Bits and Pieces from Mora
The Seahawks held the first day of voluntary minicamp yesterday, and Coach Mora stuck around to answer questions afterward (courtesy of the TNT). I'll leave you to read the bulk of the interview, as a good deal of the questions were about Mora and his experience so far.
Firstly, we find out that LeRoy Hill is not in attendance:
On Leroy Hill’s absence and whether Mora expected him to be here: “I certainly was hoping he would be. I did not expect him to be. We would like him to be here. We would like him to be getting this work. It’s hard to ever duplicate the things that we’re doing here, the first steps of the process. But that’s a business decision that he made, and I respect that. But I certainly would’ve liked him to be here, yes.”
Mora goes on to explain that Hill hasn't actually signed the tender yet. Hopefully he decides to shake off the spite and come to work.
Now onto the injury notes:
On whether Hasselbeck has any restrictions: “Well, none of us are ready for the season. He has no restrictions in terms of what he can do in practice. We’ll see how it goes. We’ll see how he feels after three hard days. But like I said, I’m cautiously optimistic. I think that Matt has done everything in his power to get himself to the point where he can go on the field today and have a good practice and feel good, and then we just have to see how he reacts.”
It's pretty clear that Matt is not fully healthy. It's also pretty clear that Mora does not care to dole out misinformation. Want further proof?
On why Deion Branch didn’t practice today: “Deion had a little cleanup on his knee a few weeks ago—nothing serious. You guys know, when you’re coming off a major knee injury, for a couple years, sometimes you have to go in there and scope, and get loose bodies out, and clean it up, so it was very minor. This is an extra camp. There’s no need to push him back onto the field. We’re taking a cautious approach with any of those guys that are close. We want to get those guys healthy before we push them back out on the field, and he falls under that umbrella.”
Branch had more knee surgery. As minor as a little arthroscpoic cleaning may be, Branch will be 30 at the start of the season and about 15 months off of a major knee injury. We're still a long way from the start of the season, but keep an eye on Deion.
Mora also talked about holding Walter Jones and Mike Wahle out of practice as both are dinged up. He plans on taking a "cautious approach" with both.
I know it's just early season activity, but I'll be damned if in not getting excited for football season.
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Hill
Do you believe that he’s not playing until he gets under contract some way or another? I imagine they’re working on a deal. He hasn’t signed his franchise tender, yet.
read the rest of the interview :)
On what he meant by saying Hill’s absence was a ‘business decision: "Well, it’s a contractual decision. He has been franchised. He could sign a waiver and come in and practice, or he could come in and sign the tender, come in and practice. I believe he probably just made a business decision that, at this time, it was best for him to stay out. I have not talked to Leroy in a week or two, but we are—our coaches are—in contact with him all the time. There’s no acrimony there. It’s not an acrimonious thing. It’s a business thing. There is no bitterness, there is no back and forth. It’s all very positive. He just made a business decision to stay out this camp."
On whether Hill has been around the facility otherwise: "He’s shown his face around, yeah. It’s not like he’s hiding. It’s not like he’s trying to avoid us. He’s been very reachable, and he knows what’s going on."
It makes sense for Hill to stay away
I don’t know all the intricacies of the Tag rules, but I’m pretty sure that if Hill hasn’t signed the tender or waiver and then he comes to mini-camp, and say, shreds a knee or something, then he’s S.O.L.
And if he does sign the tender, then that officially puts the $9M or whatever against our cap, and also places limitations on what dates the team can negotiate with him or he can sign a long-term deal. Staying away is also one of the few bits of leverage he has to keep negotiations for the long-term deal rolling.
So in the big picture, IMO it’s a non-story. Guys in his situation usually aren’t around for the Spring mini-camps. Sounds like there’s open communication between the parties, so that’s good. Now, if he’s not signed, sealed, and delivered by Training Camp, then I’ll start to get worried.
unfortunatly though, he does in fact have chicken fingers
and the ball just slips right through
by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 8, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
*sigh*
If it’s true that Matt still isn’t healthy, I think it’s time to deal for a QB, whether it be via the draft or with another team. I don’t know if my heart can handle another 4-12 season
There are degrees of unhealthy, it's not purely binary.
He still has the whole summer to get himself ready. The point was that he is not, at this time, 100%.
Yeah, I know
He hasn’t played since Thanksgiving, over 4 months ago. Let’s hope the next 4 months will finish the job.
Listening to his words on Hasselbeck's practice
after reading them, they just aren’t a ringing endorsement. He’s not confident in Hasselbeck’s health, I’m convinced. Still hopeful, and optimistic, as he said, and not sold on needing to take a QB @ 1.04, but he’s not confident in Hasselbeck’s health.
I guess I’m not either, I feel the same way. I guess I would expect that they truly are using this pre-draft camp to evaluate what they have to do at QB, at least, if not to evaluate the the whole team, to support their draft strategy.
It may be time for a calculated risk
As much as drafting a QB with cwith Sanchez’s limited number of starts concerns us all, I think Matthew’s specific injury should cause us all to reconsider Sanchez. Even w/o factoring Hasslebeck’s age into the equation, his disc injury should give everyone pause on a young athlete, let alone one that is 33. I say this all having watched his game versus ore st., fwiw.
We may end up with Sanchez
Stafford is more and more likely to be taken at #1:
http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/04/08/lions-locking-in-on-stafford/
Obviously, take it with a grain of salt, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all.
Re: Reconsider?
I phrased it that way because my impression is that the consensus here is that Sanchez at 4 is too high. Specifically, because of his lack of games started. You don’t need to be a Lewin fanboi to feel reticent in such a small sample size for evaluation. I’m stil not entirely comfortable with the idea.
You're correct.
The general majority here seems to be against Sanchez at 4, though I think a trade down to 9 or 10 would appease most. Or at least that’s the feeling I get.
Pretty much, yeah.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 8, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
If they can't get a trade, they could just wait 3 rounds
until Cleveland, Cincinatti, and Oakland have gone. Then grab Sanchez before Jacksonville can. Now you’re grabbing him at 7, which is cheaper. And those 3 teams have a lot of needs that don’t include QB, so it’s pretty safe.
That would be asinine.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 8, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
3 picks I believe you mean.
Honestly, if you can’t trade down a few picks (even if it’s for a 5th pick) I don’t know why you wouldn’t just wait a few picks, especially if you singled out a pick that you know will be there a few picks later. $10 million dollars saved isn’t chump change. I’m not sure why more people don’t wait to pick sometimes.
Agreed.
I think the reason being is that, though doing so might make sense, the general public and probably a good chunk of the sports media wouldn’t see that. You’re facing a public relations disaster if said player doesn’t work out.
How ridiculous is the pay structure for rookies when we’re talking about just letting your pick slide? You’re supposed to WANT the first pick, and it seems like year after year people try to get out of it.
Well then a team that needs a QB
like SF, Tampa, the Jets, or even Denver might trade up to one of those picks to take Sanchez. If he really was our guy, we don’t want to let three picks pass by only to find out Oakland traded picks with Tampa, and Sanchez is off the board. Then we’re in a position where we don’t have Sanchez, and the two guys taken at 5 and 6 are also gone from the top of our board.
by SeaTownBlueDevil on Apr 8, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions
No, what you do is have your picker stand there with the card that says
“we want Sanchez” and then wait. If a trade is announced, you just walk up and take your pick. Hell, you could even have your guy stand right next to the announcer guy and just wait until either Cleveland, Cincinatti, and Oakland have picked or until a trade is announced. Then grab your guy before anyone else can.
A team can trade the rights to a player
After he is drafted, as New York and San Diego did with Eli Manning and Philip Rivers. So one of those three teams could easily draft Sanchez under a handshake-type deal with a team further down.
Skipping your pick intentionally is an interesting idea in principle, but I would guess that for most teams, the risks (losing your player, angering your player/agent, annoying the commissioner) outweigh the potential reward ($). Although I concede that the financial reward is pretty substantial if you move down from (say) #1 to #3.
What this really illustrates is that rookie salaries/contracts need to get fixed, quickly. I’m beating a dead horse (incidentally, never bet on a horse named First-Round Bust) but it’s ridiculous that a team would legitimately want to move down simply because the costs of drafting the “best” player are too high.
Ya I definately meant wait 3 picks...
didn’t even notice that mistake. That will teach me to forget to proof-read!
Why?
Sanchez has been impressive in almost every game he’s played in.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Apr 8, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I would say a receiver sounds like a bigger need than a QB. (Branch is still not 100 %)
Matt looked good on NFL Network, Michelle Bisner asked him about he is back. Man, it was good seeing Howsyourvanilla in Seahawks blue.
Cogito Ergo Sum
They arent playing football.
Matt’s public opinion of his health is below irrelevant. If it hurt to bend over and tie his cleats everday, do you believe he would say so? And as much as seeing him running around is heartening hear, its not football. He still has the herniation, they don’t go away. There is a very good chance his career ended last august.
Yes....... they are playing Football.
Herniation….. it’s not a concussion problem, it’s not a Bo type injury. Hernias can be managed with PT.
Cogito Ergo Sum
They arent playing football.
And this isn’t a semantics issue. Until he get tackled, I don’t think we should believe a thing from the hawks on this issue. The treatment options for herniated discs are basically PT or surgery. And id wager PT is pushed hard by most docs not because its greater efficacy, but because surgery is invasive and far from a sure thing. Anyone know what docs the hawks sent hasslebeck to?

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