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Seattle Seahawks Training Camp Report: 8/4/2009

On with the daily link dump and then to bed with this fagged out woolyback.

First to bat is Eric Williams. He spotlights the defense.

Pass rush drills were interesting today. Rob Sims and Cory Redding went against each other for the first time, and it was worth the price of the ticket. Sims won the first one, basically shucking an off-balanced Redding to the ground. But Redding came back during the second battle to get the best of Sims.

Sims really has looked solid during first few days of camp, and is playing with a lot of confidence.

I've been a Sims fan a long time. One of my first scouting reports for Field Gulls was on Sims. That was two and half years ago, after Sims stepped in and helped revitalize a 2006 Seahawks rushing attack that went from suck to productive. Sims proved to be a better pass blocker than run blocker. His run blocking was not awful, it was just sometimes awful. Memorably awful. For all the grief he endured in 2007 -- Sims was the designated scapegoat for Shaun Alexander and his dismantled foot -- he was a big part of Seattle's passing attack. Matt Hasselbeck was a surgeon, and Seattle's leading receiver was Bobby Engram, and it was Seattle's pass blocking and the consistent time it created that made that possible. Sims was Seattle's best interior pass blocker.

The angle on Redding is: What kind of pressure will he create at left defensive end? I would guess moderate hustle pressure with a chance for four to seven sacks. Some of which would be blitz-created sacks. But I think he'll contribute beyond that on pass defense. Redding is a big dude. He's a 3-4 size end. Seattle plans on blitzing its linebackers around the edge and opponents are going to have a tough time touching Aaron Curry when they must avoid Redding to get to him.

Update: 7:44

A little more about Redding from Farnsworth:

[Redding's] "too-short" practice included tossing 308-pound tackle Sean Locklear to the ground in the pass-rush drill, playing off a block by tackle Ray Willis to "sack" Matt Hasselbeck and getting to Justin Forsett before the gnat-quick running back could get to the line of scrimmage.

All in a day’s work for the player the Seahawks obtained in a March trade with the Detroit Lions.

"A little bit here, a little bit there," Redding said when asked about his versatility, and productivity. "I just try to make plays when my number is called."

I knew Redding was good, but I wasn't entirely sure if he was healthy. And good but not healthy equals bad and frustrating. I expect the Seahawks to do their darndest to protect Redding during the preseason (The Lions managed to strap him to a post and pacify him with something called "Rex Burgers") and that means not playing, but watch him when he gets out there, because you're gonna love him. He's a fun guy to watch work.

Redding wasn't the only addition to impress*, Courtney Greene merited mention:

So that’s why the Seahawks drafted Greene in the seventh round. The rookie safety from Rutgers is playing with the No. 3 defense, but he made impressive back-to-back plays Tuesday. The first was that soaring interception of a Mike Teel pass. But Greene followed that up by delivering a solid shot on rookie running back Devon Moore.

Greene will impress, but he'll frustrate too. He's playing for a special team spot. I've said it before, Greene's speed, ferocity and upper body strength make him a great fit at gunner. Don't get down on him if he blows cover or bites play-action. That's where Greene is in his development.

Star-divide

*Is that the most trite segue in the history of Field Gulls? I think it just might be.

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Cashless yesterday,

followed by strong reports of Redding today. I too was skeptical about his health. Encouraging and welcome news.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 4, 2009 8:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I went into the practice believing two things that were wrong.

#1. Redding is recovering from a knee injury and therefore will be limited. He was not.

#2. Kearney will be limited because of the shoulder recovery.

On whether he expects Walter Jones and Patrick Kerney to practice: "I do. We’ll do a limited deal with both Walter and Pat initially. We’ll have a program just to ease them into it. We’re very happy [with] where both those guys are at, to answer your question. But we’ll limit them. Even if there was nothing that they’re coming off of, certainly with Walter and where he’s at [we’d limit him]. I expect, in a very short period of time, that Pat will be going through just about everything."

Eric Williams, July 30th

Both players were not limited at all on August 3rd, when I was watching them. Very encouraging. Ruskell was right about the “very short period of time.”

by cashless on Aug 4, 2009 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Love the picture.

Those medicine balls are the biggest one’s I have ever seen, and the defensive linemen throw them at the coaches, who put their whole body into catching them. That was great to watch.

by cashless on Aug 4, 2009 9:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is t.j. whosurmomma our first WR or second?

fuck lookout landing for banning me for no reason at all...nerds

by bigdickwillie on Aug 4, 2009 9:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure if Housh's designation of what # WR he is is relevant.

Matt Hasselbeck is pretty good at spreading around the ball to most targets and it stands to reason that if Housh is even dubbed the #2 WR, he’ll be on the field a lot and starting most games.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 4, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok but is he our best WR

fuck lookout landing for banning me for no reason at all...nerds

by bigdickwillie on Aug 4, 2009 9:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You could say that, yes.

TJ Houshmandzadeh has more receptions than any other wide receiver in the NFL during the last 4 seasons. He may not be an elite game-breaker but he’s a still a premier wideout simply due to his exceptional consistency.

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 4, 2009 10:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any chance you could change your username and signature?

The name is childish and the signature attacks a fellow SBN blog.

by John Morgan on Aug 4, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A fellow blog that banned me for no reason

How do i change my username?

fuck lookout landing for banning me for no reason at all...nerds

by bigdickwillie on Aug 5, 2009 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't take it personally, they ban a lot of people, though usually with reason.

I don’t think you can change your username, you just have to make a new one?

by LantermanC on Aug 5, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

You would need to make a new account.

by John Morgan on Aug 5, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

question about Redding

With Kerney moving to the other side where he will be solo with the LT, is it expected that Redding will be double teamed more then he ever has? If so one would expect his sack numbers to be fairly low as John predicted but will this minimize his contributions to disrupting plays?

by Hancock.Brett on Aug 4, 2009 10:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

in other words

will he contribute more then Lawrence Jackson?

by Hancock.Brett on Aug 4, 2009 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

funny

but before we dump on LoJack too much, note that Cory Redding had a total of 7 tackles as a rookie. It took him a few years to learn to play in the NFL and we should expect the same of Jackson.

by Stevo's on Aug 5, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am sure he was not

but just because Jackson was exposed to a lot of snaps as a rookie does not mean he was ready. And just because he was overexposed and overmatched as a rookie doesn’t mean he can’t develop.

More to the point of Hancock’s question: neither Redding nor Jackson need to contribute on every play. That’s the beauty of our D line depth this year.

by Stevo's on Aug 5, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If offenses can account for Cole with just the center, yes.

Assuming he’s in the traditional shade to the left of the Center lineup, then Redding as the left end would see a good mix of RG & RT double-teams, especially on passing downs.

But defenses have some control over this. By lining up an end outside his tackle it’s taxing on interior assignments to double-team him. They just fan out so the guard can keep him from getting around on the inside, in case he comes around, but otherwise the guard sticks to their own assignment.

I have no idea how that relates to Redding’s prior experience. Teams find ways to double-team the best guy on the line, if he proves to be a problem.

by jacobstevens on Aug 4, 2009 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's got the body for LDE

The biggest benefit of Redding playing at LDE may be the boost it gives to Pat Kerney. Double-teams and getting chipped by the TE are what LDEs deal with, and Kerney really doesn’t have the size to be ideal at LDE. Kerney is more of a rip and spin pass rusher who will benefit from some room to move. Meanwhile, Redding can take on those double teams and dog-fight on the line and maybe he won’t get sacks but he will tie up blockers and give em hell. And if Jackson keeps adding strength, he will be a good backup in rotation with Redding also. This could make the right side of our D much tougher to run against while freeing up Kerney some too.

by Stevo's on Aug 5, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But what if Kerney struggles facing much more refined left tackles?

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 5, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

then Tapp gets his shot

though I don’t think he’ll ever do what Kerney can. And depending how Kerney holds up, Ruskell could be in the market for yet another DE next off season. As you know, the great ones are a rare breed and hard to find. For now, I’ll put my money on Kerney.

by Stevo's on Aug 5, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That doesn't seem like a good use of personnel.

If Kerney is a proven pass-rusher in the spot that Redding occupies but struggles on the other side, he gets taken off the field completely?

"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."

by Fearless Frog on Aug 5, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or they just switch back.

The bigger Redding occupies the LT and the Seahawks assume risk to Kerney’s shoulder with double teams and TE chips.

by Airborne Hawk Guy on Aug 5, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

I was really just assuming that if Kerney is 100% healthy he will succeed at RDE as he did in Atlanta.
The only scenario in which I see him failing would be failure to stay healthy, in which case his retirement would not be far off.

And if Kerney can’t go, Tapp and Lojack would probably fight it out to replace him, I would think.

by Stevo's on Aug 5, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

if everyone stays healthy, this d-line is looking very scary

Redding – Cole – Mebane – Kearney

Assuming Cole does his job taking on the double teams, that leaves Kearney and Mebane one on one on most downs and on the same side. Yikes. Sure, a team could try to just run strong side, but that’s where Arron Curry will be waiting…

Also, any blitz to the right side (Hill) is bound to cause worlds of trouble. This could be an awesome front seven, if only our defensive ends get and stay healthy.

by B.B.Finnegan on Aug 4, 2009 11:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

With all these health questions/concerns

I’ll probably be wincing and closing my eyes and muttering a quick, fervent prayer any time there’s a big hit or someone gets fallen on. Gonna be a bunch of nail-biting sessions for me.

Glenn Beck likes argument, but has a deap-seated hatred for logic.

by Cheddar28 on Aug 5, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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