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Seahawks Draft Grade: Deon Butler

Deon Butler

Upside:

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Today I write in broad strokes. In the coming weeks we will cover each prospect in much greater detail. Because my scouting of Butler is limited to the Rose Bowl, and not in the intense, scrutinous way one must to make much sense out of one game, this is grade is constructed of scouting reports, agility drills and some first-hand scouting.

Butler has very good speed and is a good route runner. That's an A+ combination for a pro. He played on a Penn State program that couldn't assemble a passing offense if it was made of Duplos. That's in part why his statistics are only good. Those statistics have a mitigating and compounding* factor. Penn State only threw for 3,160 yards Butler's senior year, meaning Butler received for more than a quarter of his team's total passing yards. Compare that to Michael Crabtree's 21.7%.

Butler's a mixed bag with good skills and talent, but disputable production. He could develop into a top twenty wide receiver, maybe better.

Downside:

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He could develop into a top twenty receiver and could not develop at all. It's tough interpreting a scouting report and trying to determine if Butler is "destined to play the slot" because he (was) 168 pounds, or because he has trouble separating. I worry it's the latter. Good to great wide receivers are scarce, and though a third round pick is a lot of draft capital, most third round wide receivers do not develop. When that third round pick is acquired by trading a third round pick, a high fourth round pick and a high sixth round pick, it's suddenly a substantial investment.

*The compounding factor is Butler was mostly shutdown by top competition and recorded nearly half of his production against benighted former titans Michigan, Michigan State and Syracuse. All three finished outside the top fifty in pass defense.

Seattle's offense needs Butler to play more than slot, and since his downside is a mediocre slot receiver, Butler's downside is of no use to Seattle. Too bad it's at least probable.

Fit:

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Seattle sees Butler as a split end and thinks he will give the team much needed speed. The team needs speed, but not until it has a quarterback that can exploit it. Perhaps the short-term goal is only to keep the safety off the slot. Part of slotting Butler at split end instead of slot is Greg Knapp doesn't use many three wide receiver sets. In Oakland in 2007, Knapp ran three+ wide receiver sets just 45%1 of all snaps (22nd) and four+ wide receiver sets just 4% of all snaps (29th). That's also part of why Seattle selected Butler over a slower, more slot-oriented receiver like Juaquin Iglesias. Butler is a hardy blocker, but, you guessed it, his former slightness convinced scouts his blocking skills will not translate to the pros. Butler fits if he hits his upside and doesn't fit at all if he nears his downside.

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speed and separation

John, can you talk a little about the difference between speed and separation? It seems counter-intuitive that a receive as fast as Butler would have trouble separating himself from a cornerback.

Thanks

by Nick Andron on Apr 27, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm no John, but I think receivers tend to get separation out of their cuts...

…and out of fooling the DB rather than through pure speed.

by sev79 on Apr 27, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's part of it for sure.

Cuts, body shield, misdirection, agility, quickness, snatching the ball away from the body—almost anything you can think of a receiver doing is about getting separation. Speed is a very small part.

by John Morgan on Apr 27, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This was the biggest head scratcher of the day to me...

I’m not sure what happened here, but its harder to “see” this working out well than with any other pick. All the maneuvering and expenditure to take Butler really caught me by surprise. Iglesias was the safer pick but probably a worse fit given what we already have on the roster. On the other hand, Louis Murphy (who is bigger and faster) from Florida would have been a more obvious selection given what you’ve highlighted about Butler.

It’s difficult to view Butler as anything other than a project with some nice (though hardly unique) attributes (i.e., speed and route running). Sometimes a FO just falls in love, and I have my suspicions about whether that happened with this pick for whatever reason. I’m less surprised that Butler is a Seahawk than how he came to be one and where he was selected I suppose.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Apr 27, 2009 5:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Couple of thoughts

I’ve seen pretty much every game Butler has played the past four years, and I’m not going to even pretend I have any sort of eye for scouting and I’ll admit to being biased because I absolutely love Deon Butler and couldn’t be happier he’s a Seahawk. He’s just a great kid. I posted a video of him firing up the team before the Ohio State game this year and you gotta love it (here it is again). But, a couple of things with Butler…

-He came to Penn State as a walk-on DB. So, he’s still developing. And he’s shown the ability to develop by becoming Penn State’s all-time receptions leader.
-His QB was Anthony Morelli for 2 years. I don’t even know how to explain how bad Morelli was for the PSU passing game. And the QB his freshman year was Michael Robinson, who is now a back-up RB for the 49ers and wasn’t much of a passer beyond the deep ball.
-Joe Paterno is known for going conservative on offense in big games, especially on the road, so it’s not surprising his numbers go down in the big games.
-Butler was rarely the focal point of the offense. The PSU staff often tried to force the ball to Derrick Williams (who went ahead of Butler to the Lions) in as many ways as possible. But Butler was the better WR.
-The Penn State offensive coaching staff is…uh….has some potential?

All in all, I think it could work out for the Hawks. I agree that it was a little puzzling to see them trade those picks to get Butler, but let’s hope they’re right.

As an aside, Penn State had the #37 passing offense in the country last year, coupled with the #17 rushing offense. So to say Penn State can’t develop a passing offense is a little misleading.

by speedomike on Apr 28, 2009 1:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for your comments

Those are encouraging words that come from someone that has a lot of first-hand experience with the guy.

The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.

by Nick Andron on Apr 28, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right

The Penn State offense was very efficient. It just wasn’t prolific, and that hurt Butler’s receiving totals.

by John Morgan on Apr 28, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to speak for everyone else,

but I am a HUGE fan of college fans coming over to give some context to a player’s new team. We can pick apart numbers, tape, and quotes, but without the context we cannot be right all the time.

by cashless on Apr 28, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So he was a DB

I thought I remembered him playing corner.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 28, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope that was Justin King

PSU had the fantastic 4 going for a year
Deon Butler, Jordan Norwood, Justin King, Derrick Williams (All Freshman in 2005)
We lacked depth at CB so King made the adjustment and played defense.

http://www.49ersboard.blogspot.com

by supraman on Apr 29, 2009 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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