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Alex Magee at 68

Alex Magee

Birthdate: April 28, 1987

Height/Weight: 6'2 5/8"/298

Position: DT/DE

College: Purdue, 50 games played

Notable Stats: 92.5 tackles, 14 tackles for a loss, 6 sacks, 3 forced fumbles, 3 blocked kicks, 1 interception

NFL Combine: 5.09/40, 30/225, 29.5"/vert, 7.53/3 cone

My Take: There's two ways to get value in the draft. Find a player devalued for the wrong reasons. That's the tactic Tim Ruskell has been praised for. The other is to find the players that's future is better than his past. That's the tactic Tim Ruskell has largely avoided. Ruskell has drafted a handful of project picks, and, to date, not one has really panned out. Chris Spencer has yet to be worth a first round pick. Baraka Atkins has only shown glimpses and could still fizzle and fade away. Seattle is still awaiting any returns from Jordan Kent. That doesn't mean it's a bad tactic, or even, for that matter, that Ruskell's eye for potential is not as keen as his eye for polish, just that, so far, one tactic has served Seattle well, and one hasn't.

Alex Magee is a raw pick, that's not so much raw in technique as production, if you'll suffer me an abused adjective. Magee has a good build, good athleticism and good technique. His potential is that of an above average defensive tackle, but if build, athleticism and technique is all that determined how teams drafted, Fili Moala and Dorell Scott would be rated well above Ziggy Hood and Peria Jerry. And maybe they are. Magee didn't produce, and his game tape isn't impressive. He's made his way into the mid-rounds through drills, practice and the Senior Bowl.

After 22 starts at defensive tackle, Magee played his senior season at defensive end. If you're like me and you see a pattern in Seattle's recent personnel moves and actually give credence to the "West Coast Defense", then you probably see that selfless move that probably hurt his draft stock as a selfless move that put Magee on the Seahawks' radar. Magee is a big fella, and though he played at 285 his senior season, he's the kind of 300 pound 21 year old that's comfortably 315 at 25. His age is a point in his favor, and not to harp on this point too very much, but were he 24 in 2008 like Jerry, Magee would have recorded more than 3.5 sacks. But that's all he did get, and as a defensive end. That and his tape make Magee a third round pick with pretty good upside, but also little promise of professional success.

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Looks solid to me. Him and Craig Terrill could be buddies.

I never thought I’d say this, but I’m suffering from draft burnout. Someone please hit me in the back of the head with a large blunt object and then wake me come draft day.

by LantermanC on Apr 8, 2009 2:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Fili Moala will be the best DT in this draft.

I mean, he’s related to Haloti Ngata and is a Samoan on the USC football team and everything.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Apr 8, 2009 2:39 PM PDT reply actions  

If you want Terrill 2.0

maybe take a look at Vance Walker in the late rounds. Man it’s tough to find DTs that don’t have something wrong with them.

by t.hast12 on Apr 8, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Our 2nd round pick is coming up soon in mockingthedraft.com

I wonder who JM will pick? Especially now that Duke and Mack are gone.

by LantermanC on Apr 8, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Apr 8, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Harvin, Britton, and Pettigrew are all still available as well.

JM had Harvin gone at 7, and Britton at 24. No Britton, but I’ve seen a lot of mocks where he’s gone at 21 or so, a lot of it depends on how high Oher goes I think.

by LantermanC on Apr 9, 2009 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

A Florida WR?

:(

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Apr 9, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

As far as I'm concerned,

Harvin is like a Nate Burleson 2.0.

by LantermanC on Apr 9, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Which really isn't that great, so would it still justify an early second round pick?

Also, Harvin, for all his alleged versatility, hasn’t ever had experience as a returner if what I’ve heard is true.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Apr 9, 2009 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, I'm assuming 6-800 receiving yards

a few trick plays, 200 or so running yards, and some great kick returns.

by LantermanC on Apr 10, 2009 8:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'd rather not use a 2nd round pick on somebody who might only get 6 receiving yards.

All bad joking aside, I think 600-800 receiving yards is attainable for Harvin, but he doesn’t seem like a guy exploding with potential. Those stats you mentioned seem like they might be the norm over his career.

by SeaTownBlueDevil on Apr 10, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

AP photos

Would it be possible to limit photos to ones that are directly relevant to the post? If I pull up a post, I’d like to be able to jump straight into the content. With this pic (and others, eg. the Hasselbeck pic accompanying the Crabtree post), I’m initially confused and hence forced to read the caption, which (unlike all the other content) may not be relevant or insightful.

Maybe I’m the only one who’s bothered by this. If so, carry on.

by cyberwulf on Apr 8, 2009 4:37 PM PDT reply actions  

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