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On Charlie Whitehurst

We never knew if Charlie Whitehurst was struggling in practice. It was suggested. Suggested as an explanation for why Seattle would invest so heavily in Whitehurst but not play him even though Matt Hasselbeck was struggling so badly. And however you split on the Hasselbeck debate, he is struggling very badly. Be it him or his surrounding talent, the result is the second worst season of Hasselbeck's career. If we assume Pete Carroll and John Schneider traded for Whitehurst as a response to Hasselbeck's 2009, then 2010, in which Hasselbeck is completing a lower percentage of passes for fewer yards per attempt, should hasten Whitehurst's arrival but hasn't. It hasn't and many would point to last Sunday's blowout loss to the Giants as why.

That presumption is not supported by statistics. Whitehurst was bad, but New York has made quite a few quarterbacks look bad this season. The Giants dominated Matt Schaub and the Texans. Houston has the second best offense in football by DVOA and the third best by ER. To put that into perspective, if Houston played Seattle on a neutral field, the Texans would be expected to score 600 points and amass 4,000 yards of total offense. Really.

No it's not supported by statistics though Whitehurst's line was rotten. It's not supported by statistics because statistics rarely support a conclusion based off a sample of 23. But if practice is the measure and Seattle is determining its starting quarterback through practice, it's pretty obvious why Matt continues to start over Charlie. He knows the offense better, can execute a wider variety of plays, make more reads within a play, and though Hasselbeck frustrates the crap out of us with his own particular brand of self-immolation, he's mostly free of the stoogery of bumbled snaps and missed cadences and infinite drop backs. Hasselbeck is undoubtedly a more skilled quarterback than Whitehurst.

If Carroll is preaching "Win Forever" and "Always Compete" and "Buy In" then there are not many ways to justify benching the quarterback that is 4-3 and led the team to the top of the NFC West. The quarterback that is out-competing his rival in practice. The quarterback that commands the locker room and helped spread the message of buying in, and himself bought in.

The Hasselbeck question has become something of a culture clash. On one side is the orthodox and traditional that believe systems work, starters start for a reason, and great players earn loyalty long after their stats nosedive. On the other is the progressive and radical that believe systems are meant to be overcome, loyalty is a euphemism for corruption, and the name lives long after the talent dies. We're all somewhere within that spectrum. We all reacted to the reinstatement of Hasselbeck as starter with a different mix of explanations why. Some of us are comforted. Over the last week, many times have I stumbled upon optimism stemming from Hasselbeck returning. It's as a major reason the Seahawks will win in Arizona. Some of us are frustrated. Over the last week, maybe at Field Gulls more than anywhere else, the calls to give Whitehurst another chance have provoked more enthusiasm and vexation and angry rebuttal than almost anything else this season. It has a overshadowed a potentially season-defining inter-divisional matchup in Arizona.

In five years, I am pretty sure Charlie Whitehurst will be remembered mostly as prominent figure in the end of the Mike Holmgren and Matt Hasselbeck Era. Great quarterback prospects like Matthew Stafford, who were great quarterback prospects in high school and have cannon arms and declare before they can drink and whose agents don't fluster over leaked Wonderlic score, great quarterback prospects typically fail. About half are eventually shuffled out of the league or forced into permanent backup status. Of those that stick, many will never be much better than average. Long shot prospects like Whitehurst are underdogs to even become starters, and nothing he has done in his first season with the Seahawks has changed that career trajectory.

The hunt for a franchise quarterback can be a harrowing task. The 49ers thought they had it good. They drafted Alex Smith first overall and as Smith struggled and the 49ers rebuilt, San Francisco was able to build around him with marquee talents like Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, Patrick Willis, Joe Staley, Michael Crabtree, Anthony Davis and Mike Iupati. San Francisco almost did it "the right way." The way fans and analysts and beat reporters can all agree on, slowly and through the draft, but Smith just never developed. He has now started 40 games over five seasons, but his run in San Francisco appears to be over.

Troy Smith, of no pedigree and little chance of becoming a franchise quarterback, is now the 49ers starter. San Francisco seems better for the move. A home win against the Rams and a road loss by the Seahawks puts the 49ers within one game of first place in the NFC West. Maybe San Francisco is a long shot to ever be a Super Bowl contender with Smith under center, but fans of Alex Smith's pedigree and profile and presumed potential could only ignore overwhelming failure for so long. Troy Smith may not ignite fantasies of a 49ers dynasty, but he gives the team some of kind of future and some kind of present.

That is what I hope for out of Charlie Whitehurst. It's unlikely Whitehurst ever becomes a franchise quarterback, but between franchise quarterbacks and the Alex Smiths and Matt Hasselbecks of the world, there is a strata of good but not great quarterbacks. The Kyle Ortons and Tony Romos and Shaun Hills and David Garrards of this era; the Jon Kitnas and Warren Moons and Jim Zorns that populate Seahawks history: Good quarterbacks that help teams escape the cellar and end ceaseless rebuild and become something like a functioning football team again. For a time, Matt Hasselbeck was a franchise quarterback. With Hasselbeck the Seahawks were not backdoor contenders or playoff fodder trounced and forgotten but happy for the opportunity; but dominant, proud, victorious. But that's gone and chasing our own particular fantasy of reclaimed glory is a big part of how we ended in this mess.

Whitehurst was playing in the Jeremy Bates version of the Seneca Wallace offense. He knew his primary read and he could make a basic read of the defense. Shortly after taking the snap, the ball was out. Bates kept it simple and that kept the ball flying, often incomplete. Whitehurst didn't escape pressure because the Giants dialed down the blitz. He attempted 23 passes and the Giants blitzed him nine times. They also blitzed his fumbled snap. His ability to take the snap and wing it speaks both to Whitehurst's still limited mastery of the playbook but also his ability to follow orders. Compare how Whitehurst played to starts by Seneca Wallace and Charlie Frye. All three played in dumbed down offenses, but Wallace and Frye broke the pocket, took coverage sacks, made poorly planned scrambles and looked both overwhelmed and incapable. Whitehurst by contrast looked limited but functional. He stayed in the pocket, he watched routes develop and, for the most part, he put it where it was supposed to be.

23 pass attempts, some in desperate situations, some in garbage time, fail to define Whitehurst. He isn't surely interception prone, though unless he learns to look off receivers and not lock on, he will be. He isn't surely wild. Most of his passes landed where he targeted, and most of those that didn't were less about poor accuracy and more about route confusion and poor mechanics. Charlie spent so little time in the pocket, it's hard to measure his awareness of pressure. He broke the pocket once flashing the infinite drop back. On another play he opted to throw off his back foot with Chester Pitts in his grill rather than scramble and reset. I still think pocket awareness will determine if Whitehurst can become a bridge quarterback or just another Frye, Friesz or Gelbaugh.

But that's where I am slotting him. That's what he looks like to me. If read and recognition is a kind of tool, Whitehurst looks significantly enough incapable that I doubt even after a few seasons starting he will show much development. Whitehurst will live on first and second reads and checkdowns. He isn't Matt in his prime or Tom Brady or Drew Brees or Peyton Manning. And if his read and recognition are never likely to develop much beyond adequate, Whitehurst is never likely to be much more than a Jake Plummer or Jeff Blake or Neil O'Donnell.

That's not too exciting. It's not SUPER BOWL. But it's a start. And it's how most broken franchises crawl out of the crater they've crash landed into.

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I'm surprised you don't write in Word or Open Office

then just paste it into the box on the site when you’re finished.

That’s what I used to do for online classes in college. It lets you save your progress easily, spell and grammar check, and gives you a handy archive on your computer as well as on the site, just in case the worst happens.

by JeffJ254 on Nov 12, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Sometimes I write in Word, but less and less

Other than saving progress, it doesn’t offer anything I want.

by John Morgan on Nov 12, 2010 6:37 PM PST up reply actions  

If he becomes Arizona's Jake Plummer, he doesn't need an offensive line, he'll carry the team alone.

"You tell me with confidence that you think Charlie could have done better and I will laugh beer in your face." JohnnyOsprey

by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 12, 2010 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I love this post

I agree so much. He has a chance to be adequate. I’ll take it.

by stufr on Nov 12, 2010 6:02 PM PST reply actions  

But bad with past success is so much better!

"You tell me with confidence that you think Charlie could have done better and I will laugh beer in your face." JohnnyOsprey

by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 12, 2010 6:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Its like a couple of chicks

Matt is your ex who you know you probably can score with, but it won’t be good and you feel bad about it afterwords. Charlie is the new chick that you hope to score with. She might not be the one, but it could be really fun for a while.

by stufr on Nov 12, 2010 6:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Why chose? If you are going to shoot, shoot for the moon.

One word.

Threesome.

"You tell me with confidence that you think Charlie could have done better and I will laugh beer in your face." JohnnyOsprey

by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 12, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I prefer short and brutal.

to the present long slow and tortuous misery…

"You tell me with confidence that you think Charlie could have done better and I will laugh beer in your face." JohnnyOsprey

by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 12, 2010 8:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I think of charlie

like the one who sucks like there’s no tomorrow…but hey the bitch has got a beard so she’s gotta go.

by dingoeatbaby on Nov 17, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Cunningham was a great QB.

But he is a bad QB to compare Whitehurst to. Cunningham was Michael Vick before there was a Michael Vick. Whitehurst will never be that guy. Though I like the comparison to Jon Kitna. If Whitehurst turns out to be as good as Kitna I will be happy. I’m not expecting him to be another Hasselbeck but as long as he is a solid QB who can manage the game, think Trent Dilfer (Superbowl Winner), I will be happy.

The New York Islanders....they make opposing goalies look gooooood.

by Metalstar on Nov 12, 2010 6:10 PM PST reply actions  

I think he was referring to Cunningham version 2.0, the Minnesota version.

"You tell me with confidence that you think Charlie could have done better and I will laugh beer in your face." JohnnyOsprey

by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 12, 2010 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

15-1

Was that not the record of Cunningham’s only full season as a starter for Minnesota? Pretty damned good, however I understand that he had Randy Moss to throw to deep, no one threw a prettier deep ball than Cunningham, and Cris Carter as his possesion receiver and a prime Robert Smith as his workhorse running back. That is a formidable cache of weapons to make a QB’s job a hell of a lot easier.

The New York Islanders....they make opposing goalies look gooooood.

by Metalstar on Nov 12, 2010 6:42 PM PST up reply actions  

He did have a lot of weapons.

But he’d matured a bit by then and was willing to throw more from the pocket.

Goddamn that team was good.

by djafrot on Nov 12, 2010 11:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he was comparing their ability to read defenses

Cunningham was always option 1, sometimes option 2, run like hell
whereas Whitehurst would be option 1, sometimes option 2, try and force it in there or throw it away

Thusfar I’m pleased that his throwing accuracy hasn’t looked bad. With a very strong arm and good accuracy, two read might be good enough. Also makes sense how Cutler only got sacked 11 times when Bates was the OC in Denver. When he has a strong armed and accurate QB, maybe that means getting rid of the ball quick to reduce sacks while sacrificing the risk of the interception? Just a thought, i don’t really know.

by B.B.Finnegan on Nov 12, 2010 6:34 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree about Bates' offense.

At least it appeared that way with Charlie last week. He was quick to fire those passes and he did stay out of trouble sack-wise. Though how much of that was the Hawks retaining seven blockers and how much was actually the play calling and Charlie able to make quick passes?

by sadface on Nov 12, 2010 9:01 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I still blame that on the WR's.

His grasp of the offense was very good. On a couple of those INT’s it was pretty clear that someone just made an incorrect read, and I’m guessing that it wasn’t O’Donnell’s fault.

by djafrot on Nov 13, 2010 12:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought Dennis Erickson should have benched Moon for Kitna in 1998

It was clear the 40-year-old Moon was scuffling halfway through the season, but Dennis was too afraid of trusting the 2nd-year college free agent. I don’t know if we would have made the playoffs, or even if Holmgren still would have dumped him after the 1999 season, but a part of me believes that if Kitna got into a few more games in 1998 he would have been sharper in 1999, and even if he still left the team after that he would have found a better opportunity, and had a better career (even though this one has nearly netted him 30,000 yards).

Whitehurst will be better in 2011 the more he plays in 2010, even if he is just north of awful. Hasselbeck is as good as he’ll ever be,and like Moon 12 years ago, he won’t be back next season. Even a bridge to the next franchise QB has some value.

by J.L. White on Nov 12, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

What are your thoughts on playing a rookie?

For the more knowledgeable out there, is there any consensus on whether it’s better for a rookie QB to be thrown in to the fire, or sit on the bench for a year or two and learn.

If The Hawks draft a QB next year, is there value in having a bridge QB who lets him sit on the bench for his rookie year? Especially considering that the rest of the team will still be of ‘rebuilding’ caliber.

by Snuffleupagus on Nov 12, 2010 7:51 PM PST reply actions  

My understanding is, in brief, that it's better if a rookie is capable of starting right away

but it’s not known if a quarterback develops better on the field or in practice.

From a Seahawks perspective, if Okung can return and stay healthy, Williams is retained and right tackle is shored up, I would be a-ok starting a rookie.

by John Morgan on Nov 12, 2010 7:55 PM PST up reply actions  

There's very little any rookie QB can learn sitting on the bench

It just matters how comfortable the coach is with putting up with rookie mistakes. I think it’s best to have a rookie compete with an established starter and earn his spot, but you learn little on the sidelines. Just look at Charlie.

by J.L. White on Nov 12, 2010 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

i dont think there is a right or wrong way.

At least not a definative answer. Carson Palmer, Matthew Stafford, and Joe Flaco have all had different levels of success and guys like Alex Smith and Matt Lienart have had different levels of failure.

by sadface on Nov 12, 2010 9:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

How about Aaron Rodgers and Philip Rivers?

I don’t think there is one right way, and it’s evident that some quarterbacks can learn “sitting on the bench.”

by John Morgan on Nov 12, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe I was a touch glib

It’s possible that, if Rodgers had started his rookie year, he would have been shitty his first 2-3 years before becoming a good QB; maybe he would have become as good as he is now sooner(or gotten hurt or gotten traded). I still believe a young QB learns more from a year on the field than a year on the bench….but I can also see situations where it can be counter-productive.

by J.L. White on Nov 12, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

whats your opinion on Carr?

He was effectively ruined by having a shitty O-line. Who knows what he would’ve done had he sat for a couple years on a different team.

by sadface on Nov 12, 2010 10:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

If Carr didn't play for a shitty expansion team....who knows?

Maybe poor coaching stunted his growth…maybe Carr was never destined to be good. Thar 3/4 throwing motion never seemed right to me. That was an extreme situation that most QBs will never encounter.

by J.L. White on Nov 13, 2010 12:11 AM PST up reply actions  

We all reacted to the reinstatement of Hasselbeck as starter with a different mix of explanations why.

IMO, realizing that CW is not the answer to winning NOW, coach put Matt back in to finish out the last 8 games of his career. That is, if his body can hold out long enough. Either way it will lead to a top 10 – 15 pick and (hopefully) our QB of the future. One thing is sure, first round needs to be a QB followed by four straight O-line picks.

John Hancock

by mrcoffee1969 on Nov 13, 2010 7:14 AM PST reply actions  

I don't think your "one thing is sure" is at all sure.

What if the position we draft in finds us without the ideally targeted QB? Take one PC doesn’t believe in? What if a franchise changing player is available in that range but at another position?

And you also assume that the answer to winning now is Hasselbeck, or that the coaches thinks that. I think John brought up a great point here:

“If Carroll is preaching “Win Forever” and “Always Compete” and “Buy In” then there are not many ways to justify benching the quarterback that is 4-3 and led the team to the top of the NFC West. The quarterback that is out-competing his rival in practice. The quarterback that commands the locker room and helped spread the message of buying in, and himself bought in."

It may have absolutely nothing to do with results on the field, but in changing the culture of the locker room, and owning the franchise direction in the long run.

"You tell me with confidence that you think Charlie could have done better and I will laugh beer in your face." JohnnyOsprey

by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 13, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I think that this happened this year
What if the position we draft in finds us without the ideally targeted QB? Take one PC doesn’t believe in? What if a franchise changing player is available in that range but at another position?

Clearly PC didn’t believe in anyone except for perhaps bradford. He may have known that he didn’t want any of the QBs that would be available at 6 at all when he traded for CW. If that is the case it wouldn’t be surprising at all if we passed up on a QB and continued the rest of the team. It is fine for us to do since we have several areas that need some work, it just adjust the window of when we will be most competitive. There are many average QBs who have won superbowls though when enough talent was placed around them.

by stufr on Nov 13, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Mat is not going to make this

a winning team this year. Charlie will not either. Thus the top 10 – 15 first rounder. This team needs a QB really badly. What it may need even more is depth at O-line.

John Hancock

by mrcoffee1969 on Nov 14, 2010 7:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I get that.

We’re not in disagreement about Matt, and I think Charlie is likely more of the same, but a different version of it… however, I do like the long term improvement potential for him.

What I’m disagreeing with you on is that A) there will be a QB in the “10-15” range of the first round that we want, and B) that we need above all else, to select a QB first.

I actually would rather go with Charlie next year and use our 1st on OL, where you can often get better talent for the value at the 10-20 range that we’ll likely end up in.

"You tell me with confidence that you think Charlie could have done better and I will laugh beer in your face." JohnnyOsprey

by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 14, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Thoughts+Opinions on Kevin Kolb?

Assuming Philly will part with him for a 1st round pick, would you take him vs. Locker/Newton/Mallett?

by diehard82 on Nov 13, 2010 8:24 AM PST reply actions  

I really haven't been that impressed with him this year

I don’t think he has the “franchise QB” type of potential. He will be good not great.
I’ll have to look at some stats to back it up, but I don’t feel the same this year as during the off season.

by stufr on Nov 13, 2010 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I think Kolb is still pretty raw

That said, he is much further along in the development process than any rookie QB would be. If he becomes available, I wouldn’t be pissed if the Seahawks traded for him. This is coming from a fervent Locker supporter.

by NViera on Nov 13, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

it's a good thought - but not for a first round pick

I’m not sure what all picks the Hawks have next year, but I know they got rid of a 2nd rounder for 3rd round tendered Charlie. Once Hasselbeck is on the Browns next year, no matter how you feel about his abilities, Hawks will obviously have to bring in another QB. Personally, I think first round next season they really need to go with an O-lineman. No matter who is QB next year, they will be set up to fail if we can’t run the ball yet again.

And side note, I like Jake Locker, but I think best case for everyone would be him going to a team that has a quality enough QB that Jake can learn behind for a few years. He just looks soooo raw, I’m afraid that if he’s a starter year one he will fail so horribly that he might not be in the league long.

by dundundun on Nov 13, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Locker's a smart dude.

I had some class with him (don’t recall which) but he was obviously not a “dumb jock.” I think developing him with PC is our best bet. Cam Newton is intriguing too, but how does the scandal come into play here?

by THolt on Nov 13, 2010 7:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

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Damn phone. Absolute cannon, good reads, somewhat mobile. I’d still prefer Locker, particularly with PC as his mentor.

by THolt on Nov 13, 2010 7:50 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

But if we're saying CW cannot be an elite qb because he lacks on the mental side...

Even though he has all the physical tools,

how can we justify drafting a QB in Locker, who is most noted, this season as well as seasons past, for making bad decisions and inaccuracy – despite his physical tools?

Wouldn’t we be getting a bigger, stronger, faster, (ok) with incomparable intangibles, player – who still locks on to his first or second read and makes bad decisions?

And again, if we’re all in agreement that the decision making and ability to play under pressure are the defining characteristics of a great QB – it would be a bad move to take one who we already know lacks in comparison to some other QB’s on the board.

If it looks like we can’t get a Luck-like signal caller (or as some one has suggested, a Mallett would do just fine), then i would urge the FO to take defensive line help wherever we can get it instead.

This season has already shown it can make a significant difference to QB play if we can reduce the amount of times we are chasing a game through a more dominant defense. Hello Paea/Bowers/Fairly/ even Nevis. Or if none of those are available, we take offensive line help instead – but the defensive line class is deeper so there should be some one at least.

To those who think we should go OL all the way… remember before the season we all acknowledged we have amongst the worst DL in football? Yeah, nothing has changed, Clemons/Balmer/Bryant etc. are still clearly not the answer. And think about it: if Locklear is really as bad as JM says he is – almost anyone could replace him and immediately improve the offense…. why bother spending resources on that when we have so many other holes to fill?

by Branston on Nov 14, 2010 6:42 AM PST up reply actions  

How are Clemons/Balmer/Bryant not the answer?

Pretty damned good run defense, and a halfway decent pass rush. An elite pass rusher would be great, sure, but that isn’t a hole that’s easy to fill.

by djafrot on Nov 14, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Perhaps you're right: those 3 plus Cole and M!!B!! may be a mostly solid bunch...

Maybe even good enough to put us in the upper tier. But who is behind them?
Brock/Siavii/Terrill/Wilson/Davis? How much did our much vaunted run defense suffer after the loss of 1 or 2 of those starters?

Still agreeing with you but have to say i’m a little unconvinced about our defense. Maybe its just jitters after the last 2 games and not giving them enough credit.

What i am contending is this: if we don’t go for a qb 1st round, maybe the face doesn’t fit or some one gets there first, do we have a bigger need on the OL or DL? (or some other position)

And to me it seems most beneficial to go for some DL talent to complement the good things already being shown by our DB’s. If we can just get that pressure on the QB we may have ourselves a legit, dominant defense. That’s a pretty exciting prospect!

Having said that, are you saying its more difficult to get it right when drafting pass rushers than in other positions?

by Branston on Nov 14, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Mallet

I really like. I wish I could say Locker but he is just….horrible

John Hancock

by mrcoffee1969 on Nov 14, 2010 7:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Really

Horrible
If you look at Mallet and see him as great and Locker horrible, then you need to watch more tape and look at the tools around both.

by stufr on Nov 14, 2010 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm no expert: but those who claim to be are on the whole saying good things about Locker

I would tend to go with them rather than say some one is good or bad with nothing to back it up.

It just seems interesting that those same experts are saying Luck (should he declare) is a sure fire number 1 qb: citing his poise, accuracy and decision making. And at the same time they are claiming Locker’s value is falling: citing shortcomings in exactly these areas.

We might surmise that Locker is no more “horrible”, or any less exciting a prospect, than he was last season and we may all yet be surprised by what lies in his future. But right now, as has been quoted elsewhere, he is purportedly a work-in-progress. And Mallett may not, in fact, be any better, just a more polished player right now.

by Branston on Nov 14, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

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