Housh: A Psychic or Loudmouth?
It looks like TJ Houshmandzadeh is coming out with some biiiiig talk regarding our hopefully-soon-to-be-favorite passing tandem. (NOTE: As much as I hate linking you all to any article written by Mike Florio and his inherent bias against the Hawks, at least it's a conversation starter.)
Along with Nate Burleson and Darryl Tapp's high hopes (though a little less public), what do you think about the Hawks having this much swagger even before the first whistle of training camp?
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Haha, awesome.
"I just want to let everyone know that Matt Hasselbeck and I will be leading the Seahawks to the playoffs this season," Houshmandzadeh proclaims. "And we’ll be going to the Pro Bowl as a tandem. We’re both going to have top five seasons: He’ll have a top five quarterback season, and I’ll have a top five receiving season. I’ll put up stats I’ve never had before yardswise because they’re allowing me to be a complete receiver."
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 26, 2009 10:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think every team goes into the season
thinking they have a good shot at the playoffs, every year. Bad teams believe in themselves and don’t know their bad, until the season starts and it dawns on them.
by jacobstevens on Jun 26, 2009 10:47 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Even the Lions feel like they have a shot at the playoffs.
Even if they don’t really believe it. If they didn’t, it would be hard to stay motivated.
by LantermanC on Jun 26, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jon Kitna:
“We’re going to win 10 games”
::Proceeds to go 0-16::
Hey, at least they were 4-0 when it counted.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 26, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kitna made that statement in 2007
When the Lions won 7 games.
by Ezzra on Jun 26, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the fact check
I felt like it was a season off, but I didn’t want to disturb the Google gods to unearth that information.
by PRIDEin253 on Jun 26, 2009 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only remember because of the 6-2 Lions start in '07
Which in itself still blows my mind.
by Ezzra on Jun 26, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In 2008
I don’t think he made a win prediction, but I think he still garunteed the playoffs.
by Mind of no mind on Jun 26, 2009 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he repeated the prediction again for 2008.
Or maybe Mind of no mind is right and it was a postseason guarantee.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 27, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still holding out for Tatupu's shutouts.
by John Morgan on Jun 26, 2009 11:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
5 shutouts - 4 wins
What’s the difference?
by ninjasocks on Jun 26, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like it. One bit.
Publicly setting a high bar has few (if any) benefits. Why not be publicly modest and then blow everyone’s expectations out of the water?
OF ALL PEOPLE, Housh should know that #1s get most of the pressure and thus create opportunity for other receiving targets. I wouldn’t be shocked if he only caught 60-65 passes this year and Branch/Carlson/Butler caught more than expected.
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
by Nick Andron on Jun 26, 2009 11:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Is he the anointed #1 this year? Wont he still be the possession #2, with Branch at 1?
'Cause this is thriller, thriller night
And no one's gonna save you from the beast about to strike
You know it's thriller, thriller night
You're fighting for life inside a killer, thriller tonight
by blackvanilla on Jun 26, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think by #1 he means #1 target.
If you’re a defensive back which receiver are you going to be keying on when you play against the Seahawks? I think that receiver will be Housh and not Branch. Even if Branch is the #1 from the offensive perspective of the Hawks (and I’m not sure that’s the case).
by Snuffleupagus on Jun 26, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant both
He’ll be the #1 receiver on the depth chart and also (in my opinion) the #1 threat on our team.
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
by Nick Andron on Jun 26, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's a fan perspective
publicly being modest ‘and then blowing everyone’s expectations out of the water’ makes us feel good as fans. We can go to forums and say ‘ha, you counted us out and you were wrong.’ But the players want to go into the season feeling confident.
It’s an attitude that I like to see in top players on the Hawks. I like this from Housh because he showing confidence in himself, his QB and his team and he’s not doing it in a rude way or by disparaging other players.
Publicly setting a low bar has zero benefits to the players. Publicly setting a high bar is part of the personality of many great NFL players.
by Snuffleupagus on Jun 26, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
From either perspective; it doesn't matter
John made a great argument on a different topic that experience and past successes inspire confidence; without those two key components, it’s arrogance.
Simple truths:
- Housh has not caught one pass from Matt Hasslebeck.
- Matt Hasslebeck has a higher than normal chance (due to age and back problems) to be on the receiving end of a season (or worse, career) ending injury
- Housh is now the big cheese (as opposed to being a career #2), and may get completely bottled up all season
In my opinion, his statements are arrogant and completely unfounded. If he wants to make these claims in the locker room and inspire confidence in that way, more power to him. But proclaiming those things to the world is just silly.
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
by Nick Andron on Jun 26, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Minor quibble
I would argue that Housh was, in fact, a #1 receiver in Cincy the last couple of years. Don’t assume that just because Chad Johnson had the biggest mouth meant that he was the only #1 receiver. If (HUGE if) Hasselbeck is healthy, Branch and Housh should enjoy similar levels of production.
That being said, the statements themselves are stupid to air publicly. These guarantees almost never work, usually resulting in ridicule instead. You would think that a guy who watched the aforementioned weirdness of Ocho Cinco the last couple of years would have learned that.
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture
by Eegah on Jun 29, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it rubbed off on him.
We may have Ocho Quattro on our hands.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 29, 2009 8:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
rofl i hope not!
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
by Nick Andron on Jun 30, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Appropriate, since Pride is straightedge.
rimshot
by thebyron on Jun 30, 2009 8:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well said
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
by Nick Andron on Jun 30, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yo pride, you got the straightedge?
who are you?
by cro-mag! on Jun 26, 2009 11:44 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw that
You have a cro-mag fan in me, brother.
by boytruck on Jun 26, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Edge since 05/12/02
and life is good. I’m a UW student living in the UWs only dry fraternity and I’m originally from Tacoma. I’ve been wondering for a while if there were any other straight edge Hawk fans out there haha.
by PRIDEin253 on Jun 26, 2009 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not straight edge
but I’m boring like a straight edge kid. Maybe we’ll cross paths sometime…
by boytruck on Jun 26, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm..
Not sure I like that boring comment. In fact I don’t like it at all.
by PRIDEin253 on Jun 26, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you know any of those viaduct kids from tacoma?
i live up on 15th, we should carpool to shows.
by cro-mag! on Jun 28, 2009 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been out of the Tacoma scene for a while
Are you from there? How old are you? Oh, and where on 15th?
by PRIDEin253 on Jun 30, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW
Houshmandzadeh’s prognostication has better chances of being realized than Burleson’s and Tapp’s, whose seemed rather tongue in cheek.
by jacobstevens on Jun 26, 2009 1:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
housh has always been a talker
what does everyone I expect him to say. “Matt’s back is probably toast, if our offensive line can keep him upright I’ll probably catch 60 balls but who knows. I’m not expecting to do much”.
by Hancock.Brett on Jun 26, 2009 2:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Of course not
The other end of the spectrum being: “we’re both going to the pro bowl”.
It just came off as a bit arrogant, that’s all.
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
by Nick Andron on Jun 26, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like the Tapp/Burly talks.
Both players made their proclamations via Twitter.
Burleson tweeted first:
Finished my first week of workouts in Az. Twice a day, 5 days a week for 4 weeks… You do the math! For the slow folk..it equals 15 TD’s
Then Tapp fired back:
well I am gonna train in va. 4 weeks 2 and a half times a day. And for you slow that means 12 sacks
I have no problem with them one-upping each other in workouts and talking about it. And I have no problem with Housh talking either. They should have a lot of hope and confidence right now.
by cashless on Jun 26, 2009 3:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think both Housh and Burleson will back up their talk
Twitter is a plague, it just encourages people to mouth off randomly. Like rich athletes need more of that.
But as for Housh… He could end up in the pro bowl for a change. After 90+ receptions three years in a row he could have 100 this year with Matt. Still, he should have the class to keep his mouth shut.
I would bet that Housh and Burleson end the year as the Seahawks #1 and #2 receivers, even if Branch gets more snaps early in the season (before he goes down with his annual injury).
But let’s get real, Tapp is not going to get 12 sacks unless he grows three more inches to play with more leverage and stop getting swallowed up by all those OTs who eat his lunch on Sundays.
by Stevo's on Jun 27, 2009 9:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I disagree with all of that.
Housh could be that great, but I doubt our offense throws the ball like that.
Burleson sounds like he’s working like a demon, that’s what I take out of it. 15 TDs is a huge stretch though.
Tapp has been pretty damn good for his size at NOT getting swallowed up by OTs, but his comment was obviously in fun response to Burleson.
by cashless on Jun 27, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, yeah they were just having fun...
And I would agree that Housh may catch fewer passes than he did as a Bengal… and yet he could be big a part of producing more wins than he could for the Bengals. I just think he’s in a great position to become Hass’ go-to guy.
As for Tapp, he’s made a big splash in a handful of games, be then gone for long stretches where he was handled by very average OTs. I like his high motor and his attitude, I just think he is a tad short to succeed at DE because of the huge size of NFL OTs these days. I wish I could take Tapp’s energy and skills and put them in Lawrence Jackson’s body. Then you would have… well, I guess we would have another Pat Kerney.
by Stevo's on Jun 27, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Twitter is a plague, it just encourages people to mouth off randomly."
Unlike blogs.
by Dukeshire on Jun 28, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I set my mouthing off by lunar cycles.
by John Morgan on Jun 28, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Must . . . resist . . . urge . . . to . . . make . . . lady . . . joke
because 28-day cycles . . .
by ninjasocks on Jun 28, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Class?? He used to be a Bengal. The only class they know is Spousal Abuse Class
Or maybe anger management, or how bout "Dude you’re in the NFL and you (site decorum) it up!!
aka Optimist Prime 09...........9ers (site decorum)
by rlott#42 on Jun 29, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Burleson was being serious.
It sounds as if he was just joshing around and that it was taken a little out of context and people think he’s being serious. I know Tapp was definitely kidding around, considering his response was to make a prediction nearly word for word what Burleson said.
Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.
by Carl Shinyama on Jun 27, 2009 1:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think something was summed up rather well about Florio
right here:
http://davekriegsstrikebeard.blogspot.com/2009/06/rampant-idiocyignorance-over-on-pro.html
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevon Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer
by Misfit74 on Jun 28, 2009 9:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Waner, Favre, Romo, Ryan, Brees
How many QB’s do I need to name to disprove this blasphemy?? Let’s see Fitzgerald, Boldin, Jennings, Driver?, White, and Colston. Housh better lace those cleets up tight he isn’t in the AFC anymore!!
aka Optimist Prime 09...........9ers (site decorum)
by rlott#42 on Jun 29, 2009 4:24 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I didn't understand any of this.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 29, 2009 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's trying to list players who will finish ahead of Matt and Housh
…keeping them out of the top 5, but I can’t be sure.
by thebyron on Jun 29, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I sure believe that Waner will be an excellent quarterback next season.
Housh better watch those cleets. Watch ’em good.
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture
by Eegah on Jun 29, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
Because he’s leaving the pillow factory they call the AFC North for the murderer’s row known as the NFC West.
I imagine he has trouble sleeping at night thinking about playing the Rams twice a year.
by PRIDEin253 on Jun 30, 2009 12:11 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hahahahaha.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 30, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if only we got to play the Steelers and Ravens cake defenses four times a year
we’d be like 20-0 every year
by B.B.Finnegan on Jun 30, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we need to stop responding to rlott, and hope he'll stop commenting,
or at least stop making dumb comments.
I can’t understand why’d he try to disprove that our QB and WRs are top 5 though, since usually when you try and disprove something, it’s because someone made an argument the other way.
by LantermanC on Jun 30, 2009 8:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, that makes sense now.
Though I entirely disagree with some of the names he mentioned.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 30, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same
I honestly don’t think that Matt/Housh will be a top 5 duo in the league, but I could see a top 10 duo.
My projected top 5:
Brady/Moss
Brees/Colston (assuming Colston goes back to his 06/07 numbers)
Warner/Fitzgerald
Manning/Wayne
Palmer/Ochocinco
The last one is a stretch, but I think Cinci’s offense will be back with a vengeance this year.
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
by Nick Andron on Jun 30, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh. NFC only.
In that case yeah, I think Hass and Housh will crack the top 5.
1. Brees/Colston
2. Warner/Fitz
3. Rodgers/Jennings
4. Hass/Housh
5. Romo/Williams
(Gap between 2 and 3 will be huge)
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
by Nick Andron on Jun 30, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh, good call.
This duo would likely vie for #3 w/ Rodgers/Jennings (and would likely win)
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
by Nick Andron on Jul 1, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shaun Hill/Josh Morgan
"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture
by Eegah on Jun 30, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alex Smith/Michael Crabtree
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 30, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You really think they'll be in the top 5 in the NFC?
Don’t rookies (even those that end up being legendary) only typically put up 400-500 yards in their rookie season?
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
by Nick Andron on Jul 1, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't even expect Alex Smith to be starting.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 1, 2009 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nate Davis/Vernon Davis!
The Brothers Davis
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jun 30, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I vote loudmouth
Seahawks have to adapt to a lot of change like the niners and rams. Though their O has some vets which will make it easier on the transition, but nevertheless Mora is the coach, Holmgren is gone and the O is going to a zone blocking scheme. A lot of changes to predict playoffs. I think Brees and Colston, Jennings and Rogers, Warner and both of his wideouts, McNabb, and Romo will keep one of the two (Housh and Hasslebeck) out of the Pro Bowl. The playoffs will me a huge toss-up between the niners, Seagirls, and Cards. No Seagirls is not a typo……………GO NINERS!!
by Real Deal P Will on Jul 6, 2009 8:38 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ok
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Jul 6, 2009 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"No Seagirls is not a typo"
Actually, it could be.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
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