Seahawks Lose - But Who Cares?! CHIEFS CHIEFS CHIEFS
by John Morgan on Jan 3, 2010 4:12 PM PST
Email
PrintBetween writing, talking to my wife and watching the Chiefs on Game Center, I managed to miss most of this game. That makes me a bit of a bad fan, because my eyes are on the future, but taking any game for granted is low. I'll see you next August Seahawks. I'll try and return a better fan and you return a better team.
Until then, we live with your ghost.
It's draft time, bitches.
255 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
I'm not using our picks
on Orton! What’s wrong with you?
Portland transplant to Boston.
This day went about as perfectly as it could.
I never root against the Seahawks, but it’s hard to feel too disappointed about our game. And the 49ers won, and Carolina won. And Denver is out of the playoffs. Those 1st rounders are going to be mighty sexy to use this draft.
by Fear on Jan 3, 2010 4:16 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I thought I wouldn't be upset about the Seahawks losing.
Surprise, I’m upset!
But it will definitely help the draft, and I’ll probably be OK with this loss come April anyway
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
Nice job from Matt there
To make sure we can select his replacement.
by A'Seahawks_Warriors on Jan 3, 2010 4:18 PM PST reply actions
Now, please, a GM who's not a wuss.
Surprise me.
--Shrug
Field Gulls - The SBN Seattle Seahawks Blog
Is this official?
I fucking hate you Mariners
I don't think so.
Tonight’s game still impacts the draft pick from Denver, I think.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
Nope. Official.
Denver’s out of the playoffs and if the Jets go 8-8, their strength of schedule is harder than Denver’s, so the pick isn’t affected.
The demise of the Broncos in '09 is our future. Pray hard.
Well then...
Happy New Year’s!!!!!!
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
Our schedule had to be easier than the Browns
I would think they’d pick after us since they played in a division with all winning teams.
The Seahawks will pick before the Browns. So their first pick will be #6.
I’m amazed that Denver’s pick will be in the top half of the first round.
Should have benched Orton
I fucking hate you Mariners
I am impressed with Matt
I would NEVER advise cutting Matt until I SEE another QB pushing him for the start . To many cut happy people out there . That being said I would like to see another QB being groomed and pushing . When a hurt Matt is better than a healthy Seneca or Teel speaks volumes
A hurt Matt probably wasn't better than Seneca after the shoulder problem arose.
Also, we don’t know if Teel is better or worse since he’s only taken about 30 or so snaps in the preseason.
by BrettJMiller on Jan 4, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
Assumtion on Teel
We don’t know since we only saw 30 snaps .
I am sure coaches saw alot more , but it would have been nice for the fans to see as well how Teel has not gotten even close to dis-lodging Matt that armchair coaches would like us to believe
I want to like Knapp, but today was it for him.
Really awful playcalling.
I hate DeHaven and fittingly our last special teams play is Jon Ryan fumbling a fine snap.
I want to like Hasselbeck, but his final throw was an INT. He started the year with an INT on the 3rd play of the game and ends it with an INT.
I like John Carlson. He had our first TD of the season and the last TD of the season.
Alas, there will be serious shakeups, and it’s for the better of the team.
SEA! HAWKS!
FIRE JIM MORA NOW!
Agreed
Not only does Knapp seem like a good coach but I had a chance to talk to the guy and he really is a nice guy and loves the people of Seattle. But today was not his day. Hopefully the coaching staff can regroup during the off-season and fix what’s been going wrong. DRAFT TIME!
by Seahawksfan23 on Jan 3, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
Ending the season with four straight losses, three of them embarassments
May have sealed our coaches fate. We’ll see. Need to hire a GM first
I don't think even a guy like Al Davis would fire the whole coaching staff after one season
Yes the coaching staff has been horrible this year and embarrasing but it’s highly unlikely that the majority of them would be fired after their first season here in Seattle like Gregg Knapp, Gus Bradley, Dan Quinn, and Tim Lewis. DeHaven perhaps but I think we’ll see a similar coaching staff next year.
by Seahawksfan23 on Jan 3, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Bill Parcells did.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
This season could justify it.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
Usually I think firing a coach after 1 year is a bad idea
But 4 straight losses to end the season, so many blowouts and outright embarrassing losses, never winning a single challenge, 3 times he called players out and play-calling that became more questionable as the season went along, at the very least I think a coordinator needs to go.
by Badmotostinkfinger on Jan 3, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
I actually want Mora to stay for another year.
I think he should be given a chance to really lose his job, or prove that he really deserves it. I think he’s a good coach, I just question his leadership, ability.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
I want this team to make some rapid course corrections.
If that’s going to happen, the coaching staff from Mora on down needs to go.
I'm under no illusion that the rebuilding is going to happen overnight. It's going to take several years of stocking some above average to elite talent at key positions to do so.
That’s one reason why I’m OK with him being around for one more year.
I swear though. If he continues to OK Julius Jones getting more carries than Justin Forsett… I’m gonna get violent. Like King Kong violent.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
Perhaps, but it's the mismanagement of talent, that if it continues, will seriously irk me.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions
1 More year Mora
After 1 year FULL year as HC I am curious as to his corrections . If it is the same or worse , FOX becomes available HC end of next year .
John Fox?
No thank you. I’d rather see Gruden (bleh) than Fox.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett
All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.
by Wayward Llama on Jan 4, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions
How about Zorn as OC
I know he did bad in Washington , but he has spent alot of time in our system , knows the QBs well and WRs . Could be calling Seahawk style plays with Redskin personal was it or maybe just bad play calls . We all know the famous play , but I thought he lost his play calling duties ?
Yeah, he did.
I wouldn’t be opposed to Zorn, but I also don’t have any beef with Knapp. I just don’t like Mora.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett
All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.
by Wayward Llama on Jan 5, 2010 3:56 AM PST up reply actions
I give Mora the off season
With 1 year under this scheme I give him this off-season to alter scheme to fit personal with weakness’s exposed in the new system this year
Yeah, I couldn't believe the Seahawks would have a coach who was even worse than Mike Holmgren.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
I know the gist of your comment
But Mora is an idiot.
You don’t have to be worse than Holmgren. I just want a good head coach. He has NEVER shown that here and was average in Atlanta.
FIRE JIM MORA NOW!
Actually, I wasn't trying to be sarcastic.
What I meant to say was: I actually cannot believe that Seattle would have a coach that was WORSE than Holmgren was on challenging plays.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions
Yep.
Granted, while the responsibility falls on Mora, the fault lies with his review crew. On that last Chris Johnson TD, I threw up my hands in exasperation because even I didn’t need a replay to know that Johnson scored a TD.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
Not sure Mora called red flag
I am curious about the voice in his ear that said challenge it . Who was that ? I doubt it was something Mora saw from field level .
There's also the issue of Mora being the secondary coach
for the last few years, and our secondary has been terrible. Get rid of this guy. His leadership skills are questionable at best, and I honestly don’t think he’s a good coach. He lost this team a long time ago.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett
All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.
by Wayward Llama on Jan 4, 2010 4:00 AM PST up reply actions
That's the most important part
I agree that Mora lost the team quite a ways back, and that’s the #1 reason he should be let go. If the rest of his coaching abilities weren’t suspect it would be arguable, but if the players don’t respect him then none of it matters.
by Camarostache '77 on Jan 4, 2010 7:25 AM PST up reply actions
Bring Easley into secondary coach
Teach them the nasty
With Ruskell gone, it's a possibility the team goes in an entirely new direction
Allen and Lewieke didn’t pick these coaches. It’ll depend a lot on what their team audit finds. It looks very up in the air right now. If Ruskell were here, I’d say everybody stays, but now I’m not so sure.
That's basically what it comes down to.
Mora was a Ruskell hire. The new GM should be given the opportunity to go the direction he wants to go. Mora needs to be fired before the new GM is selected. Then the new GM can go through the hiring process and re-hire Mora if he feels he’s the best choice.
That's the best idea I have heard yet...
…it covers all the bases: gives the GM a totally free hand, and puts Mora on the outside looking in, where is exactly where he deserves to be.
Johnson and Charles
Of the Chiefs have a chance of claiming that too.
by JamesMurphy on Jan 3, 2010 4:33 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
God I love Jamaal Charles
I liked him when he was at Texas and I would have been happy if he became a Seahawk, but today, he earned a soft spot in my heart for his performance today. Derrick Johnson too.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
Again, can't believe the excitement coming around this draft.
Someone said we have 7 and 14… plus 7 in the second round.
Glorious.
Draft for push , not for start
Set your sights low and you will never be dissappointed .
Draft LT , DT , LT
I want to see them compete for the starting job .
Perhaps Lockleer steps up or goes RT or becomes backup . Not as much for being cut happy unless needing room , money or draft picks
Give me Anthony Davis at LT and Earl Thomas at S
Super talented underclassmen that have all the tools to be stars and are realistically available given our picks.
Suh and Berry are not going to be around at 7, so we can stop all that talk.
You really think so?
Most people have him as the number 1 or 2 prospect in the Draft. I can’t see him slipping 5 spots to us, it’s wishful thinking.
Maybe in high schhol
"I'm tired of chasing after my dreams. I'll just find out where they're going, and catch up later." - Hedberg
Hawthorne as Safety ??
Well his INTs show he has some coverage skills
Has some good penetration for safety blitz
and he hits people pretty good
Are his physical specs off or just an athlete learning another position ?
Was not sure of what safety skills Hawthorne is lacking
Is it coverage speed vs Babes or Grant ?
Or does Grant or babes do better at run D or pass rush better then Hawthorne can . He seems to have range but I could be mistaken
True , players draft stock shifts
after combines tends to be the most drastic shifts in the players draft positions . The next biggest I am thinking is the end of the bowl games and the 3rd would probably be whom is coming out early ( unless they have already declared )
Very much a realistic possibility that he will available around #7
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
Anthony Davis???
Why? At best, he’s projected at RT. He’s quick off the snap, but he has poor lateral movement and gets beat by simple moves way, way too often. His hand technique isn’t very impressive either.
And Berry is realistically thought to be available around pick #7, so that talk can continue. Right up until the draft.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
It's possible....
That Okung or Berry could fall to the Seahawks with the 6 or 7th overall pick. I would be shocked if the rams took the chance to pass on Claussen.
2. Detroit will take Suh,
3. KC will either take Okung, G. McCoy or Berry,
4. Tampa will either take McCoy, D. Morgan, Berry or address the WO position with D. Bryant,
5. Washington will defintely take Bradford.
Assuming we are 6 we get what should be the Hawks first priority Okung. If we drafted 7th quite possibly Berry will be there.
Thoughts pls?
Hm.
I’ve become a bit lukewarm regarding Okung. There are some negative reports out there on him by people who have been watching him this year. For instance, in the Cotton Bowl, Rob Stanton observed some extremely disconcerting plays where Okung allowed himself to be beat – not that he was beaten, which will happen to linemen at times – but that he was sloppy and made little effort against players with him he had an athletic and size advantage over, thus allowing them beat him with a simple move, when a little effort would have negated the efforts of the defensive player in each instance.
Last year, I would have flatly disagreed, but I haven’t watched him much this year, so I’ll give the benefit of the doubt. But if it is true, what’s changed? I’d like to find out.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 4, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions
As for Okung
Well , I am not a scout so I am sure their is a list of the top 3 LTs in a folder all being compared but I am confident whomever will be the top LT in the draft .
Another point of note that pops up this time of year is ’ mis-information ’ .
People tend to have bias’s even when they do not know it themselves . It is why every team has a different draft board . I do not know anyone that had Trufant going in the first .
Really?
I remember Trufant was highly praised, and expected to be a 1st rounder, especially after his combine.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 4, 2010 11:29 PM PST up reply actions
Depends on the draft board
I think I had the post combine PFW for reference so not everyone had him at first rnd.
( has nice format to follow draft and fill in names on another page )
draft order
Yes, a good day for a Seattle draft. I have Seatte’s pick between 6 and 8 (don’t know the tie-breakers with the Raiders and Browns) and Seattle/Denver pick between 12 and 16 (again, not sure the tie-breakers, and thats assuming the Jets win tonight for the ninth time).
Does anyone know for sure what the order will be?
The tie-breaker is decided by strength of schedule.
I really don’t know who’s schedule was harder, the Browns, Seahawks, or Raiders. But I think the Browns, given the division that they play in, had it harder than the Seahawks, therefore, I think the Seahawks will draft #7
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
I think the Raiders did too
Chargers had more wins than the Cardinals; Chiefs had more than the Rams; Broncos and 49ers had the same record. If you just look at the division, the AFC west was better than the NFC west. I don’t know about the other games but I would guess that Seattle picks before Oakland in the first round.
Well, according to Nick Andron
The Seahawks are picking #7 overall.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
Based on strength of schedule published at theredzone.com
I think the order would be Rams, Lions, Bucs, Chiefs, Redskins, Browns, Seahawks, Raiders drafting 1-8. Followed by Bills, Fins, Jags, Da Bears, Titans, Niners, Hawks (Denver) at 15, Giants and Panthers. If the Jets lose tonight, they slip in front of the Panthers at 17. I believe we’re locked in at 7 and 15.
7 and 15 works for me!
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
I don't think this is accurate
I did the math. Seattle opponents had 124 combined wins. Oakland opponents had 133 combined wins. Cleveland opponents had 131 wins (132 if Cincinnati beats the Jets). Seattle should pick 6th in the first round.
According to this link:
http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2009/09/2010-nfl-draft-order.html
He is right. Seahawks are also picking 14th overall. I think I’m beginning to feel better about the Seahawks losing today
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions
Losing this one never bothered me
I just wanted it to be close and not a blow out
I'm tempted to do a "What the Losers Are Saying" type of post (but won't use the title)
For the Broncos. I don’t think I’ll do it.
FIRE JIM MORA NOW!
Gaard Swanson does not have a brain
Ray: Several quarterbacks have been sacked more than Matt and have far outproduced Matt.
Gaard: But Hasselbeck won the Largent award this year!!!
Matts production
Yeah , others sacked more and produced more . Who did those QBs have for targets ? Who do we have ?
The Colts would be (even more) unstoppable
with our WR corps.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett
All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.
by Wayward Llama on Jan 4, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions
Agreed
Just look what the WRs have done the last 2 games in the backup role. Aside from P. Garcon (who got most of his yardage with Manning at the helm) the WR corp has looked bad. Of course they were without A. Gonzalez for the year and A. Collie maybe no better than a 3rd WR.
Gaard Swanson
Why do I know this? Also, yes, he’s an idiot.
Agreed. I like him, and it sucks to see a player of his caliber suffer an injury just before the playoffs.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions
NO CRITICISM AT ALL? (re: post-game)
Got to be kidding me!
Says who?
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
if he can come back healthy
thats sweet… who could be better for our 1st round rookie LT to watch and learn from?
Nice bonus
Still want to draft a couple LT if for the least to have depth does not come off the streets
Ray Roberts is a regular contributor to 710ESPN.
Further proof that 710ESPN, despite being the flagship station of the Seahawks and the Mariners, is leaps and bounds better at the whole analysis thing than KJR.
KJR is pathetic, they make no effort to even compete with them on the Seahawks.
They beat ya over the head with Huskies talk though. Postgame for the M’s most of the time and rarely for the Hawks, and they talk to way to much Scarves.
by Badmotostinkfinger on Jan 3, 2010 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
That's because no one cares about soccer.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett
All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.
by Wayward Llama on Jan 4, 2010 4:01 AM PST up reply actions
Organized jogging. haha
I played soccer for 11 years, I know it has a few fans, but it’s a drop in the bucket compared to the NFL, at least in this country. For the amount of press that MLS gets, a 30 minute radio spot a week seems about right.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett
All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.
by Wayward Llama on Jan 4, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe in other areas of the country, but
there is a significant soccer buzz in the Pac NW right now.
Poor country sport
Give a kid a can to kick in the middle of the desert and he can become a professional soccer player ( not likely but possible ) .
Play it on horses and we call it polo which is a rich teams version of soccer
Play it in a pool and call it water polo ( if your horse does not drown LOL )
Put them on ice with ten times the speed and impact with armor and call it
HOCKEY
You can practice most team sports by yourself.
You just won’t be able to practice everything. Even soccer you can’t practice everything.
Can not practice everything , but can become good enough to be a pro
If you have better ball handling skills (solo ) , can hit the goal from anywhere with greater velocity than anyone at full run (solo )
You will be a pro soccer player
Of course you will probably be a great player on a piss poor team
Never said soccer was bad though
Played on high school and college team . Kept football and baseball players in shape in off season rather than running laps and sprints .
Tied WSU the day Mt St Helens blew ( I think everyone knows where they were then )
WTF who is this moron?
“But he also won the Steve Largent award”.
I can’t believe I’m watching this crap.
HE WON THE STEVE LARGENT AWARD
Well shit, I didn’t realize that. He’s amazing!
Deion Branch had a solid game today.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
Yeah , but it was a good rookie learning game
Branch is good but not #1WR good . Big upside for having a good game is proving he still has it for a team that really needs him . Bonus trade value !
I know how Seneca ranks as a QB , but I would have loved to have seen how he ranks as a receiver .
Butler is fast and elusive
but he has alot to learn yet . Imagine Largent coaching his skills into Butler’s body ?
I was gonna mention him.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't
Plenty of good talent that’s going to be available at 15
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions
And considering that this team isn't going to compete next season
there are players we can deal to gain back third round or potentially higher value draft picks.
That too.
The Seahawks have a lot of options heading into the offseason. `
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions
I would not mind having a shot at Cody at #15
A much needed push in the DT rotation that would demand double teams . Looking forward to watching the slimmed down 375 pound lineman in the championship game , though I do not care as much for his FB appearances on the goal line . DTs shed blocks , not lead FBs LOL
Sorry but
G. Cody would be long gone by the time the Hawks pick at #14 or #15.
Yeah Terrance Cody
Would make for a nice addition to the DT rotation like Tubbs was . Want to see how he does in the championship . Very easy to pick out on the Dline heheheh
I'll try and return a better fan and you return a better team.
Words to live by although I didn’t think that the team played all that badly today.
What? No SOUL?
If either Clausen or Bradford are available at 7
And the Hawks aren’t crazy about either one, but somebody later in the round was, it would be nice to trade down for their 1st and 2nd like the Browns did with the Jets last year.
by Badmotostinkfinger on Jan 3, 2010 5:13 PM PST reply actions
Problem is the teams likely to consider a QB that high are drafting ahead of us
Unless the Raiders are thought to be in the mix, no reason for the Bills to trade with us. If they think we’re in the mix, they should trade in front of us with the Browns for example.
satisified enough to trade away a top 15 qb in the league
I think they are sold on him.
by Hancock.Brett on Jan 3, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
The Rams last 3 1st round picks have been on both sides of the line, 4 of the last 5
They desperately need a QB, but my gut instinct and early rumors make me think they’ll go after Vick pretty hard. Plus I think Suh is to good to pass up and none of the QB’s are worth it. Then they’ll have the DT and MLB of the future in their 4-3 with Suh and Lauranitis.
After that, who might need a QB.
Lions- No
Bucs- No
Chiefs- No
Redskins- Yes, and I would have thought it was a guarantee a month ago, but Allen and Shanahan aren’t as desperate for big names as Snyder.
Browns- Yes, but I’m not sure that a QB guru like Holmgren who has had great success with the likes of Montana, Young, Favre and Hass, none of which were high 1st round picks, will be determined to take one that early.
Bills- Yes
Raiders- Who the fuck knows, they need one, but Haden, Dunlap and Mays seem like they fit the Leatherpants mold than a QB this year.
Hawks- Yes
Broncos- McD apparently thought Orton was better than Cutler, but they haven’t re-signed him yet and seeing as how the season finished and how erratic Baby Mangini is, I wouldn’t be surprised if they took one, and both Clausen and Bradford fit the mold of a QB that he would like.
by Badmotostinkfinger on Jan 3, 2010 6:39 PM PST up reply actions
Good breakdown
Shanahan traded up to get Cutler, and since it will be his first year in Washington (should he be offered, and accept, the job), he’ll probably feel the need to get “his” QB. Campbell, at most, has one year left with Washington and I think most would agree that even if brought back on an RFA contract, he’d just be playing out his time. Depending on who you ask, either Clausen or Bradford would be reasonable value at #5. I won’t call it a stone cold lock 5 months before the draft, but I feel that Washington will be very likely to draft QB at #5.
In a market which teams will want to trade out of the top 5 picks even more than usual (rookie salary cap on the horizon), it might behoove Seattle to see if they can get a good deal trading up. They probably won’t be able to make a deal for Suh, since its the Rams they’d have to deal with, but its not unreasonable that they could trade into possession for Gerald McCoy or up a mere two spots to leapfrog Washington, which would likely give them their choice of either Clausen or Bradford, whichever one they are more sold on.
Another idea I’ve heard, although a bit unconventional, is to stay put at #6, and try to deal for a player after he’s drafted. For example, lets say the Seahawks are really set on drafting Bradford. They don’t trade up, hoping that he falls to #6. If he does, then great- but lets say he goes #5 to the Redskins. You call them up, you say, “we’ll offer you our #6 pick and our 2nd rounder for the rights to Bradford.” Maybe the Redskins would say no, but it would be a tough offer to refuse, a 2nd round pick in exchange for choosing anyone other than Bradford, including (most likely) Clausen.
I will spit napalm.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
Not going to happen
If teams are trying to trade down as originally suggested to avoid the crippling salaries of top 10 picks, why should Seattle behave differently? And why overpay for said trade to boot? Desparation leads to dumb decisions. While I don’t think Hass has more than a year or two (at most) left in those bones, drafting the next Brady Quinn won’t help. I’d much rather fill the QB need through a trade, like Seneca Wallace and our 2nd rounder to Philly for Kolb. He’ll be a free-agent after next year and Philly needs to decide whether they’re going to dump McNabb ala “Green Bay and Favre” and move on. Trading him nets value before he hits FA in 2011.
Seattle would behave differently
because they’re in a unique position that those other teams aren’t. They can clear salary space for two first round picks by simply cutting ties with Walter Jones and Matt Hasselbeck.
It's a question of whether they will.
But if they do, you’re right, they are in a unique position.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
Doubt you will see Matt cut
No one is even close to competing at that level unless you want to pick yet another 2nd best QB in the draft from Notre Dame
A heavy majority thought the Seahawks were drafting Michael Crabtree this time of the year.
Never know. But I sure as hell hope not.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
Isn't Clausen just another Notre Dame QB picked 2nd QB in draft
I seem to remember doing this once before with some other kid behind Bledsoe
Rick Mirer and Jimmy Clausen are two different people.
Both of them going to Notre Dame means nothing, Mirer was there 17 years ago.
We don’t think Kyle Boller and Aaron Rodgers are the same cause they both went to Cal, do we?
All I want for Christmas is Spiller at #6, best OLT #14
Then the best OG, or Cin. WR Gilyard in the 2nd round.
He should be available even beyond Seattle's #14 spot.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
I like Forsett, but not fast enough. He gets caught from behind a lot.
With Spiller (Chris Johnson clone), Forsett would be the new Mo Morris 3rd down back.
Speed is not necessary to be a good running back.
Besides, Forsett has enough speed. And please, do not compare Forsett to Maurice Morris. If you want a better comparison, I’d say he’s more of a poor man’s version of Brian Westbrook.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
Good point
I am fine with Forsett . Many RB FA can be brought into camp as well to see if they can push him off the spot . Same for QBs .
We have had a ton of issues bringing in LTs so that should be top in draft
Exactly.
We need a big bruiser who can Forsett can compliment.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett
All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.
by Wayward Llama on Jan 4, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions
I wish there was less love for the notion of a thunder and lightning tandem.
Two good backs are two good backs.
True
but it would be nice to have a power back to take the anxiety away from short yardage situations. The again, a good, balanced halfback with decent speed would be nice. Someone who can plow short yardage but also break away. Forsett can do neither.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett
All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.
by Wayward Llama on Jan 4, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions
LOL , lets watch Alabama and see if they put DT Cody in again as FB
Well , he does out weigh every single lineman in the draft by 40 pounds atleast offense or defense lines . Last game said he ’ slimmed down ’ to 375 .
Like John pointed out in his podcast
if the team can hang onto Spencer the interior line really is set. If there is a tackle worthy of a #6 or a #14 pick, take them, but don’t reach just because they’re the best tackle in the class.
I agree with that.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 11:08 PM PST up reply actions
I really, really hope we keep Spencer.
I can’t see him being expensive, and would love some continuity inside.
Shoot me, but I wonder if we couldn’t even go into next season with Locklear, Sims, Spencer, Unger, Willis.
waits to be shot
Seattle could do that.
They could also draft better O-line talent.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 11:16 PM PST up reply actions
O-line can hold that set but .............
draft a couple LT anyway . Depth or slide to other side but they will definately push the current positions . If Spenser can hold onto starting RG fine , but it never hurts to have some talent pushing as Unger pushed him off center .
Lock needs some pushing . Either he steps up competing against a LT pick , or moves to RT or becomes a backup . I think we found that having more potential starting LTs is a good thing .
Not sure about Lock.
I think he needs to go back to RT.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett
All I want for Christmas is Joe Haden, Eric Berry, and Nandamukong Suh in Seahawks blue.
by Wayward Llama on Jan 4, 2010 4:04 AM PST up reply actions
Since Wes Welker is out, and we trade Deon Branch to N.E.?
Is it too late for trades now, or do we have to wait for the off season? Can we get at least a #2 for him?
Trading deadline is after the 6th week of the season.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Jan 3, 2010 11:09 PM PST up reply actions
Getting a #2 for Branch would be nice
Glad he had a good game . Behind Burl and Housh is tough to be #3 for his money . He could get a #1 or #2 spot on a few other teams since many other WR are RFA on this uncapped year anyway
We're not getting a #2 for Branch.
I’d be surprised if we can get a #5. Not that he’s awful, but I think the perception out there is that he hasn’t produced and is injury prone. Most teams would probably take their chances on a draft pick.
Better than cutting him
He is the one starter I think would do better elsewhere . Other starters I could see dropping in the depth chart . Frye , Goddard & McIntosh I do not see pushing Lock or Willis .
I would draft 2 LTs , drop two of those guys .
Of Bryant , Mebane , Terrill and Cole I could see Terrill dropped for a DT pick .
I'm just hoping we have a competent GM who knows what to do with a #6 pick.
Messing up a top 10 pick isn’t just a missed opportunity, but is also significant capital invested in little production that can really plague a franchise. I would be very pleased to see a GM recognize (if this is indeed the case) that there isn’t a #6 worthy candidate on the board and not succumb to the pressure of having to resuscitate this team.
by DrunkAmerican on Jan 5, 2010 11:19 AM PST reply actions
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
