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Devin Moore Is A Perfectly Ordinary, Fast as Hell and Soon to Be Cut, Non-Drafted Free Agent

Devin Moore toting an oversized novelty football.

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Devin Moore toting an oversized novelty football.

In the hazy late high-school years, when everyone I knew was an artist, writer, musician and likely all three, we would fidget in our self-made haze and talk our grand futures. One satellite friend had a bad drinking problem and big plans to make home-made acid. He envisioned himself one-part Hunter Thompson and two-parts Neil Cassady. Last I knew he was penitentiary bound.

It's not enough to have the bad habits of the great to be great. Flunking out of school doesn't make someone Albert Einstein. Nor does a bad drinking problem make someone a writer. Devin Moore played in the MWC. He was not invited to the NFL Combine and he did not get drafted. He has good straight line speed that shows itself on returns, and surprising tackle-breaking ability for someone his size.

His size is 5'9 ½", 191. The height is fine, but the weight is a problem. He is almost exactly the same size as Warrick Dunn, but Dunn dominated at Florida State in a way Moore couldn't dominate at Wyoming. Rushers Moore's size rarely excel in the NFL, and Moore has yet to prove he can contribute on anything but sweeps and tosses. He hasn't set the world on fire with his sweeps and tosses, either. He is averaging 2.65 yards per carry on 23 rushes and hasn't caught a pass.

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Moore's speed got him an invite to the NFL. He broke some at Wyoming, but not as many as one might think. He held a private workout at a facility near Indianapolis International Airport and impressed with a 4.41 forty among other strong measurables. There's two big problems with that time. The first is that times recorded outside the NFL Combine are often inflated. I don't know the quality of the surface and because it was private, there is no "control" to judge Moore against. Beanie Wells ran an ugly 4.59 forty at the NFL Combine, but then ran a 4.38 at the Buckeyes pro day. That second number segues to Moore's other problem: 4.41 is not that fast.

2008 didn't produce a strong running back class and Moore's 4.41 would have in fact topped the Combine's leader board. An average class would have produced faster, heavier running backs with better production against top competition. In a broad sense, if you want to be as small as Moore, you need to be as fast as Chris Johnson. Johnson was taken in the first round and exploded on the NFL. If Moore ran as fast as Johnson, he might have been selected in the first round too. Or at least the first day.

That is one more fact working against Moore. Non-drafted running backs sometimes find success. The publicity enjoyed by players like Ryan Grant makes it seem almost everyday. That's a phenomenon known as the media paradox. Abnormal stories are newsworthy, and, excuse me, viral, so the information is disseminated from source to person and from person to person until people fear shark attack more than, say, sepsis. Death by shark is a bit less likely than Moore becoming a regular, but about as likely as Moore becoming a star. A player like Moore will likely be available after next year's draft, just as Dantrell Savage was available in 2008.

Greatness makes the peculiarities noteworthy. Without writing, Dylan Thomas is another drunk dead in an anonymous hospital bed, Friedrich Nietzsche only a mad man, and Edna St. Vincent Millay another brewer dabbling in bisexuality. Without success, Moore is another late-round flier soon forgotten, and never known were he not a Seahawk. Never known if we were not a bit obsessive. That he attended a small school and was not invited to the NFL Combine and did not get drafted dramatically reduce his chances of making it in the NFL.

With good depth at running back, and great injury histories for all three projected starters, what can Seattle expect from Moore in 2009? What upside does he have over a street free agent or rusher on another team's practice squad?  And what purpose would he serve on Seattle's practice squad? Nothing, none and no purpose unless he makes a phenomenal splash this Thursday.

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I never really understood the love for Moore

and this is coming from a guy who got right behind Forsett last year. He’s fast, and that’s about it. And he’s really not that fast anyways. I don’t even care if he lands on the PS, give the spot to someone else. As far as RB’s are concerned, I’m just waiting for next year when we draft one. Because I’m almost positive Ruskell will draft one next year regardless of the performance of our RB’s this year (unless Forsett absolutely takes off, which isn’t likely to happen).

by Fear on Sep 2, 2009 3:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

i've got no problem with retreads

running back is a pretty fungible position. as long we we keep our line solid i think we can get by with late round picks and veteran retreads (chester taylor, cadillac williams etc). in general, i’d rather that ruskell puts resources into more important positions. obviously it depends on the talent that is available, but to me, LT, QB, DT, OG, and S will all much higher priorities for the hawks.

by cro-mag! on Sep 2, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't get me wrong.

I too believe that RB is a pretty fungible position. I’m of the opinion that a team should draft a RB, play them, then draft another one 3-4 years later when the first RB’s rookie contract runs up. Cheap production.

by Fear on Sep 2, 2009 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only a seahawk fan would have this opinion

Because we’ve never really had any time recently a truly amazing RB.

If you were a Vikings fan, and AP’s contract was coming up, would you REALLY say “meh, we’ll draft another guy like him”???

I’m a bit skeptical :P

The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.

by Nick Andron on Sep 2, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

AP's a freak

but I won’t say what I would do with his contract until it came up. Because I honestly wouldn’t know what to do. That guy is an injury waiting to happen. So until he’s hitting his final season, I probably wouldn’t re-sign him. And when his contract comes up, how much money is he going to command? If my team is sitting on a good 1st round pick with a good RB likely to be there, I might hold off on re-signing him if it’s going to break the bank. Or if I already have a talented RB in the system, I might just go with him instead.

SA is the clear warning example. Once he signed that contract, his production didn’t really matter. 28 TD seasons were unsustainable once Hutchinson left, and there was basically no way he could really live up to his contract. And by signing him to that contract, the team couldn’t justify building up depth behind him. Otherwise you start investing too much money into the position, like what the Chargers had at the QB position several years back (Rivers and Brees). This is why we are using re-treads right now; because we didn’t use decent draft picks on RB’s because we had SA and his huge contract at the position. Now that the contract is cleared, I expect more money to be invested into the position in the form of higher draft picks.

BTW, please no one side track this into an argument about SA. His production didn’t matter, it was the contract that dictated what we did at the position (in my opinion anyways). So I was only talking about his contract, and the potential effect that large contracts can have on a position and future depth.

by Fear on Sep 2, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

A solid running game is needed to win a championship, but not overpowering. I’d rather put my money and draft picks into the passing game and O-line.

by ASeahawkfan on Sep 3, 2009 1:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

AP is a freak.

and no, you wouldn’t wait for another guy like him.

but if i had a need at running back would wait for another guy like (recent first round running backs) knowshown moreno, beanie wells, d-mac, felix jones, jonathan stewart, rashard mendenhall, chris johnson, marshawn lynch, reggie bush, lawrence moroney, deangelo williams, joseph addai, ronnie brown, cedric benson, cadillac williams, kevin jones, steven jackson.

in my mind, out of the 16 running backs taken in the first round since 2004, only Peterson and Steven Jackson have been real game changers. (case could be made for deangelo, chris johnson and addai, but i’d point to the systems they play in) with the other guys, i’d much rather pick up a journeyman RB for a year or two while putting that first round pick into a more important position.

also keep in mind that in 2006 chester taylor picked up 1200+ yards and 4.0 YPC in MIN, that kind of talent is not freely available every year but i’m just using it to point out that there are guys who can come in and succeed, who won’t cost a first round draft pick.

by cro-mag! on Sep 2, 2009 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You keep bringing up Hyundai Williams.

How many games has he played in the past few years?

I would have no problem bringing in a retread if it were someone good. But a lot of teams are liking their young halfbacks these days…and we haven’t had one in a while.

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Sep 2, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

just an example

just an example of a low risk, high reward 2010 free agent. i’d love to see the FO bring in him (or somebody else) with a low guarantee, incentive laden contract, and have them compete with JJ, Forsett, and a 3-5th round pick. Keep the best three.

Other (low risk, reasonable upside) 2010 free agents
- Jerious Norwood
- Pierre Thomas
- Leon Washington
- Lendale White

Obviously there are knocks against all those guys, that’s why they’re going to be cheap. But with this sort of player available as “Replacement Value” it seems weird to invest a first round pick into the backfield. That resource could be better used elsewhere.

by cro-mag! on Sep 3, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just get tired of having re-treads.

If Pierre Thomas or someone else could come in and tear it up, I’d love it.

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Sep 3, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jets are already trying to lock up Washington and Atlanta would be foolish to let Norwood go.

The Washington contract is going to be huge, btw. Thomas isn’t likely to be available and I doubt White is cheap.

by John Morgan on Sep 3, 2009 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Including me.

And I’ve learned my lesson about giving big contracts to RBs.

by Fear on Sep 2, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you on everything except the desire for another DT.

And maybe not OG, depending on how/where Unger plays.

by thebyron on Sep 2, 2009 3:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, thought about including my reasoning

but didn’t want to make the post less clear.

DT just seems like a big question mark, “does colin cole suck?” and “will red bryant wake up to his potential?” depending on how we answer those questions it seems to me like a 3rd or 4th round pick for depth and upside might be warranted.

the OG comment sorta needs an asterisk like… If spencer walks we need Wrotto, Sims, and Unger to prove they can be the starters in our interior line. If spencer is killin it, we probably don’t need another guard as we will have three (pretty good) players competing for two spots.

shrugs and oh by the way we have an entire season to watch, get stoked, and can wait till next offseason to figure out this stuff. =)

by cro-mag! on Sep 2, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I fell in Love with the idea of Moore

Because I initially thought he was much faster than he actually is. I mistakenly thought he was Chris Johnson fast, and I liked the fact that bewteen him & Butler it sounded like Ruskell was really trying to upgrade the speed at the skill positions.

But seeing how his speed was closer to normal, I’ve preety much lost all interest in him since Camp started.

"I'm tired of chasing after my dreams. I'll just find out where they're going, and catch up later." - Hedberg

by jteckmann on Sep 2, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mountain West is Div 1

Wyoming is not a good MWC team but it’s a decent conference. You know with BYU, TCU and Utah. The conference thumped the pac-10 something like 6-0 last year.

by Hawqz on Sep 2, 2009 3:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well I'll be a pickle.

Thank you for the correction and I’ll change that.

by John Morgan on Sep 2, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not only that

Wyoming knocked of Tennessee of the mighty S E C.

Although that was more a testament to Tennessee’s awfulness than Wyoming’s greatness.

[DELETED ZOMG NO POLITICS]

by bluemax on Sep 2, 2009 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no title
Never known if we were not a bit obsessive.

How many times has my wife told me this!?

by StonerHawks on Sep 2, 2009 3:51 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is a great article. Good writing, great to read.

I do have a question for you though JM, with Forsett being about the same height/weight but slower, and certainly being no Warrick Dunn, is there any reason why the same exact concerns don’t apply to Forsett? Or do they? Or is there something else about Forsett that gives him a better chance then Moore?

by B.B.Finnegan on Sep 2, 2009 5:33 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Forsett seems much quicker

I’ve seen very little of Moore to say that with any authority but I haven’t really seen any burst out of him.

by Nate Dogg on Sep 2, 2009 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It think it's the perfect example of the diference between football speed and track speed

Forsett is a shifty runner, able to get around you with agility and change of direction, Moore’s best shot is trying to run around or past you, which works in college, but not the pros unless you’re reeeeally fast.

by B.B.Finnegan on Sep 2, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As exemplified by

Reggie Bush

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Sep 2, 2009 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saints fans all recognize

that Reggie Bush is a very good if not great dump off receiver, not a real HB.

by Strictnine on Sep 3, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They might have very similar dimensions

and at first glance look to be the same size, but Forsett is built a little different than Moore. When I first saw Moore my initial thought was; “Damn, that kid is skinny!” I’ve never looked at Forsett and felt that way. Forsett seems to be built a bit thicker than Moore and it shows in his tackle breaking ability.

by Jo-Jo on Sep 2, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also heard that Forsett has been working on bulking up this past offseason

I forgot who it was, but one of the coaches was commenting on his powerful legs.

Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.

by ninjasocks on Sep 2, 2009 8:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought he had a good shot a beating out Forsett.

I was wrong.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevan Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Sep 2, 2009 9:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow...

Edna St. Vincent Millay?

Pretty obscure there, John. My CWU English Teaching degree was not adequate to pull her name from memory of study, or even from reference… had to google her.

Sounds like Kate Chopin the lesser, from the wiki.

Please, for the LOVE OF GOD, stop suggesting next year's 1st round pick (or picks) be used for Taylor Mays and or a QB of the future. Let's just let the season unfold, people, and evaluate much deeper in the process!!!

by whiskey chainsaw on Sep 2, 2009 10:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough..

it was a flippant “throw out” there… and always interesting reading your work!

Please, for the LOVE OF GOD, stop suggesting next year's 1st round pick (or picks) be used for Taylor Mays and or a QB of the future. Let's just let the season unfold, people, and evaluate much deeper in the process!!!

by whiskey chainsaw on Sep 3, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I need to use more emoticons

This is me being happy with your original comment =)

Here I am grateful that you even bothered to look up Millay : )

Was totally not ripping the Millay/Chopin comparison, just what passed through my mind..;^?*

*That’s me smoking crack from a light bulb.

by John Morgan on Sep 3, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

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