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Return of the Linebacker

This season is about rebuilding, right? Or building or young talent or whatever you want to call it, but where is the young talent we're rooting for? The 2010 class isn't stepping up and the best of the best from previous classes is mostly playing for other teams.

Some good young players survive. Let's talk about them. Players with futures in Seattle, let's talk about them.

1-10-ARI 23 (13:18) 34-T.Hightower right tackle to ARZ 34 for 11 yards (59-A.Curry).

Lawyer Milloy was out of the box. Seattle was showing a cover 2 shell. That opened that one play, the play in which the team motions the tight end to the Seahawks Leo side and then run right at it, and as you might guess, it worked fabulously well.

Mebane forced a double team and held ground, but apart from that, the line was all-problem and no solution. Chris Clemons was sealed off quickly and decisively. That allowed the fullback to hit David Hawthorne with a head of steam and create a soft angle to the outside. Lofa Tatupu probably should have been the next man to stop Tim Hightower, but he didn't. No linemen in the second level hijinks this time. Deuce Lutui -- still one of the best guards in football -- couldn't peel off Mebane quick enough to reach Tatupu but Tatupu moved inside and was, along with with Heater, blocked out by the fullback. It was an indirect block. Block by presence. A pick.

Curry streaked from across the field and caught Hightower after 11. Unlike Curry's sack, this was a good play. Outcome is a terrible, terrible determinant of quality of individual performance. Curry should not have been the Seahawk to make this tackle, and globally the outcome indicates a failure by the Seahawks defense, but that Curry was the one to finally stem the bleeding speaks to his range and improving awareness.

1-10-ARI 34 (12:31) 34-T.Hightower right tackle to ARZ 37 for 3 yards (51-L.Tatupu, 91-C.Clemons).

Milloy returned to the box and the next run was stuffed. As Earl Thomas develops, Seattle's strong safety of the future will be able to play more and more in the box.

2-7-ARI 37 (11:48) 3-D.Anderson pass deep left to 15-S.Breaston to SEA 42 for 21 yards (29-E.Thomas).

Seahawks drop into what looks like a cover 2. The front four doesn't generate any pressure. Strike that, Mebane does an okay job of pushing the double back towards Anderson and Clemons -- after bowing way wide as if chasing the tight end -- nears Anderson, but it's late and Breaston settles in front of Thomas for an easy 21.

There shouldn't be such a thing as an easy 21, and though safety play is difficult to judge, I think Thomas was late breaking on Breaston and allowed too much space for the reception.

1-10-SEA 42 (11:03) 3-D.Anderson pass deep middle to 15-S.Breaston to SEA 6 for 36 yards (23-M.Trufant).

Then Breaston angled away from Trufant for another easy reception. No pressure again, and that didn't help, but Tru stuck outside for too long and Breaston was wide open. Tru lucked into a shoulder tackle that dropped Breaston because otherwise Breaston is clear to the end zone.

Thomas was wide left, perhaps providing deep double cover on Larry Fitzgerald.

1-6-SEA 6 (10:20) 34-T.Hightower left end to SEA 4 for 2 yards (57-D.Hawthorne).

Noteworthy only because again Milloy's presence near the line draws the lead blockers and allows Seattle to rally to the ball carrier and make the tackle. Before Hawthorne ended it, both Curry and Thomas missed tackles. Which maybe means that one more blocker, one less unblocked defender, and this play is sprung for the score.

2-4-SEA 4 (9:38) (Shotgun) 3-D.Anderson pass short right to 11-L.Fitzgerald to SEA 5 for -1 yards (54-W.Herring).

Ok, enough doom and gloom. This is the play of the year for Will Herring.

Cardinals are four wide: Deuce and Breaston on the left; Andre Roberts (slot) and Fitz on the right. Roberts runs an out and up. The goal is to clear out Herring and create space for Fitzgerald. Fitz slides inside to receive the quick curl but Herring is all over him. He hits Fitz just after the reception and wraps for a loss of two. The tackle isn't perfect though it's secure. The tackle works because the timing is perfect. Fitz can hardly finish pulling the ball in before Herring is all over him.

Kentwan Balmer provides a little pressure off right end and that might disrupt Arizona's timing just a hair.

3-5-SEA 5 (8:54) 34-T.Hightower up the middle to SEA 5 for no gain (59-A.Curry).

Cardinals run a draw. Fans boo because it doesn't work, but Seattle fans know that draws inside the red zone have been poison for the Seahawks aggressive defense.

Seattle lines with Curry and Mebane at tackle. The Cards show pass block and that draws in both ends. Curry actually loses his gap for a second pursuing inside and breaking the double team on Mebane, but when he spots Hightower rushing behind right guard, he separates from center Lyle Sendlein and right guard Deuce Lutui and squares and drops the rusher for no gain.

Boo, boo, boo, but don't blame the play call. Sometimes good players make good plays.

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I think last week had one good Curry highlight.

So for this week there’s two “legitimately” good Curry highlights. This is a trend I would like to see continue.

by skwid206 on Nov 17, 2010 4:36 PM PST reply actions  

By the end of the year

We should be seeing 8 good highlights a game!

Portland transplant to Boston.

by cmcdougall on Nov 17, 2010 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Unless this is exponential doubling

not addition. If so, look out records!

Portland transplant to Boston.

by cmcdougall on Nov 17, 2010 8:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Derrick Thomas : Dave Krieg :: Aaron Curry : Matt Cassel

This wooden soul of mine, it cannot ever climb from places it has fallen: In between where light can shine. It never falls in line, it barely has a spine, like branches severed from the vine. Like it was faulty by design.

by Cheddar28 on Nov 17, 2010 11:59 PM PST up reply actions  

"The 2010 class isn't stepping up"

Have to disagree there. ET has been as good as anyone can expect from a rookie, as has Okung when he’s played. That’s been little enough but it seems the staff is being extra-cautious with him, which bodes well both down the stretch and for years to come.

Tate has made some majorly bone-headed mistakes, but he’s also been as explosive as any player on the team. He looks like a gamebreaker to me, just a little raw.

Thurmond has looked decent to good, and by rights he shouldn’t even be playing right now. Freak recovery on that knee, cant wait to see him going forward. I do worry that rushing him onto the field this season could have long-term effects on his athleticism, but we dont have the information to make that kind of call.

Chancellor has played sparingly, but he’s been an impact player on an outstanding special teams unit.

No one else has made an impression, but these guys are six months into their professional careers. ANY contribution a team gets from its rookies should be seen as a positive, and we’ve gotten more than most.

by miracle_max on Nov 17, 2010 5:13 PM PST reply actions  

So, according to your own accounting

Thomas has played well, and Okung, Thurmond, Chancellor and Tate have played sparingly.

What are you disagreeing with?

by John Morgan on Nov 17, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

You can frame it however you want.

The class of 2010 has not contributed much this season. It’s not a judgment of their potential.

by John Morgan on Nov 17, 2010 6:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I can understand both of your sides.

You framed your comment within what – to me – seems to be a general disappointment with not having much to see in the 2010 class THIS SEASON. It had me a little confused too.

And I also disagree that we haven’t seen much. We’ve seen Okung play well, and Thomas has obviously played well (or at least excitingly, from a visual standpoint) throughout. Tate has shown flashes and Thurmond seems to be WAY ahead of schedule, especially for a fourth round pick. Not sure what we’re expecting out of fifth rounders and below, especially considering your frequent disdain for said picks (from what I remember).

I’d say, if anything, we’ve seen more immediate impacts out of this draft class than any of the last five years. You’re right, we don’t exactly have a Ware or Desean Jackson in the bunch (though Thomas comes close), but I’d say this isn’t really saying much since that is very rare.

It’s not a big deal, but I felt the need to echo what max was saying.

by djafrot on Nov 17, 2010 7:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Seattle has 13 starts from their rookies and two are starts by Okung in which he didn't finish the first half.

That’s fewer starts by drafted players than any team that selected in the top ten other than Washington and Buffalo, and Washington had one pick in the first four rounds.

by John Morgan on Nov 17, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I can see that, but my point is that we're seeing more out of the them than we have out of past classes.

at least, in the short run. That’s how badly our past drafts have done in producing immediate results… if that’s what we’re looking for. The list of players from the last four or so years of drafts that have done anything in their first half season is pretty small… since we have three contributors and one starter from our first four picks, I’d say that’s pretty decent.

Sorry, really not trying to sound like a PC&S apologist, but to argue we haven’t seen much out of this class seems like a stretch. A very mild stretch, to be fair! If only the offensive line would quit rolling up on Okung…

by djafrot on Nov 18, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree

We can’t determine how well our 2010 class has been doing by individual stats. Considering our team started with expectancy of being at the bottom of the barrel. Team records shows we have the very best chance of winning the division! Our resurgence at defense with mostly 1st year players or stop gap players or role changed players is remarkable.

We have yet to see a team working at even anything at full strength on the offensive side. I was expecting a team showing like today from week 5. But injuries, different personal, new offensive, and yadhi yadha has mostly prevented that. I can’t wait to see how this teams gells once we have okung. 4.4 ypa is going to go a long way if that’s what we are averaging per rush.

go hawks.

by genax on Nov 17, 2010 5:31 PM PST reply actions  

That Herring play made the bar go nuts

We could feel the momentum turning a bit after the two receptions by Breaston, but an incredible individual effort by Herring to sniff that play out… and I don’t know what that man’s 40 time is, but he was across the line in a fucking flash to shut Fitz down.

I love that our D, inconsistent as it has been at times, is tough enough to have a chance to punch back when things start rolling against them.

by Kingdomer on Nov 17, 2010 5:55 PM PST reply actions  

It should be noted

That on the first and goal play from the 6 in which you stated Curry missed a tackle that he would have made the tackle had he not been badly blocked in the back.

by bigtrain21 on Nov 17, 2010 8:35 PM PST reply actions  

Wow that is egregious

I didn’t notice at the time. But wow.

by IslandHawk on Nov 17, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

That's still a missed tackle

and I actually don’t think he would have stopped Hightower if they were the only two people on the field.

But, more animated gifs in comments sections please!

by jhmg16 on Nov 17, 2010 8:39 PM PST reply actions  

Is it a poor performance by Curry?

I think he could have made the tackle easily if he didn’t have a 300lb guard pushing him in a direction orthagonal to his intended direction.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Nov 17, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Look at Curry's plant, and Hightower's plant

the block in the back isn’t even a factor at that point; he has no shot

by jhmg16 on Nov 17, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe a little faster gif

would help but you can see that Curry’s left arm almost got around him and you can clearly see how much the block in the back affected the play.

by bigtrain21 on Nov 17, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean it's such a stupid thing to argue about in general, but

still, it would have been an arm tackle that hightower runs right through

not sure how you guys can see it any differently

by jhmg16 on Nov 17, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't see your side either

but that’s cool. I am not sure if you have played football before but it only takes a very small block in the back to really affect a tackle. I don’t mean that in a condescending way either.

by bigtrain21 on Nov 17, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think we are arguing either.

I am not mad at your point of view or anything I just disagree with it. Here is a little longer .gif. I don’t expect it to change your point of view or anything but it does help put it into perspective. I think Curry had him locked up.

by bigtrain21 on Nov 17, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I am getting a concussion just watching the end of the clip

as Hightower lowers his chin/helmet at a would-be Seahawk tackler – Heater?

by IslandHawk on Nov 17, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Curry would not have stopped him...

As you can see from the .gif Curry was following Thomas. The block in the back started as a hold which slowed him down, making it be possible to turn and almost make a tackle. If that didnt happen Curry would have ran right past Hightower like Thomas.

by KidDanger on Nov 18, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I can post another .gif

The blocker didn’t help him at all actually. He was already in position to make a play and wasn’t moving full speed or anything so he wouldn’t have over pursued like Thomas. Thomas was moving full speed whereas Curry was shuffling and trying to keep the runner in front of him. I believe he was in perfect position to make a tackle and as you can see even with the block in the back he still got his left arm to the Hightower’s right side and I believe he would have tackled him without being shoved from behind. He is a full field view of the play where you can see Thomas is moving at a completely different speed than Curry.

The seahawks as a team actually had this play covered pretty well.

by bigtrain21 on Nov 18, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I figured I better participate in the wave before I'm left out in the cold of believing AC is making solid gains.

Don’t want to be thought of as some kind of idiot that doesn’t know what he sees with his own two eye ball receptors

by Joshua Kasparek on Nov 17, 2010 9:48 PM PST up reply actions  

My sarcasm detector is broken...

This wooden soul of mine, it cannot ever climb from places it has fallen: In between where light can shine. It never falls in line, it barely has a spine, like branches severed from the vine. Like it was faulty by design.

by Cheddar28 on Nov 18, 2010 12:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Ah, the best logic of all.

None. Why make a point when you can appeal to common sense?

by djafrot on Nov 18, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Curry

And no offside penalties on him again, right?

John, if you have a minute, what do you make of all the snaps Curry got at nose? I don’t recall seeing that previously. Just trying something new or was it something about the Cards the Hawks were trying to exploit?

by jeager on Nov 17, 2010 10:46 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

I liked it

I thought that with this new scheme we have been running this season with the Leo Curry would have lined up at nose or tackle more often. He seems like a dangerous weapon there and would be drawing double teams freeing up the Leo to attack the quarterback. I do have to say that our defensive schemes change weekly and would be surprised if we see it again this week.

by KidDanger on Nov 18, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

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