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It's Official: Seahawks Announce Carroll As Head Coach


O'Neil at the Times with the story and some quotes.

The LA Times also has an interview up with Pete Carroll, the first since his resignation from USC. 

The most important thing to note is that (like we've been hearing for a few days now) Carroll has been given the title of head coach and not a dual team president role. According to Tod Leiweke, the search is still ongoing for a new general manager.From all indications, the GM and head coach will continue to be  separate roles within the organization, and that's good news. Carroll will likely have final say over who makes the 53-man roster, but will not have drafting, trading, and free agent signing responsibilities within the front office.

The team has their head coach, now they set their sights on a general manager. Let perhaps the most pivotal off-season in franchise history continue.

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I hope he brings out some Throwbacks.

That’s what I really want. They’re my Madden uni of choice.

by DJ C-Raig on Jan 11, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

If I never see the name

Branch on the back of a Hawk jersey again, I will be alright!
The concepts jersey is pretty sick!

by HawkedUp on Jan 11, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm down...

if we swap out Royal Blue for the Rental Car Blue.

by TheLaird on Jan 11, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I like everything but two uniforms

Lime neon green. NEVER AGAIN

And the ALL Blue. I love the color but we need to mix it with different colored pants or vice versa. All Blue looks like jam jams. I think we look stupid to the rest of the league and it’s fans.

Mix and match with Seahawk Blue, Sliver, Seahawk Green, other kinds of Seattle style blue and green and go mad.

by Emperor_Doom on Jan 11, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Jam Jams....

That’s funny. I agree that we need to mix it up. I don’t really care what other people think around the league… but I’m tired of the Naked Smurf look.

I saw a Kelly Jennings INT.......really....

by The Manchild on Jan 12, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I still wish that they'd gone with this scheme in '02.

I’ve never been a huge fan of the blue pants (except with the road jerseys) or even the blue helmet. I wish they could’ve keep the silver.

And as for the green unis, I don’t care if I never see them again.

Chad Brown for the Ring of Honor!

by Big Seahawk Loser on Jan 11, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Now THAT, I like!

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 11, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I want Throwbacks sooo bad!!

Never was that into the green look myself. But throwbacks would be a dream come true.

by Alec_Mac on Jan 11, 2010 1:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Same here

I don’t know what my reaslistic hopes for the team are but I can definitely be optimistic at this point.

by Nate Dogg on Jan 11, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I am pretty excited as well

I really have hope for the future of this team.

What? No SOUL?

by mrcoffee1969 on Jan 11, 2010 6:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Staff

I hope some of the rumors of his staff are true. We not only need a good coach but good people around him. Lets get them in place and a new GM so they can start evaluating what we have and what we need to start getting this team headed in the right direction. It will be an interesting next few months.

by eohawkfan on Jan 11, 2010 12:08 PM PST reply actions  

Personally I'm somewhat excited about Bates and Ken Norton Jr.

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Jan 11, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't Knock

Norton Jr. The man knows his stuff … just look at every LB that has come out of USC. We can look at our very own Tatupu, then there is C. Matthews and B. Cushings this year.

by cthunder on Jan 11, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

all GM interviews are Tuesday and Wednesday

It seems that we should hear about the GM by the end of the week or early next week? Very excited about Carroll as head coach only and all the GM candidates seem very qualified. Bright times ahead.

by Hancock.Brett on Jan 11, 2010 12:09 PM PST reply actions  

so far

Ross – Giants/Eagles scout and player guy
Schneider – Packers head of ops
Omar (forgot last name) – Stealers cap guru
Reese – Patriots senior advisor

I believe thats it.

by Hancock.Brett on Jan 11, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

If bringing in PC means he brings in Ken Norton Jr.

Then so be it. Norton Anti-Suckus (it’s a stretch, I know) should mold Curry well.

by DJ C-Raig on Jan 11, 2010 12:09 PM PST reply actions  

I grew up in Dallas and watched Norton as teenager

he’s freakin’ bad ass! That would be a great for our bad ass linebacking corps.

by Generzal Zod on Jan 11, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Such dirtbags all 'round.

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Jan 12, 2010 12:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Now Marc Ross please

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Jan 11, 2010 12:10 PM PST reply actions  

What's everybody's thoughts on Pete Carroll as defensive guru?

I remember that was the tag on Jim Mora and yet everything he touched here defensively turned to suck.

Carroll’s USC defenses were usually pretty good, but I don’t know if that was just the level of talent being so much higher as opposed to scheme.

"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch

by crushedoptimist on Jan 11, 2010 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

my take

Mora’s “idea” of not blitzing Warner, Manning, or any other decent QB because he worried about getting passed on was idiotic. The front four didn’t create pressure all year, why would that even be an option. He hardly used Red Bryant over Craig Terrill even when the season didn’t matter and the defense didn’t play well in the last half of the year. Although the offense was terrible all year I don’t think it’s going to be difficult to have a better defense then Moras.

by Hancock.Brett on Jan 11, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

good points

it just appeared that we really had no plan…..ever.

by Hancock.Brett on Jan 11, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I absolutely agree.

GB had a plan, it just wasn’t working and they didn’t adapt. We just kind of stood around in our zones watching as the receiver went by.

by DJ C-Raig on Jan 11, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Seattle had a plan

and it worked better against Warner than what a top ten defense planned.

by John Morgan on Jan 11, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I've forgotten about the game @Arizona

I remember Warner looking slightly off in the first half, missing throws, and in general not playing in god mode. Was that more a product of an off half from Warner or a good gameplan on our part?

by Hancock.Brett on Jan 11, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

USC defences were 'bend not break'

But not to be confused with John Marshall’s bend, bend, bend, break defences here.

I find it hard to imagine that all of those 1st and 2nd round ex-USC linebackers were simply all talent with coaching adding no value. Like some others on here, I’m excited to see the LB coach come (if he does).

by JamesMurphy on Jan 11, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

The weird thing to me

is that while him not being the president is a good thing, it’s also indicative of bad things. I guess I should just look at it as Leiweke is the guy in charge of both the coach and the GM, but will this enable an undercutting of one or the other’s authority a bit by one not being the choice of the other? Like if If we brought in a prez, who kept Mora. Mora would be a bit of a lame duck, right? So what happens with this?

It’s also indicative of a rather hamfisted handling of everything. Firing the coach a little late, but premature with no president or GM in place. And then hiring Carroll, not rushed but premature if we’re still going to get a prez and GM.

Or are we only going to hire a GM? I don’t know. With Carroll being a bit of a gamble, and appreciating the flatter and fuller org structure than having one guy with all the titles calling all the shots, I can understand why you guys are thankful that he’s not also the president. But really, his not being the president creates more baggage for the hire since the cart was put a little before the horse with the front office not solidified yet.

by jacobstevens on Jan 11, 2010 12:19 PM PST reply actions  

This is one scary new era

The problem with Carroll is I really don’t see what he brings new to the table as a NFL coach. This can really become an unmitigated disaster — especially if don’t select the right General Manager.

by aerozeppelin on Jan 11, 2010 12:30 PM PST reply actions  

Plus, I think most GM's wouldn't want to be in a position

where an unproven headcoach has already been given an extravagant 5-year-contract. I’m sure that may be one of the reasons DeCosta and Heckert both took their names out of GM consideration.

by aerozeppelin on Jan 11, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

John mentioned it in another thread

but DeCosta might just want to stay in Baltimore. I think that team has a serious chance to compete for a title for the next 5-6 years, scary good. Heckert bailing was a bummer but who knows how much control he actually had in Philly.

by Hancock.Brett on Jan 11, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Wouldn't surprise me.

They looked awesome against NE. Imagine how good they’ll be if they get another legit WR!

by thebyron on Jan 12, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Well his attitude and management style is obviously being seen as an asset

and whether you like player coaches or not it’s definitely something Carroll excels at. I think if any NFL team is going to be able to find value in his recruiting abilities it’s Seattle (or Green Bay), but I really don’t think thats worth much. He’s shown the ability to be very adaptable with both his defense and offense in college, although his players were so much better than everyone elses it’s hard to tell how much his apdatations mattered. His NFL pedigree is good if not ancient.

Now that he’s not going to be president or GM, and barring his gets a crony to man those spots, theres little reason to thing this will absolutely bomb. The Hawks may get mired in mediocrity, like Carroll’s Pats teams, but thats probably as bad as it gets.

There were a lot of better ways for the Hawks to go, and I would have much rather seen a GM put in place before the coach, but this move isn’t jump off a cliff bad.

by Nate Dogg on Jan 11, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

You're probably right.

In a way this puts the decision on QB back at the top of the list for what will determine the success of the team with this regime.

by jacobstevens on Jan 11, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

My guess is they are going to work together.

The GM will probably have the final say, but Carroll will still have a large voice in personal decisions.

by MFAN on Jan 11, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I think all it means is that the GM is in charge of the draft

but Carroll doesn’t necessarily have to add all the GM’s picks to the 53-man. (Obviously, that’s within some reasonable limits.)

Carroll gets input and the GM can’t fire him.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jan 11, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I like it

If he is just the coach, then I am all for it. My real concern is the GM spot.

by shumagorath on Jan 11, 2010 12:47 PM PST reply actions  

In defense of cautious optimism

I’m not sure what I think until I start seeing W’s or L’s. But here’s a couple thoughts I’ve had:

1. Pete Carroll’s USC decade of dominance took place since his humbling banishment from the NFL ten years ago. So maybe this means he’s older and wiser (a Seattle Times story suggests he’s aware of several things he could have done better in the NFL).

2. The declining win totals at New England following the Pats’ Super Bowl appearance don’t tell us much unless we establish that the Pats weren’t suffering from “built to win last year” syndrome. Per Lawyer Milloy (or was it Bledsoe?) in that Times story, the Pats had a run of bad luck with draft pick busts around that time, too. The long slow decline has been the Seahawks’ trajectory since SB XL, too, and personnel is definitely part of the story. (So here’s to getting a great GM!)

by dagraham on Jan 11, 2010 1:04 PM PST reply actions  

bahaha

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett

All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.

by Wayward Llama on Jan 11, 2010 1:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I follow you on (1) but not (2)

I think the amount of skills fungibility b/w college and pro-ball coaching is probably more than zero, and—the sucky BCS system notwithstanding—I think USC’s championships and near-championships tell us something meaningful about Carroll’s ability to field and maintain a winning team. Recruiting is part of it—and I think it’s possible-to-likely that Carroll’s coattails could help us out a lot in FA—but my guess is that the guy’s not a total idiot as a coach, either.

Not sure what the “best shape of my life” comment references. Is it a roundabout likening of Carroll to Mora b/c they’re both physically fit “players’ coaches”? If so, then I will say (1) maybe not all players’ coaches are the same, and maybe PC is able to help the Seahawks absorb a few red-flag players w/o leading to locker room problems, and (2) if he leads his players up Tiger Mountain, I will join you in calling for his immediate dismissal.

To be clear, I’m not a fan of the process by which this has been done. The order of operations (coach before GM) seems fishy, and I’m not at all convinced they thoroughly vetted all the avaiable coaching talent before leaping at Carroll. But just because the FO doesn’t know what it’s doing doesn’t mean Carroll will suck.

by dagraham on Jan 11, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

And science suggests optimists live more happily than pessimists/realists

I’d rather spend the next eight months being cautiously optimistic, or at least wait-and-see, than pulling my hair out.

by dagraham on Jan 11, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

"Best shape of my life" is code for media bullshit

I don’t remember saying anything negative about Carroll the coach. I was angry he was reportedly to be hired as coach and GM. Frankly, I feel vindicated.

by John Morgan on Jan 11, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm kinda ticked about the reporting...

It seems like the coach/GM title was predicated exclusively on the original LA Times story, which was speculative. (I don’t think it appeared in the Chris Mortenson story on ESPN.) It was basically, “Carroll has turned down other NFL overtures because he couldn’t get control, therefore Seattle is offering complete control.” That found its way into the echo chamber and became fact.

I still don’t know that Seattle ever offered Carroll the position of Grand Poobah.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jan 11, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for clarifying

about the media bullshit reference. Yes, clearly. Folks may take umbrage at this, but I have said before that I don’t think of (99% of) sports reporting as journalism. It’s its own beast. It’s kind of of like war reportage in that all the “facts” must generally be presented within a “support the troops/team” framework. Unless you’re doing your war/sports reportage from the pages of the New Yorker.

I interpreted your title—“Mora was aware of several things he could have done better in the NFL”—as a slight against Carroll as opposed to a knock on the starry-eyed media treatment. Anyway, I think PC’s USC success lends the “I’ve learned some things” narrative more plausibility than was the case for Mora.

by dagraham on Jan 11, 2010 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugh

I need to mainline coffee today. My body is sick of the abuse.

by John Morgan on Jan 11, 2010 2:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Correction, second best way

The best way is to have your RN friend hook you up to a saline IV. It’s like the miracle drug.

by DJ C-Raig on Jan 11, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

The key, it seems to me...

is whether Carroll and the revamped front office recognize where this team is right now, and what kind of rebuilding job it has in store.

Mainly, will the braintrust give Matt a key to the city, a pat on the back, and then go out and get a young QB to groom (and an offensive line to go with him)?

There is plenty of reason to think that Carroll the coach will want to make changes at the margins rather than wholesale changes; his own age, the size of his contract, his desire to re-write his own coaching legacy.

That’s why having a GM (let’s go Ross!) who can build a roster is so key.

I feel in many ways that Carroll is the more mature version of Jim Mora. Hopefully, we can find a more complete version of Tim Ruskell.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jan 11, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Mortensen was reporting it along with everyone else

I believe it was true. I think Carroll was offered the head coach and President role and then something changed.

by John Morgan on Jan 11, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Woops

replied in the wrong spot. Nevertheless.

by John Morgan on Jan 11, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of...

What happened to your buddy Pat Kirwan? I thought the fix was in? :)

by TheLaird on Jan 11, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

And then changed back?

Link

Would be nice to have an explanation of what VP of Football Operations means, in relation to the GM, free agency, the draft, and personnel decisions beyond “final say over the 53-man roster.”

by jacobstevens on Jan 11, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Welcome to the Seahawks, Pete.

You’ve just guaranteed us nationally televised games and some serious media coverage. Don’t blow it.

Matt Hasselbeck's satellite TV signals would get intercepted.

by SSreporters on Jan 11, 2010 1:44 PM PST reply actions  

This crossed my mind as well.

I can’t help but love seeing the Seahawks logo in the lead story on ESPN.

by Alec_Mac on Jan 11, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I am incredibly happy it's "Coach Carroll"

not “Coach/GM/President Carroll.”

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett

All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.

by Wayward Llama on Jan 11, 2010 1:51 PM PST reply actions  

Pretty good article about the four interviewees for GM

http://sea.scout.com/2/936935.html

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett

All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.

by Wayward Llama on Jan 11, 2010 1:56 PM PST reply actions  

Good read.

I’m excited about all the candidates. I like Schneider and Kahn the best.

by Misfit74 on Jan 11, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously?

I think they’re fucking awesome

6/14/40. Sweet.

by Nick Andron on Jan 11, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

They are so very, very bad.

Want to see a good drumline? Try and find some video of the Concord Blue Devils.

by BrianL on Jan 11, 2010 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm with ya

One of my favorite parts of going to the game, I especially like to get there early to see them.

I guess I just don’t know enough about drummers to be a snob about it :)

by GarethLewin on Jan 11, 2010 10:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I think they're good for what they are

Open auditions every season, limited practices, perform 9-10 times a year, they don’t get paid, their perk is getting some free schwag and good seats for the home games. Limited opportunities for travel, and they don’t perform in any competitions. It’s not the kind of gig that’s going to attract elite talent. Most the guys have some former high school/college drumline experience but that’s about it. I think the main thing they’re lacking is creativity – I think they play about 5-6 different pieces throughout a game.

"I'm tired of chasing after my dreams. I'll just find out where they're going, and catch up later." - Hedberg

by jteckmann on Jan 12, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

They make me angry

When they are acting so happy and the Hawks are getting killed on the field. Maybe they should learn Taps for such occasions.

by TrashiDawa on Jan 11, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

As a former member of the TMB

I will attest to how wrong you are. PC loved the band.

[DELETED ZOMG NO POLITICS]

by bluemax on Jan 11, 2010 2:32 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

How fucking awesome would it be if Seattle had a band?

Is there some rule against this?

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett

All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.

by Wayward Llama on Jan 11, 2010 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

There's a hornline/pep band thing

That I think plays at Sounders games. I stood right in front of them at the Auburn Veteran’s Day parade. Their second song was Knights of Cydonia…AWESOOOOOOME.

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Jan 12, 2010 12:34 AM PST up reply actions  

The Seahawks used to have a pep band in the Kingdome days.

It was a bunch of balding white guys that played elevator music jazz. Like many other things about the 90’s "Hawks, it was horrible.

"I'm tired of chasing after my dreams. I'll just find out where they're going, and catch up later." - Hedberg

by jteckmann on Jan 12, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

This morning KJR was blasting the Hawks for making the move to Fire mora and bring in Carroll

I bet by training camp Carroll will have the local media eating out of his hands and sleeping at his feet.

by Alec_Mac on Jan 11, 2010 2:37 PM PST reply actions  

Mike Holmgren?

Matt Hasselbeck's satellite TV signals would get intercepted.

by SSreporters on Jan 11, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Already had that show.

Why do you think they foamed at the mouth, screaming for Holmgren to be named Grand Overlord of Seahawks Football?

by BrianL on Jan 11, 2010 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Matt Hasselbeck threw 8 INTs...that's not on Matt.

Matt Hasselbeck's satellite TV signals would get intercepted.

by SSreporters on Jan 11, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

rec'd

I practically drove my car off the road while listening to that. “Matt is fine”

by Hancock.Brett on Jan 11, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Shaun doesn't suck...it's the offensive line.

(Watches Morris run for 157 yards with same line.)

Denial is the Seattle sports media’s biggest problem.

Matt Hasselbeck's satellite TV signals would get intercepted.

by SSreporters on Jan 11, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

It's every city though

Shaun Alexander was a big name draw if you could interview him. I watched the Dallas media defend Aikman and Smith long after the team should have moved on.

by Generzal Zod on Jan 11, 2010 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Philadelphia. New York. Boom!

Matt Hasselbeck's satellite TV signals would get intercepted.

by SSreporters on Jan 12, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Probably true. The only guy I like these days is Kevin Calabro. KJR can suck it.

Enough with the pining over Holmgren! Its over! Let it Go! Lets all just move on with our lives!

by Alec_Mac on Jan 11, 2010 3:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes I can't believe how much I have come to hate KJR

I used to think they were good, then okay, then not so good, and now I want to stab my hearing holes every time I hear a clip from them.

by DJ C-Raig on Jan 11, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Their sycophantic "journalism" drives me nuts

How can you afford to report news like that when people have so many other options open to them? I guess they appeal to a certain sect of Seattle fandom that does not want to hear negative things. They are the biased news network of Seattle sports radio. Like Fox or something.

by DJ C-Raig on Jan 11, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions  

The bias/homerism/Hasselbeck love or whatever

doesn’t bother me nearly as much as the fact that there is just plain no substance to the shows. David Locke was abrasive and not fun to listen to, but he was the only one with substance. Mitch makes for a good listen, but the substance is meh. The rest only have their personalities going for them.

Brock & Salk are very good, in substance, presentation, entertainment. Calabro/Wyman are better in the latter two, but not as great with substance.

by jacobstevens on Jan 11, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah 1080 in Portland is way better

I live in Bend and I pick up the Spokane feed of KJR and I have to admit it really sucks. You guys should try to pick up our afternoon guys, I like them enough to plug them on here.

by Generzal Zod on Jan 11, 2010 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Love love love this move.

Carroll is just a guy that emanates joy and enthusiasm. He’s like a kid out there. Hope it works out for the very best.

Husky hoops is depressing.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Jan 11, 2010 3:29 PM PST reply actions  

Or maybe he'll fully replace him with Jason Campbell

First time posting, but I have enjoyed reading the articles and discussion after the articles. I haven’t read all of them, unfortunately, so I’m not fully informed on how the Field Gulls nation feels about Campbell. From his numbers, seems like he would be a good replacement with a 64.5% completion percentage. Stick him behind a good line……oh wait that’s where my thinking goes off track. Ok, so they are going to replace the O-line and then get a quarterback. I would like a vet (younger and cheaper than Matt) for this year, not too sold on all the prospects coming out in this draft.

by seattle_since_81 on Jan 11, 2010 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Welcome to FG!

Campbell was a favorite for awhile, but he’ll probably be retained by Washington now.

by DJ C-Raig on Jan 11, 2010 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Shanahan seemed to like Campbell

I think that he’ll stick with him. Carroll will either draft Clausen who he recruited the hell out of or he’ll make a move for one of his old players.

by Generzal Zod on Jan 11, 2010 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Welcome!

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Jan 12, 2010 12:43 AM PST up reply actions  

No.

Next Matt gets a bionic heart.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 11, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

There was a rumor that Carroll was going to make a move for Leinart

I don’t know how I feel about this. It stinks of Jimmy Johnson wanting Steve Walsh over Troy Aikman at first, except they didn’t have to spend a season dealing with it. Anyone know Carson Palmer’s contract status?

by Generzal Zod on Jan 11, 2010 7:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't want him - just thinking

Carroll really like Clausen when recruiting him – I wouldn’t be shocked if he made a play for him.

by Generzal Zod on Jan 11, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Have we signed Kirwan yet?

I was told that we were gonna get a Carroll-Kirwan package, and I’m wondering, “Where’s the other half of the package???”

I’ve got a fever, and the only prescription is more Pat Kirwan!

:o)

by TheLaird on Jan 11, 2010 4:03 PM PST reply actions  

That was such a bad joke I'm tempted to flag this.

Matt Hasselbeck's satellite TV signals would get intercepted.

by SSreporters on Jan 11, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

hahaha

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett

All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.

by Wayward Llama on Jan 11, 2010 5:29 PM PST up reply actions  

So here's my question,

is carroll gonna keep the west coast offense going, or bring in his own kind of offense? Id personally like to see something different, even if it means givin Hasselbeck the shaft.

by Matt R on Jan 11, 2010 4:15 PM PST reply actions  

Bates is a WCO guy. He was with Cutler and Shannahan in Denver.

Per rotoworld:
Jeremy Bates will coordinate the offense with a West Coast approach, using similar terminology to ex-OC Greg Knapp’s.

Let’s hope “playaction pass to the fullback” isn’t in his terminology.

by Culter on Jan 11, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Shannahan's offense and coordinators was never his issue

it was his cancerous personality and lack of defense…in other words I think I can live with that.

by Generzal Zod on Jan 11, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Matt gave himself the shaft

By sucking so bad for the last two seasons, I hope PC kicks him out.

by A'Seahawks_Warriors on Jan 11, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree the guy is done

nothing personal – thanks we have appreciated having you and your sacrificing yourself for the team the last few years bit sorry this is the NFL and it is a harsh and cruel business.

by Generzal Zod on Jan 11, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

There was talk here that Carroll's arrival would mean a 3-4 defense.

Are we still operating under that assumption?

From Rotoworld:
“Carroll, 58, runs a Tampa-2 style defense like the one already in place under Jim Mora, so not much will change on that side of the ball.”

by Culter on Jan 11, 2010 4:19 PM PST reply actions  

We'll see

Carroll doesn’t run a 3-4, but Walker has.

by John Morgan on Jan 11, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Thx.

I’d shit a purple Twinkie if we switched to a 3-4.

by Misfit74 on Jan 11, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I really think Walker is a 4-3 guy
Defense – It’s no surprise that the program went after a defensive coach after watching the Aggies allow 34.1 points per game (105th nationally) in 2008. Walker will waste no time putting his stamp on this side of the ball, changing from a 3-3-5 scheme to a more traditional 4-3 defense.

http://www.betfirms.com/mexico-state-2009-football-predictions/

by B.B.Finnegan on Jan 11, 2010 5:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't see it

that is a two or three year transition and I think Allen wants to have Carroll make an immediate splash.

by Generzal Zod on Jan 11, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

The rotoworld statement isn't accurate.

Carroll’s said he’s always run a 4-3 Under. One of the integral components to what I always thought was going to be the “West Coast Defense.” Mora had said our base would be 4-3 Over, in the first presser after drafting Curry. We saw it as a occasional wrinkle, no more.

by jacobstevens on Jan 11, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm watching PC's presser

And looking absently at his face as he talks, and suddenly I’m reminded of Christopher Mintz-Plasse (McLovin). Pete Carroll looks like his athletic father or uncle. Watch ‘til he starts talking about whether he can say the names of this year’s freshman class.

by DJ C-Raig on Jan 11, 2010 4:49 PM PST reply actions  

Best part of Leiweke's press conference:

“We won nine games the last two years and with all due respect, four of those were to the St. Louis Rams,” Leiweke said, “And that’s not acceptable to our fans, it’s not acceptable to Mr. Allen, and it certainly isn’t acceptable to me.”

With all due respect…

by Culter on Jan 11, 2010 5:06 PM PST reply actions  

very nice

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett

All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.

by Wayward Llama on Jan 11, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

where can i find that, by the way?

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett

All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.

by Wayward Llama on Jan 11, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett

All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.

by Wayward Llama on Jan 11, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if Pats fans

felt the same way after they learned Belichick was gonna be their head coach. Belichick’s first stint as a head coach was even worse than Pete Carroll’s.

by Bildo on Jan 11, 2010 5:07 PM PST reply actions  

Fair enough

but I was never really excited about Mora has head coach. Especially at the end of the ’08 season when our pass defense catastrophically regressed.

by Bildo on Jan 11, 2010 8:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I have hope for the future!

That has to count for something right? I mean I was never sold on Mora, I never thought they would pull together and win one last Super Bowl for Holmgren. There are a lot of unknowns with Pete Carroll but unknowns beat the mediocrity that has settled in the years after the Super Bowl and the piss poor years we have had the last two years.

by Generzal Zod on Jan 11, 2010 6:21 PM PST reply actions  

Have to say, I'm ultimately pleased with the move.

The major knock I had on Mora was that I felt as if he was leaving our team demoralized and unprepared. That three-game stretch at the end of the season where we seemed to be down 14-0 before the first quarter was over really made it apparent that the team was either no longer caring or woefully unprepared.

Carroll may not deliver us a better record next season – in fact, I would not be surprised if the team even ended up losing more games as we undergo a few growing pains – but I think team morale will be much higher, and that combined with an infusion of young talent will propel this team back to the top of the division and league contention once again.

by Hmph on Jan 11, 2010 7:36 PM PST reply actions  

Well Leiweke's presser made me fall a lot better

Because it doesn’t sound like Carroll is all that interested in doing the drafting.

It’s kind of worrisome that Carroll is going to be sitting in on the GM interviews, though. That’s not really sending a great message that they’re supposed to be a partnership when the guy is there deciding whether to hire you or not.

by OlSalty on Jan 11, 2010 9:51 PM PST reply actions  

Sitting in != making decisions, though.

Carroll seems like a guy who wants to stay informed, and it’s a good idea to make sure your coach (with extra duties) and your GM see eye-to-eye.

by Spider Jerusalem on Jan 11, 2010 10:12 PM PST up reply actions  

The coach and GM have to work closely together.

I see no reason for him not to be involved in helping decide who he can work well with and have the potential to share a vision of this team moving forward.

by Misfit74 on Jan 12, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

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