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Enter Aaron Curry

How does an NFL Combine performance vault a sure top ten pick to becoming the consensus best prospect of the draft? By making scouts drool. I run a yearly feature discussing the picks that benefit Seattle by bombing the Combine and lowering their stock and the picks that ace the combine and solidify their greatness. Before this last draft, I always rooted for exceptional talents with middling tools to bomb the Combine and players with great tools but middling production to stand out. I was especially excited when John Carlson flopped.

This was the first season I could hope a player with great production and great tools would stand among his peers and stand out. The inverse of the good player undervalued for the wrong reasons, Seattle had a shot at the great player that would become even better in the pros. Then Aaron Curry took the field on February 23, 2009.

Don't read any further. Watch that. It's linebacker porn. It's scouting porn. It's better. It's football art.

I was so slow to the Curry bandwagon. I initially discounted Seattle selecting him because it had its linebackers. It had three great to elite linebackers and hadn't done a thing with them. There were quarterbacks to be had. And defensive ends! And offensive tackles! And diva wide receivers! If somehow Seattle cleared room for Curry, would it really reinvent this defense?

The answer then and the answer now is no. Curry will not reinvent Seattle's defense and Seattle did not approach the offseason like he would. He is the best pure talent at linebacker I've ever seen. It's all there in his Combine footage: the projectable build, the quick feet, the smoothness, the snap out of his breaks, the 25 bench reps he willed from his long arms, the so regular it looks like dancing slide step, the backpedal, the scream of anguish when he drops the interception. Size. Strength. Speed. Technique. Desire.

Until now I've stoked the hype but never fed it.

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Today, the Hype lives.

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Still not especially excited about using our only top 5 pick in many years on a position of strength.

Especially after getting rid of an arguably better player.

But that video was indeed NFL porn, NSFW.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 15, 2009 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Though I am amped to see what he can do tonight.

If he makes Marcus McNeill look like that poor sap in the screenshots, I’m a believer.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 15, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was good to trade Peterson

While his trade value was still high. And last season he was absolutely schooled in coverage on several occasions. In turn you get some good DT depth in Redding.

I hated this pick at first. I was itching to get Crabtree but look how he’s been acting just because he dropped to 10th.

Now thinking about it we’ve got probably the most complete player in the draft to fall to us and I’m totally psyched.

"And Joe for Matt Hughes, dislike may not be a strong enough adjective!" - Mike Goldberg

by SSreporters on Aug 15, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I still don't think Curry is exceptional aside from his measurables.

And I’d still rather have a premier pass-rusher in Julian over DT depth with inury issues, as optimistic as I am about Redding.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 15, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except Hill will prove to be a premier pass rusher.

And we will have fixed our LB coverage issue with Curry.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 15, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Will?

He already has. :)

Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.

by Carl Shinyama on Aug 15, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

In all fairness,

I think one can only argue Peterson is better because Curry hasn’t played an NFL game yet. It may prove to be true, but it’s all conjecture now.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 15, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

No.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 15, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

A supreme talent which you can't really justify that we needed.

At a non-premium position.

Though I suppose we’re better off not arguing about this, this is a place for Seahawks discussion, and rational ones.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 15, 2009 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not BobbyK.

And at least that was widely recognized as a horrible move.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 15, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

The 2008 Julian Peterson...

…was not a better player. As a rookie, this guy will show more awareness and be more assignment correct, at a minimum. And he’ll stack and shed at a different level entirely.

What remains to be seen is whether he has, or will develop, that freakish flexibility to rush the passer that JP had.

by Hawkdawg on Aug 15, 2009 1:20 PM PDT reply actions  

strength

In principle yes it was a strength, but as others have said I saw chinks in the armor several times with JP, and he’s on the tail end of his career. We also need a big LB crew to offset the runs through the defense.

by paul2 on Aug 15, 2009 1:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Also he's in Detroit

Where players go to destroy their own careers.

It might be wrong but I will explode when Curry smashes Mo Morris in the backfield for a 5 yard loss.

"And Joe for Matt Hughes, dislike may not be a strong enough adjective!" - Mike Goldberg

by SSreporters on Aug 15, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

MoMo

True… But I wish him success, he was a hard-workin’ back, and now has a chance…. if he ever sees a hole open.

by paul2 on Aug 15, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I won't care

By then Hass will have thrown a beautiful ball to Housh on a crossing pattern for a 46 yard gain.

Beverly Hills 90210.......Denver Broncos 7.

by SSreporters on Aug 15, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

BrianL work your magic!

I just want Russell to have all of his gaffes happen in the preseason so he can maximize his reputation as a heat-seeking missile sex machine that will tackle oxygen and flatten grass every week.

"And Joe for Matt Hughes, dislike may not be a strong enough adjective!" - Mike Goldberg

by SSreporters on Aug 15, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awww. They're always so cute as babies.

"Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery?" - Dr. Venture

by Eegah on Aug 15, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a Brandon Mebane one just waiting to be unleashed

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 15, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

very witty

reminds me of the (now defunct?) FG text one liners at bottom of page, .. such as:
 SA: “Nice tackle!” Turf: “…”

by paul2 on Aug 15, 2009 1:34 PM PDT reply actions  

The string of Josh Brown taglines

After we won 24-22 over the Rams was fantastic.

Breaking news: Josh Brown stops runaway freight train!

How times have changed.

"And Joe for Matt Hughes, dislike may not be a strong enough adjective!" - Mike Goldberg

by SSreporters on Aug 15, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's been so long

That it feels like we skipped a season

The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.

by Nick Andron on Aug 15, 2009 1:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

You too, huh?

God, this has been the longest offseason ever. Ever.

Oh, for as much as I love hearing and reading about , and awaiting to see Swift Justice play today, the players that I am looking forward to seeing play more than I am with Swift Justice are:White Jesus (he’s been dominating camp talk), Nate Burleson, Justin Forsett, Cory Redding, and TJ Houshmandzadeh.

Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.

by Carl Shinyama on Aug 15, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know,

the offseason between 07-08 was twice as excruciating as this one for me, mainly because we were competitive, and what seemed like a hair away from going to back to the SB.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 15, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps, but without an appearance in the playoffs, it just felt that much longer for me.

It felt a lot like the offseason did for me in 2003. The team sucked, but there was a reason for optimism heading into the next season, though, the team is not nearly as young as it was then, and the main issue was not injuries.

Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.

by Carl Shinyama on Aug 15, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Justin Forsett"

USE THE FORSE!!

Glenn Beck likes argument, but has a deap-seated hatred for logic.

by Cheddar28 on Aug 15, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I daresay I am looking forward to watching Mr. Curry play today.

Ah who am I kidding? WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

by BrianL on Aug 15, 2009 1:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Still don't like the Curry pick, but we'll see

I was a big fan of Sanchez and Crabtree, and I think we’re likely headed for a Tebow-sized black hole at QB for the next 5 years.

Course, if Seattle drafts Bradford/McCoy next year and Sanchez/Crabtree savagely flop, well, lets just say I’d love to be wrong.

Even though I hated the pick, I won’t let that stop me from enjoying what should be an excellent career from Mr. 59. Starting tonight. I’m looking forward to it.

by kearly on Aug 15, 2009 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Sanchez had only 1 year at QB at USC

Bradford will have 3 and McCoy will have 4. There’s other stuff too.

by ninjasocks on Aug 15, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

McCoy plays out of shotgun all the time, and furthermore he's from Texas, they are notorious for churning out busts all the time.

That should automatically make you wary. Bradford has been surrounded be elite players who are all highly rated pro prospects his entire tenure while his opponents haven’t.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 15, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sanchez will be a bust

I guarantee it.

"And Joe for Matt Hughes, dislike may not be a strong enough adjective!" - Mike Goldberg

by SSreporters on Aug 15, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sanchez will succeed

I guarantee it :)

I wanted Sanchez mostly because I didn’t think we would have a chance at Bradford/ McCoy but with Ruskells draft dealings we ended up in a good position to get one of those two.

I think Bradford will be the best of the three.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 15, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm always skeptical

Of Big XII QBs, especially the recent group.

Sanchez won’t succeed. Of the few times he’s been tested (Oregon State) he’s struggled and subsequently lost the OSU game.

Beverly Hills 90210.......Denver Broncos 7.

by SSreporters on Aug 15, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I give no love to the Big Ten

How they manage to blow it in the BCS time and time again is beyond me. It’s been a long time since the days of Ohio State’s championship team.

Beverly Hills 90210.......Denver Broncos 7.

by SSreporters on Aug 15, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sending the hospital bill your way

thanks for the seizure, you and Mary Hart should go into business together.

by shams on Aug 15, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's not bad

But Tebow in that GIF would be so much more right.

by ninjasocks on Aug 15, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone make it so!

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 15, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Someone make it so!

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 15, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wins are not a QB stat.

It isn’t his fault USC’s D forgot that they were USC’s D and let Oregon State’s offensive line blow them off the ball about 5 yards each snap giving ample room to that Jacizz Rodgers guy.

And it’s not like he’s missing anything from the physical tools department. The only concern with him was how few games he’s played. If he duplicated a similar season he would have likely been a top 5 pick in the next draft.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 15, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

When OSU tore USC apart for 1 half

Sanchez was 2-7 for 32 yards and a sack.

His lowest passing efficiency for the season was 73.4 against Arizona, the team that was closest to beating them without actually beating them. He only averaged 6 yards per pass completion.

He was the beneficiary of a weakened Pac-10 headlined by Washington and Washington State and tore apart weak defenses.

Beverly Hills 90210.......Denver Broncos 7.

by SSreporters on Aug 15, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

True

But it’s not Matt Leinart’s fault he played in a weak conference either. Look how that turned out. And he’s benched in the weakest division in football.

Beverly Hills 90210.......Denver Broncos 7.

by SSreporters on Aug 15, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

He got hurt and Warner played out his mind.

I don’t think Leinart is done yet.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 15, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

That season when they switched off

I remember hoping for Warner when they played the Hawks because he was so much more sackable.

I think I just pooped your pants...

by FizzleDrip on Aug 15, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hell, he fell down on his own

And strained a hammy! Hard to see Warner, at “85%” according to himself, making it another full season.

by shams on Aug 15, 2009 3:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bradford. Is. God.

He will be the greatest Seahawks quarterback ever.

Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.

by Carl Shinyama on Aug 15, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Overrated.

He’s not going to throw for 60 TDs or even anywhere near that without being surrounded by all the pro-talent he was last year.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 15, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Other than Jaquin Iglesias, Duke Robinson, and Phil Loadholt, who did he lose?

He plays in a system that tailors plays to his strength: Ball distribution. That offense is still loaded. He may not throw up 60 TD’s, but he should at least throw at least 40.

He’s still got DeMarco Murray, Chris Brown, Jermain Gresham, Manuel Johnson, Ryan Johnson, and Trent Williams he could have gone in the first round had he declared this past offseason). That offense is returning 9 starters, and it’s still is packed.

Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.

by Carl Shinyama on Aug 15, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know it's still loaded,

but losing two excellent players from the nation’s best offensive line is not going to help things, and it still proves my point that his team is stacked and he won’t fare as lucky in the pros.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 15, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, their best offensive lineman is still there when he could have gone pro.

I really don’t expect there to be much of a dropoff, if at all.

There are still 4 players besides Bradford who are likely to be drafted, other than the receivers that I mentioned. Neither of them have Iglesias ability to separate, but they do have very dependable hands.

I disagree. Playing with surrounding pro-caliber talent in college doesn’t necessarily make him any less pro-ready as a player.

Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.

by Carl Shinyama on Aug 15, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

No it doesn't.

It just makes it harder to evaluate him for the NFL. A QB who succeeds with no talent around him is clearly carrying the team, a QB who succeeds with loads of talent may simply be living off the talent around him (or he may actually be that good, it’s hard to know).

by Fear on Aug 15, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think it would be that hard to really evaluate him, given the amount of extensive footage on him.

Plus, it’s not as if he hasn’t faced near-pro level competition, either.

Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.

by Carl Shinyama on Aug 15, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

His drives in the preseason opener yesterday

seemed pretty solid. ’Specially that opening play deep in Jets territory!

Glenn Beck likes argument, but has a deap-seated hatred for logic.

by Cheddar28 on Aug 15, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, Matt Stafford is beasting right now.

And Keary Colbert looks awful.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 15, 2009 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

In ex-Seahawk news...

Kerry Colbert sure looks good for the Lions. Two targets. Two drops. The second one drew boos from the hundreds at Ford Field.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 15, 2009 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

Correction,

that’s 3 drops. Each one has hit him square in the hands.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 15, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's going to get cut by halftime.

6 targets, 1 catch, 4 drops.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 15, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even better.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 15, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perfect

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 15, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was part of a last minute deal to save NFL-N from being removed

You should also get ESPN U (channel 400) if you have Comcast’s Digital Preferred.

Beverly Hills 90210.......Denver Broncos 7.

by SSreporters on Aug 15, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do you know when it actually happened?

I love how comcast doesn’t update me anymore.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 15, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

August 1st I think

If you fork over $6 (or something like that) you’ll get the new Red Zone Channel which features live look-ins whenever a team is inside the 20. They also got other features besides that too involving the live look-ins.

Beverly Hills 90210.......Denver Broncos 7.

by SSreporters on Aug 15, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I just found the HD channel!

Today has been a good day.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 15, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I punch a whole in the ceiling during that game.

And I was in a rental. Now I own my home – I don’t think I should watch that game.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 15, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apropos of nothing,

Matt Ryan’s composure reminds me of Troy Aikman.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 15, 2009 2:41 PM PDT reply actions  

What a throw by Stafford.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 15, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions  

That was nice

Got drilled too

I think I just pooped your pants...

by FizzleDrip on Aug 15, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yawn...

I love him.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 15, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know we need to keep this on topic.

But thats just ridiculous.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 15, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

He seizes moments unlike any other athlete I've seen n my lifetime.

(no disrespect to Jordan, Montana, et all)

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 15, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes. As much respect and admiration for Tiger,

I have almost that little for Mickelson. He’s a nice guy and all, but he puts himself in positions, at the most crucial times, that have excuses for failure built it. (His current family’s health issues not with standing.)

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 15, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's flashy, there's no question.

But how many putts inside 4’ have we seen him blow by the cup over the years? More that he should, that’s for sure.

p.s. – I’d love to be able to flop a ball backwards over my head. Crazy

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 15, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is NFL Network actually going to show the game?

They blacked out the Lions game, and I’ve heard they are doing the same for Seattle.

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Aug 15, 2009 3:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Ugh. I have FSN-NW, but no local stations.

Found lions and falcons on justin tv though, seattle should be on later. just gonna be uncomfortable in front of the computer

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Aug 15, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you need a place to watch the game

and don’t mind it not being that big, adthe.net will have an easy to use link to the Justin.tv stream. Just a head’s up.

by Trepidation on Aug 15, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks dude.

I’ve got chicago and buffalo now. Like duke said, it must have been a regional thing because I’m so close to atlanta.

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Aug 15, 2009 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

SC

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Aug 15, 2009 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe because Atlanta is market.

It’s not on local network?

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 15, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you gotten the other NFL Network games this week?

If this is the only one blacked out, I think it’s a safe bet it’s because Atlanta is your local market. Can’t imagine any other reason.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 15, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I've gotten all of them.

Ah well. I’m crossing my fingers for 7 pm PT tonight. Makes sense, Atlanta being the local market, it’s not too far from here.

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Aug 15, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sure you'll be fine.

It’s an awful feeling though until you see it come on.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 15, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was Atlanta vs Detroit

That could explain the blackout for you.

NEEDS MORE FREEDOM!

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 15, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where in SC?

Glenn Beck likes argument, but has a deap-seated hatred for logic.

by Cheddar28 on Aug 16, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Columbia

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Aug 17, 2009 5:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ah ok I went to Furman Univ. over in Greenville

Glenn Beck likes argument, but has a deap-seated hatred for logic.

by Cheddar28 on Aug 17, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey Billy McMuffin is with Detroit?

The Lions vs. Redskins could easily be Former Seahawks vs. Former Seahawks.

Beverly Hills 90210.......Denver Broncos 7.

by SSreporters on Aug 15, 2009 3:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah I had forgotten Hacks signed with them.

He looked good, as usual. Too bad he’ll soon be injured. Wish he was more durable…and still a Seahawk.

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Aug 15, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Had no idea he signed with them.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 15, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why does this guy, doing the color for the Bear-Bills game,

continue to call it “nebulous momentum”? It’s starting to piss me off.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 15, 2009 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Steve Tasker

It’s Ray Bentley and Steve Tasker on commentary duty.

Beverly Hills 90210.......Denver Broncos 7.

by SSreporters on Aug 15, 2009 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's right, Tasker.

Why? Did he over hear a producer use it before the game?

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 15, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe

So he could sound smart.

54 minutes until we’re back in action.

Beverly Hills 90210.......Denver Broncos 7.

by SSreporters on Aug 15, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know, I just hate that shit.

If you’re able to define what you’re seeing as momentum, it’s no longer nebulous. Anyway, moving on.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 15, 2009 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nice one, Cutler.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 15, 2009 6:14 PM PDT reply actions  

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