Ten Attainable Steps to Make Seattle's Bad Defense Great
or The Other Side of Mount Heart Attack
I'm not a bomb thrower and it wasn't my intention to hate on a team not yet born. Instead, I wanted to present a reasonable expectation for Seattle's defense. And now I want to offer ten ways it can be so much better. These are not armchair-GM moves. These are not if-I-were-coach moves. These are existing roster, existing coaching staff, say, possibilities that one-by-one could push this defense towards elite.
- Darryl Tapp becomes great. Somehow even Seahawks fans forget how good Tapp has been. Somehow even Seahawks coaches ignore how good Tapp can be. He's 24. The one thing that separated Tapp from being an elite pro-prospect was his height, and 27 starts and 15.5 sacks later, it's probably time we table that concern. See, Tapp was a monster at Virginia Tech. Knowledge of his dominance has been lost in the morass of time, but Tapp had 21.5 sacks, 40 total tackles for a loss and 57 quarterback hurries in just two and half seasons starting. It's puzzling that Tim Ruskell was smart enough to see Tapp for what he could do and brave enough to commit a second round pick to him, only to watch his coaching staff sit him to start 2008, and then have Ruskell himself replace him in 2009. If he hasn't, damn straight he hasn't. There's not an end other than Kerney that should be starting ahead of Tapp.
- Brandon Mebane becomes great.
- Mebane's greatness buoys Colin Cole. Cole can crack single blockers, but that's not his role. It won't matter though if Mebane can be good enough to demand double teams and keep Cole working over the left guard. See, Cole has never worked alongside muscle. He's always been the muscle and he's just not muscle enough to protect a pure three-tech. Believe it or not, that makes him a lot like Pat Williams. Williams didn't get regular starts until he was 29, and the first Bills' defense he played for was some kind of awful. In fact, Williams wasn't part of a good or even average run defense until 2003, when the Bills decided to team him with...oh...someone by the name of Sam Adams. The next two seasons Buffalo was top five in opponent rush yards per attempt. Williams left prior to 2005, joined Kevin Williams, and formed the impenetrable "Williams Wall". Does Cole have that potential? He might. He might just look like a whole other beast alongside his beastliness, Brandon Me!Bane!
- Kelly Jennings is as bad as he looked. Only New Orleans allowed more yards-per-game to #1 receivers, 90.1 to Seattle's 87.9. Third place Detroit allowed over ten fewer yards than either. No team allowed more than Seattle's 61.8 to #2 receivers. Given Marcus Trufant is good, even great, and his reputation hardly suffered a bit despite Seattle's total secondary collapse, it's fair to say something was rotten in Denmark. Even Brian Russell is not capable of such single-handed destruction.
- Ken Lucas is an absolute steal. The 30 year old Lucas is still in his prime and played on a top ten pass defense, according to two separate advanced metrics. If Jennings is as bad as he looked and Lucas even top twenty good, the net improvement could be startling.
- Josh Wilson becomes a deadly nickelback. It's debatable whether Wilson can hang with top receivers, but Wilson has the skill-set to be an intimidating presence at nickelback. He's faster, more physical and has better ball-skills than all but the best slot receivers. Playing between two competent cover corners, Wilson could be targeted a lot. Wilson intercepted three passes and forced three fumbles, making him if not Seattle's best defensive back, Seattle's most dangerous defensive back.
- Seattle's interception rate regresses towards the mean. Seattle had nine interception in 2008. The 2008 average was about an interception on 2.6% of all pass plays. Seattle's defense recorded an interception on just under 1.6% of all pass plays. That's the difference of about 6 interceptions or about 270 yards of field position.
- Unleash Jamar Adams.
- Seattle's rush defense aids the pass defense. Switching Julian Peterson and Kelly Jennings for Aaron Curry and Ken Lucas gives Seattle eight starters that are above average to dominant run stoppers. Nine if you count Deon Grant as a free safety or cover 2 safety. Ten if you replace Russell with Adams. Eleven if Cole thrives alongside Mebane. That would make Seattle a potentially elite run defense. Brian Burke found that run defense is the least important component to winning. Except -- check that again. That's run defense as measured by rushing yards allowed per attempt. It doesn't take a Williams wall to become stout when defending a team that's simply running out the clock. Nor does it take Howard Green and Craig Terrill for rushing yards per attempt to balloon when a team's protecting a lead and can sit pass. I contacted Brian and he told me he thought the idea was interesting and might look into it by looking at just the first three quarters of football, the time before a team could kill the clock and pervert its yards per attempt. Until then lets hold onto two hopeful truths. 1. Burke's research isn't complete and may contain an important flaw. 2. His recent research argues passing predictability, that is, passing on passing downs like 2nd or 3rd and long, has a dramatic negative impact on passing efficiency. In other words, if Seattle's run defense can stuff the run, it could do wonders for Seattle's pass defense.
- Lawrence Jackson, Brandon Mebane and Josh Wilson are 24. Baraka Atkins, Red Bryant and Darryl Tapp are 25. Lofa Tatupu and Leroy Hill are 27. And among major defensive contributors, only Patrick Kerney is post-prime, 32.
No wishcasting about Kerney's health, though he could still be healthy. No backwards-looking indictments of John Marshall, though, undefinable as it may be, probably is a poor defensive coordinator. No false hopes pinned on a coaching staff that's earned no such optimism. Just a lot of talent and some not so far-fetched scenarios. Seattle starts with a below average to bad defense, but is ten attainable steps from a good to great defense. Can September come soon enough?
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Nice post, and great Adams footage.
I still can’t believe this kid hasn’t sniffed the playing field yet, especially considering his competition.
It's great to be a Florida Gator!
What I just don't get is that the coaches haven't seen a need at safety
That remains mindboggling.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Not if you think the coaches believe in Jamar Adams
If they think he can be a good starter, then there’s no reason they should see a major need at safety.
by The Ancient Mariner on May 20, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Mebane!
This post was unecessarily positive and you’ve succeeded in sending me on yet another rollercoaster ride of expectations between yesterday and today.
Agree
Yesterday I was moments away from taking a steak knife to my wrists. Today I’m equating our D to the Titans of last year.
I CAN’T HANDLE IT
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
It's for the reasons listed here that I remain hopeful.
Though not optimistic. This post, to me, reads “what if all our players play up to their potential?” Everything here is plausible but the confluence of more than a couple seems improbable.
But good god I love that Jamar Adams video.
I don't think its too hopeful
to imagine that our new coaches can at least recognize talent when they see it and scheme accordingly. But I appreciate the attempt at balance since it seems like it was at least in part a response to my comments.
It might seem that way, but no, not really.
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture
Indeed it did
I especially love Tebow going “I will run straight through him oh yeah bawby!” and basically looking like he tried to run into a brick wall, flopping onto the ground.
I’d like to see Adams try to tackle Brandon Jacobs at full steam some day. Should be fun.
by Thomas Beekers on May 20, 2009 4:58 AM PDT up reply actions
I just want to see what the new defense looks like
Or if it’s just going to be more of the same. Somewhere deep inside I have a hope that they’ll come up with something completely revolutionary that will change the league, but probably not.
I'm not so concerned with 'changing the league'
but changing our defense from bottom-feeder would be nice. I like the idea of revolutionary change. I hope our staff is innovative and creative enough to approach that.
I'd be happy with above average
I’d be stoked if we could pull out a top 15 D
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
It feels like this post is a reaction to the comments from the last post.
Even if that is true, one of the things that I like about your analysis John, is that you give a best and worse-case scenario with a lot of the things you talk about. No one can predict the future, not even a GM or a coach, and a lot of things are out of their control. But I think that your “grim truth” article is certainly a possibility(although would have been far more amazing of a prediction a year ago) considering how defense was played last season, and that the above average defense we all hope can happen is also a possibility, with the likely result being somewhere in the middle.
I am guessing that we will not fall apart like last year, but there will be some stretches of great play interrupted by maddening breakdowns, like 05. I am an optimist, but I do think that our defense is on it’s way up, just that it will not get to be a top 10 this year. In the teens is what I expect.
I'm guessing it's less of a reaction,
and more of a planned piece. He wrote the first piece to lead up to the second, which is why I was bewildered when random people started criticizing it, since JM rarely gives a one-sided view of things.
2010 Seahawks Mock: 1A: Eric Berry S, 1B: Ndamukong Suh DT, 2: Charles Brown OT, 4:Zac Robinson QB, 5: Stafon Johnson RB 6: Will Tukuafu DE, 7: Kerry Meier WR
Also acceptable, trade for Patrick Chung and draft Ed Wang so everyone can Wang Chung tonight.
Maybe you are right
and he is just a good enough writer to make them seem like they are not a planned two-part piece.
To begrudgingly defend Marshall for just a moment
It wasn’t so much that he was a poor D-coord, but one that was out of his time; what at some point in the past a defense was solid and steady (and even successful) would be considered vanilla and predictable in today’s NFL. Other teams knew EXACTLY what Marshall and the Seahawks were going to do before the game even started, and I’m sure that doomed us (well, maybe not as much as all the injuries in 2008).
We have a ton of talent on this defense this year, but it’s just a matter of using it to it’s fullest potential. I’m certain Marshall would never be able to do that, so the only question is if the current braintrust can make it all work.
I may be an optimist
but I feel like 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 9 are all highly likely. I mean, Tapp and Mebane have already been great. If Mebane sustains his success, I can easily see him keeping up Cole. That combination, with Tapp and Kerney, could lead to a monster line. Wilson has always looked like a dangerous Nickel to me, and if Lucas plays well we could have a scary secondary suddenly as well. As long as Russell doesn’t pick Trufant out of the play too often…
I feel like this hinges on two things: Mebane and Tapp sustaining their success, and Lucas playing well as a CB. If both of these happen, they can bring up the rest of the defense to make us look pretty solid.
I took 10 to mean
that since they are all young, they all have a good chance of improving. Which I felt was less likely then some of the others. But definitely possible.
How is number 4 a positive?
And that video of Jamar Adams trucking Tebow is great, but did he have to do it to Tebow? That’s our quarterback of the future. He’s even more of a Ruskell -type player than Laurinatiis.
2010 Seahawks Mock: 1A: Eric Berry S, 1B: Ndamukong Suh DT, 2: Charles Brown OT, 4:Zac Robinson QB, 5: Stafon Johnson RB 6: Will Tukuafu DE, 7: Kerry Meier WR
Also acceptable, trade for Patrick Chung and draft Ed Wang so everyone can Wang Chung tonight.
Number 4 leads into number 5
It would mean a lot of the blame for one of the worst defenses in the league has been alleviated by the signing of Lucas.
Look at it like this
if Jennings wasn’t that bad, than Seattle has bigger problems, like a free safety that’s worse than his worse critic could imagine. If Jennings was that bad, than Lucas should be a huge improvement no matter his level of play and other players, like Russell, might not be as bad as we fear. In football it’s hard to pinpoint one player’s true talent level, so we must think in relationships. Now that he’s benched, the more responsible he was for Seattle’s failures in pass defense, the better.
Great post.
Man that Jamar Adams vid was nasty…and against Timmay no less!
by Airborne Hawk Guy on May 19, 2009 8:55 PM PDT reply actions
Only Ruskell can be referred to as Timmay.
Tebow is called “Jumping Jesus”.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on May 19, 2009 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Excellent point.
Jumping Jesus promises to play harder than anyone in the history of the universe not named Jamar Adams.
by Airborne Hawk Guy on May 20, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Seeing Tebow getting pounded like that makes me happy.
by aerozeppelin on May 19, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you see this?
This is Timmay with regards to Tebow.
2010 Seahawks Mock: 1A: Eric Berry S, 1B: Ndamukong Suh DT, 2: Charles Brown OT, 4:Zac Robinson QB, 5: Stafon Johnson RB 6: Will Tukuafu DE, 7: Kerry Meier WR
Also acceptable, trade for Patrick Chung and draft Ed Wang so everyone can Wang Chung tonight.
Well, if I ever had notions that I would ever stop reading Field Gulls,
those quickly vanished after the fantastic Hamlet reference in #4.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
"fantastic"?
Referencing the most important work in the english literature (outside of the bible, which I guess technically is sorta english) isn’t exactly PhD. level stuff.
That said, John is frequently referencing stuff that I don’t get! He is a very, very good writer.
I just like Shakespeare, let me be a nerd in peace.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on May 19, 2009 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions
You just missed EdCC's "As You Like It" at the Edmonds Center for the Arts.
It was open to all actors in the community, some of which were former Shakespearean actors. It was pretty good.
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by BrettJMiller on May 20, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I may be wrong,
but I don’t think the bible is considered English literature, but a translation from whatever language it was originally in, Greek or Hebrew or something.
2010 Seahawks Mock: 1A: Eric Berry S, 1B: Ndamukong Suh DT, 2: Charles Brown OT, 4:Zac Robinson QB, 5: Stafon Johnson RB 6: Will Tukuafu DE, 7: Kerry Meier WR
Also acceptable, trade for Patrick Chung and draft Ed Wang so everyone can Wang Chung tonight.
Both Hebrew and Greek
Old Testament: Hebrew
New Testament: Greek
Which is why there are about 10 different accepted English versions of the Bible, varying fairly widely in interpretations in spots …
Far more than ten
but among the respected ones, I wouldn’t say that any of the interpretive variations are of any great significance.
by The Ancient Mariner on May 20, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
True
But when people seem to place so much emphasis on literalism (is that a word?), even minor variations would be considered major to an outsider.
Yes, literalism is a word
and certainly, there are those who take that sort of attitude; by and large, though, the various differences just aren’t big enough to tick off anybody but the KJV-only types (who are loud, but there aren’t many of them).
by The Ancient Mariner on May 20, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, that was fucking crazy.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on May 20, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep the conspiracy is
That Shakespeare had a hand in the writing of the KJB. Unlikely, but in terms of the Bible vs Shakespeare argument, Shakespeare wins (or ties, depending on how you look at it).
the bible technically is sorta english?
wow.
and even ignoring that, Shakespeare runs circles around the bible and many writings in our lifetime and today are running circles around Shakespeare.
by B.B.Finnegan on May 19, 2009 10:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I said important, not good.
There’s a big difference.
Nobody today runs circles around Shakespeare
and nobody ever has. You might put a handful of folks ahead of him, but nobody by much.
by The Ancient Mariner on May 20, 2009 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions
What is being written today is always more important then what was written yesterday.
For the simple fact that it is most applicable to our lives and society itself, no mater how good or bad you may feel it is. I will say that there is about 1000 times more crap written today, but that’s only because reading and writing has become so prevalent.
Having said that, Mark Twain is someone who clearly ran circles around Shakespeare. To not understand the importance of Huckelberry Fin and its impact on the literary world is to not understand literature.
Off the top of my head, current day authors like Paulo Coelo, Palahniuk, Cormac McCarthy or even Kurzweil touch on subjects, ways of writing, and ideas that Twain and Shakespeare wouldn’t dare go near or could’ve even imagined.
Though it’s hard to compare Shakespeare to Literature, since they are plays not novels, and are best enjoyed that way. Which is in a way a testament to how good of a craftsman Shakespeare was that we even attempt the jump. One would perhaps then be best to include all storytelling, but then you’d have to include films.
by B.B.Finnegan on May 20, 2009 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Except that films rely on visual images much more than plays to tell their stories
That’s why the Shakespeare—>literature thing works — the emphasis in Shakespeare’s time was on the words, not the visuals, even though it’s an oral medium.
This is the craziest thing I've read in a while.
Time obscures just how revolutionary Shakespeare was to the English language and to English literature. He basically invented what we think of as internal conflict, he revolutionized what can be done with plot and character, he invented several genres and sub-genres, and basically created modern English. Almost every major literary figure since has used him as a major touchstone.
Mark Twain is fantastic and it’s spelled “Huckleberry Finn”.
Palahniuk???!?
I'm not arguing with you on the importance of Shakespeare
We’re also way off topic and Morgan’s probably going to tell us to shut up soon.
But anyway, I think I’m getting intermixed on my ideas of literature in general vs only English literature. You are mostly right in terms of English literature, but Greek tragedy came far before Shakespeare, which has the same principles and of which Shakespeare probably studies among other regional works as well, and then came up with his own ideas and made what came before better. It’s not like he just thought it all up out of nowhere. And it’s not like without him literature itself would never have progressed.
I look at it this way, Shakespeare is one stepping stone in the long line that is literature. Every book that is created adds one more stone, this is why I say the new stones that are in the midst of being created today are far more important than the one’s we’ve long since stepped over. I do agree that Shakespeare is a bit larger of a stone then most, his influence is undeniable not just in English literature, but he also borrowed from the past, the stones that came before him, and just as he left them behind, we are leaving him behind. Just the way it goes.
by B.B.Finnegan on May 20, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
No Voltaire love
I am ashamed of you guys… It is like talking about comedy and forgetting Lenny Bruce. Voltaire was able to make fun of people to their face and was then rewarded. Got to love Voltaire.
by Built2Spill on May 20, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't think I agree with a single word you wrote there
including, to borrow from Dorothy Parker, “it” and “the.” Which is fine, since this is a football board, not a doctoral exam.
by The Ancient Mariner on May 20, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed with the Shakespeare comment.
Shakespeare is like the Beatles: old, British, and overrated compared to today’s standards (sorry to offend anyone, just my opinion).
2010 Seahawks Mock: 1A: Eric Berry S, 1B: Ndamukong Suh DT, 2: Charles Brown OT, 4:Zac Robinson QB, 5: Stafon Johnson RB 6: Will Tukuafu DE, 7: Kerry Meier WR
Also acceptable, trade for Patrick Chung and draft Ed Wang so everyone can Wang Chung tonight.
Can't call something overrated according to standards that didn't exist at the time
Everything in context, my friend. By that standard, the late 60s Packers and late 70s Steelers are old and overrated, as I’m fairly sure they couldn’t compete in today’s NFL.
Sort of...
Football teams aren’t really looking at plays from the 60’s and 70’s to see how certain formations or play calling became prevalent. We read Shakespeare to see how certain genres came to be, but we have the choice to read a ton of other stuff. It’s not quite apples and oranges, but perhaps oranges and tangerines.
2010 Seahawks Mock: 1A: Eric Berry S, 1B: Ndamukong Suh DT, 2: Charles Brown OT, 4:Zac Robinson QB, 5: Stafon Johnson RB 6: Will Tukuafu DE, 7: Kerry Meier WR
Also acceptable, trade for Patrick Chung and draft Ed Wang so everyone can Wang Chung tonight.
Bite your tongue
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by BrettJMiller on May 20, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Robert Alter
has a great breakdown of the Pentateuch as literature, and it’s actually staggeringly complex. Unsurprisingly a lot is lost in translation, but in Hebrew, it’s pure prose, beautifully written. And filled with allusions, foreshadows, type scenes and complex, symmetrical structuring of the plotlines. If you’re into that kind of thing. I mean, it took so damn long to write, it’s not going to be a first draft, is it.
by jacobstevens on May 20, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
No religion
We can probably take a cue from LL and avoid even oblique references.
Also, Hamlet’s pretty cool. I had the pleasure to see it performed at the Globe in London.
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on May 19, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Not to mention...
“Something is rotten in Denmark” is pretty much a proverb by now, rather than a quote.
by Thomas Beekers on May 20, 2009 4:56 AM PDT up reply actions
No matter your opinion,
Morgan’s writing is a breath of fresh air after being exposed to the other pages dedicated to the Hawks, ESPN, et cetera
It's great to be a Florida Gator!
by Wayward Llama on May 20, 2009 5:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Mollified.
a bit. Looking forward to September.
Great post
All of these possibilities are dependent on the true talent level of the players. If these guys are as talented as Ruskell thinks, it’s not unreasonable to conclude that this many young players on the come could lead to a vastly improved defense. But if they’re not … OK, I don’t want to entertain that thought right now.
We should be able to expect at least one or two breakout seasons
with jumps in level of play, unless the coaching staff and motivation is severely lacking. That is part of why youth is so important to a defense. Mebane seriously improved going into last season, while Tatupu did going into his 2nd and 3rd seasons, even Tapp has showed some good increased and Hill put on some muscle.
If we see no improvements in the youngsters, our concern should be with the coaching staff and strength/conditioning coaches.
Agreed ... in a sense
To borrow from the Mariners for a second, you can expect Yuni and Lopez to get better, but to expect them to be all-stars is absurd. So, if Ruskell has correctly evaluated their actual talent level, then yeah — we should expect a significant jump in the unit’s overall effectiveness from their incremental improvements. But if they’re not as talented as we think, those incremental improvements aren’t going to be enough.
Actually, you can't
since Yuni’s too old and has been regressing for years, and Lopez has clearly plateaued.
by The Ancient Mariner on May 20, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, but
when players are as young as Bane, Tapp, et al., you should be able to expect some to break out, at least to some degree, if the coaches are doing their job well.
by The Ancient Mariner on May 21, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
They are two different sports.
In football, if you have the same skills but are slightly faster, stronger, and heavier, you have more of an impact. Almost regardless of position. In baseball, more quickness might lead to better range on defense, but being stronger only leads to better hitting if you keep your flexibility and keep working on your swing. It is more of a skills and hand-eye coordination sport.
Football is certainly predicated on skills, but physicality is more important in it than baseball, great college players can fail in football due to a lack of some physical trait.
Not necessarily
In football, if you have the same skills but are slightly faster, stronger, and heavier, you have more of an impact.
Not if you’re slightly less quick, slightly less agile, and slightly less flexible, or have slightly less body balance, or have slightly poorer reaction time, etc. . . . speed, strength, and weight are only the most obvious aspects of physical ability — they aren’t all of it by any means. And positioning matters in football to a greater degree than it does in baseball, too.
by The Ancient Mariner on May 21, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely.
But what I was trying to say was that in football, younger players working out make big gains, while older players are working out hard just to maintain usually, and that the strides youngsters make depend in part on the physical side of the sport.
That's true
I think in baseball you generally either have it or you don’t — your talent is your talent, and it’s pretty tough to make sweeping improvements as a hitter or pitcher through technique. Hence, the absolutely futile attempts to make Yuni a more patient hitter.
I disagree with that
especially as regards pitchers; for them, it’s always possible to learn a new pitch and completely reinvent themselves. Tim Wakefield would be one excellent example, as would other knucklers; you can also look at Matt Thornton and John Danks and the strides they’ve made since going to the White Sox and being taught the cut fastball. Go back a little further and you hit the heyday of the splitter, which turned Mike Scott from also-ran to Cy Young winner. Then too, sometimes pitchers make strides with command at a later point in their careers than one might expect, and take a real step forward; you could put Randy Johnson in that category. He always had the talent — it was other things that he needed to address before he could take the big step forward and become a true ace.
by The Ancient Mariner on May 22, 2009 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Jamar Adams
I love the video and I want to see him on the turf at Qwest, but I doubt that any professional O-lines are going to leave giant holes up the middle like Florida’s did in that vid.
Mora concerns me over the long term
I think in his first year this team will be pumped and as long as they are winning- be very good. But when the shine wears off, what is Mora made of?
My fingers are crossed that injuries do not plague this team again in 2009.
If Mora has chosen the right coaches
and recieves great talent, his only job will be what he seems to be good at, chemistry and motivation.
Grant and Russell
Can someone please explain why Russell is playing FS and not SS? That’s how it was in 2007 and they did fine. Russell is the hitter and Grant is your typical FS. Makes no sense.
Unfortunately, Russell can't hit either.
Cue BrianL’s great .GIF of him whiffing on that sack of Matt Cassell that any one of us could have made
Although, I must admit I was pleasantly surprised when Russell forced a fumble on Ryan Grant in the divisional round of the 2007 playoffs vs. Green Bay.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on May 20, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Ah, I've shown this .gif to so many other Hawk fans
It’s quite the gem. Immediately after, I show them this piece of hilarity
by PRIDEin253 on May 20, 2009 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Still Helped force a sack
Personally, I don’t think that’s that bad of a play. He helped make a sack. Pretty sure every safety has done that on a blitz. Not saying he’s good just saying that this play is blown out of proportion. If Cassell gained 20 yds or the first down then that ’s a different story.
Russel defender....get him!
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevon Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200
Cassel just as easily could have.
The play was designed for Russell to come up with the sack, not for him to whiff so badly that his momentum carried him about 3 yard past the QB and hope the defensive line is coming with very good push.
Any competent safety completely drills Cassel here and maybe even force a fumble.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on May 21, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I love the boisterous cheer by Russell after the play ends.
Dude! That play RULED! I"M THE MAN! YES!
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevon Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200
Though, in Grant's defense
my grandmother could probably force him to fumble
It's great to be a Florida Gator!
by Wayward Llama on May 21, 2009 4:45 AM PDT up reply actions
She's a better safety than Russell,
though no better than average.

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