Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Pro Quality. Fan Perspective.
Login-facebook
Around SBN: Watch Out For Cowboys UDFA Tim Benford

Should Seattle Claim Randy Moss?

Seattle is reportedly interested in claiming recently cut wide out Randy Moss. Thank you Cannonater for that link. Should the Seahawks claim Moss if he falls to them? It's a worthy question, especially in light of yesterday's offensive collapse and the Seahawks reported interest in Vincent Jackson, Brandon Marshall and Terrell Owens. Let's weigh the pros and cons.

Pros

Moss does not cost draft picks or future resources.

Minnesota cut Moss after trading a third round pick for him. He is now, apart from his $6.5 million salary, free. There is no league mandated salary cap, but we know that the Seahawks organization has set their own self-enforced cap. If Seattle has the room within their budget, it can sign Moss for no more than the asking.

Moss is a superstar wide receiver.

Moss is 33 and nearing 34, and his years as the best wide receiver in the NFL are probably over, but he is still one of the very best wide receivers in football. His speed, frame, ability to get away with offensive pass interference, ball skills and leaping ability force safety help deep. Anything but the very best corners in football are a liability matched one-on-one against Moss, and that ability to shift coverage schemes opens up underneath passing routes and the run game.

Seattle is competing for the NFC West.

The Seahawks sit atop the NFC West, but if they lose at home to the New York Giants, Seattle will fall into second place behind the St. Louis Rams. The Rams are 4-4 and own the tiebreaker. A player like Randy Moss could push Seattle over the top.

Claiming Moss allows Seattle to potentially re-sign or franchise Moss.

Claiming Moss gives Seattle the inside track to negotiate an extension, and if that's unfeasible, a chance to force Moss to stay through the franchise tag.

Claiming Moss and losing him in the off-season could lead to a valuable compensatory pick in 2012.

If Seattle does not re-sign and does not franchise Moss, he will sign with another team. Given that Moss should still command top dollar on the open market, the compensatory pick Seattle could regain could be as high as a third round pick.

Franchising Moss could lead to a trade.

If Seattle does franchise Moss but does not want to retain Moss, it could trade him for a draft pick. No team would be willing to spend the franchise price, but a second- or third-round pick, or some combination of picks, is entirely possible.

Cons

Star-divide

Seattle, as currently constructed, probably can not take advantage of Moss's ability.

Any one of Deon Butler, Mike Williams and Golden Tate could be a deep threat, but none have proven capable of stretching the field in this offense. Adding a player like Moss may be adding another capable receiver to an offense that needs everything but.

Moss is outspoken.

Moss earned his way off of the Vikings roster with a post-game, self-conducted interview in which he lauded his former teammates, coach and fans and criticized his current coach. It wasn't as twisted as it's been made out to be, but it was still the complete opposite of "buying in." If Moss signs with Seattle, and the Seahawks continue to field one of the worst passing offenses in the NFL, Moss will make noise. He will make people forget T.J. Houshmandzadeh very quickly.

Moss takes snaps away from younger players.

This is of questionable significance, because we do not know if Butler, Tate and Williams need regular season snaps to develop. However, unless he is retained, signing Moss helps Seattle this season but leaves the team rebuilding its offense next season.

Conclusion

Signing Moss is playing with fire. If, for instance, Matt Hasselbeck or the Seahawks offensive line are the true reasons Seattle is struggling so badly to pass the ball, Moss won't help much and won't be happy when his numbers plummet. He will complain, cause a media circus and perhaps force his ouster, as he did in Minnesota. In that scenario, Seattle is worse off for flirting with Moss. It hurts the team's chances in 2010, it removes any compensation Seattle might receive for him leaving as a free agent in 2011, and it becomes a black eye for Pete Carroll.

But signing Moss also has clear value, if Seattle can be sure Moss can succeed in this offense as constructed. Or, potentially, if the Seahawks think a shakeup of some sort, the return of Russell Okung or the substitution of Charlie Whitehurst for Matt Hasselbeck, can be enough for Moss to succeed in Seattle. In that scenario, Moss is both very valuable and very inexpensive for the 2010 Seahawks, and, potentially, the future of the Seahawks whether he's re-signed or not.

Comment 115 comments  |  0 recs  | 

Do you like this story?

Comments

Display:

I irrationally want this to happen soooooo badly

because I cursed the day we took Anthony Simmons as opposed to Randy Moss on draft day. I could see a wonderful combo of Moss deep and BMW underneath with Whitehurst slinging it to both. Make it so!

by TheBishop on Nov 1, 2010 3:06 PM PDT reply actions  

I think Moss would be a big boost if Whitehurst was starting.

He could sort of be a bailout for Charlie when he decides to just chuck it deep. I don’t know if Moss will help all that much with Matt starting. I just don’t think Matt has the arm strength to make Moss and asset to the team.

by MFAN on Nov 1, 2010 3:07 PM PDT reply actions  

I wonder how the Rams could not want him from the getgo,

or how they could still not want him after our interest has been publicized.

by jacobstevens on Nov 1, 2010 3:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, the Rams would be pretty damn good with him.

I’d probably even go as far as to say that the West would be theirs to lose. I like the idea of Whitehurst, BMFMW and Moss all giving opposing DB’s nightmares, though.

by KAJI on Nov 1, 2010 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would doubt the Rams would do that

Their head coach is still new in his tenure. They have a rookie starter, whom they are afraid to give the keys to the car in a lot of ways. Not the right mix.

Actually, to me the right team for Moss is probably Miami. The Dolphins have a crack at the playoffs but need to make up ground in a hurry. They also need someone opposite Brandon Whathisname to open things up for him and the running game.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 1, 2010 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Rams have WR problems. I will be surprised if they don't take him.

Of course they’re 13th on the waiver order. We’re 16th. For the time being (he’s not yet released, so if/when it becomes official, waivers (it’s 3 days, right?) could potentially push it out past this week which would shake up the order).

by jacobstevens on Nov 1, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does Moss want the Rams?

You gotta think he has effective veto power over any team. He can scare any em off if he wants. I might still choose STL if I was him, but who knows.

by michaelfox99 on Nov 1, 2010 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

To claim him simply for the compensation pick or a franchise/trade is worth it

It’s also worth noting that (not that our franchise really needs to care about the cash) the Moss salary is pro-rated and will not cost the full $6.5M for the remainder of the year.

As a side note, instead of waiving Moss, I’m starting to think that Childress just waived himself.

by biju on Nov 1, 2010 3:12 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

It's worth it for that alone

Sign him for that, put him on the bench, and let the young guys play. Ha. Won’t happen, and he’d be pissed, but whatever: 3rd round pick!

by B.B.Finnegan on Nov 1, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

IMO

Moss could only be good news IF the Hawks benched Hass for CW AND CW can throw a good deep ball.

After yesterday, I’d be game to try…

by lackskill on Nov 1, 2010 3:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Am I the only one who think Moss is garbage?

His ability is rapidly matching the US housing market.

by Spin Forever on Nov 1, 2010 3:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I agree with John that he's still one of the best wideouts in the league.

Of course, that comes with the downside that he seems to have fallen back on his old dramatic ways.

by KAJI on Nov 1, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

But he is a 2-position player.

He can give up on plays and then he can ask his own questions in the press conference?

Where was your effort, Randy? Where was your effort?

by jacobstevens on Nov 1, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

How much would Pete Carroll's influence have on his off-the-field demeanor?

I’m thinking if he can take a fat MW—prior connections aside—and turn him into our number one or number two offensive weapon, he can handle a Randy Moss, who has to have been humbled somewhat by his release.

by THolt on Nov 1, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mike got himself unfat by himself . . .

I would be more worried if Carroll could help his ON-the-Field demeanor.

by Spin Forever on Nov 1, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Moss is one of those guys that Carroll's schtick doesn't impress

and BMW turned his life around all on his own. All Carroll did was give him a chance and demand excellence from him.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Nov 1, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like John's pros and cons analysis

but Randy Moss is a head case. Why would you want a guy on your team that quits on plays and has a gigantic ego? Dude takes his entire talent and opportunities for granted. Unless the plan is to get draft picks for him in some way, I would think it makes more sense to just stay away from the guy.

by kurlare on Nov 1, 2010 3:39 PM PDT reply actions  

See my reply to GftLH.

I think we’re ignoring the Big Balls Pete factor here. Although the deep ball concern is entirely legitimate.

by THolt on Nov 1, 2010 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not the

quits on plays part. Only superstar receivers can get away with bullshit like that. Did Jerry Rice ever quit on a catchable pass?

by kurlare on Nov 1, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm in the same boat that the only way it would make sense is if CW is the QB.

But I’m tired of Seattle teams getting superstars at the end of or past their primes. It seems that WR is the least of our worries right now.

by Hopefulmsfan on Nov 1, 2010 3:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Given Moss' tools, I don't necessarily think having a cannon-armed QB is necessary.

Moss could just be one more canine in the mouth that is our offense, nibbling away down the field. Like that annoying friend everyone has who takes forever to finish his god damn sandwich. It’s a fucking sandwich. Finish it already.

by THolt on Nov 1, 2010 3:51 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

No thx.

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

http://seahawksblog.wordpress.com

by Nick Andron on Nov 1, 2010 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Claim Moss now!

Claim him and then get Okung healthy and we will have quite impressive potential on Offense…and if that potential is parlayed into actual results and puts points on the board that takes tons of pressure off the Defense which has been admirable so far this season.

Shawn Bates will never die....so long as we remember THE penalty shot!

by Metalstar on Nov 1, 2010 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Agreed.

Lots of season left. Lots of time to get healthy, and lots of time to experiment with Whitehurt. PC may have tricks up his sleeve here.

by THolt on Nov 1, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Moss and BMW

would be a nightmare for the opposing corners. Two big receivers with good hands.

by Flamefox111 on Nov 1, 2010 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

This team has been so boom or bust this year...

…that you have to claim him. He doesn’t mortgage anything, and the whole “black eye” for Pete Carroll is, to me, irrelevant. He has a lot capital right now, I say he use it.

by THolt on Nov 1, 2010 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Moss definitely wouldn't make this offense any worse.

I would rather have a healthy O-line than Moss but since that isn’t really an option I’ll definitely take Moss and the potential of picking up a draft pick over what we’ve got now.

by wetzelcoal on Nov 1, 2010 4:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Easy.

As long as Moss gets the ball, he will be happy. Bates likes to throw deep, and Moss can overcome bad passes and snatch the ball away from defenders.

Also, as a #2, BMW will be an even bigger mismatch.

That being said, I doubt we have the waiver priority to get him.

by grinch11 on Nov 1, 2010 4:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Biggest Con

Matt Hasselbeck.

If Seattle was 4-3 under Charlie Whitehurst I’d say yes in a heartbeat.

Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.

by SSreporters on Nov 1, 2010 4:17 PM PDT reply actions  

I do agree with that.

I can easily envision him not being satisfied with Hasselbeck. I just challenge the notion that Moss would not make a difference or would be mired in ineffectiveness like in Oakland because of Hasselbeck’s arm.

by jacobstevens on Nov 2, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I can also throw to him, it doesn't mean I'll be accurate.

Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.

by SSreporters on Nov 1, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree.

How many times have we brought in big-time free agent WRs only to have Matt struggle getting them the ball?

by DetectiveM on Nov 1, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

mmm... I'd pass

We really don’t need his distraction… I’d also deeply discount the ability to franchise him after the season. Two pretty respective franchises in the last 3 weeks have decided he’s not worth their trouble, and I’m pretty sure there are better, younger players that we’d rather put the tag on.

by farmer cam on Nov 1, 2010 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Does he play offense?

I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus

by EequalsMc2 on Nov 1, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Source

From AdamJT13

Because of a rule that had never been revealed until after last year’s comp picks were awarded, the Pittsburgh Steelers got only a fifth-round comp pick for Alan Faneca, even though he signed for $7.8 million per season, played more than 98 percent of the Jets’ offensive snaps and made the Pro Bowl. A rule stipulates that a team cannot receive more than a fifth-round comp pick for a player with 10 or more seasons of NFL experience. After the rule was revealed, I found several times in previous seasons when it had been invoked.

by Kryten on Nov 1, 2010 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think then Schneider loves this deal

I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus

by EequalsMc2 on Nov 1, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, I think it's great.

Seriously.

I didn’t know about the rule before now, but I like it.

A) You’ve already had the player for 10 years— you don’t deserve that pick for the player after you’ve already gotten that much out of him. (And if you get him in trade, then Caveat emptor.)

B) Unlike the ridiculousness of the rookies getting paid front loaded contracts that instantly make their unproven asses the highest paid players in the league, this benefits the vets. It makes it more likely they find a job with a new team, as the team is unafraid of being forced to pay too high a price for the vet when you factor both salary AND future value of a lost high round draft pick.

Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.

by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 1, 2010 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

But YOUR team doesn't necessarily have him for 10 years. Maybe it should be a 10-and-5 thing.

You get a 3rd-4th if he’s been in the league 10 years, but with your team less than 5 years, and it’s a 5th if you’ve had that player for 5 years?

by BrettJMiller on Nov 2, 2010 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

In which case you've invested less and risked less

When you sign a free agent, you don’t invest a draft pick, you aren’t investing time for his development, and you aren’t taking the same level of risk (if a guy’s been in the league for five years, you ought to know what you’re getting).

Caveat: You might be in the position of having invested a draft pick, though. Hmm… on the one hand, it’s better if teams & players have some good mobility options (in case a player is a bad fit, or a team is just overloaded at his position); but on the other hand, GMs shouldn’t be rewarded for spending too much on trades.

A “higher pick” trigger like you suggested, as a measure of risk & investment, seems almost backwards. It’s a deterrent against signing veteran free agents to 5+ year deals.

My solution: There should be one compensatory scale which applies only to a team that had the rights to a player when he achieved UFA status. Because in those cases, you will have invested a draft pick (either directly or via trade), developmental time, and probably some risk.

There should be a second scale, with less compensation, that applies to younger players who acquired UFA status by being released instead of by accruing years. This would cover players like Justin Forsett, allowing the Seahawks some compensation if he left in free agency at about the time that he would have achieved UFA status by accrual.

Finally, a third scale should apply to veterans who were signed to a contract after the exclusive rights expired (either as a UFA or a under a franchise/transition tag). The compensation should be minimal, and it should be inserted into the draft schedule and not taken away from the team that signs the veteran. Like whiskey chainsaw said, that system makes it harder for mediocre veterans to find work.

by Jason_D on Nov 2, 2010 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Take him.

The last thing we need from this ailing offense is a playmaker. He’s virtually cost nothing, and if he becomes a distraction we can release him with minimal loss. If he ends up playing well, than we might have one of the best 1-2’s with Mike Williams and him. Add to the fact that we are low in depth and our receivers did not do well at all against Oakland, I’m all for getting him.

I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus

by EequalsMc2 on Nov 1, 2010 8:25 PM PDT reply actions  

I say take him

Though not really publicized, I think Carrol has shown that he’s willing to put players on the inactive list for games that don’t perform in practice or up to his standards. Golden Tate, for one.

I don’t know much about Moss’s precision route running, but he still has dangerous speed. He might make for a good screen option for Hasselbeck, or more conventionally if CW takes the field. He comes with no strings attached, no long-term committments, and a relatively cheap salary. I don’t think Seattle is really hurting for receivers, but one more can never hurt. Teamed up with Williams, he can give Seattle a real one-two punch, though again, this relies on having a QB that can take advantage of Moss’s speed and range. Branch and Housh didn’t magically become slower or more inept when they came to Seattle, but it sure seemed that way. I worry that for all the benefits, Moss will become another face in the crowd.

But if nothing else, we can hold onto him on the inactive list or in a slot position where he can’t really hurt anything. Tossing him after the season nets us a comp pick, while trading him will likely get us something similar. Though I have to wonder, if Seattle claims him off waivers where half the teams have already passed picking him up for free, does he still have value as trade bait? After paying what we did for Lynch out of next year’s choices, I’m all for restocking our draft lineup, but I think a 4th-round pick might be generous once the offseason rolls around.

In any power struggle between Moss and PC, Moss will lose. Worse case scenario is that he comes in, underperforms, starts talking smack about Hasselbeck’s arm or O line support, and gets the boot within 3-4 weeks, in which case we’re out his pro-rated salary and the goodwill of however many fans bought Seahawks Moss jerseys. Best-case is that he performs decently through the rest of the season, keeps his muzzle on, and looks to get traded with decent value in the offseason. I can’t really see a scenario where we try to hold onto him long term, or longer than a year-to-year basis. Once we fall into that trap, when his demons rear their ugly heads, then we become forced to part ways while liable for guaranteed money and watch as Moss, Branch-like, signs elsewhere for the league minimum and we end up subsidizing some other team’s new WR.

by Clendy on Nov 1, 2010 8:54 PM PDT reply actions  

If we pick up Moss

Carroll would have to bench Hasselbeck in favor of Clipboard Jesus ( is that what we’re calling him? I keep hearing Black Label Society singing Doomsday Jesus in my head, but its Clipboard Jesus… “Clipboard Jesus we need you now”).

I just watched a montage of CW at Clemson and he could definitely throw the deep ball. However, he might come out like a 49er QB and set records in suck. I’m not a fan of the messiah way of football, but I think Moss might give CW what he needs to be successful. But chances are good that starting CW would just result in another variety of suck.

by Professor on Nov 1, 2010 9:30 PM PDT reply actions  

See what we have in him.

But I’m willing to wait until after the Giants game. Matt might get obliterated enough to force the change, even through no fault of his own.

Giants D-line: Bull. Seahawks O-line: China Shop.

Hasselbeck: Thin China.

Start Charlie Whitehurst. / #24 = Beast Mode! Welcome, Marshawn

by Misfit74 on Nov 1, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

We need Randy Moss (I think)...

I think the seahawks should just do whatever he wants as long as he (Moss) plays and doesn’t get suspended…including:

*paying any fines for him not to talk to the press.

*providing only the best psychiatrist and medications at team expense….

*providing role model of his choice to give him verbal and physical hugs when he needs them. I know we can’t hire Bill Belecheck, but maybe we can get his brother, cousin or former roomates to help him out.

by Kittrick on Nov 2, 2010 12:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Can we sign Griffey for veteranosity?

And to tickle Matt?

Thank you, Walter Jones.
Thank you, Ken Griffey Jr.

by thebyron on Nov 2, 2010 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sign Moss?

Does he play O-line?

John Hancock

by mrcoffee1969 on Nov 2, 2010 9:22 AM PDT reply actions  

I know this site is mainly for objectivity and football analysis. However, Moss is a certified dick and I don't want him on my favorite team.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AgJuJeClKWwlP.kyzSI6Ngo5nYcB?slug=ms-mossbehavior110210

The one bad thing about sports is it allows people like Randy Moss to exist without the repercussions for otherwise unacceptable behavior. My guess it that his boasting of “having money” will be short lived.

Okay.... I'm in.

by The Manchild on Nov 2, 2010 10:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Not that I have any reason to disbelieve Michael Silver

But I don’t necessarily have any reason to believe him either. Why didn’t we ever hear of this behavior in NE? Are they just smarter (as an organization) than the Vikings for not letting this slip out? Or is it fabrication?

I’m just not ready to immediately believe all of the stories that will come out giving the Vikings an out for trading away a 3rd rounder and then waiving him a month later. That just reeks of a franchise trying their hardest to save face.

by biju on Nov 2, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sounds like a perfect fit....

last year.

/Dirtbag era.

Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.

by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 2, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

You raise a good question. I don't know, but I have one thought.

It’s rather hard to be the alpha dog around Tom Brady. Kind of hard to establish independence under Bill Belichick. Yet Hattiesburg has seen first hand who wears the pants in the Childress-Favre marriage. This is oversimplification, but just to get the point across, that organizational and peer culture can affect this kind of stuff. I think it’s clear Moss did not want to leave New England. This is who Moss is, but that doesn’t mean it’s chronically persistent.

by jacobstevens on Nov 2, 2010 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

As a side note...

I read that Percy Harvin was very upset at the Vikings for letting Moss go. Apparently he was mentoring Harvin.

We have two young, talented WRs. They certainly could use mentoring.

I say bring Moss in.

by biju on Nov 2, 2010 10:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Hmm.

How much mentoring could he possibly have done in a week?!?

Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.

by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 2, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

The wrong kind of mentoring, according to the rumors.

Apparently there was concern that he was a negative influence on the impressionable young Mr. Harvin.

Thank you, Walter Jones.
Thank you, Ken Griffey Jr.

by thebyron on Nov 3, 2010 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd take him, just to make sure that that the Ram's don't get him.

Although, I understand that the Rams would have the option of signing him before us anyways, so it’s a moot point.

by TMann_2 on Nov 2, 2010 1:40 PM PDT reply actions  

The rams have a worse record than us.

They could take him to make sure we couldn’t get him, but not the other way around.

by grinch11 on Nov 2, 2010 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

SEA!

FanPosts

Community blog posts and discussion.

Recommended FanPosts

Einstein_www-txt2pic-com_small
On Pete Carroll and Previous QB Competitions
Einstein_www-txt2pic-com_small
A Fan's Reflection: Things I've Learned from a Casual 12th
Small
Seahawks Sacks: Statistical Analysis

Recent FanPosts

Small
Portland Seahawks Fans: Where You Be?
Small
Help Me Understand How Irvin Will be Used
Turbin_game_uni_small
Hand Size and Quarterbacks
Small
Should Seattle Go After Kellen Winslow?
Small
Football where the head is sacred
Horsey_small
What Doug Baldwin Had to Say About Seahawk QBs (or How DB Throws MF Under the Bus)
Retro_seattle_seahawks_by_mtspknwildcat_small
Dynasty League Fantasy Football
Small
Seahawks 2012 Active Roster Predictions
Marty_small
You should want Flynn to be our starter this year

+ New FanPost All FanPosts >


Managing Editor/Lead Writer

Screen_shot_2012-05-04_at_10 Danny Kelly

Staff Writers/Editors

Screen_shot_2011-01-05_at_9 Scruffy Lefty

Small BrianL

Avatar_small Benne

Olympiabeer_small Tyler Jorgensen

Madhatter_small Thomas Beekers

Profilepic_small DJ C-Raig

897267_o_small Kenneth Arthur

Sbn_pic_small Jacson Bevens

Photo__1__small Charlie Todaro

Staff Writers

Small Joshua Kasparek

Photo_small Matt Erickson

Davis_small Davis Hsu

Profile2_small Rob Staton

208114_505637750968_23709013_30160241_9483_n_small Scott Enyeart

Elephant_pink_clothes_small Chris Sully

Seattle_seahawk_white_1600_reasonably_small_small Derek Stephens

Ace_small Ben Harbaugh

Bu_fb_2_small Daniel Hill

Rob_small Rob Davies