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Baltimore at Indianapolis - Open Thread

This should be the game of the weekend. Should. If it makes it through the first quarter without being a blowout, I'mmagonna pop that Bourbon County Stout. Lot's of nice matchups to watch and some great talent on display -- this is what playoff football should be. Just don't eff it up, Bert.

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I think the Colts will win

But wouldn’t be shocked if the Ravens pulled out the W.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 4:50 PM PST reply actions  

So we get Jim Nance tommorow...

for the Masters tour… er I mean Chargers/Jets

by farmer cam on Jan 16, 2010 4:54 PM PST reply actions  

Nantz > Buck

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Too much sitting

must. do. pushups. or. at least. walk to my mail box.

by John Morgan on Jan 16, 2010 4:59 PM PST reply actions  

pushups. sit-ups. jumping jacks

then beer break… rest 10 minutes, repeat … do 4 or 5 sets

by farmer cam on Jan 16, 2010 5:01 PM PST reply actions  

"His quest for a second ring starts tonight"

The Colts, meanwhile, decided not to board the plane.

by John Morgan on Jan 16, 2010 5:10 PM PST reply actions  

Manning is good but I'm pretty sure he can't win on his own

The way people persist in attributing team success and failure to quarterbacks alone bothers me.

by Gihyou on Jan 16, 2010 5:11 PM PST up reply actions  

WELKAH!

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 5:16 PM PST reply actions  

You could hear that

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Jan 16, 2010 5:21 PM PST reply actions  

Stupid fist

I missed the excitement of a made field goal.

by John Morgan on Jan 16, 2010 5:22 PM PST reply actions  

More on Grubbs, though.

He was back peddling instead of pushing forward. Rice should have the option to go whichever way he feels there is a hole. Grubbs was being blocked back into Rice’s path.

by Wilder. on Jan 16, 2010 5:34 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a lineman in space having to hold a block on a screen

It’s Rice’s job to find the path. He certainly had the time to.

by DoubleB on Jan 16, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly

but the block was bad too. He picked wrong, but the defender came completely free and nailed him.

by John Morgan on Jan 16, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

He came free inside. He had sealed the backer inside

I’d have to see it again, but I don’t think the LB is making the play if Rice goes outside

by DoubleB on Jan 16, 2010 5:38 PM PST up reply actions  

The LB would have made the tackle either direction.

He owned Grubbs. Grubbs was to the point of falling over with any slight push.

by Wilder. on Jan 16, 2010 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

That's patently false as Grubbs was hit hard and was still on his feet

I disagree that the defender makes the play if Rice goes to the other side—maybe after a gain of 3-5 yards.

by DoubleB on Jan 16, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, Grubbs was only still on his feet because Rice went to the inside.

If Rice went to the outside, the LB would have toppled Grubbs to the ground. Grubbs lost his footing when he was shoved back and another push would have doomed him.

Patently false? Go back and look at the play.

by Wilder. on Jan 16, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I did

I agree that the block wasn’t good at all, but he was at least in the way. Rice gains yardage if he goes the other way.

Your putting a huge lineman in space and a RB behind him. It’s the back’s job to make that play go—the lineman just isn’t going to give you a 2-way go (very often).

by DoubleB on Jan 16, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

The bottom line is that Grubbs did a horrible job at blocking.

He should have been going forward with the block instead of backwards. Grubbs didn’t give Rice much of an option of going to the outside as he would have been blocked back into him.

by Wilder. on Jan 16, 2010 5:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey John,

You ever read Bill Walsh’s Find the Winning Edge? Brilliantly detailed. So good.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Jan 16, 2010 5:32 PM PST reply actions  

I haven't

I’ll have to fit that in come Spring.

by John Morgan on Jan 16, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Library.

I’m dropping the $ to get my own. I am totally blown away.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Jan 16, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions  

It's out of print and in the $200 range in decent shape,

but the Multnomah co, Library has a copy. He documents everything in unbelievable detail

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Jan 16, 2010 5:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah didn't think of that.

I’ve been wanting it, too. Leave the Vancouver libraries alone!!!

by Misfit74 on Jan 16, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions  

There is a part of me that doesn't want to return it.

But this needs to read by every football fan. Even if only to thumb through. Forget the plays, that’s a given; workout criteria for every position, pre training camp lectures for the coaching staff (1-7) even the secretarial staff lectures, what he looks for position by position, just… everything. And did I mention in detail?

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by Dukeshire on Jan 16, 2010 5:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Great catch.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Jan 16, 2010 5:33 PM PST reply actions  

Nice defense 26

You might want to try to find the ball next time

by Gihyou on Jan 16, 2010 5:33 PM PST reply actions  

Wow,

how did he drop that!

by DoubleB on Jan 16, 2010 5:37 PM PST reply actions  

"Made with real sugar"? Nice try Pepsi.

You’re still not stopping me from grabbing glass-bottled soda from the Su Casa Mexican goods store downtown.

by Anticitizen_One on Jan 16, 2010 5:43 PM PST reply actions  

That's what it's come to. Real sugar.

Way to thumb your nose at government subsidized corn farmers. Rebels.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Jan 16, 2010 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

That I don't know.

Probably. It’s legal so we must.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Jan 16, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember thinking how brilliant it would be.

Tax people for making/eating fatty food and being fat. I mean, this is Machiavelli-evil but the most practical thing ever.

by Anticitizen_One on Jan 16, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

"good reversal"

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Jan 16, 2010 5:46 PM PST reply actions  

MMA?

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Greco Roman

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Jan 16, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn straight.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 5:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I like the camera angle from the end zone,

especially to watch the blocking.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Jan 16, 2010 5:58 PM PST reply actions  

Facemask.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 6:03 PM PST reply actions  

He also thinks the pass coverage is great

every time there’s an incompletion due to an over-throw.

by JeffJ254 on Jan 16, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Great catch

I think they have that the way Balty plays their defense

by DoubleB on Jan 16, 2010 6:07 PM PST reply actions  

Pocket presence. Manning had little time there and got rid of the ball.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 6:09 PM PST reply actions  

Brilliant playcall.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 6:11 PM PST reply actions  

Turning out to be quite similar to the playoff game between the two teams three seasons ago.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2010 6:14 PM PST reply actions  

Addai's impression of Shaun there

not as good as Beanie’s, but appreciate the effort

by JamesMurphy on Jan 16, 2010 6:17 PM PST reply actions  

Addai is less than average.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Perfect.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Jan 16, 2010 6:19 PM PST reply actions  

Nice catch.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2010 6:19 PM PST reply actions  

What a throw.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 6:19 PM PST reply actions  

Unreal

Just perfect. He’s a pleasure to watch when he’s not playing the Hawks isn’t he?

by JamesMurphy on Jan 16, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Freeney.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 6:25 PM PST reply actions  

That was loads of awesome.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 6:29 PM PST reply actions  

Whoooooooooaaaaaaaaaaa

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 6:32 PM PST reply actions  

Helmet to helmet.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 6:32 PM PST reply actions  

That's his shoulder, come on.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Jan 16, 2010 6:32 PM PST reply actions  

Fuck you Indy.

And suck it, Arizona.

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett

All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.

by Wayward Llama on Jan 16, 2010 7:30 PM PST reply actions  

Chris Spencer shuts SBN down.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 7:33 PM PST reply actions  

Again, Spencer causes misery.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Wordpress is a bitch sometimes.

But it destroys Blogger and I can actually ban individual trolls.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Looking at some of the accurate throws Manning is making while under pressure

I hope this puts the whole “Manning would struggle behind our line” argument (which wasn’t much) to rest.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 7:34 PM PST reply actions  

Oh, he would.

Not as bad as Matt Hasselbeck has, but he’d struggle. I also wouldn’t reach that conclusion based on one game.

I’ve watched Manning enough to know that he would. I’ve seen him at his best and at his worst vs. a successful pass rush.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't mean this with any rudeness

but you’re wrong. Manning is a thousand times the quarterback Hasselbeck is.

by John Morgan on Jan 16, 2010 7:45 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

It's gotta suck to be Ed Reed...

picking Manning twice and still giving up points.

by chrees on Jan 16, 2010 7:37 PM PST reply actions  

Nah, I'm pretty sure that

it’s pretty friggin awesome to be Ed Reed.

=)

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett

All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.

by Wayward Llama on Jan 16, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder what Forsett would be like if he had stayed with the Colts.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 7:39 PM PST reply actions  

A Pro Bowl'er

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

And that's game.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 7:41 PM PST reply actions  

SBN can go down again.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

It's as John said.

Flacco is not much more than PA quarterback. There’s a reason they keep running instead of passing.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

We don't even get to that point.

He gets sacked.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

They can draft Golden Tate

Much as it pains me to admit.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

DeCosta can do that.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Um

Neither? Well, depends on their draft position.

by John Morgan on Jan 16, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Tate.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Poor Flacco

If only he had receivers that looked for the football when they turned their heads

by farmer cam on Jan 16, 2010 7:53 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah

If only he had timing and accuracy, he would be something.

by John Morgan on Jan 16, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

well I haven't been watching all game but..

I have seen several throws dropped by receivers who didn’t expect a football to be anywhere near

by farmer cam on Jan 16, 2010 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

not sure we are talking about the same plays

the passes I observed the receiver turned in plenty of time to track and catch a football. It’s called a timing route for a reason

by farmer cam on Jan 16, 2010 8:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah okay

I’ve seen plenty of receivers ambushed by passes, but it’s a matter of interpretation.

by John Morgan on Jan 16, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Now they're passing.

Go figure.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2010 7:56 PM PST reply actions  

Aaaaaaaand game.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 7:58 PM PST reply actions  

Looks like he got kneed int he back or soemething

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2010 7:58 PM PST reply actions  

Typing and watching TV at the same time is not one of my skills.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Flacco just can't play from behind.

Ravens need the D to win this or they’re. are. out.

by John Morgan on Jan 16, 2010 7:58 PM PST reply actions  

So, can Colt McCoy become

the next Drew Brees. Does he have that kind of game?

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Jan 16, 2010 7:58 PM PST reply actions  

He's more Jeff Garcia

but we shall see. His recent injury could destroy what arm strength he had.

by John Morgan on Jan 16, 2010 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Brown didn't even look ready for the carry.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 8:02 PM PST reply actions  

Ravens are beating themselves

Browns >>> Baltimore?

erutangis

Tatonka?!? TAKONKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

by jubelthebear on Jan 16, 2010 8:05 PM PST reply actions  

This just in

PA quarterbacks can’t play from behind.

by John Morgan on Jan 16, 2010 8:05 PM PST reply actions  

Can you think of some other PA QBs in the league?

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Brilliant!

Also, anyone else think Flacco has a Leftwich-like windup? That release isn’t impressive.

by Misfit74 on Jan 16, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm struggling to find the humor in How I Met Your Mother.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 8:08 PM PST reply actions  

It doesn't seem like intelligent humor to me

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Which is my problem with the show.

I don’t mind silly, amateurish humor every once in a while but HIMYM just feels stupid.

In other words, I’m more of an “Airplane” guy where there is a mix of thinking comedy and silly wordplay and puns and less of a “Anything with Jim Carrey” guy.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Airplane is a high standard

The best humor should strive to appeal to everyone.

I have never watch How I Met..whatever, so neither know if it is good or bad.

by John Morgan on Jan 16, 2010 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

There are several jokes where you have to think before you get the reference

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a good mix.

It’s not asininely pompous like Frasier but it’s smart as in clever.

by John Morgan on Jan 16, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm really impressed with Ray Rice

Me likey.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 16, 2010 8:08 PM PST reply actions  

He had a terrible game.

Not saying he’s not good, but he had a terrible, terrible game.

by John Morgan on Jan 16, 2010 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

"With a healthy Reggie Mathis and Freeney." - Bill Cowher

Impressive.

2010 Seahawks Goals: Master the forward pass, sack the QB, and knock Arizona off their perch.

by SSreporters on Jan 16, 2010 8:15 PM PST reply actions  

Alright

Good night and dreams of Spiller and Clausen (one ‘s’) in your heads.

by John Morgan on Jan 16, 2010 8:20 PM PST reply actions  

Both games today were over by the 4th quarter.

Lets hope tomorrow’s games are a little closer at the end. Last weeks Packers-Cardinals game set the bar pretty high.

by Alec_Mac on Jan 16, 2010 8:23 PM PST reply actions  

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