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My Head Coach Wishlist

This list is so subjective that it is almost uninformed; it is a list of three people that I would not mind being the HC of The Ospreys next year. More than that, it is a way to open conversation on what sort of characteristics and philosophies we want in our new Head Coach next year (I hope to God it is next year). 

Winston Moss - Green Bay's assistant head coach. He played LB for the Hawks, and was the Defensive Quality Control Assistant for them in 1998. He is defensive minded (so he might know what to do with Curry). Write-ups have compared his Quiet-With-a-Big-Stick aura to Singletary...but with actual coaching experience. I would like to see what he can do with our D and especially our LBs. Also, he should know the 3-4. 

Mike Zimmer - Bengals DCoord. Don't know much about Zimmer, other than that he seems to really improve any D he coaches (imagine that). Downside is that he is 56, and thus probably more set in his ways. If those ways work though, it could be endured.

Leslie Frazier - Vikings DCoord. Former DB for the '85 Bears. Hired. Alright I'm kidding. Endorsed by Dungy (his personality is described as "Dungy-esque"). Seems to consistently improve Secondaries. 

Those are three that I have barely researched but like. What do other people want? 

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My initial thoughts;

Moss would be fun with his playing and coaching ties to Seattle but lacks experience as HC.

Zimmer appears to be a career assistant.

Frazier feels good. Worked with Reid, a good thing. Has been a head coach before. (Even at a smaller college, being the man in charge counts. The experience is invaluable, I would think) At first glance, everywhere he’s been has improved during his time. Of these names, I’m most impressed with him.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Jan 3, 2010 10:02 AM PST reply actions  

ew.

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett

All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.

by Wayward Llama on Jan 3, 2010 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

If Shanahan isn't the best of the available coaches

Gruden is. A fantastic coach, I would want him more than anyone.

by jacobstevens on Jan 4, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd have to say Frazier sounds the most appealing on your list.

I like that you thought outside of the box on this one.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 12:39 PM PST reply actions  

I'd really rather see an offensive coach brought in

That Hawks should be shooting for the next Sean Payton or Mike McCarthy.

by Nate Dogg on Jan 3, 2010 6:07 PM PST reply actions  

I played predominatly offense my entire life

So I should agree with you, and last year I would have, but our D is just too promising, young, and cheap. I really want to see what a Defensive mastermind could do with it. Our offense is almost an exact negative of our defense; drained, old, and expensive.

by DJ C-Raig on Jan 3, 2010 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

We wouldn't be hiring a coach for this season though, it's a long term position.

And right now the NFL is a passing league, I’d like to see the Seahawks really embrace that.

by Nate Dogg on Jan 3, 2010 7:41 PM PST up reply actions  

It seems like all the defensive masterminds in the NFL are mere DCs

For example, Nolan was a moron with his defensive calling in SF, but as a pure DC in Denver, he’s been much more effective even with arguably inferior talent.

Whoever the coach is, I hope its someone with a plan- an angle. Someone who wants to revolutionize the passing offense, or someone that would attempt to make an NFL version of the Spread, or even someone like Parcells that attempted a wildcat based offense. Failing innovation, I’d prefer a headcoach that can at least identify offensive talent and use it to build a great offense. As JM’s mentioned a few times: offense is worth more to regular seasons than defense is. So for that reason, I’d rather have a team who has a leg up on offense than on defense.

Even if that wasn’t true, I’d prefer an Offensive coach because I think offensive teams are more interesting to watch and play more exciting football.

by kearly on Jan 3, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd like to see Mike Tomlin

with a rebuilding team, rather than one that was already built to win.

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett

All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.

by Wayward Llama on Jan 4, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Good point.

But he still won the Superbowl, even if his team was good. If House dies and Omar Epps leads House’s super team to solve cancer, he still solved cancer.
Same with Phil Jackson and him always having super stars. It’s hard to say what he would do the 2007 Sonics, but when he has a good team he does remarkably well.

by LantermanC on Jan 4, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Well

he’d certainly be an improvement over what we have now, either way.

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett

All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.

by Wayward Llama on Jan 4, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Please tell me you're joking!

What does Omar Epps know about coaching in the NFL?

And House? He’s not even American!

by dagraham on Jan 4, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah. We may not know how well Tomlin would fare in real adverse conditions

but we know how he’s fared in optimal conditions, and as easy as that may sound, he’s done about as good a job as can be done. There are a number of things that a lesser coach could easily do wrong even while leading such a solid team.

by jacobstevens on Jan 4, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Or without Dick Lebeau

Tomlin is what Mora is supposed to be. Not a mastermind like Belichik or Payton or even Rex Ryan but a leader like Coughlin or Harbaugh. Someone that can lead him team, make smart decisions, assemble a good staff and identify talent. I like Tomlin and he’s obviously doing something right but I’d rather see the Seahawks be a little more cutting edge.

by Nate Dogg on Jan 4, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know if he is obviously doing something right

He has a franchise that was built to win, and awesome coordinators, and a built in team identity. All he really has to do is stay the course, and this season he ended up looking like a jackass in many of his pressers and minorly split the team on a couple occasions.

by DJ C-Raig on Jan 4, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I won't list any names, but I do have three preferred qualities for our next HC

(this assumes “competent and qualified” as a given)

  1. Takes a very active role with team and stamps his identity on it (calls plays, etc)
  2. Outside the box or otherwise advanced thinker, preferably with an offense background
  3. Has established credibility or creates his own credibility, in other words, players “buy in” like they did for Holmgren when he first arrived.

It doesn’t have to be a superstar coach to satisfy criteria #3. For example: Sark or GMZ. You could tell the Huskies team and the fanbase completely bought in to Sarkisian even before the first game of the season, and it only grew as the season went along. Fans bought into GMZ as the Mariners GM before a single game of their surprising 85 win season was played. Its not easy to diagnose, but If the team doesn’t hire a megastar, I’d like them to look for a guy that is clearly bright, charismatic, personable and inspiring.

Getting all three of those criteria will be difficult, but if I was making the hiring, I’d get the guy who comes closest to fulfilling those three things as I could.

by kearly on Jan 3, 2010 8:52 PM PST reply actions  

Agreed, I'd rather have an offensive coach

I liked the “high-flying, shootout, just enough defense to win” Seahawks we had this decade

by DetectiveM on Jan 3, 2010 10:08 PM PST reply actions  

Agreed, actually.

It’s far more entertaining football to watch, even if it isn’t always “good” football, and one mistake doesn’t doom you like it does when you’re playing defensive football and lack the O to get back in a game.

Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.

by Tyler Jorgensen on Jan 4, 2010 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I have to say, I'm fine with keeping or firing Mora.

I liked what he was doing, early on. I knew it was way too early to say anything. And then he’s got this personal style, that isn’t hid publicly, that isn’t very appealing. I think he lost the team and you don’t take that into the next year. I think firing him is the correct decision.

If we don’t, I’ll be all right. I’ll be worried about what the repercussions are, but there are things about him that could make him a very capable coach. If he’d had success and earned respect, before this year, there wouldn’t be an issue. I don’t know if the cart can be put back behind the horse, but I’ll be all right if we keep him.

by jacobstevens on Jan 4, 2010 11:09 AM PST reply actions  

Evaluating coaches is tough. Peyton Manning would have Mora in the running for coach of the year, Mike McCarthy was the OC for the 2004 49ers offense.

Good talent can make any coach look good and vice versa.

I’d like to see a modern offensive guru type head coach, but I really don’t have a clue who that would be. Jason Garrett looks alright, but he refuses to give Tashard Choice carries, which is concerning. Bill Davis has done a good job with the Cardinals D, moving away from the mad scientist Clancy Pendergast. The you’ve got the Dan Quinn types who might be the masters at X’s and O’s but look like great motivators.

by MFAN on Jan 4, 2010 12:42 PM PST reply actions  

I guess I might be in the minority here,

but I would really like Bill Cowher.

Sure I don’t like him because of the SB and stuff, but that is the old Cowher, if he signed with us he would become (in my brain) the new Cowher.

And I think he’s one hell of a coach.

by GarethLewin on Jan 4, 2010 9:51 PM PST reply actions  

I don't think you'd be in the minority.

I think you’d have to resign yourself to the probability that it’s just wishful thinking.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 4, 2010 10:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes, I think a lot of people would like Cowher.

I just don’t see Seattle as a place he would ever want to come considering his other options.

by DJ C-Raig on Jan 4, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

What other options specifically?

The only option I see right now that is significantly more attractive (ignoring geography, which I concede is a big thing to ignore) is the Cowboys.

by GarethLewin on Jan 4, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually think Seattle is one of the more attractive job opportunities in the league.

I think Cowher might find Seattle quite appealing.

But for some strange reason, he strikes me as an east coast type of person.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 4, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

ESPN is reporting that Cower is not going to return to coaching this year

This could always change though if the right job is offered

ZORN FOR OC

by eohawkfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you happen to have the link?

I’ve been reading ESPN and I never saw that.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Jan 4, 2010 11:26 PM PST up reply actions  

No link

I saw this on sportscenter. Adam Schefter reports Cowher unlikely to return to coaching this year.

ZORN FOR OC

by eohawkfan on Jan 4, 2010 11:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw that too

He might just not want anything to do with the Bills.

by Nate Dogg on Jan 4, 2010 11:53 PM PST up reply actions  

When I said compared to others

I meant Carolina, because that is where he lives and has expressed a desire to coach there.

by DJ C-Raig on Jan 5, 2010 12:25 AM PST up reply actions  

While I agree

I think the hawks are more attractive than some of the other places he has been connected with (Bills for example).

But the post was “wishlist” hehehe.

by GarethLewin on Jan 4, 2010 11:02 PM PST up reply actions  

There is only one name on my list and that's Pete Carrol

I think I’ll change my name to Monday Morning Quarterback

by Emperor_Doom on Jan 11, 2010 4:02 PM PST reply actions  

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