Matt Hasselbeck Hits Mike Vrabel for Six the Other Way
by John Morgan on Aug 30, 2009 2:17 PM PDT
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It only took two plays for Seattle to put six on the board for Kansas City. Matt Hasselbeck owns the blame.
2. Seattle executed a nice run to the outside left on its first play. John Carlson and Sean Locklear held the short edge on the left and Julius Jones hugged it into the second level. Inside line play stopped the outside rush. Inside linebacker Corey Mays, a depth player fighting to win a starting position in the NFL, tackled Jones after a rush of six.
Let's jump back to just after the snap. When Carlson and Locklear were creating the edge and Jones was just approaching. Steve Vallos snaps and struggles to fight into the second level. He can't angle Mays and isn't strong enough to effectively reach block him. Mays runs past Vallos and towards the left end. He caps Jones' seam and tackles him after six.
1. The interception is simple. Simple enough Hasselbeck should have had no problem avoiding it. Seattle sets trips on the left, wide receiver right, running back left and Hasselbeck in the shotgun. Defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast stays 3-4, but with the outside linebackers pressing the line and the inside linebackers playing over the Seahawks bunch.
Right flanker Deion Branch gets inside position on Brandon Flowers and slants inside. Mike Vrabel motions blitz but drops into a curl zone on the offensive right. He is retreating into Branch's passing lane. Hasselbeck guns the ball over Vrabel; Vrabel tips the ball and redirects it over Branch and to Flowers. Flowers returns it for the score.
As mistakes go, this one won't get Hasselbeck cut. The outcome was much worse than the mistake, but Hasselbeck either didn't see Vrabel or underestimated him.
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This was a fun game to watch.
And as of now, my memory of it is fresh having just re-watched the hi-def version this morning. The play-by-play man was horrific, but at least I could make out the numbers on the jerseys. The local broacast surely needs to get better come reg. season.
All that aside, my memory won’t be fresh that long and I’d like to request the approx game time for plays you reconstruct and analyze if not too much of a burden. (2:35), etc. That way, we can follow along w/ the film.
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevan Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer
by Misfit74 on Aug 30, 2009 2:34 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hasselbeck
Is an overrated player and is past his prime it will be more exposed this season I hope we get a top notch QB in the next draft.
by A'Seahawks_Warriors on Aug 30, 2009 3:41 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ESPN forums
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Thatta way.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
by Wayward Llama on Aug 30, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you serious?
Ridiculous notion.
by ASeahawkfan on Aug 30, 2009 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
QB is different than most other positions
A good QB in his early 30’s is just coming into his prime, not past it.
by Mr Fish on Aug 30, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm fairly certain this isn't true for most athletes, quarterbacks included.
by BrianL on Aug 30, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
but “no longer in his prime” means a lot less to a QB than it does to pretty much every other position besides punter and kicker.
by Hawkhammer19 on Aug 30, 2009 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about the argument against the original comment.?
As in, “he’s an overrated player past his prime and I hope we get a top notch QB in the next draft.”
Hmm. Let’s start with the “past his prime” part. How many “top notch” college QB’s even have an NFL prime? What QB is a can’t miss in next year’s draft. If there was one, I’d be cool with taking him and winning right away with a rookie QB.
That of course happens ALL THE TIME in the NFL. Like when Peyton Manning, a “top notch” QB, was a rookie. He led the colts to numerous victories his rookie campaign.
It just isn’t that easy, buddy, and Hass still has some gas in the tank.
Please, for the LOVE OF GOD, stop suggesting next year's 1st round pick (or picks) be used for Taylor Mays and or a QB of the future. Let's just let the season unfold, people, and evaluate much deeper in the process!!!
by whiskey chainsaw on Aug 30, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Colts were 3-13 in Peyton Manning's first season.
Just for your info. I don’t know if you’re being sarcastic or not.
Sam Bradford, future Seattle Seahawk.
by Carl Shinyama on Aug 31, 2009 12:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lies, deceit, and more lies.
What about his preseason play has given you this impression? The guy is smart and has good leadership (see his great hurry-up offense and his ability to look off defenders), a decent to above average arm, pocket confidence, and awesome accuracy (see TD throw to Houshmandzadeh among others). I’m not saying he’s close to Eli Manning or the young Kurt Warner even but… see 2007.
Glenn Beck likes argument, but has a deap-seated hatred for logic.
by Cheddar28 on Aug 30, 2009 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eli Manning?
Really?
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
by Wayward Llama on Aug 31, 2009 3:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed.
Eli is the epitome of an average QB.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Aug 31, 2009 10:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Truth hurts
guys but Hass is like milk that’s been in the frig to long it’s about time to throw him out, at 34 in a month he would be only one of 4 QB’s to win a super bowl at that age or older Len Dawson, Roger Staubach, Bart Starr, and John Elway. Also those players were on powerhouse teams other than maybe Elway who was a very dominate player on a very good team. So if we aren’t going to win it all with this guy I think it’s time we get his replacement in here.
by A'Seahawks_Warriors on Aug 30, 2009 3:59 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That same logic
Applies to all other players. If they are not locks to win the Super Bowl then we should cut the entire team and build from free agency. There are several lesser QB’s than Hass who’s teams won the SB. Hass isn’t going to be the savior, but he showed his trademark great reads and still has zip on his balls. He’s never been great avoiding the sack and he’s still not.
Drafting a replacement QB next year is something I support, but to say Hass is anything but solid is just wrong.
by StonerHawks on Aug 30, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way to give up early buddy
Why watch the season?
You’re already sure Hass sucks and doesn’t have a chance of winning it all. Thanks for enlightening us with your opinion. But forgive me if I decide to watch the season first before I even begin to entertain the notion that Matt is somehow washed up and done.
I’m sure you will be ignoring this entire football season a you have already concluded that our Pro Bowl QB is a aged hack who will never win anything of importance with us. So hopefully we won’t see many of your posts on this board since you have already concluded our season is done and won’t be watching the games.
I’ll thank you for your insight now and wish a happy football season doing whatever you will be doing during football season since you won’t be watching games we’re guaranteed lose. Thank you again. Have a enjoyable 4 months and how many years it takes for us to get a QB you think will give us a good chance of winning.
by ASeahawkfan on Aug 30, 2009 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Soild maybe in his prime no
declining yes you think he can lead us to another 5 division titles ? I don’t doubt you do either it’s time to get someone else same goes for big Walt he’s not going to be a dominate player again. In my opinion Hasselbeck never was I think of him in his prime as very good not great.
by A'Seahawks_Warriors on Aug 30, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So leading us to 4 straight division titles wasn't "great", just "very good"?
Can you explain who you think is a “great” QB and why they are superior to Matt using a argument based on statistics?
Also, you should learn how to use the reply function (we can work on the grammar later).
Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.
by ninjasocks on Aug 30, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Click "+reply"
Not that complicated.
by redwolf75 on Aug 30, 2009 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't encourage him.
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
by Nick Andron on Aug 30, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So let me get this straight...
are we picking a “top notch QB in next year’s draft” or are we picking Big Walt’s replacement.
You don’t get a top notch QB and an elite, start from day 1, perennial All-Pro LT in the same draft very often. Which would you focus on first?
Please, for the LOVE OF GOD, stop suggesting next year's 1st round pick (or picks) be used for Taylor Mays and or a QB of the future. Let's just let the season unfold, people, and evaluate much deeper in the process!!!
by whiskey chainsaw on Aug 30, 2009 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did I say
start from day one ? We have two first round picks if Den sucks bad enough we might be able to get Bradford first with their pick and a LT with our own pick. We also need to replace Russel in the secondary but I think it’s a less pressing need.
by A'Seahawks_Warriors on Aug 30, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you think that we should blow up the team and start rebuilding
Because Matt is Tom Brady and Walt isn’t prime Walt anymore? And you think that we can replace Walt with a better LT than Lock using a mid- to late-1st round pick? Apparently, the Seahawks aren’t worth supporting unless they’re the Patriots.
I think this little tidbit (from a previous FG post) was written for you:
If you need the Seahawks to win the Super Bowl to be happy, find your Yankees cap and your “fast” Willie Parker jersey.
Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.
by ninjasocks on Aug 30, 2009 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lock is not that great
he’s good at RT but LT is the blindside we should look to upgrade. Hell yes I want to see them win the big game I’ve been a fan all my life it’s been a long time coming. We have a chance in the upcoming draft to get a starter at LT and a franchise QB we would be stupid not to address those positions with the upcoming class of QB’s. I think Bradford is better than McCoy but both should be fine NFL players if Hass stays on next season for them to learn under that’s fine or let Seneca keep the seat warm till our rookie is ready.
by A'Seahawks_Warriors on Aug 30, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How good was the Steeler's LT or the Patriot's LT?
Average-ish I think off the top of my head.
by LantermanC on Aug 31, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did someone seriously just say???
Replacing Hasselbeck is more important than replacing Brian “Grit” Russell??? Holy cow just look at the vast array of missed tackles and other yuck that permeates his entire play. AAAAAHH!
Glenn Beck likes argument, but has a deap-seated hatred for logic.
by Cheddar28 on Aug 30, 2009 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was the fastest
and most vehemently typed post I’ve ever done. Pretty sure I worked up some adrenaline there.
Glenn Beck likes argument, but has a deap-seated hatred for logic.
by Cheddar28 on Aug 31, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
its not 'dominate' its 'dominant'.
Sorry to be the word police, but this drives me nuts,
by Strictnine on Aug 30, 2009 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great
Would be like Manning, Brady in this era ect Hass was next tier. I think many other decent QB’s on our team could have won those titles maybe even the SB in 05.
Anyhow point is he’s not very good anymore you’ll see if you watch. I guess you think we should still have SA as our starting HB too.
by A'Seahawks_Warriors on Aug 30, 2009 5:12 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Please click reply to reply
For the record, I thought it was just a great player by Vrabel. Right place, right time and did enough to tip it to Flowers.
by JamesMurphy on Aug 30, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was very little fault with Hass on that interception.
His great zip on short and medium-length passes just worked against him there. A little more loft and it would’ve been a first and then some. Plus the ball just barely got nicked.
Glenn Beck likes argument, but has a deap-seated hatred for logic.
by Cheddar28 on Aug 30, 2009 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK Back to the interception - Replying to Original Post.
No interception is good, but there are bad interceptions and Hasselbeck has thrown them.
Vrabel was more like a lineman getting his had up in what Matthew thought would be a passing lane.
Matt will absorb the “blame” for the interception — there was lots of heavy traffic in there and this is a game of inches.
I’ll bet (though could not prove this) that if Vrabel had not tipped that ball of its trajectory, we’d be saying "wow, great pass in heavy traffic to Branch — good zip on the ball, etc.
I doubt that Hasselbeck throws that pass in regular season because getting the ball to Branch would not have been a stated objective of the game. In this case the entire world knows about that Hasselbeck is under marching orders to get Branch the ball — so he might as well telegraph it.
I do think that Hasselbeck was off on a few passes (like the one early to Nate) and waited too long on one to take a sack needlessly.
He will
by Hawksince76 on Aug 30, 2009 9:05 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather he throw that pick now...
and say ‘oh yeah, thats right, I’m really rusty and havent played in forever, that wasnt a good idea’ than have him do that in the regular season.
by Strictnine on Aug 30, 2009 9:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hadn't thought about
how he was under pressure from coaches to get it to Branch so they could see what he can do. Very astute Hawksince. Or maybe I’m just slow and thick heh.
Glenn Beck likes argument, but has a deap-seated hatred for logic.
by Cheddar28 on Aug 30, 2009 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's the best kind of Cheddar.
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
by Nick Andron on Aug 31, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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is my favorite in terms of bang per buck.
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by Cheddar28 on Aug 31, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tillamook smoked cheddar is tasty (for the money).
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevan Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer
by Misfit74 on Aug 31, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.
by ninjasocks on Aug 31, 2009 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you're not saying
he will “fall off a cliff” with that last sentence.
Good point on forcing it to Branch. Makes sense to be a factor.
by jacobstevens on Aug 31, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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