Seattle signs Edge, according to PFT.com

by jteckmann on Aug 24, 2009 2:41 PM PDT Comment 67 comments

Got to say that if this is true, IMO it's a head scratcher. Mainly because of what it means for the bottom of the depth chart - makes it a lot harder for Forsett to stick again. But James & Jones seem to be the same RB to me, at this point of their respective careers. So I don't see an upgrade, or an effective platoon. Unless this is a clear indication they think duckett won't cut it as anything more than a short-yardage guy.

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Yuck.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevon Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Aug 24, 2009 2:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Uh.

by BrianL on Aug 24, 2009 2:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Weird.

by JamesMurphy on Aug 24, 2009 2:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Woo!

I’d rather have Warrick Dunn…But it’s Edgerrin fucking James!

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 24, 2009 2:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

...For cereal?

Glenn Beck likes argument, but has a deap-seated hatred for logic.

by Cheddar28 on Aug 24, 2009 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm gearing up for my Madden championship run.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 24, 2009 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

what

We have a decent, big 3rd down back in Duckett, we have our renaissance guy in JJ, we have our quick guy. Why do we need an 11th year man who is probably worse then Duckett?

by paul2 on Aug 24, 2009 2:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Hall of Fame credentials!

Can block and receive to make up for subpar rushing skills!

…Kind of sounds like Julius Jones.

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Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 24, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

inside info on the cardinals can be the only explanation of his worth...

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevon Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Aug 24, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

James is probably still a better short yardage back than Duckett

almost certainly.

While both are average at best, I don’t see James as the same as Juice Jones. Pretty different runners.

Not that I’m thrilled with the move, I’m not sure what to think. I dunno if there’s actual value here. I wonder if it means Duckett has to prove himself to stay (might be a try-out and James might not stick, too).

by jacobstevens on Aug 24, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

James is a better receiver out of the backfield than Duckett

I’ll grant him that.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevon Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Aug 24, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Better short yardage

James never stops moving his legs.

by jacobstevens on Aug 24, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

This is true.

If he replaces duckett I guess… No… Not happy.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 24, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And probably a better between-the-tackles runner than Forsett.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevon Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Aug 24, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dunno if I'd go that far

but haven’t really looked at James in a while. Better pass blocker. Better short yardage. Than Duckett or Forsett. Better receiver than Duckett.

by jacobstevens on Aug 24, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pass-pro pass-pro pass-pro

He catches the ball well and should be a good fit for ZBS.

by Hawkhammer19 on Aug 24, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

And what of Forsett?

I just drafted him!

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevon Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Aug 24, 2009 2:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

John I moved this to the FP.

Is pro football talk normally a reliable source?

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by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 24, 2009 2:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

LOL.

PFT is ?able about some things, but terms of a deal seem to validate this report.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevon Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Aug 24, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

When they actually report something as fact, usually.

Their speculation things are almost always false, though.

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Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 24, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevon Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Aug 24, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok thats what I thought.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 24, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

PFT

They have their moments (both ways) – so I’m not convinced until Mort or Clayton say so…

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."

- David Foster Wallace R.I.P.

by phil26687 on Aug 24, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mort can't be trusted, IMO.

Clayton is still my hero, though.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevon Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Aug 24, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

I meant Schefter, but typed Mort – go figure.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."

- David Foster Wallace R.I.P.

by phil26687 on Aug 24, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I typically wait for confirmation from either Sando or Eric Williams.

by BrianL on Aug 24, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ya if this isn't true John is going to have my head!

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by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 24, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Although according to O'Neil

Mora will have a chat with the media a little later, so we should know one way or another soon.

by BrianL on Aug 24, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not a fan,

but Arizona seems to be a crappy place for anyone to run?

I’d rather sign an OL guy if a decent one is available still…

by LantermanC on Aug 24, 2009 2:50 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

If true

I think this bodes poorly for Duckett – Although maybe mora goes to bat for him… interesting, puzzling, and just generally weird news.

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."

- David Foster Wallace R.I.P.

by phil26687 on Aug 24, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't think this has any implication on Duckett.

He’s the Knapp guy who’s proven himself in the system and did well last season.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 24, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I dunno

did you listen to the Mora interview on KJR this morning? Duckett isn’t necessarily safe. Mora said the Denver game exposed some things with him. They did want to use him for more than just short yardage, but he’s got to play better. He’s not automatically in.

by jacobstevens on Aug 24, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd have to imagine Jones and Forsett would be more concerned over this.

by BrianL on Aug 24, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Umm, going to wait and here what John has to say about this.

by MFAN on Aug 24, 2009 2:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

I hope he says:

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…well it could work.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevon Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Aug 24, 2009 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

...what the fuck

Edge is so below average.

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by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 24, 2009 2:55 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

So does that make him bottom 5 in the NFC or what?

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 24, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

only as a starter!

by B.B.Finnegan on Aug 24, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Average for a starter, whole pool, or MENSA students?

by BrianL on Aug 24, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not excited about Edge as a RB

One bright side to this is that it might free up Forsett to do more KR/PR. If JForce is the second-string RB, they’re not going to want to risk him in the return game.

Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.

by ninjasocks on Aug 24, 2009 2:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

"Not excited about Edge as a RB"

Would you rather have him at WR or FB or something?

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 24, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Having him as insurance (depth) may free up the coaches a little with Forsett

I just hope that Edge never makes the field.

Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.

by ninjasocks on Aug 24, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Edge wanted to be the feature-back, right?

And he had almost no competition in Arizona for that.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 24, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I don't know what Edge was offered

He wanted to be the man in Arizona and would like to have the carries, but I can’t see him starting ahead of JJ. I’m inclined to think that he’s got the same dreams as Shaun but is a fair bit more pragmatic.

Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.

by ninjasocks on Aug 24, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's true

I’m not terribly excited, but I can’t say it’s not an upgrade. I dunno if he’s a real 1-cut runner for the ZBS either, though. Duckett isn’t, really, either. I can see him getting small chunks of positive yardage on most every carry, but almost never more than 5, and only if the ZBS blocking really improves by the regular season — at best his cut isn’t going to be real fast, and he’ll probably meander into a gap more than slice into it.

by jacobstevens on Aug 24, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not excited about Forsett in the return game.

I prefer Wilson, Butler at least, and could add a few more name. I like a speed and/or moves-demon at that spot. Burly’s v.good, too.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevon Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Aug 24, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mora said that Wilson definitely wouldn't be doing returns

Butler’s probably not going to get many more live looks either.

Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.

by ninjasocks on Aug 24, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Was not expecting this. Jim Mora has a press conference at 3:15 today, hopefully will answer the question.

by Trepidation on Aug 24, 2009 3:03 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

hooray

for non-guaranteed contracts – give him a 2 game audition and waive him if he sucks…

"The truth will set you free. But not until it is finished with you."

- David Foster Wallace R.I.P.

by phil26687 on Aug 24, 2009 3:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

Haha good point

by Hawkhammer19 on Aug 24, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

true

Could just be because JJ is injured and they’ll have some ‘insurance’?

by paul2 on Aug 24, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

oh crap, oh crap, oh crap

If JJ’s injury is serious we could go into the regular season with the least inspiring RB core in the league (Edge and Duckett could a joint knickname of “Statler and Waldorf”).

Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.

by ninjasocks on Aug 24, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

I though we were already the least inspiring?

by B.B.Finnegan on Aug 24, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maybe

Sometimes you hit the bottom of the barrel and you start digging through the wood.

Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.

by ninjasocks on Aug 24, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

jteckmann

Thanks for breaking this. I am pretty sure it’s legit, so I am willing to report it. I moved this off the front page and put up the other post only because news needs to be distributed through Google, Yahoo and CBS.

by John Morgan on Aug 24, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

no prob

Phil & I got it at about the same time. I felt a little skeevy linking to a PFT story, but like was said above , when they’re “reporting” and not the usual rumors or commentary, they’re usually okay.

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by jteckmann on Aug 24, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Edge is BY FAR the best back on your roster.

orange julius could learn a thing or two from this grisly old vet.

by CardsDefense on Aug 24, 2009 3:26 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

You are smoking crack.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevon Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Aug 24, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Either that or being sarcastic.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 24, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

We're just hoping there's more vet than gristle

Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.

by ninjasocks on Aug 24, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

BY FAR the best

by CardsDefense on Aug 26, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

You must be correct...

since you USED CAPS to repeat yourself.

Please, for the LOVE OF GOD, stop suggesting next year's 1st round pick (or picks) be used for Taylor Mays and or a QB of the future. Let's just let the season unfold, people, and evaluate much deeper in the process!!!

by whiskey chainsaw on Aug 30, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

eeeeehhhhh

The Seattle FO has more info than we do about the present ability of our running backs, but….I was hoping for a flyer on an O lineman, or at least an RB not trending downhill. 1 year, 2 million doesn’t sound crippling but every little restriction hurts.

by Will Kier on Aug 24, 2009 6:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs