Revisiting Seahawks Draft Room All-Access

by John Morgan on Apr 27, 2009 4:14 PM PDT Comment 23 comments

We laughed it off at the time. We thought it too good to be true. We snickered in nervous disbelief when we saw Jamar Adams atop the free safety depth chart, but in retrospect, Tim Ruskell and Ruston Webster were completely transparent. Was salvation hiding in plain sight.

What did Seattle say?

Webster: "I think the receiver group is a strong group, especially through the first three rounds."

Seattle traded into the third to draft Deon Butler.

Ruskell: "...we've been looking at corners with size.."

Webster: "...in terms of the big corner that stands out, probably not so much ...It's not a great a draft for corners over six foot."

Ruskell: "With our injury situation, as we get closer to training camp, we're gonna say, ‘that's something we should have taken care of.'"

Seattle signs 6' cornerback Ken Lucas a day after the draft.

Webster: "The defensive tackle class overall is probably not overly strong. ...end group is good...[there's] some good, undersized speed-type rushers probably all the way through fourth round. "

Seattle does not draft a tackle, and though it doesn't sign an end before the fourth round, it does draft and undersized edge rusher in the seventh round.

Can Jamar Adams, starting free safety, be far behind?

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Oh boy

by SPENCEMAN on Apr 27, 2009 4:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I'd love it if Jamar Adams could pull it off.

I just love those late-pick and undrafted player success stories.

Also, I just want someone better than Russell. That’s all.

Weez the juice!!

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 27, 2009 4:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

It's sad, but I know practically nothing about Jamar Adams.

So I looked up his NFL Scouting profile. Apparently he ran a 4.38 40 in high school? Weird since he didn’t repeat that in college for whatever reason.
92 tackles 2.5 TFL, 1 sack, 10 passes defense, and 3 ints his senior year seems pretty good to me.
He doesn’t seem much better or worse than Greene though, except for the fact that he does have a year of NFL: experience under his belt.

I don’t think that that depth chart was accurate, since they don’t know who’s the starter yet, but if he has a legitimate shot at competing for the starting job, our defense (along with Lucas and Curry) just got a lot better.

McCoy McCoy 2010

by LantermanC on Apr 27, 2009 4:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Here is an article from last year about Jamar Adams when he was in camp.

http://www.seattlepi.com/football/373419_hawk04.html

Here are a few notable quotes from the article.

I couldn’t believe it," Mora said. "You look at that list (of potential free-agent signees) and it’s, ’What’s he doing there?’ "

Adams is a shade under 6 feet 3, weighs 212 pounds, runs 40 yards in 4.6 seconds, has a football IQ that’s off the charts and led the Wolverines in tackles last season.

“We thought Jamar was going to get drafted,” Ruskell said. “It just happens every once in a while. Leonard Weaver should have gotten drafted.”

Adams was rated a second- or third-round prospect at one point before slipping.

I wonder if Adams didn’t play for the same reason Coutu didn’t. I think Holmgren and Marshall had a more “win now” attitude (for obvious reasons) and wanted to go with veteran players like Russel.

by Mind of no mind on Apr 27, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Coutu didn't play because Mare was awesome all season.

As for the win now attitude, why didn’t Adams get some more snaps in at the end of the season then? It’s like when Adam Jones didn’t get any ABs the year before he was traded even though the M’s were out of the playoff race.

McCoy McCoy 2010

by LantermanC on Apr 27, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

But Holmgren was the one who insisted on signing a veteran kicker,

I don’t know that we’d have even pursued Mare if Holmgren hadn’t. I don’t think Holmgren was worried about giving rookies playing experiance for next year, he wanted to win as much as possible.

by Mind of no mind on Apr 27, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I loved Adams last year

solely because of this youtube montage of him repeatedly destroying the Gator Jesus

All I remember is that he graded out around a 4th-5th rounder. One of those guys I was hoping we’d draft, then thrilled when he was an UDFA. Had a total Ruskell-guy rep as team leader at Michigan. I heard his stock was really effected by their down year, and Adams basically being used as an extra LB’er, even though he had shown flashes of being a good cover FS before (a lot like like William Moore this past year)

by jteckmann on Apr 27, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

If anyone wants to see the depth board from another angle, check out this video

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80ff14c1

It’s a little harder to read overall, but it also shows special teams with Mare on top. Not that anyone would really expect different.

by Mind of no mind on Apr 27, 2009 4:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I wonder where Babineaux fits in the depth chart as well

With the signing of Lucas, I wouldn’t believe that Babineaux goes down to our 5th string CB. He has safety experience. He could slide to that position as well. If not, he or Jennings will probably be cut.

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Apr 27, 2009 4:33 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

He's listed as the 5th free safety in the depth chart on the video.

1. Adams
2. Grant
3. Wallace
4. Russell
5. Babs

by sammy on Apr 27, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is it just me

or are the Seahawks making a concerted effort to get much bigger on D. 6’3 212 Jamar Adam’s sounds nice. 6’0 Ken Lucas. The angry blog Collin Cole, paired with the 280-290 lb end in Redding. Put that together with Curry, and perhaps Hill, and you got some junk in the trunk.

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Apr 27, 2009 5:15 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

ahem... blog, blob... my writing skills... not so good

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Apr 27, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm sure an angry blogger scares people just as much

by Ezzra on Apr 27, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

It would seem so.

I would say that their prerogative has been to get bigger without sacrificing speed. This is still a speed-oriented defense.

Weez the juice!!

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 27, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ruston Webster is awesome, I think he'll be a GM someday soon.

by MFAN on Apr 27, 2009 5:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Do you think that in the draft room they said to each other:

“You know that idiot who ran Culter out of town? Maybe we can fleece him for picks somewhere along the line in this draft.”

I love statements like this: McDaniels traded away next year’s first-round pick to move up for Alphonso Smith. Smith will play nickel in 2009, while the Seahawks will likely be drafting in the top five next April.

by Misfit74 on Apr 27, 2009 5:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Perhaps this is just McDaniels emulating Belicheck

But that seems far fetched, as even Bill B. drafted Seymour at 6. I wish Alphonso Smith well. I do not, however, wish the Bronco’s well. Then again, I’ve hated them since Elway. Come to think of it, Elway broke my heart when he was at Stanford and always found a way to beat the Huskies.

Bring on the top 5 pick.

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Apr 27, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

No way that's a depth chart....

come on Wilson is above Trufant on the CB part, and Adams above grant…? i think not

by JordonB on Apr 28, 2009 12:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs

There are two starting safety spots and two starting CB spots

Ranking one starter above another may not mean anything to do with actual depth…other than they are both starters. Perhaps it has to do with which side they are on.

by cashless on Apr 28, 2009 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

agreed

every single other spot on the board has the starter you’d expect on top, Hasselbeck, Housh, Carlson, J. Jones, W. Jones, Tatupu, Hill, Mebane, Cole, ect. It would be strange if safety was the only position on the board where they listed a non-starter at the top.

by Mind of no mind on Apr 28, 2009 1:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs