc. much,
but how did Ladarius Webb from Nichols State with a grade of 59 just get drafted when DJ Moore from Vandy with a grade of 87 still on the board?
Percy Harvin has a great smile
First thing Brad Childress says about him. So… talent? Drug use?
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2009 8:39 AM PDT reply actions
Why is Seattle on the clock?
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2009 8:42 AM PDT reply actions
Deon Butler, welcome to Seattle.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2009 8:45 AM PDT reply actions
Just a 100 picks later!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not going to pretend I know much about the guy
But he did…
1) Catch the ball
and
2) Run really really fast at the combine
So at least he looks like less of a project than the Taylor/Obamanu/Kent trifecta.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2009 8:46 AM PDT reply actions
Classic Ruskell though, right?
Do we ever really nail the later picks he wants?
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions
on the draft tracker
our 5th is the only pick that vanished…
"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace R.I.P.
from the seahawks official twitter feed
The Hawks traded their 5th round pick (#131) this year, 7th round pick this year (#217) and a 3rd round pick in 2010 for the pick
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- David Foster Wallace R.I.P.
Ouch, a little pricey for a late 3rd round
They must really believe in Butler
by aerozeppelin on Apr 26, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Curious if the
run on WRs had an impact on their decision.
This is why I don't like 'targeting one guy'
Because if they were indifferent between Iglesias, Mike Thomas, Butler, and Hamlin, they would’ve waited a bit longer or traded a bit less.
I wouldn't necessarily say pricey.
Only from the standpoint that a 5th/7th rounder generally don’t make teams, and Ruskell’s been pretty blunt that he feels we don’t have as many holes. I don’t know what the point total comes out to in the draft slotting scheme, but it probably isn’t too much of an overpay.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Me neither
I would assume if we really want that pick next year, we’ll trade down from one of our 1st rounders to get it (unless we use both to trade for a franchise QB).
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2009 8:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I figure we can get it back sometime during the season.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
a new
punt/kick returner?
"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace R.I.P.
I sure hope not.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I love this pick!
Deon butler is our new Engram. 4.3 speed to stretch the field. TJ just got better!
It is what it is...
Engram didn't have 4.3 speed....
I assume you mean the PSU connection? Iglesias would’ve been the new TJ. Butler is the new Burleson? Kiper loves Butler, so I feel a little better.
Butler is legit
We are absolutely awesome… this is enough for me. Three guys for the PS, I’m good.
It is what it is...
don't forget
our 6th rnd pick!
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- David Foster Wallace R.I.P.
I think we're now leading the league in De(i)ons
Interesting pick.
Deon Butler was a DB before converting to WR
With his height/speed, any chance they plan to try him at CB?
So we're pretty much done for the day?
we’re not getting another pick until the 6th round and a few in the 7th.
Probably.
But I took a nap after we traded our 2nd rounder…. I wasn’t going to watch the draft this early, and we get a pick again.
traded yesterday
to get back into the 2nd
"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace R.I.P.
scouts inc on Butler
not super-encouraging…
Butler has excellent top-end speed, adequate size and adequate-to-good ball skills. We also like the way he competes for the ball and is willing to throw his body around as a blocker. But he isn’t big enough or strong enough to be an effective NFL blocker at this point. In addition, his speed is a bit overrated. He doesn?t look as fast on film as he is on the track.
"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."
- David Foster Wallace R.I.P.
If his future is out of the slot...
I’m sure he’s plenty fast.
I'm surprised we picked another WR
given our depth on the roster, while we have needs at DB and RB. I keep saying the same thing, and I know some of you are comfortable with our RB situation, but I still don’t get it. I thought we’d target Reilly in the 6th, but maybe with limited interest from other teams they feel he’ll be there for a compensatory 7th rounder, because I still think we need a RB and not sure what will be available in the 6th. Maybe Ringer???
The Trade
Seahawks acquire a third-round pick (No. 91: Deon Butler) from the Eagles in exchange for a fifth-round pick (No. 137), a seventh-round pick (No. 213) and a third-rounder in 2010
It is what it is...
There's always the Canadian league?
Why say that? There’s an actual chance that Quan Cosby has to play in the Canadian league.
And there goes Iglesias
I’m going to want to know more about Butler, because if Iglesias was still there I’m curious what strengths Butler had over him.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2009 9:09 AM PDT reply actions
Juaquin Iglesias is a Bear
Now he just needs to blow his knee out, get cut and be signed by the Seahawks to fulfill his destiny.
I forgot about him...
And no I guess not….? It’s like taking a DB with plans of using him primarily as a kick returner?
And you did
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
So at the pick we traded to get Unger, we could have gotten Duke Robinson
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2009 9:27 AM PDT reply actions
Unger better be pretty freaking good
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
If it was just one team, you could say it was a disagreement
But with every team… you have to think we may have missed something in our evaluation.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope he does well. I like Thomas.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Part of the fun/pain of the long lead-up to draft weekend
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes, I've heard the comparison.
Which doesn’t mean automatic bust… but it means don’t take him in the top 10 or top 20 or top 30 even…
I could see it, but
WRs are so hard to predict. Could be Devery Henderson or Andre Johnson for all I know.
Still a LOT of good RBs left...
Makes me wish we had a 5th rounder… Rashad Jennings or Javon Ringer would look good in Seahawks blue.
Still a LOT of good RBs left...
Makes me wish we had a 5th rounder… Rashad Jennings or Javon Ringer would look good in Seahawks blue.
Yeah
I’d say the biggest negative of our draft is the lack of midround picks. We’re missing out on a lot of quality players.
by aerozeppelin on Apr 26, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe James Davis will fall to round 6....that would be fan-freakin-tastic
provided we don’t get my man Jennings.
Agreed
Sure wish Ruskell hadn’t panicked with that Keary Colbert move now.
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Hamlin is still around... please let that continue
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2009 9:56 AM PDT reply actions
The biggest surprise for me is that
Seattle seem happy going into next year with their secondary as it is. I was expecting a safety, and / or maybe a corner. The judgement on last year’s defense from management and coaches must be that the DL were to blame, hence Cole and Redding and no new secondary players.
by JamesMurphy on Apr 26, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Except that Jones/Duckett >>> Russell
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by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't mind Courtney Greene,
Safety from Rutgers. Hope he falls to round 6… but I don’t even know if Ruskell sees RB or Safety as a need…
Fucking puppy keeping me up.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
It would be easier if the cat didn't beat the shit out of the dog
and didn’t have to keep them separated.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
She sleeps during the day.
Thats the problem.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Mine sleep during the day. sleep all day while I'm at work.
Then I get back, they sleep all afternoon, then they sleep with me at night. World’s laziest dogs.
Cavalier King Charles mixed with Bischon Friese.
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DJ Moore too?
I don’t want him since he’s another short CB, but damn, if you have tall CB, why not take him?
I'm hoping for Reilly also
IF he pans out, wouldn’t need to burn a 1st rounder next year on QB, trade back both 1st round picks to get 4 2nd rounders.
OT
Does anyone have a Blu Ray player that isn’t a PS3? And had that player come up with the “You need to update the player to play this movies screen?” And you goto the companies website to find that there is no new updates?
Well there is a workaround! I put the disc back in and hit the menu button like 50 times and it bypassed the security check and loaded the disc! FUCK YOU DRM!
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Nope, my BR player is a PS3.
And Fuck Sony. I bought this damn console to play games but all it is now is an expensive Blu-Ray playback device.
But yes, fuck DRM.
I was just amazed hitting menu button like a madman
Made the disc load. I was so happy.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
You know, I hate to sound negative, BUT
I’m a bit worried about 2009. What have we done to improve over 2008? Housh, Redding, Cole. Re-signing Willis doesn’t count. No changes yet at DB, RB, QB. If Hass goes down, we have Seneca, period. If JJ goes down we have Ducket, who got 4 carries per game last year with 2.1 ypc. Forsett who has no stats. Schmitt who backed up Weaver and again has no stats. And the DB’s are unchanged. I really hope I’m wrong, but I think there is a pretty good chance we’re going to have a very tough year.
I wasn't really expecting us to be competing in 2009
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not really expecting much next season.
I think our ceiling is something like 8-8 or 9-7. That’s provided Hasselbeck’s back doesn’t explode again.
I was, but I'm coming around to your position
for a team that says it’s going to run the ball more, we have little in the way of RB talent. And that’s being generous. I’m starting to think THAT was a smokescreen and we’re planning to put the season on the passing arm of Hass with plentiful WR talent.
I should say
The Hawks are going to be competitive. I just don’t know how they’re going to fare until I see what this “West Coast Defense” is all about.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Curry and Unger
add in some health in whats still a weak division and the Seahawks should compete. And the draft isn’t over yet.
Perhaps they removed the franchise tag to free up some cap space
and have no intention of re-signing him. Ken Lucas and an inexpensive RB perhaps?
I think we under utilized Duckett.
Also I think our defensive scheme was so bad that it has to improve. I also really like Justin Forsett. I am feeling actually quite confident in the Hawks.
by Built2Spill on Apr 26, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
What do you like about Forsett?
Aside from some kick returns, he has no NFL experience. I hope he is a nice surprise, but it would be a surprise if he made an impact.
And while Duckett wasn’t asked to carry the load, what in his background makes you think he can?
I am a Cal fan so I have watched regularly.
He has great burst and fight. He will get to the hole quickly but also has great patience and uses his blockers very well. While not being the largest back, he rarely goes down on the first hit.
by Built2Spill on Apr 26, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I know it was just preseason
But Forsett just never seemed to go down. He had good vision, was patient and had good burst when he needed it.
He deserves a chance to get some carries.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I admit this is a bit unfair because it didn't happen,
but what if Hass, Shaun or Walt had gone down in 2005..? We probably weren’t going on the SB run. We don’t appear to be stacked at the skill positions (especially depth), but that doesn’t mean we won’t be competitive.
by JamesMurphy on Apr 26, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
For sure
I meant if any one of them had gone down, not necessarily all three. Even in the case of losing one, you have to trust your unproven depth (e.g. Cassel being good enough to help a very good, but Bradyless, team to 11-5) can step up enough.
by JamesMurphy on Apr 26, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't judge the offseason too early.
We still have a handful of 7th rounders, which are like early UFAs, and the last few years have consistently yielded UFAs who come in and contribute. And there’s the June cuts and more movement still to come.
by lemonverbena on Apr 26, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Rob Lowe?
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Carolina takes a fullback in the fourth?
Seems like a bit of a reach.
Gotta protect the "Golden Arm"
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
I, of course, like the pick.
Not like having depth at running back is good, or anything.
Where’s FFrog when I need him?
God damn it, Deon Butler?
With Iglesias, Mike Thomas, Duke Robinson, and Hamlin all on the board?
And did Ruskell suddenly develop an allergy to third round picks?
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
Thanks.
I intentionally woke up so I could just read up on who took who.
Glad to see San Francisco is taking everyone we want.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
But Christ, everyone is reaching in the third round.
Louis Vasquez, Glenn Coffee, Kraig Urbik all third rounders?
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
They didn't take all the people we want.
I think most of us would of been happy with Crabtree and Coffee, but no one was claiming those were two players Seattle had to get.
t("t)
Just kidding.
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Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
But they would have been nice.
They also had the opportunity to draft Everette Brown in the second and that would have been ridiculous.
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Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Was he considered a speedster or no?
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Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Why is he wearing a temple jersey?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
10/10
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Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Just Cogs in the Machine.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Everette Brown, Patrick Chung,
Connor Barwin, Lofa Tatupu, John Carlson, I’ll take these types of players any day.
Did Duke Robinson run over a young child or something?
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Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
Spiller?
CJ Spiller? He’s in the next draft.
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by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Hoooly crap.
What a weird draft.
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Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Last year was pretty straightforward.
Aside from the WRs falling (which wasn’t hard to see to coming) and Chris Johnson in the first.
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by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
They are assigned next season.
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Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
One of these days someone will get every pick right.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
And win ONE MILLION DOLLARS!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
We've done it every round possible so far...
But we’d have to give up our 6th.. and a 6th next year?
Probably a 6th this year and a 5th next year
If we haven’t given up the 2010 5th yet? I’m struggling to keep up.
by JamesMurphy on Apr 26, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Depends how high up in the 5th we want.
If it’s the end of the 5th… Our 6th rounder isn’t that far off.
Can we trade any of our 7ths?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
ok, thats what I thought
so we would have to give up our 6th then. Well nevermind.
Hamlin will fall to the 6th anyway.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
And Duke and Herman Johnson, for that matter.
But I just knew the Bears were getting Enrique Iglesias.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
What are we going to give up now, next year's 4th?
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
He's gonna spill your blood, man.
0/10 I know.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't want to give Michael Vick a 2nd chance
Cause he wasn’t good before he was a felon.
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On the contrary, let's get him and move him to RB.
We’re gravitating towards the Seattle Falcons anyway m i rite?!?!?!
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Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
TRADE FOR MATT RYAN!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I had a wicked cool dream during the regular season that they tried putting him on their practice squad...
and we immediately snapped him up, having our shiny new QB of the future.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
That would be so awesome.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Based on FA and draft it seems like Mora/Ruskell are OK with DBs
The only thing is that they are convinced last year was the D-lines fault. They moved Babs to safety on the roster also. It can’t be a down grade from Russell.
I would feel better if we signed Ken Lucas.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Depends on the money
If we can get him for around 6 mil 3 years than ok, but he is 30 and not a shutdown guy anymore
But he is physical
Thats why a move to safety might make sense.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Okay, I knew Duke's stock would suffer because of the Championship game performance...
But this is absurd.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
Oh?
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Andre Smith went 7th
Hakeem Nicks was in the 1st round after gaining 14 pounds in a month from a ‘tweaked hamstring’…. Somehow I think he should be drafted soon…
Maybe he had a heart defect or something on his physical? That’s the only think that would make sense to me.
Figures Andre Smith went to the Bengals.
Why do they ignore character concerns?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Sarcasim?
I know he has issues. But personally I think I would want anger issues from my MLB.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be surprised if he fell to the 7th.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Sweeeeet.
Or Cullen Harper, either way.
Hell, even Curtis Painter.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Just a dude that wings the pig.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
In that case, I hope they draft me.
I started throwing a football for the first time in years last week and it went nearly 20 yards in a wobble!
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
And it's going to be ineffective again.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I really like Pat White.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Wildpat
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Duke Robinson
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I read that perfectly.
Yay Dyslexia brothers!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Its weird.
You really don’t notice it.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Michael Hamlin still available too?
Something wrong with him?
We got Babin for Boulware.
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Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Doesn't combine well.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
But he has large arms.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions
We do have a Large arm void.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Man, I miss Muscley Arms
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions
He's probably happy with our WRs as well,
but he felt that Butler was too good of a value to pass up.
Do we have to trade anything?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Hard to say
Obviously the draft is unpredictable. Too many people with too many opinions.
by John Morgan on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
anyone else think Glen Coffee went too early?
I mean, SF could have just drafted Jennings in the 5th.
I do.
They don’t need a RB that early. Getting another position seems like it would be more important.
He was just caffeinated.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe with good reason, though that is ridiculous value.
Next season, our starting line will likely be:
Walter Jones, Mike Wahle, Chris Spencer, Ray Willis, Sean Locklear. Behind them, we have for depth or potential starters in:
Max Unger, Mansfield Wrotto, and Rob Sims. Maybe we need tackle depth moreso than guard.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
But you could make the case that Walt, Wahle, and Spencer will be gone soon, making the line consist of:
Locklear, Wrotto, Unger, Sims, and Willis, and then we have no depth at all.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
So, Duke Robinson...
Two time All-America
Four Year Starter
Prototypical size
The best player on the best offensive line in college football
Has visited Australia
Can someone explain this to me? He was projected to be selected in the first round in 2007. Then he won another All-America. Is he like space mutant and it was only revealed during the Combine? Does this disqualify him somehow? Because I’ll take that space mutant in the fifth.
Has visited Australia?
How thorough are the physicals during the combine? Maybe he had a spine problem or something weird?
Damn, sucks for him
I cannot imagine the amount of money he lost from dropping this far.
by aerozeppelin on Apr 26, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey if we draft him now.
He’ll be playing with a serious chip on his shoulder.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
LOLSKINS
They already paid for Derrick Dockery so I can’t imagine the use for Duke
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
I liked Iglesias so much better.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions
Masshole was drafted in the second, no?
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
You and your love for Latin pop stars.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Shakira Shakira!
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 26, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I hate when people call the wrong number and yell into the phone.
Like I’m wrong for having my phone number.
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This one guy has been calling me for a year.
Asking for some girl.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I always wanted to respond.
Her mouth is full.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Eli available for trade now?
Or are they just going to cut him once Bomar is ready?
by purplepansy on Apr 26, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
As an aside
love the two Rice picks (Dillard and Casey). I think they both could stick and be productive.
Its nice isn't it.
To bad we’re going to take a punter with our 6th round pick.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
They might be a handful next year.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh for those of you that were wondering.
My beer came out alright (drinkable scale – 6/10) – A little more bitter then I was hoping. I think it needs to sit a bit longer.
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I was kind of wondering though I don't remember you talking about it before now.
by John Morgan on Apr 26, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Yesterdays thread.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, before that
I don’t remember you talking about it.
by John Morgan on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I probably hadn't mentioned it.
Its my busy season at work.
Brewed it about 4 weeks ago.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
If you weren't incredibly skinny
I would call you fat.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
My nickname in college was actually fatass
but when all your friends are cross country runners, the standards are different.
I really want to make a Lambic
But I don’t want to wait a year for it to ferment to find out I fucked up.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
They need to allow you section off the TV in Picture and picture mode.
So I can just see the draft bar while watching the Mariners.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Linebacker
Wow, looks like Duke is going to be a free agent.
by aerozeppelin on Apr 26, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
*yawn* good morning, boys.
Long night. What happened? Kidding, I read the other threads.
How long do we figure until the Hawks are up again?
Or Duke at this point!
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I found a video of interviews for Aaron Curry
The more I hear/see this guy, the more I like him. He has the look of a kid in a candy store during the interviews, just happy to be where he is. I look forward to seeing him play for us this year
Here’s a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIMUks-OF40
Yeah.
I forsee a lot of shots of him and Lofa standing on the sideline joking like two kids standing in front of 7/11.
Hopefully not like the kids that plan on robbing it.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions
They said this about Duke on the NFP today:
“Duke Robinson Guard Oklahoma
In one of the weakest offensive guard classes to come along in years, Robinson still stands on the board and will end up being a good value in round three. He is a big, physical road-grader who can create movement in the run game and hold his own in pass protection. For a team that values big, physical offensive linemen (Eagles, Cowboys), Robinson should be an attractive fit. "
I'm calling another trade up.
But not for anyone we’re thinking about, of course.
Good morning everyone
So uh….is it wrong that I’m completely fine with removing the franchise tag from Hill? Because the Seahawk Addicts commenters are inching closer to killing themselves.
He’s going to demand a long-term contract and eventually at the tail end of the contract he’ll probably already see a significant drop in production. It’s not worth just dumping our salary cap on the linebacker position. By drafting Curry he’ll be signed to a big contract and for him the only way to go is up.
It’s not the end of the world that Hill might be gone. He took money over team and I can’t respect that.
Fun Fact: If Patrick Chung and Marcus Trufant were to have a helmet-to-helmet collision, the world would explode.
Money over team
and yet we don’t demand that kind of loyalty out of our franchises. I think that argument is bogus. Losing Hill hurts—if it happens. He’s good, young and improving. I think Seattle is still the leader to sign him.
by John Morgan on Apr 26, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree
But now I think he will end up signing for less than the 6/36 that was there. No one else is going to come close to that offer.
Hill didn't sign the tender for 2 months and the team called his "bluff".
So, he might turn prima donna and act like they jerked him around, but that wouldn’t be justified. Dude passed out in an intersection with a bag of weed in the car. He was lucky to get the tag and should’ve signed for the $8m. By not signing he missed the free agent frenzy, or what there was of one this year, and most of that money is now gone/needed for signing draft picks.
Either Hill is as dumb as a guy passing out with weed in the car, or he’s getting bad counsel, or both.
by lemonverbena on Apr 26, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree with the sentiment
but I think someone else will be willing to pay him more and he’ll be gone. We’ll be looking at DD and Herring platooning.
It's been a while since we had a 'bad' LB
so I forgot what a team with bad LBs would look like…. With Curry and Tatupu, I don’t care who LB #3 is. Especially if we get Ken Lucas as a safety.
Ken Lucas - This is purely speculation in my head.
Unless something has been mentioned somewhere.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Huh?
“He took money over team and I can’t respect that.”
Yeah, NFL teams never choose money over loyalty.
Dwight Schrute said it best
Would I ever leave this company? Look, I’m all about loyalty. In fact, I feel like part of what I’m being paid for here is my loyalty. But if there were somewhere else that valued loyalty more highly, I’m going wherever they value loyalty the most.
I have a question. Can you trade a player who has the franchise tag?
Fun Fact: If Patrick Chung and Marcus Trufant were to have a helmet-to-helmet collision, the world would explode.
That player has to sign a tender sheet first.
Leroy didn’t.
I find this comment to be a little funny.
Duke? Carolina?
I’ll get my coat.
Fun Fact: If Patrick Chung and Marcus Trufant were to have a helmet-to-helmet collision, the world would explode.
by SSreporters on Apr 26, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Panthers line is looking tough.
and they added another RB. Not that RB depth would be a good idea, or anything.
LOLZ and they traded next year's fifth to do it!
HAHAHAAHHAHAAHHAHAH. Sweet.
That's what NFL network just said.
I have a tough time believing it, too.
If anyone needs special teams help it's the Saints.
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Saw that
I really like Clemons at the spot.
by John Morgan on Apr 26, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Why do the Cowboys need 2 Hamlins?
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Okay........Don Carey next.
Fun Fact: If Patrick Chung and Marcus Trufant were to have a helmet-to-helmet collision, the world would explode.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I will cry for awhile now. I was hoping for Hamlin and that hope got shot down
He looks like a chipmunk.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone wanna bet Alex Smith gets cut?
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by SSreporters on Apr 26, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Nate davis would read that as
Won him throw from Crabtree to Davis
(i know i am using another person’s joke)
by Built2Spill on Apr 26, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Really nice pick for the 49ers.
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on Apr 26, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Old Ken-Doll Hands
The Minister of Fumbles.
by John Morgan on Apr 26, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Refresh my memory?
Who’s sausage fingers? I nicknamed Vidro as Hot Dog Fingers last year. Something tells me that’s not who you want on our team.
as long as it's a safety I'm fine
the longer we go without picking one, the more worried I am we are going with the status quo
by SuperShadow on Apr 26, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
There's not a safety left that's better than Jamar Adams.
Nor one that will have a mandate to start over Russell.
by John Morgan on Apr 26, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I know this is unbearable.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I have to figure if we wanted Hamelin, we'd have moved up the few spots to get him
Now, I hope we don’t allow a certain bruiser from a certain small school to get away…
It was pretty tough at that point
we would have had to dip even more into the future, something I know Ruskell doesn’t like to do.
by John Morgan on Apr 26, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I always forget the Raiders were in the SB in 2002.
It feels like they haven’t had any kind of success in ages.
The Titans love their running backs.
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Proof between them and Arizona
that an early expensive pick of a QB does not mean you can’t have success.
How many times have they traded up this draft?
A lot
by purplepansy on Apr 26, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Had anyone heard of Matt Cassell when he was drafted?
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that's true
By the way, love the pony
Zuh?
Seattle the city is singular. Seattle as in “Seattle Seahawks” is generally plural.
by John Morgan on Apr 26, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions
It's Brandstater
Yeah, I’ve heard of him. I’ve seen him quite a bit on TV. An interception machine. Big kid I think with decent tools. Just very average.
I'm worried about that. Or CLE.
But this guy for us would be nice:
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2009/0326/nfl_g_jennings1_sw_576.jpg
Brandstater is a 6th round project
with enough measurables to work with.
They stopped early in the 4th I believe.
Bill Cosby is more interesting than taking 10 seconds to show a player’s name and a few stats apparently.
Not just you
It sucks not having NFL Network
you can stream it online
I stopped watching ESPN once I discovered the NFLN stream
Questions
when it’s our pick, and a certain someone is available, will saying his name on this board in CAPS jinx him?
Someone had to say it
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture
I'm surprised no one hasn't yet.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.sbnation.com/users/Fuckmikereilly
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Give me someone who I will have no idea who they are
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture
Pick is in!
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Teel?!
Fun Fact: If Patrick Chung and Marcus Trufant were to have a helmet-to-helmet collision, the world would explode.
He had a GREAT
game to end his career against Louisville
Look at it this way
We just drafted the replacement for Brian Russell
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture
Let me find some video highlights.
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Mike
Teel is a game manager type QB who basically handed the ball off to Ray Rice until this year.
ESPN: Maike Teall????
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture
Kind of believe
they might have been able to get him as undrafted FA
Never, ever put something from bleacher report up there.
Easily any one of us could post there. Average writing level equal to a grade nine kid’s.
Not saying it's definitive
Just interesting that some person, somewhere, thinks he absolutely sucks. And it was one of the first things that came up on google
Quick Teel highlights
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Er
Fun Fact: If Patrick Chung and Marcus Trufant were to have a helmet-to-helmet collision, the world would explode.
I hate the Browns so much right now
I bet they KNEW we were going to take Carey,
It's great to be a Florida Gator!
a video of Teel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXuKz7G95Vo
Kinda reminds me of Sanchez a little.
Besides the fact that Sanchez is good and Mike Teel is Mike Teel
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture
Yeah thanks for that.
Actually, to be more specific, I think Teel should have gone #4.
Yeesh.
Pros: Very good arm; pretty accurate thrower; nice vision of the field; very good team leader.
Cons: Could cut down on the interceptions and needs to move around better in the pocket.
Overall: Probably going to be a third string quarterback drafted in the 5-7 round; if ever given the oppurtunity to play, teel can hit the open receiver in for the short pass over the middle or the deep pass along the sidline
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I'm not too sure about this.
He’s not bad but he’s not great either.
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I'm trying to figure out why people are saying he won't pan.
He can fucking wing the pig. Good size, Good arm, Good Vision.
Might be a nice little project.
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They got us one good guy... Matt.
Who else? Greene? Seneca? And those were mid-rounders.
Hasselbeck attributes Dilfer to his development as much as Zorn or Holmy.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Well Dilfer is a free agent
Maybe that’s why we’re clearing cap space
If you had to talk to these idiots wouldn't you be?
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Godamn I wish I was Mark Sanchez.
At least for a couple of years.
Multi-millionaire, ultra-famous, living in New York, built like a Greek God. That’s a lot of models in your bed.
He is not built like a Greek god.
Plus he has like 10 moles on the left side of his face. That’s got to bring the Mark Sanchez experience down a bit, no?
New York is a shit hole.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I hate crowds, Traffic, Flat Areas, Mean people, trash, excessive amounts of concrete.
So I might be biased.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Manhattan? Hardly. Especially not when you're a multi-millionaire athlete. NYC is our country's only true world city.
Plus they’re moving into a new stadium this year. It’s going to be incredible for the kid.
by lemonverbena on Apr 26, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't get this.
Manhattan was filthy when I was there.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Seattle and San Francisco are drafting much better than Arizona and St. Louis
But San Francisco just got a guy named Bear Pascoe and therefore they are the NFC West winners of the draft.
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Peerman is gone. Crap.
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Yvenson Bernard?
I mean we still have Forsett.
Fun Fact: If Patrick Chung and Marcus Trufant were to have a helmet-to-helmet collision, the world would explode.
I might have to accept that.
Just one more fun thing from this draft! I never get a RB. I remember when we drafted SA, and we had a stud at RB then…
Running Watters!
He was getting pretty slow tho
It's definitely not a position of need for this year.
And RB is one of those positions where you can just draft and plop a guy in. I’d think that we look for one next year.
Robert Henson, LB from TCU. He's 6'0 and 240 lbs.
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The Lions take Aaron Brown from TCU.
Are they ever going to take an offensive lineman?
Fun Fact: If Patrick Chung and Marcus Trufant were to have a helmet-to-helmet collision, the world would explode.
I like Pettigrew
but I think they dropped the ball with Oher. I’d rather have Oher and Bear than Pettigrew and… well… nothing.
Stafford should added a blindside protection clause in his contract
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by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Eagles just landed Brandon Gibson from Wazzu.
Fun Fact: If Patrick Chung and Marcus Trufant were to have a helmet-to-helmet collision, the world would explode.
so much for going back to help your draft stock
NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!
by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 26, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
What time do you guys figure we'll hit the Hawks' selections in the 7th?
I ain’t got all day.
Davis and Gibson...
Darn it… our compensatory picks can’t come soon enough (so Ruskell can pick a guy not on my radar).
OH NOES
New England just took our long-snapper.
Wow
Networks killed us for taking a LS last year. Not a word about the Pats taking one.
Oh yeah, the NFLN guys definitely laughed at it.
Didn’t even mention us doing it last year.
They just had a little chat about the Hawks on NFL Network.
Talked up Butler quite a bit, thought he’d be a kick/punt returner though he’s never done it before.
Someone threw in “and they got a first rounder too” at the very end, as if it was chump change.
To be fair it was a pretty good review of our draft.
They even liked Teel.
USC by far
Oregon State was like 4th the last time I saw ESPN’s list.
The cowboys have taken several guys I was hoping would be Hawks
so I hope they don’t pick right before we do. But I’m with you. Can’t believe he’s still around.
You and me both.
Seriously, I wish dreams came true. Then we’d have Duke in the 5th, Bear Pascoe in the 6th, Liberty in the 7th, and Reilly, Boeckmann, and whomever I don’t care for the compensatory picks.
Well, once this 7th round is over, I'm going to drive to my apartment and watch
Game 5 of the 1995 ALDS while doing Yoga from a dvd instruction video. Can’t wait.
I don't understand, Liberty ran a 4.5-4.6 40 time,
weighs 235… caught 500 yards his junior year…. seems like a steal to me, no?
Yeah, the RB times this year were really slow.
I don’t think any RB broke 4.5 at the combine this year or anyone good.
Oh shit, we should have drafted him just for the name.
Bear Pascoe too.
Your punt-cover team could have a bear and a captain on it.
Well, we still have 3 picks left!
Only 23 to go til we get to be surprised again
Dammit, I gotta go to work.
Three picks in like five minutes. SO MUCH PRESSURE!
I'll bet we'd give him a shot with one of our 7ths if he was still there.
After all, Unger can play pretty much any OL position except LT.
Nevermind, arrested in 2003 for stealing a car stereo
Disorderly conduct in 2008. No chance with us anyways.
Three picks to wrap up the draft
I think Seattle takes high upside guys. This draft has definitely felt like it was more about that future than 2009.
Yeah, which is funny because many said that we couldn't draft Sanchez because it would seem like
we’re playing for 2010, not 2009. Yet our draft is more geared toward 2010 anyways. When it comes down to it, we didn’t draft Sanchez because we wanted BPA, and we didn’t feel Sanchez was our guy I guess, or we felt Hasselbeck had more than 2 years left.
Curry and Unger are all about 2009
The rest is for the future, including another #1 next year. Overall I think this shows the FO thinks that last year was about bad a bad D system and a ridiculous level of injuries on offense.
There's a certain RB from Liberty
On top of Kiper’s best available list
Dammit good point.
Someone compile a huge list of sucky players, and then when it’s our pick, we can all copy and paste, thus ensuring us to pick a guy we want.
Why didn't we trade Mare
I guess we will trade him soon and get picks next year, but we could have used more this year.
Zona drafts kicker from Pitt
with a SWEET last name.Stephens-Howling, I’d love to have that on the back of a jersey.
Another RB went in front of Jennings
If nothing else, he is going to be pissed off wherever he ends up at.
Why are so many more CBs drafted than everything else?
CB — 38 drafted
DE — 20 drafted
etc.
Makes sense
I just didn’t realize they basically doubled every other position in terms of numbers drafted. Learn something every day.
Honestly Curry, Lofa and DD is a great LB corps
Plus it is about 10 mil a year cheaper than JP, Lofa and Hill
Ruskell guy for sure:
Greene was a first-team All-Big East pick in 2008 after twice earning second-team All-Big East notice and also Freshman All-American honors.
Oh whoops sorry, indeed Sanford
Would be weird for Ruskell to draft a guy like that
by Thomas Beekers on Apr 26, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Another guy named Courtney?
Well at least he’s a safety :)
And we're back on the clock.
Two more picks and we’re finished.
Greatest. I haven't been inl ove with any pick so far,
and yet this totally redeems everything for me.
Wow, he's got some beastly stats
51 tackles for loss career, 13 sacks in ’08
Yeah I got my Cal player but...
I am disappointed. I wanted Mike Reilly, Rashad Jennings, or a LS/K/P uber combination player.
I like Greene and Reed
not sure why we would go after a TE even if he was the best talent. OT would have filled us in better
Is Morrah a pass catcher, or a blocker?
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
I think a pass catcher.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2009/profiles/cameron-morrah?id=81851
Makes sense, as we already picked up our blocking specialist in Smith.
Apparently a red zone threat.
Hm, interesting.
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Apr 26, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I missed it
Was watching NFL network, and now Jennings was picked
We want Bradford!
We want Bradford! We want Bradford! We want Bradford! We want Bradford! We want Bradford! We want Bradford! We want Bradford!
Weez the juice!!
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 26, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Hopefully we trade both 1st rounds for a pile of 2nd and 3rd
Lets hope teel is better than anyone knows
This is the same team
that drafted RJ Soward with their 1st round pick about 8 or 9 years ago. Makes the Mitchell pick by the Raiders look sound.
That being said it looks like, when in doubt, they just took value, value, value which, in my opinion, is the right way to go.
The Final Countdown.
So fucking perfect. Bahahahaha
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
Ok everyone, I'm going to have dinner with my wife and take it a little easy for the rest of the day.
If the non-drafted free agents are announced, can someone write up a fanpost and I’ll front page it and link it (under the wrap up).
Thanks for the civil and, well, awesome threads.
There’s a full wrap up posted and information about Seattle’s seventh round picks.
Enjoy your day, and thanks, John!
Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.
by BrettJMiller on Apr 26, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Take it easy John, you've earned a bit of a break.
Thanks for all the hard work you and Doug put in!
Thanks very much John!
Weez the juice!!
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 26, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
This is my least favorite time of the year
It’s the longest possible period of time until the draft is back.
It makes me feel better when training camp rolls around.
:)
Weez the juice!!
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 26, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions
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