Mike Holmgren Does Not Approve of This Play
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My reaction as this play is happening:
Hey is that Seneca in the shotgun? Where's Matt? Is that Carlson lined up over there wait that's number eight OH MY GOD THAT'S HASSELBECK AND SENECA JUST THREW TO HIM WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HOLY SHIT RUN RUN RUN RUN GO SENECA GO!
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I have no idea.
The source video I used wasn’t very good so I couldn’t really make out jersey numbers.
I think it was a TE
Both Vallos and Unger got out there towards the end of the run.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 14, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Anti-Holmgren feature play example #1
Schwing!
OH MY GOD THAT’S HASSELBECK AND SENECA JUST THREW TO HIM WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HOLY SHIT RUN RUN RUN RUN GO SENECA GO!
My reaction was very similar to this. It sure creates some added anticipation and excitement about the rest of our games.
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My reaction was exactly the same as Brian's from the 300 level.
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by BrettJMiller on Sep 14, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I flung my arms up in a cheer like a big goober and knocked a drink out of a guy's hand
I’m pretty sure it happened on this play. The crowd just went crazy.
It's official
This isn’t Holmgren’s offense anymore.
And that, my friends, is so exciting.
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
Hahaha I was waiting for that
It came quicker than I thought!
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
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by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 14, 2009 9:42 AM PDT reply actions 3 recs
that's a mighty big football you've got there, SeaCat
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BrianL's fear of furries rears its ugly head.
I will smash your face into a jelly.
by Phil Hatzenbuehler on Sep 14, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Scruffy is infatuated by cats.
Remember the eye laser cat?
I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.
Unrelated but I'm now concerned about our LBs.
We just re-signed D.D. Lewis (fanshot w/ link is up)
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I was a little worried the Ref's would bring it back
I wasn’t sure if that first one was a pass or lateral, but they got it right.
it was behind the line of scrimmage
back there, direction of the pass doesn’t matter.
2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Marcus Trufant.
You can make as many laterals as you want
But you only get one forward pass per play. Therefore if Seneca threw a forward pass AND Hass threw a forward pass back to him, it’d be a penalty.
But the first was a lateral, so all went well.
by B.B.Finnegan on Sep 14, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm so curious as to play design...
For instance, you have to prepare some pass block for seneca, but then also for Matt when he holds it (only for a moment tho’), then you need blocks ahead of seneca, but receivers must be selling the pass… truly strange plan to build I would think. Sims, Obo do a great blocks for Seneca, and Vallos seemed to clear the way (but was outrun quickly).
The funny thing is that whoever it was that was lined up left
Had nobody within 20 yards of him as he streaked down the field after the pass to Hasselbeck. If Matt would have seen him — instead of passing back to Seneca — that guy would have walked into the end zone.
I think it was Housh, but I couldn’t be sure from where I was sitting (very far away). It all happened so fast.
Regardless, I certainly and wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment of the post. Just awesome.
Housh was blocking for Matt
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by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 14, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I saw the same thing at the game. I don't recall who it was.
He wasn’t just a little bit open either….
I saw a Kelly Jennings INT.......really....
by The Manchild on Sep 14, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
It might have been either Carlson or Jones
Both guys can be seen streaking down the left at the snap.
by Jeff Nusser on Sep 14, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Don't know if there's anybody still reading this thread...
But there’s a video of this play up on seahawks.com that has a wide-angle replay. From there you can tell that it’s Edge streaking out of the backfield down the left sideline, waving his hand in the air.
Doesn’t really look like Hasselbeck would have been able to set his feet and launch it that far downfield AND diagonally across the width of the field, but he was definitely wide open for a couple seconds there.
That play brought me joy
It’s just fun to watch, in a way that those 3rd down fullback draw plays never were.
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by HawksFanHernandez on Sep 14, 2009 10:37 AM PDT reply actions
I didn't want to be too presumptuous
but deep down we all know that wherever Walrus was, he broke into a cold sweat as this play was happening.
The cold sweats began as soon as he saw Matt line up in the shotgun on the first drive.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
by Fearless Frog on Sep 14, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions
There's a small part of me that thinks
Holmgren would have been more bothered by the fact Seneca was in the shotgun rather than the fact that MATT HASSELBECK WAS LINED UP AT WIDEOUT
I'm not the only one here who was thoroughly impressed by Greg Knapp's playcalling.
It may be the Rams, but it was still marvelous.
"Part, fools!
Put up your swords. You know not what you do."
Although the game dictated it to a large degree...
I particularly like the commitment to Jones and the running game. Never strayed from pounding the rock. I just hope we can do that against better front sevens.
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Rams D was like ?!
I’ll break it down for y’all
We came out in a Shotgun 2RB 1TE 3 Wide set. The TE(Owens, I think) was left of the line. Everyone else was right. Before the Snap, the FB split out wide with Matt and Housh. After the Snap, Jones and the TE took off up the left side. The OL breaks right as if they are setting up a WR screen.
Seneca then Laterals to Matt, Housh and Griffith pass block. With the entire defense on the right side of the field, Matt Laterals back to Seneca, who then streaks up the left sideleine. The OL at this point are just standing in the middle of the field, once the Lateral back to Seneca occurs, they clear the road for him.
#77(Frye) makes a block at the LOS, Vallos and Unger haul ass up the left side to lay some blocks and Seneca gains about 25 yards.
That last bit goes with something I noticed throughout the game, certain lineman getting deep into the second level on run plays. Thats something we haven’t really seen since 2005.
OOOOOH!!!!! That was NASTY!!!!!!!!
Nice analysis
Unger and vallos are very promising guys.
by paul2 on Sep 14, 2009 2:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Thanks for clearing that up.
I don’t have a DVR so my analysis came from my memory and that gif. I didn’t think Frye played but it looks like #77 in the gif.
I need to get a DVR.
OOOOOH!!!!! That was NASTY!!!!!!!!
I'm so excited I might just
watch that gif all day.
Can we run some single wing? Just one play, please?
It would have been so disappointing if Seneca
would have gone down at the LOS. Thankfully, he’s as much of an agile ninja as Sea Cat is.
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That was a shocking play
I doubt we see that under Holmgren. It was super dangerous if someone read it right. I’m sure it will be used very sparingly. But boy, what an audacious play. Both your first and second string QB on the field in harm’s way with your second string QB running the ball. That was wild. I was stunned when I saw it and exuberant when it worked.
JM, I wonder if you can explicate
The difference between the Wildcat Formation and a trick play. Every time there’s a trick play, I hear someone refer to it as the “Wildcat”.
The Wildcat, is actually
a two quarterback set from a double wing formation, shotgub snapped, both QB’s moving as if they both have the ball, and/or one blocking for the other.
Very effective with youth football, where QB’s dont get as much money.
The media anything where someone besides the QB gets the ball on a direct snap ‘Wildcat’
This play is just a quarterback-in-as-a-receiver lateral passback. You can call it a flea flicker but its not really that either. As far as it being a trick play, its pretty conservative and simple, just exciting and risky cause 10 seconds after the play is over we COULD be talking a lot about Mike Teel. Forever.
Excellent. Thank you.
I’m getting the feeling “Wildcat” is going to become my new pet peeve.
BTW, Holmgren did run trick plays, just not very successfully.
I was losing my shit in the Hawks Nest as the play developed
Then in deep despair that the brilliance was wasted by another ugly turnover
by lemonverbena on Sep 15, 2009 8:50 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Today I realize how bored The Walrus™ made us
that the first trick play in 10 years would make us all so excited.
God I hope this wasnt a one-off.
Do this once more to someone, and then in some big game when we really need it, it’ll be a fake and Hass will bomb it to Burleson for a game winning TD

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