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NFC West Roundtable: Running Back

The four NFC West blogs, Revenge of the Birds, Niners Nation, Turf Show Times and Field Gulls, are running position roundtables. Today, running backs. Each blogger gives and an individual grade (A through F), but we collectively rank them.

San Francisco 49ers
Blogger: Fooch

I bounced back and forth on what grade to give the 49ers rushing attack.  On the one hand the 49ers run game ranked near the bottom of the league in rushing.  On the other hand, they've still got Frank Gore.  As the NFL has moved towards more two and three-back systems, the 49ers have struggled to find a running back to complement Frank Gore.  By himself, Frank Gore is an A+ running back.  He became the first 49ers running back ever to put together three straight 1,000 yard rushing seasons.  I think that says even more given the inept nature of the 49ers overall offense.  They've lacked consistency at quarterback and their offensive line has struggled mightily at times.  The best season for the offensive line happened to come in 2006 when Frank Gore set the 49ers single season rushing record.  And that was a 7-9 team with a second year Alex Smith at the helm.

The reason I'm knocking the 49ers down from an A is because of the rest of the rushing situation.  Similar to the Cardinals running backs, the 49ers RBs behind Frank Gore are based in large part of potential.  In an ideal situation, Gore is the main back, Glen Coffee puts on 10-20 pounds and is the short yardage "power" back and UDFA Kory Sheets is the speed back, a'la the Earth, Wind and Fire of the New York Giants.

The 49ers do have two other backs in camp, Michael Robinson and Thomas Clayton.  Michael Robinson was convered to running back from QB out of college and has found a niche in special teams more than anything else.  He is also available for Wildcat formations, which may go the way of the DoDo in the Jimmy Raye offense.

And then there's Thomas Clayton.  Clayton has been one of the top running backs in preseason play in each of his first two season, which naturally means the bandwagon filled up quickly for this guy.  However, he has yet to touch the field in regular season action and he was never offered a contract off the practice squad by another team.  If Kory Sheets shines in training camp, Clayton may be hitting the streets.

All things considered, I think the 49ers rushing attack will be markedly improved this season.  Frank Gore will still be Frank Gore, but the question will come down to whether some combination of Coffee/Sheets/Clayton steps up.  There is a lot of potential there, but none of them has proven a thing in the NFL regular season.  They're just as much the key to the 2009 offense as anything else.  Grade: B

Turf Show Times
Blogger: VanRam

He can run, he can catch a pass, he needs to work on his pass blocking a little bit. The Rams have a real playmaker in Steven Jackson, a guy so talented the new coaching regime is building the offense around him. Of course, they'd probably build the offense around a solid running game anyway, but Jackson gives them an edge. The biggest criticism pinned on Jackson in recent years is his seeming inability to play a full 16 games. That's not entirely fair. After a career year in '06, when he led the league in yards from scrimmage, Jackson missed four games in each of the next two season. However, the offensive line, or lack thereof, shoulders some of the blame for his bruised thighs and other ailments. He did nevertheless manage to crank out 1000 yard seasons in each of his last four. This year the Rams have significantly upgraded the line with the additions of C Jason Brown, drafting OT Jason Smith, and bringing in blocking specialists un FB Mike Karney and TE Billy Bajema, some are even calling it a team strength, with the stated goal of making Jackson and the run central their offensive philosophy.

Behind Jackson, the depth chart has some more question marks. They've got a speed guy in Antonio Pittman, but he didn't make much of his chance with Jackson out last year. Was it just the line? Kenneth Darby, an in-season pickup, has been a nice surprise and looks like a legit third down guy. Veteran Sakmon Gado will get a shot in camp, and all eyes are anxious to see exactly what kind of back seventh round pick Texas product Chris Ogbonnaya can be outside of a Big 12 spread offense. There's just not enough known commodities behind Jackson to feel good about a replacement...at least not yet. The team will definitely looks to see who becomes a roster casualty when teams pare down their rosters.

I'd give the Rams an A if they had less of a question mark behind Jackson. Without that, they get a B. Grade: B

Seattle Seahawks
Blogger: John Morgan

Seattle's Julius Jones and TJ Duckett are just average rushers, maybe better, but that both are average, and that Jones can contribute as blocker and receiver, makes them together a bit above average -- just not "B" above average. Jones is the complete back. He has a little shake, a little second gear burst, some power, some cutting ability and above average vision. His speed is hard to determine. At Notre Dame he was a burner, but he no longer looks like much of a homerun threat. He is a very good, albeit stock receiver. He runs a pure rushing route tree: Outs, in, circles, flares, etc. He shouldn't motion into the slot and he won't dazzle with his receiving ability. He will secure the catch and redirect for run after the catch. So he's a steady, productive outlet receiver that can produce on screens.

Duckett is the interior thumper, but not in a traditional sense. He's not pure north-south and can be a bit picky behind the line. He's sort of a one-cut Earl Cambell, but worse. He blows through arm tackles, falls forward and excels at converting short yardage -- all the stock stuff -- but he also has impressive breakaway speed and some big-man moves. He was a workout warrior at Michigan State, and reportedly ran a 4.45 forty. That translates to good field speed. In his last two seasons, in just 127 attempts (mostly in short yardage), Duckett has a run of 29 yards, two of 32 yards and a 53 yard run in week 16 of 2007.

For reserves, Seattle has Justin Forsett, a tiny-powerback (think MJD) type that dominated in the 2007 preseason, but isn't very fast and isn't enough of anything else to tantalize, and Devin Moore, a rookie that isn't much more than a intriguing forty time right now. So no superstars or even superstars to be, but in the right offense, Jones and Duckett could power a very good rushing attack not unlike the Duckett/Dunn duo of the Jim Mora Atlanta Falcons. Grade: C

Arizona Cardinals
Blogger: cgolden

Grading the Cardinals' running backs is difficult because their value is based on potential rather than actual NFL production. The trio of Chris "Beanie" Wells, Tim Hightower and Jason Wright have combined just eleven starts and less than 1,000 combined rushing yards at the NFL level. Jason Wright, an under the radar free agent acquisition, is the longest tenured (five seasons), but he's never logged more than three starts or 62 carries in a season. Tim Hightower, a fifth round pick from a year ago, has the most experience with his seven starts and 143 carries last year, but his 2.8 yards per carry is certainly nothing to brag about. The final member of this trio, Beanie Wells, will be asked play a significant role very early in his career and he's got the talent be a difference maker, but how quickly can he pick up an offense that is night and day from the power running game at Ohio State?

 While that may paint a bleak picture of the Cardinals depth at running back, there is some hope that this group can be more productive than the 2008 trio of Edgerrin James, Hightower and JJ Arrington. Wells has the talent to be more productive than the 30 year old Edge and Hightower has reportedly dropped about 15 pounds from his playing weight last year. While I'd love to grade this group based on potential, I'll swallow my homerism and try and give them an unbiased evaluation. Grade: D

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The problem I see arising is that Frank Gore's fragile-as-glass durability conflicting with

Jimmy Raye trying to run the ball every down possible.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on May 22, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

fragile as glass?

He’s never missed more than 2 games in a season. He’s not the most durable back in the NFL, but he’s definitely not fragile as glass. He had a ton of injury problems in college but has overcome that for the most part. Also, that’s a reason they grabbed Coffee and Sheets. Guys meant to carry some of the load in the Raye offense.

by Fooch on May 22, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deion Branch didn't miss games with the Patriots but he was considered pretty fragile too.

If not missing games, Frank Gore has played hurt on several different occasions, including the later half of last season. His draft stock slipped because of his injuries.

I think Coffee and Sheets were good additions, but obviously with a more expanded ground attack we’re going to have to see how Gore holds up with increased carries.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on May 22, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gore has missed 5 games over the course of his 4 years as an NFL running back.

Edgerrin James missed 12 games in his first 4 years. Warrick Dunn missed 11. Stephen Jackson missed 6.

From the 2005 draft (Gore’s classmates, as it were)…
Ronnie Brown: 13 games missed
Cedric Benson: 13 games missed in 3 years (we’ll leave his Cincy stint out)
Cadillac Williams: 16 games missed

Please do not let your personal view of reality conflict with facts.

by abender20 on May 22, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

fragility

Thanks for the numbers.

However, I do see Fearless Frog’s point above about the fact that Gore plays hurt. That is very true. However, I do think that even with an expanded ground game, the plan is to not have to dramatically increase Gore’s carries because of the younger running backs. It might not work out that way, but I see that as the plan in a perfect world.

by Fooch on May 22, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

good point

I will say there have been times where it feels like Gore gets dinged up a little bit more. At the same time he’s battled through it.

by Fooch on May 22, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He must have been suffering last year

because it wasn’t a great year by any means. And there’s a couple of good pieces on that line. It wasn’t the Kwame Harris 49ers.

by jacobstevens on May 22, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gore's classmates don't exactly have reputations as being ironmen.

You can’t possibly try to say that Frank Gore is not injury prone by comparing him to some backs with very extensive (and in Cadillac Williams’ case, potentially careeer-threatening) injury histories.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on May 22, 2009 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You have the burden of proof

Instead of attacking someone else’s argument, you were the one that said Gore is fragile-as-glass, and so you need to prove Gore is more fragile than other running backs. At the moment, the only one that has provided any evidence is abender.

by John Morgan on May 23, 2009 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's the Crabtree.

He makes the whole team AWESOME!!11

Even Frightfully Overrated Frank will take on the spirit of Barry Sanders with Divastar McShatterfoot on the team.

And yes, the “frightfully overrated” was stolen directly from Frog’s reference to Nnnamnndi.

It's great to be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on May 22, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glad someone remembers that.

Although Asomugha is still a badass.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on May 22, 2009 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

With Wells as a rookie

I don’t think you can completely count out potential. A little harsh. Looks to me like three Cs and Jackson with the B.

by jacobstevens on May 22, 2009 12:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Wells has the potential to be fantastic

and sort of reminds me of Shaun Alexander: Not a tremendous pass-catcher and can’t block well, but has the tools to be an exceptional rusher, especially if given a decent line.

But the Cardinals’ line seems sinfully bad at run-blocking so I don’t expect Wells to make much of an impact right away unless Herman Johnson somehow finds a way into the starting lineup. Furthermore, I don’t expect them to run much at all while Greybeard is still ticking because there’s not much value in making Leaping Larry and Boldin downfield-blocking specialists.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on May 22, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Steven Jackson would be so frickin amazing

with an offensive line in front on him.

It's great to be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on May 22, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Gore is a C

our RBs are for sure D’s.

But I don’t think either is true.

by t.hast12 on May 22, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I conceded later on

after reading he gave a B, and not an A, I’ll concede a B. C was maybe me overreacting.

by jacobstevens on May 26, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty straight-forward and mostly correct

The Rams and the 49ers have proven superstar backs coming off back-to-back (4 and 3) 1000-yard rushing seasons, both of whom put up great receiving numbers. Both are on the right side of 30. Jackson has durability issues but is oh-so-good when on the field.

Seahawks have two proven mediocre backs. Cardinals have nothing proven at all.

So yeah (just repeated the analysis for no good reason), pretty good from all writers. I was all ready to get down to relentlessly mock the 49ers writer again, assuming he’d give out some foolishness again, but the core point is solid: the 49ers have a star RB, their only real question mark is if one of the back-ups steps up.

by Vasilii on May 22, 2009 1:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

grades

Don’t worry. I’d imagine there will be plenty of opportunities to mock me in upcoming positional grades.

by Fooch on May 22, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, you gave a B

First time I read it, I thought for certain, you’d downgraded the unit from A+ with Gore, to just an A for the unit, and I thought it was ludicrous. In fact I thought for sure I saw it twice. But a B I can support.

by jacobstevens on May 22, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not a big fan of grades discussions

As long as the arguments work.

The 49ers QB arguments did nothing for me, but “Gore is a good back” I can get behind. Obviously.

But grades, eh. Sure it’s funny when someone gives a B to what many pundits call the worst QB situation in the league, but pounding the grade doesn’t make the actual argument more or less relevant.

by Vasilii on May 22, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not saying letter grades are relevant

but it’s a common metric we can all understand. Eliminates arguing over what any given assessment means, relatively speaking. Arguing between an A and a B is still arbitrary, but the value is in agreed upon context.

by jacobstevens on May 26, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

QB was enough for me

:(

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on May 22, 2009 8:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hard to argue with this roundtable.

Nice analysis from all. I think they’re all realistic views. Though I also thought Gore’s propensity to be banged up frequently would have been thoughtful to address. Gore and Jackson seem to be on the injury report as much as any other starting RB. No denying their talents, though.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevon Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200

by Misfit74 on May 22, 2009 1:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Great pieces by all four of you guys, and realistic grades as well.

I wonder if the Rams blogger may have incorporated too much of the rush blocking into his grade, though that may have been on purpose. As far as RBs go, I’d have to say that the Rams are in the top 6 and deserve an A grade. I suppose the injury and depth concern could bump them down to a B grade, and I also suppose that instead of 6 or so teams in each grade, that it’s more of a normalized curve. After Peterson, Steve Jackson could make an argument for the second best back.
And I know I’m in the minority in this, but I think Beanie Wells is going to be REALLY good for a few years until his injuries stop him. It won’t matter though since their line is so bad at creating opportunities.

2010 Seahawks Mock: 1A: Eric Berry S, 1B: Ndamukong Suh DT, 2: Charles Brown OT, 4:Zac Robinson QB, 5: Stafon Johnson RB 6: Will Tukuafu DE, 7: Kerry Meier WR
Also acceptable, trade for Patrick Chung and draft Ed Wang so everyone can Wang Chung tonight.

by LantermanC on May 22, 2009 1:47 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Steven Jackson is a fearsome back.

He is certainly in the discussion for a top5 RB. He scares the crap out of me when I wonder if our guys are going to be able to bring him down. Health is the only thing holding his individual accomplishments back.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevon Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200

by Misfit74 on May 22, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

I guess Arizona bloggers feel that their RBs are better than ours. Hard to disagree with them I guess. Everyone overvalues their own players, but I think Jones is a great back, and Duckett could be so much more than he was last year. I just wish we had Weaver back.

2010 Seahawks Mock: 1A: Eric Berry S, 1B: Ndamukong Suh DT, 2: Charles Brown OT, 4:Zac Robinson QB, 5: Stafon Johnson RB 6: Will Tukuafu DE, 7: Kerry Meier WR
Also acceptable, trade for Patrick Chung and draft Ed Wang so everyone can Wang Chung tonight.

by LantermanC on May 22, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Jones is a great back"?

That must be some mighty fine homebrewed Kool-Aid because I don’t know anyone that would call Jones at this point better than above-average (a position I’m skeptical of).

by sammy on May 22, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like him.

Great pass blocker, good enough to get you 1000 yards. Pretty good at catching passes.
It depends on how you define the word great. Are you upset if he’s your number one option? No, or at least I’m not. Could you do better? Sure definitely.

2010 Seahawks Mock: 1A: Eric Berry S, 1B: Ndamukong Suh DT, 2: Charles Brown OT, 4:Zac Robinson QB, 5: Stafon Johnson RB 6: Will Tukuafu DE, 7: Kerry Meier WR
Also acceptable, trade for Patrick Chung and draft Ed Wang so everyone can Wang Chung tonight.

by LantermanC on May 22, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jones is the worst goal line back I've seen

and so can never be considered a #1. He is an above average to good back between the 20s but definitely needs to be paired with a short yardage RB in a committee. Hopefully Duckett can be that guy, because if so our run game will be decent.

by t.hast12 on May 22, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully?

Duckett IS that guy. He’s the best short situation back in the league right now, or close to it. And I think he has the talent to be more than just a short yardage guy.

2010 Seahawks Mock: 1A: Eric Berry S, 1B: Ndamukong Suh DT, 2: Charles Brown OT, 4:Zac Robinson QB, 5: Stafon Johnson RB 6: Will Tukuafu DE, 7: Kerry Meier WR
Also acceptable, trade for Patrick Chung and draft Ed Wang so everyone can Wang Chung tonight.

by LantermanC on May 22, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

We don’t have a plethora of workhorse studs at RB, but they complement each other well, should all benefit from the new blocking scheme, and most importantly, are great value for their salary. Steven Jackson is fantastic, but he’s getting paid handsomely too to reflect it. Meanwhile, we’ve essentially picked up a couple of starting-caliber backs for a relatively low amount who are good at everything but not great at anything.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on May 22, 2009 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duckett is a serious upgrade over Weaver, in any rate.

As much as I liked Weave, and as hostile as he looked with all of the pads and visor, he was pointless in short yardage.

It's great to be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on May 23, 2009 6:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get all the Jones hate.

We could certainly do worse as far as a feature back.

It's great to be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on May 23, 2009 6:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jones

Jones is certainly a solid running back in the right situation, but I agree with sammy that he’s definitely not “great.”

by Fooch on May 22, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's up for debate, but kind of meaningless

The extremely small sample size point is the ruler in this debate. We know what we have in TJ and Julius, and have back-ups for potential. They don’t have any proven, reliable backs on their roster. I love Hightower, but I don’t think he’s shown much greatness, and Wells could be good or could be terrible.

I like Wells’ potential, so yeah, I wouldn’t be surprised if Arizona rushes better next year than we do. But who knows?

by Vasilii on May 22, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

RB's I'd take over "A+Gore"

1. Adrian Peterson, Minnesota
2. Chris Johnson, Tennessee
3. DeAngelo Williams, Carolina
4. Clinton Portis, Washington
5. Steven Jackson, St. Louis
5. Michael Turner, Atlanta
6. Steve Slaton, Houston
7. Matt Forte, Chicago
8. Marshawn Lynch, Buffalo
9. Ryan Grant, Green Bay
10. LaDainian Tomlinson, San Diego or Brian Westbrook, Philadelphia
12. Jonathan Stewart, Carolina
13. Brandon Jacobs, New York Giants

Why wouldn’t you take these backs over Gore? Riddle me that Batman!!!

by PoolNinja on May 22, 2009 9:08 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Good list, but I'd add

14. Knowshon Moreno, DEN
15. Darren Sproles, SD

It's great to be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on May 23, 2009 6:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moreno?

Before he has even played an NFL game? That is ludicrous.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 8, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would not take

4. Clinton Portis, Washington
5. Michael Turner, Atlanta
6. Steve Slaton, Houston
7. Matt Forte, Chicago
8. Marshawn Lynch, Buffalo
9. Ryan Grant, Green Bay
10. LaDainian Tomlinson, San Diego or Brian Westbrook, Philadelphia
12. Jonathan Stewart, Carolina
13. Brandon Jacobs, New York Giants

over Gore.

by John Morgan on May 23, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Jacobs

Whats the beef with Brandon? I haven’t seen him much except a recent games vs seahawks.
PG

by paul2 on May 23, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes I can't recall ever seeing him thrown to.

That could be why. But one just cringes when he breaks out of the first level, imagining a pile of fallen dominoes-. certainly fun good football watch’in.

by paul2 on May 23, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Same w/ Turner?

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevon Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200

by Misfit74 on May 23, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turner can't catch

and isn’t the rusher Gore is. He also looked pretty worked over by the end of last season.

by John Morgan on May 23, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about Lynch?

Is it talent-based or character-based? Even if he’s got serious issues, I still think he’s a terrific talent as a complete back.

by SeaTownBlueDevil on May 23, 2009 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can see why, but

I would take Stewart over Gore, and Lynch is close but he doesn’t pass the mental-makeup I’d want. I can see how to punch holes in the rest of them in support of JMs list. Some are closer than others, but overall I tend to agree. Some are older and breaking down, others greatly overrated (Grant, Forte), and Slaton lacks ideal size. Some can’t catch a beach-ball. Gore is a great pass-catcher. I think Stewart can be, and is much younger with far less miles on him.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevon Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200

by Misfit74 on May 23, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why not Portis?

He can block, receive, and rush. Had a string of games with 120+ rushing yards, looked like a potential MVP contender.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on May 23, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Age and durability would be my guess?

2010 Seahawks Mock: 1A: Eric Berry S, 1B: Ndamukong Suh DT, 2: Charles Brown OT, 4:Zac Robinson QB, 5: Stafon Johnson RB 6: Will Tukuafu DE, 7: Kerry Meier WR
Also acceptable, trade for Patrick Chung and draft Ed Wang so everyone can Wang Chung tonight.

by LantermanC on May 24, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes. It's fairly clear that Portis is breaking down.

He’s not that old, but lots of miles and seemingly always hurt. I don’t see that many productive years and certainly not full-seasons ahead of him the way he’s going.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevon Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200

by Misfit74 on May 24, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ryan Grant?

I don’t think Gore’s A+ either, but jeeze, that’s harsh.

by jacobstevens on May 26, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+ 1

Frank Gore is way better than Ryan Grant!

by CardsDefense on May 26, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Our RB situation isn't very good

I don’t like Jones, but I do like Duckett. He was great last year for us in the short yardage category. I wish we had someone else besides Jones to complement him though.

by TheSteelersRuinedMyBirthday on May 22, 2009 10:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I think you are severely overrating Julius Jones

I can’t think of too many worse RB situations than Seattle’s, to be honest.

by Brendan Scolari on Jun 8, 2009 11:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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