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Us Twelves are mere apprentices in Bronco hatred compared to the true masters in the field: Cleveland Browns fans. Their tales of tragedy against those Denver Schmucks make ours look only mildly disconcerting...

First of all, I want to make it clear: I have little affection for Browns fans in general. Yes, there are cool ones out there. I'm particularly fond of two Browns blogs: Cleveland Reboot and No Logo Needed. They are the minority though. In general, Browns fans are an ignorant lot of savages. I've been to Seahawks games in Cleveland twice, and in both cases I was treated worse that I had ever been treated at any other sporting event as an opposing fan. Here's a taste of my experience at Cleveland Browns Stadium in 2007:

This was the worst experience I’ve ever had at an NFL game, and not just because the Seahawks lost. I can say without a doubt that the fans at Cleveland Browns Stadium are the most ignorant, drunken bunch of s**theels I’ve ever been exposed to at a sporting event.

Before anyone says "it’s like that everywhere," go to a game at Qwest Field and root for the other team. You’ll probably get intermittently yelled at, but you’ll never feel like you are personally in danger. You’ll notice that the Seahawks fans actually know when to be loud and when to be quiet (here’s a hint, Browns fans: When your team has the ball, shut the f**k up… Your players are telling you to be quiet for a reason). You might observe that Seattle has the loudest stadium in the NFL WITHOUT de-evolving into a gaggle of 66,000 f**ktards.

Star-divide

When I went to the bathroom, someone threw a wadded up wet paper towel into the stall at me. After the Seahawks scored to go up 7-0, I cheered for my team, which motivated the guy in front of me to scream in my face "SIT DOWN AND SHUT THE F**K UP! THIS IS CLEVELAND!"

Of course, my reply was "I paid for my ticket! Woooooo!" This got the whole section chanting "ASSHOLE!" at me; I gleefully joined in at the top of my lungs. :-]

Side note: I have no love for the self-proclaimed Seahawks "fans" around me who sat there silent during the whole game. F**king suburbanite cowards.

Once it was clear I wasn’t going to be intimidated, they resorted to mockery, exaggeratedly cheering each time the Browns made a positive play. Um, we actually do that in Seattle.. You know, cheer when our team does good things. One guy walking past me shouted "Cleveland Rocks!" right in my face.. then said "You ever hear that one? What has Seattle ever done?" My reply: "Nirvana."

When the game was over, one fan turned to say something to me.. I assumed it would be "nice game" or something like that… Nope.

"Sucks to be you, man."

Ahh, Cleveland. Nothing but class. In retrospect, I REALLY wish I had worn my Red Sox hat (this was immediately after Boston beat Cleveland in the 2007 ALCS)... 

Another thing I love about Cleveland fans? They insist that you pretend they aren't a ten-year-old expansion team, and that the Ravens weren't at one time the original Cleveland Browns. It's like they were married to a woman named, oh, let's say... Bernice. Then Bernice left them and moved to Baltimore, where she got gastric bypass, a makeover, a great job and a better husband. Then THEY married Bernice's identical twin sister and INSISTED on calling her Bernice and pretending as if that nasty divorce business never happened. Pathetic. 

But I'm getting sidetracked.. this is about Cleveland's totally legit Bronco hatred. The Browns' all-time record against Denver? 5-20. It gets worse. Cleveland hasn't beaten Denver since 1990, and is riding a seven-game losing streak against Bowlen's brigade. In my 34+ years on Planet Earth, the Browns are 2-19 against Denver! 

I haven't even touched on the three AFC Championship Game losses to end the '86, '87 and '89 seasons... Take how we all felt about those three traumatizing losses to the Rams in 2004, and then imagine that each of them happened in the NFC Championship Game... Yeah. Ouch. 

Obviously history doesn't favor the Browns at Mile High this Sunday. However, the immutable fact is that Denver simply isn't a very good team. Cleveland could easily go into Denver's house and steal a win... Before you tout Denver's hallowed Home Field Advantage, remember that the Broncos are only 13-11 at home over the last three seasons. 

So for this week, I put aside my disdain and contempt for the Brownies, as we unite in our common hatred of the Denver Menace. 

My prediction? Browns 12, Broncos 9

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Browns 4, Broncos 3

Browns get two accidental safeties. The second at the end of the game, seconds left, when Orton flubs a kneel down to seal it and the ball bounces back through the end zone.

by B.B.Finnegan on Sep 16, 2009 10:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Um... your Bernice comparison hits a little too close to home.

If we get the Memphis Grizzlies to move to Seattle and change their name to the SuperSonics, that’s exactly what we’ll do as well.

by LantermanC on Sep 16, 2009 10:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Screw that!

I will never supporting a Seattle basketball team again (unless the team that shall not be named w/ Durant comes back somehow). Wouldn’t give those that let it happen the satisfaction or the funds. Of course, it’s a bit easier since I live in Vancouver, WA. I love Paul Allen. Need I say more?

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevan Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Sep 16, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll gladly welcome an NBA team back with open arms.

Won’t stop me from sticking pins into my Commissioner Stern voodoo doll, but I’ll welcome an NBA team back.

by BrianL on Sep 16, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clay Bennett:

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Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevan Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Sep 16, 2009 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Stern, and Howard Schultz.

I’m never watching another NBA game again, live or televised. They wanna steal part of my childhood, then they can do without my business for the next five decades. (If the Gone-ics returned to Seattle, I’ll think about it, but no Bernice-ish shenanigans. Gotta be the original.)

by thebyron on Sep 17, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I loved the supes

I was three when pops took me down to the Championship parade. I was heartbroken when they left, still not over that shit. But as much as I hate to admit it, if we get a new team with the same logo and colors It’d be like she never left. Like you said about that bitch Bernice, if I had a fine ass woman who left me over silly shit, and I hated her for it, but then her twin sister came to me and told me we should just keep it movin, I’m sure I’d hit it and keep it movin. I know it sucks paying greedy millionaires pockets but like Bill Whithers said “It ain’t too bad when you’re usin’ me, ‘cause I sho’ am usin’ you to do the thangs you do”.

by Hawkmain on Sep 17, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know...

If a girl I liked cheated one me or left me or whatever, I don’t think I’d accept her twin copy. I have a twin brother, so maybe that changes things. I’m also a stubborn ass, so I think I’d insist on the real thing or nothing.
I’ll never support the NBA in Seattle until Stern is no longer the commissioner. The fact that the NBA is, in my mind, a defective product anyways makes it easier to ignore them though.

by LantermanC on Sep 17, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Looks like I messed up the formatting...

..can anyone help me fix it?

"I hate to break it to you, but there is no big lie, there is no system, the universe is indifferent." -Don Draper

by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Sep 16, 2009 10:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I do that

No matter how drunk.

by John Morgan on Sep 16, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's fine

but working through multiple browsers is a fuck.

by John Morgan on Sep 16, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

No need to censor yourself. We swear at Field Gulls.

by John Morgan on Sep 16, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which doesn't bother me in the slightest

but just out of curiosity, what’s the rationale for excessive swearing not being an issue but pics in the comments being kept under wraps?

by jacobstevens on Sep 17, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't have a strong opinion about pictures

other than not to abuse them. I think swearing is the same. The most eloquent people I know swear, but so do the least eloquent.

by John Morgan on Sep 17, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pictures can bog down the performance of a comment section in a hurry.

That’s much more of a concern during game threads where comment volume is higher.

by BrianL on Sep 17, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I was trying to stay classy, but since I have the green light...

Fuck fuckity fuck tit-licking cocktaster!

"I hate to break it to you, but there is no big lie, there is no system, the universe is indifferent." -Don Draper

by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Sep 16, 2009 10:43 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I am offended

please apologize to my children and their children before them

by B.B.Finnegan on Sep 16, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was wondering what all that **** horseshit was about.

If you want to say something like ‘cocklicker’ or ‘snatchface’ just say it.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevan Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Sep 16, 2009 11:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or you could just watch this

Swear to God with Rev. Winton Dupree

"I hate to break it to you, but there is no big lie, there is no system, the universe is indifferent." -Don Draper

by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Sep 16, 2009 10:45 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Another quick SBN tip

(and don’t sweat it, figuring out the interface here can be an absolute pain in the ass)

At the bottom of each comment is a “reply” hyperlink. Hit that and a comment box opens up under the comment you’re replying to. Doing that does this neat little nested comment trick.

As for the editorial management, as soon as you figure it out let me know. I’ve usually have to go back and edit once or twice to get the formatting right.

by BrianL on Sep 16, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually now that I think about it

it might be time to create an SBN interface primer. I’ll get to work on that tomorrow.

by BrianL on Sep 16, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I'm just a dick,

this was fun to read and all but I don’t like having my dislike for a team marginalized because another franchise has had different experiences than me. Fuck that. I don’t like the Broncos, I don’t respect their fans and I don’t give a shit about Cleveland. One of the greatest experiences of my life was Christmas Eve 1982 when the ‘Hawks beat the Broncos in the ’Dome in their first ever playoff game. All the subsequent times that cocksucker Elway came in and beat them, makes that game even sweeter. Entertaining reads to be sure. But frankly, Denver can go fuck themselves regardless of any other team’s misfortune.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Sep 17, 2009 7:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I wholeheartedly agree

Denver can indeed go fuck themselves.. preferably right in the ear, but we’re not the only ones who feel that way.

"I hate to break it to you, but there is no big lie, there is no system, the universe is indifferent." -Don Draper

by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Sep 17, 2009 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough

..but history is filled with stories of brief alliances based completely on shared hatred and a mutual sense of grievance. No one is telling you to go out and buy a Brady Quinn jersey my man.

"I hate to break it to you, but there is no big lie, there is no system, the universe is indifferent." -Don Draper

by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Sep 17, 2009 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good thing too.

Personally I’m not down with those alliances. Us against the world. Now, if I find myself having to root for a particular team (like the Raiders in ‘99 to beat the Chiefs in the last game of the season so the ’Hawks can earn a playoff spot) for the betterment of the ’Hawks, well, that’s just pure economics. As far as I’m concerned I owe the Raiders nothing and despise them as much as ever. History may be filled with those brief alliances, but I am not included in that. Again, that’s me.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Sep 17, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In this case you should be rooting for the Browns!

Dont forget the Hawks have Denvers 1st. So in this case it is beneficial to them. I also want to shout out to all Hawks fans out there. I am sitting in Cairo, Egypt with my auto-Largent jersey on the wall and my Curry jersey on.

by tquinlivan on Sep 17, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One more thing.

Thank God for NFL Game Pass. I get to watch all my Hawks games.

by tquinlivan on Sep 17, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey... I was just in Cairo!

Looks like I’ve got the possibility of a few more business trips there this fall. It will hurt giving up my tickets, but not much I can do about that. Where is a good place to watch the game if I end up in Cairo for a few Sundays?

by Wolverine in the Hawks Nest on Sep 17, 2009 8:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope, sorry.

And I dont think there is anyplace to watch the games here, unless the hotel you’re staying in has one of the sports channel. And even then, it will probably be some other game.

by tquinlivan on Sep 18, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha

Well that’s not particularly encouraging. I will have to tell my boss that business in Egypt will have to wait until the end of the football season. I am sure he will understand.

by Wolverine in the Hawks Nest on Sep 18, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish

There is probably some way I can somehow get a pic next to the Sphinx with a jersey. I will check it out and post pic if I get it!

by tquinlivan on Sep 18, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The pick will be what it is.

Denver doesn’t need my help imploding. I just sit back and enjoy.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Sep 17, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Think We Can All Look to the Master When It Comes to Cleveland

"If I ever saw myself saying I’m excited going to Cleveland, I’d punch myself in the face, because I’m lying." – Ichiro

Can both teams lose?

by robbbbbb on Sep 17, 2009 8:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Rofl awesome.

Glenn Beck likes argument, but has a deap-seated hatred for logic.

by Cheddar28 on Sep 17, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a General-Purpose Quote

It has so many applications.

by robbbbbb on Sep 17, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Teams without Superbowl appearances

Detroit Lions
Cleveland Browns
Jacksonville Jaguars

Even the Cardinals have been . Sure, Cleveland fans can tell you about their NFL Championship games, titles, and all that. But lets face it- the Jags are new, the Lions and Browns are the definition of football futility. Even when at the doorstep of the biggest game in the league, the Brownies have failed. Pretty pathetic. Now- throw in the fact that they live in Cleveland and the team that left them behind has since won a Superbowl….extra bitter. Now- just for cappers- remember what happens when football season ends in Cleveland? Yes- Cleveland Winters and lake effect snow. Fun stuff.

Go Browns! Hopefully this weekend they’ll beat the Broncos.

Don’t go mentioning to me that Cleveland has LeBron. Doesn’t count. The NBA is dead to me.

by Section 128 on Sep 17, 2009 8:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't forget the Saints and Texans!

No roman numeral games there either… Also, Cleveland is the only city to have NEVER participated in OR hosted a Super Bowl.

"I hate to break it to you, but there is no big lie, there is no system, the universe is indifferent." -Don Draper

by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Sep 17, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Denver is having a lucky season

They beat Cinci on a last minute freak play and now Urlacher is out for the season. Their first round pick may be higher than ours. The Chicago defense will not be good without Urlacher.

by ASeahawkfan on Sep 17, 2009 9:04 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

still 15 games for denver to stink it up. ;-)

"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank

by Stevo's on Sep 17, 2009 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cutler debut bust

made me really happy and kinda helped cover over the Denver win. He deserves nothing less for all that child-like behavior.

Glenn Beck likes argument, but has a deap-seated hatred for logic.

by Cheddar28 on Sep 17, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ha ha nice

yeah the broncos can eat a dick with AIDS on the tip.

by GTsmookie on Sep 17, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please put up something new so that fuckin Broncos picture

isn’t the first thing that comes up when I jump on this site anymore. Thank you.

by Hawkmain on Sep 17, 2009 1:38 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Been a weird morning

I am getting around to work, but things have kept me busy.

by John Morgan on Sep 17, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think most people here are waiting for an analysis titled

‘Why the Seahawks demolish the 49ers and how they will wrap up the NFC West by week 8’ piece.

by LantermanC on Sep 17, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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