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Seahawks Face the Bad Part of a Good Problem (Part One: Roster Cuts)

Nick Reed is the fresh new face, but do you cut a proven regular season player and substantially better run defender like Baraka Atkins to retain him?

by Ted S. Warren - AP

Nick Reed is the fresh new face, but do you cut a proven regular season player and substantially better run defender like Baraka Atkins to retain him?

Seattle has too many talented defensive linemen. The most layered, deep and dynamic tackle and end rotation still could not offer enough snaps for the starters: Patrick Kerney, Colin Cole, Brandon Mebane and Cory Redding; the primary backups: Darryl Tapp, Red Bryant, Craig Terrill and Lawrence Jackson; and the super subs: Nick Reed, Michael Bennett and Baraka Atkins. Throw in Aaron Curry as a situational defensive end and Seattle has the numbers to field two starting defensive lines.

Too much talent is typically good, but Seattle's talent is too good to stash. Only Reed and Bennett have practice squad eligibility, and neither would pass through waivers unclaimed. The Seahawks own a good problem, but a problem nonetheless and problem it must unknot by tomorrow. It has three basic plays: Cut talent, lean on depth or attempt a trade.

If Seattle cuts talent it must decide which player is most dispensable. Terrill is a situational pass rusher that's been surpassed by Redding and likely Bennett. He only plays one position and only in one capacity. Terrill is 29 and entering the most expensive seasons of his contract. His $1.25 million base salary is not expensive relative to all defensive tackles, but expensive compared to tackles that play limited snaps as part of a rotation.

Terrill is a big part of the team and if expendable in a pure football sense, probably not expendable in an organizational sense. Cutting him is sensible but unlikely. Atkins would be the next likely target. A former fourth round pick now with two years experience, Atkins is a defensive end on a team overrunning with them. He is a lean, athletic project-pick that showed signs of turning the corner last season. His tools are miles ahead of Nick Reed's and better even than Michael Bennett's, but Atkins has never shown a sustained run of dominance like each has over the last four preseason games. Seattle is two deep at Atkins' position, left defensive end, but starter Redding is a free agent after this season and primary depth Jackson has yet to prove he should start. The team will likely keep Derek Walker on the practice squad, but Walker has proven valuable enough this preseason that he might be targeted by another team.

Seattle might be forced to cut someone, but it is clearly the least desirable of its options. If it cuts someone, it will likely cut Atkins and that's a bad play. The Seahawks drafted Atkins knowing his skills would take years to catch up to his tools. Dropping him after two seasons of growth, including a showing against the Patriots unmatched by Reed, Bennett or Jackson, would be aborting a near mature investment. Tim Ruskell and staff are considering this option, but only as a fallback.

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Are trades unlikely at this point?

Teams don’t have much leverage considering there’s a deadline and it’s looming. On the other hand, could a team do something like this:

1. Target a player to trade away. Let’s say it’s a DE.
2. Identify 5 teams that could/would likely target a DE after roster cuts.
3. Call the three teams that are #3, #4, and #5 on waiver priority and pull the “you likely won’t get this player because teams #1 and #2 also need a DE and are on higher priority than you, so let’s talk trade”.

Would this work?

The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.

by Nick Andron on Sep 4, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

or just ask for a 7th round pick?

teams might like the certainty of picking up a backup with upside, right?

by cro-mag! on Sep 4, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, Ruskell has done this.

Traded for a DE with Tenn (I think) in 2007? He’s done it a couple of other times too – none of the players have really stuck, but they do provide depth.

by Groundhog on Sep 4, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully they lean on depth

and go weak at a couple other positions. Because I don’t think it’s likely that we are going to get adequate returns on a trade. And there’s no way Reed/Bennett are passing through the waiver wire.

by Fear on Sep 4, 2009 12:03 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed, but 11 defensive linemen are too many with injury/depth concerns at other positions

Cutting Atkins would suck but watching Bennett get snatched off waivers and light it up for another team would be much worse. If TR can get anything at all for Baraka he’d be a hero but don’t see why a team would trade for him when it’s obvious somebody will have to be cut otherwise. Will be very interesting to see what they do at the deadline, and afterwards. I think they pick up an OL and go with 10 on both lines.

Two other notes:

1. Obo!
2. AARON motherfucking CURRY

by lemonverbena on Sep 4, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As much as I've enjoyed watching Nick Reed

If they can’t keep everybody, I think he’s the odd man out here. With Kerney, Tapp and Aaron Curry ahead of him as pash-rush specialists, there just might not be room.

Bennett has more versatility and probably more upside value, and there’s no way I’m going to cut Jackson or Atkins to keep Reed. Maybe they could get a 4th-round pick for Atkins, but even that represents a neutral return on investment.

Rob Rang mentioned on the radio yesterday that the Seahawks could maybe try to squeeze Reed through waivers since about half the league is playing a 3-4 and there just aren’t a ton of teams who would make room for an undersized rush end that’s only played a couple preseason games (albeit done quite a bit with those opportunities).

by busplunger on Sep 4, 2009 12:17 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He was like a late 7th-rounder, right?

I’d say that’s pretty much equivalent to an undrafted free agent.

I see him as similar to Forsett. They like him, they like what he can do in the preseason, they’d like to keep him, but if there’s a number crunch, he’s somewhat expendable due to the depth at his position and another team may grab him (for a couple weeks, anyway… then he’s back!).

by busplunger on Sep 4, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, Reed was taken with one of the two compensatory 7th-round picks

Which is pretty close to UFA. But as we saw with Coutu, Ruskell has a bit of pride when it comes to his picks, even the later rounds.

by lemonverbena on Sep 4, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reed was about 5 picks from the end

Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.

by ninjasocks on Sep 4, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why couldn't Reed play as a 3-4 OLB?

Isn’t that what you usually do with undersized DEs?

Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.

by ninjasocks on Sep 4, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wondered the same thing

But Rang’s opinion (apparently) is that he’s purely a 4-3 rush end.

by busplunger on Sep 4, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He seems like a Tapp type to me and looks like he could play 3-4 LB.

I might even be so bold to say that I think he’d excel in it given his smarts and good hands (just judging from that one interception).

by LantermanC on Sep 4, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And aren't haven't they been working with him in coverage?

He’s never going to be Lofa or Curry in coverage, but I can’t see why he couldn’t be a pretty good second-string/situational pass-rushing 3-4 OLB if he’s too small for a 4-3 DE.

Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.

by ninjasocks on Sep 4, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would love to see Terrill cut loose

I think Bennett could easily play that role as effectively while being younger and cheaper. I’m sick of seeing his “run defense”.

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Sep 4, 2009 12:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't see how Craig Terrill is a big part of the team...

First time commenter long time reader, fantastic site, great info, absolutely love it, much props.

I don’t see how they Seahawks can retain a player like Craig Terrill. He’s made a few timely plays that are very few and very far between but he’s a mediocre player at best who’s already peaked and is now on his way downhill. The Seahawks should cut bait on Terrill save some dough and keep Bennett & Walker. Reed to the practice squad if he clears waivers and if not good luck elsewhere. Just my opinion, but that locker room glue tag just because you walk around, stick a camera in your teammates faces, and play in a crappy band that the broadcast team happens to like and overplay before everygame is sooo overrated and can be done without and really not cost a single victory.

by Hawkmain on Sep 4, 2009 12:24 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Bennett and Walker? You must mean Atkins.

Other than that I agree. Being a great guy didn’t save Kaz, so maybe there’s hope TR cuts bait on Terrill.

by lemonverbena on Sep 4, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do

While its true Terrill seldom gets the sack or makes a showy play, he has been at the heart of the pile on defensive stops and has pressured the QB inside too many times not to consider him a tough football player who has value in this D line rotation.

I love Bennett as the heir-apparent to Terrill’s position, but Bennett has yet to prove it in the regular season.

by Stevo's on Sep 4, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to the site, Hawkmain

I agree with your comment in general although I think Walker is PS material.

Beverly Hills 90210.......Denver Broncos 7.

by SSreporters on Sep 4, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Picking up on various points above, and a couple other thoughts

1. Can I get definitions for “tools” vs. “skills”? Folks on this site use them both, but I’m not certain the distinction between them remains consistent, as “toolsy” often seems to me to be referring to something that I would expect “skillsy” to mean.

2. Do intangibles count as tools, skills, or something else? Because Nick Reed just led the entire NFL in preseason sacks, and if he hasn’t got skills or tools, I’d like to know what it is people think he does have.

3. I know this will get me run out of town on a rail (or it would, if I lived in town), but the awesomeness of our front seven (and their backups) has me fantasizing about a blockbuster trade involving, perhaps, Tatupu and one of our ends, for an elite S and/or OL and/or CB.

by dagraham on Sep 4, 2009 12:40 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Tools are inherent physical traits

Skills are the ability to play football.

by John Morgan on Sep 4, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Intangibles are bogus

Nick Reed is a sensationally skilled football player.

by John Morgan on Sep 4, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

can't speak for everyone, but this is how I interpret tools vs skills

tools are a player’s raw physical attributes. skills refer to their technique and how they utilize their tools.

So, Atkins has great physical tools, but isn’t refined. Reed doesn’t have great tools but has a lot of natural skill and can get the most out of his limited abilities.

"I'm tired of chasing after my dreams. I'll just find out where they're going, and catch up later." - Hedberg

by jteckmann on Sep 4, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Jordan Kent defines tools

Size, speed, big hands, quickness.

But hasn’t been able to use them effectively. Maybe someday. . .

by Kryten on Sep 4, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's one major tool he's missing

Actual catching ability.

Beverly Hills 90210.......Denver Broncos 7.

by SSreporters on Sep 4, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That'd be a skill, not a tool.

As per Our Fearless Leader above.

by thebyron on Sep 8, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great post, John

You nailed it. Its Terrill or Bennett to back up at 3-tech DT? Atkins or Jackson or both to back up at LDE? Keeping all these guys seems a little unrealistic when we think about all the healing injuries in our O linemen and WRs, and our lack of depth in the DBs.

Bennett has shown too much potential to cut him. Lawrence Jackson had shown enough potential (at least to some people) to draft him in the first round and play him most of last season. Keeping Terrill and Bennett (along with Mebane, Cole, Bryant) gives us five DTs. Keeping Jackson and Atkins (along with Kerney, Tapp, Redding, Reed) gives us six DEs.

I think the odds say Baraka Atkins is the odd man out.

by Stevo's on Sep 4, 2009 12:44 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it a fact that

Lawrence Jacksons tools are superior to Baraka Atkins tools, however Baraka Atkins skills are showing more than Jacksons?

If so, do we simply hold onto Lawrence Jackson due to pedigree?

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Sep 4, 2009 12:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I would rate Jacksons' tools a step above Atkins

Fans should not give up on Jackson, he’s young, was productive at a major program and very athletic. At worst, Seattle could bulk him into a defensive tackle and have a better player than Terrill.

by John Morgan on Sep 4, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That

And it’s only his 2nd year. It’s not like he’s a Kelly Jennings where we are still waiting for him to actually do something in year 4.

Beverly Hills 90210.......Denver Broncos 7.

by SSreporters on Sep 4, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair, Jennings looked decent in his 2nd year.

And Mario Williams looked bad his 1st year (supposedly).

by LantermanC on Sep 4, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jennings was average in his 2nd year

Then again that’s when we were chewing out Babs for sucking.

Beverly Hills 90210.......Denver Broncos 7.

by SSreporters on Sep 4, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jennings is not hopeless

he could still develop. A team can’t rely on that though.

by John Morgan on Sep 4, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except

Mario showed some flashes and a lot of ‘almost got there’. You could see him on the field, he just looked raw .

by Strictnine on Sep 4, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LoJack seems a great example of better tools than skills

Skills can be built (sometimes). Jackson can build them.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Sep 4, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Way premature to give up on Jackson.

I don’t understand the Jackson hating.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevan Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Sep 5, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

Watch him in a game

by rex92 on Sep 5, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watch him 1-2 years from now in a game.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevan Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Sep 5, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What did you think of Red Bryant?

John, I’d be really interested to hear your dissection of tape on Red Bryant. He played more in the Oakland game than I’ve ever seen him play before. At times he impressed me with his quickness for such a big man. At other times he gets blocked out of the play and looks like he is playing too high to hold leverage maybe? I love this guy but I don’t yet see the dominance I was hoping to see. What do you see?

by Stevo's on Sep 4, 2009 12:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I know that I didn't want to see him playing as much in the second half as he did

and I was pissed the coaching staff had him in in the 4th quarter. I think he’s played very well this preseason and is a huge piece of this defense this year. I was cringing the entire second half with him on the field.

by Jo-Jo on Sep 4, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sometimes the other players are slightly banged up

and sometimes someone’s just itchin to stay in… either of these combined with the coaches wanting to see something or wanting to him reps to learn something…

by Strictnine on Sep 4, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I almost never see Bryant blocked out of a play

he’ll absorb a double team, be he’s not skating into the third level like Colin Cole. Just holding ground on a double team is a win. Not everyone can be Brandon Mebane.

But I’ll give him more looks. I’ve been impressed.

by John Morgan on Sep 4, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Bryant did fine last night.

He played a hell of a lot of snaps but maybe that’s what the staff needed to see.

by Seahawka 12th on Sep 4, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A skosh more skill to go with his tools and the sky's the limit.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevan Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Sep 5, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like at least some others...

I think Terrill has the weakest claim on a roster spot if thinning must be done on the DL. I don’t completely discount the importance of a given player to the organization beyond what’s done on the field. However, it would seem that between Kerney and ‘Bane I don’t think Seattle is lacking in that area.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Sep 4, 2009 1:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

One other thing...

If you have to get “stuck” with an excess of talent in one unit you probably want that unit to be the DL. The ability to rotate people, especially if they can play multiple positions, allows you to protect a thin (and weak) secondary.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Sep 4, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say it still is

We still don’t know how well our “starters” (Mebane, Kerney, Tapp, Redding) will perform in games that count or how well they’ll hold up over the course of a season. Kerney had a slow start to 2007 (when he ended up 2nd in the league for sacks) and faster in 2008 (when he ended up on IR). Mebane may have difficulities transitioning from the 1-tech to the 3-tech. Tapp may struggle and plateau or decline. Redding may be mediocre or injured.

Our backups looked great in the preseason, but we still don’t know how the DL will function as a unit in regular season play.

Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.

by ninjasocks on Sep 4, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kerney didn't have a slow start

He was equally productive early and late in the season. Sacks are only a broad measure of pass pressure.

by John Morgan on Sep 4, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In 2007 he had 3.5 sacks through October (first 7 games).

He had 11 sacks from November through December (last 9 games).

I don’t disagree that sacks are an imperfect measure of pass rush production (small sample size, role of other rushers + QB scrambling, etc), but I’m at a loss for any other statistical measure that may be more appropriate.

Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.

by ninjasocks on Sep 4, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was going up against some very good tackles early in the season.

I remember after week 6 or so of the 2007 season Football Outsiders put out an article which had the league leaders in “QB hits” and “QB pressures” and Kerney was among the leaders. As he started facing lesser tackles his pressures became sacks.

by MFAN on Sep 4, 2009 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The first seven games

we played the Bucs, the Cards, the Bengals, the Niners, the Steelers, the Saints and the Rams. I don’t remember those teams very well, but I also don’t remember them having very good tackles (and Pace only played one game that year).

The QB hits and QB pressure stats definitely help fill out the picture, though.

Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.

by ninjasocks on Sep 4, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is probably true

Grain of salt and all that

Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.

by ninjasocks on Sep 4, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The flip side is that our memories are very mutable

our impressions of players are often skewed and the stats are written in stone.

Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.

by ninjasocks on Sep 4, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love our d-line, and I would hate to see us let go of Atkins, Bennett, or even Terrill

just so we could have Kevin Hobbs or someone like that make the team. Worst case scenario with our 11 man defense is that we have to trade one of them for a 7th rounder and sign some random FA CB that is cut who is bound to be better than Hobbs. Hopefully we can swing a trade with Terrill or Atkins for a decent dime/nickelback type CB.

by LantermanC on Sep 4, 2009 1:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Am I the only one who likes Terrill?

I always thought of him as a cheap, average to slighty above-average player. I dunno, maybe I’m just crazy.

A Mariners fan in Seattle

by Coach Owens on Sep 4, 2009 1:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

He's not bad

But when you look at what Seattle has, he has the least potential and makes the most money for what he does.

by John Morgan on Sep 4, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

potential vs production

I think that’s exactly right, Terrill’s potential is limited at this point. That said, he has be productive and dependable in his role. So are we ready to cut production in favor of potential??

Its time to call the question: are we really going to keep BOTH Lawrence Jackson and Baraka Atkins for their potential?

by Stevo's on Sep 4, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why wouldn't Seattle?

Both can contribute as rotational players and both have good potential.

by John Morgan on Sep 4, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

because of Reed and Bennett

Reed, Bennett, Jackson, and Atkins are all guys who have potential but haven’t proven themselves yet. Reed and Bennett, if kept, deserve time to develop. Jackson and Atkins have had some time and need to show something now. Seems like a situation that calls for a tough decision from the coaches.

The scenario that makes sense to me for keeping all four of these guys is to start Reed and Bennett on the 53 roster now, and then stash one or both on the practice squad after three or more weeks. If that’s the plan, then keeping Jackson and Atkins would make sense.

by Stevo's on Sep 4, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Depends on your definition of average (half joking).

I liked him before. Cheap and he seems to break through the line every once in a while, but he is what he is, and I don’t think he’s going to get much better.
Bennett and Atkins can be much better, and are both currently cheaper. Plus neither are so bad right now that we couldn’t expect comparable results to Terrill this year.

by LantermanC on Sep 4, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's the weakest link in the defensive line.

He’s not really cheap, nor is he average to above average. He’s lurked on the roster because of his “locker room” schtick and veteranositymanship, not unlike Brian Russell.

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Sep 4, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he's turning quickly into the new Brian Russell

All of a sudden he gets a bad rep and then everyone wants to run him out of town with pitchforks and torches. At least Terrill isn’t starting.

Brett Favre is the Kenny Powers of football.

by ninjasocks on Sep 4, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, he's not starting,

but when he plays he’s consistently mediocre. This team needs to cut dead weight if it wants to win.

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

GTFO, Craig Terrill.

by Wayward Llama on Sep 5, 2009 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mediocre?

You’re too kind.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Jevan Snead, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling 6'2, 200, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Sep 5, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okay, I'm trying really hard to be calm here, but

WHY THE F*CK DO WE NEED TO KEEP A WORTHLESS 3RD TIGHT END LIKE JOE NEWTON AROUND, AT THE EXPENSIVE OF A VASTLY SUPERIOR PLAYER AT DEFENSIVE TACKLE OR END?! IS HAVE A 3RD TE SO F*CKING VITAL THAT WE HAVE TO EVEN DISCUSS THIS?!?

I do acknowledge, of course, that there may be legitimate reasons for keeping Newton around, and it’s not like the Seahawks will hear my impassioned screams from here, anyway. Also, Craig Terrill is too old, expensive, one-demensional and overall replaceable to keep around. I would be in favor of trading one of our extra DT/DE’s for a 2010 draft pick, though.

by J.L. White on Sep 4, 2009 3:46 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

The two tight end set is their base package.

Not having depth at tight end is ludicrous.

by John Morgan on Sep 4, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uhm, wow.

Lots and lots of caps is what I gathered from this.

Please, for the LOVE OF GOD, stop suggesting next year's 1st round pick (or picks) be used for Taylor Mays and or a QB of the future. Let's just let the season unfold, people, and evaluate much deeper in the process!!!

by whiskey chainsaw on Sep 4, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What happens if one of our TEs gets injured?

Also, backup TEs are used in goal-line situations and often on special teams too

by rex92 on Sep 5, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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