Giants at Seahawks Game Thread 2
by John Morgan on Nov 7, 2010 2:37 PM PST
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PrintThe Seahawks are being ripped apart by a Super Bowl contender.
I am shocked and angered in equal parts.
Charlie Whitehurst has looked pretty damn rough, though his numbers ignore that the first interception was a touchdown bobbled into an interception. The pass itself was a strike into a tight window. But bad bounces happen, and he hasn't acquitted himself on the rest of his snaps.
Whitehurst isn't the story. We wanted him to be. We wanted him to show up and blow up or at least suck so completely the argument could end, but neither has happened. Whitehurst isn't the story because Whitehurst owns very little responsibility for the Giants scoring at will.
The Seahawks defense is collapsing. Strike that. The defense is in ruins, toxic Chernobyl ruins, uninhabitable by man. It was dependent on its run defense, and you just can't patch three starters along the defensive line in one week. The run defense has survived, if at a reduced capacity, but Seattle's pass rush has completely vanished. The coverage may be worse. Marcus Trufant is getting the most face time, and he's playing poorly, but I think that's a function of Tru covering the Giants number one receiver and the lack of rush allowing deep patterns to develop. Pretty much the entire secondary is struggling.
The Seahawks are being blown out because the Seahawks are one of the worst teams in football. I did not expect Seattle to be a significantly better team than it was in 2009, but the lack of progress from 2008 to 2009 to 2010 is pretty concerning. A team as bad as Seattle should be unstable, so to speak. It should be bad enough that improvement is relatively easy, because bad players should be easy enough to replace. I can swallow the bad loss, but this has been a bad loss in which there's little to root for, and that hurts.
On a side note, field turf increases the incidence of ACL injuries and high ankle sprains. Earl Thomas just limped off the field. As a Seahawks fan, I don't think of Paul Allen as my personal piggy bank, but at what point does retaining a disadvantageous playing surface become bad business?
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Then we would owe soccer a big one
Did you realize that the World Series is going on? Yeah, me neither. Zzzzzzzz...
by Wayward Llama on Nov 7, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Hasselbeck > Whitehurst
I know that contradicts the preferred narrative here, but proof is in the pudding.
No, it's not.
If Hasselbeck was playing, we’d TOTALLY BE AHEAD RIGHT NOW!!!!
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
Again, I realize what the groupthink on Fieldgulls has been.
If Hasselbeck had just played a half like this one, it would be the same old crap about weak arms, Capn Checkdown…but this game would not be the kind of home-field humiliation that this one is. Take that to the bank.
You can call it groupthink if you want.
If you think that everyone saying “the sky is blue” is groupthink.
The sky is blue
Whitehurst has been in the league for several years and never played a single meaningful snap…and now we see why. The sky really is blue, Pete Carroll was right, Matt is better.
Its hard to play a snap over Philip Rivers.....
by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 7, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
Are you one of those people who say Locker wont succeed because he's not a "winner"
Because I want to murder those people’s dogs.
Sweet.
Because Matt has totally led us to victory this year, last year and the year before.
I suppose your vision is that he will continue leading us to victory into next year and onward as well?
And I seriously resent your “group think” attitude.
I could care less what anyone else thinks. Hasselbeck is the past. Whitehurst is the present TODAY, and hopefully the rest of this year, so we can see if he possibly is the quarterback of the future.
Also, for reference, Hasselbeck won his first game as a Seahawk 9-6 (while throwing 2 picks)
Obviously it was all his leadership that pulled that off.
He lost his second game to Philly— 3-27.
He was 9-24 for 62 yards and was sacked 7 times.
His next game he lost to Oakland 38-14.
He was 14-28 and had 2 picks.
So his first 3 games he was 1-2, with around a 45% completion percentage, 0 TD’s and 3 picks.
But yeah, you are absolutely correct. One half is MORE than enough time to fully evaluate Charlie.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
How many halves like this will it take?
Just curious so we can know for sure when the excuses will peter out. 6? 8?
Jesus.
C’mon. Where has Matt taken us IN THE PAST THREE YEARS??? Yes, I get it. He was our best franchise QB ever. And I look forward to seeing number 8 in the Ring of Honor. Preferably next year as he’s retired.
But how many halves? Can I get equal to what Matt got in 2001 (those three games) before he was benched again for Trent Dilfer?
Can I get 6 halves please?
And what excuses are you talking about?
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know
But do you really think we have seen enough of Whitehurst to say that with confidence? I mean, come on.
-First NFL start
-Patchwork offensive line
-No running game
-Average receivers
-Facing one of the best pass rushes
-Going up against a Super Bowl contender
-Dropped TD turns into INT
Can we give the man a fucking break?
by Pessimistic Optimist on Nov 7, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, it has to be groupthink.
Tell us what would be different with Hass in there?
That INT to BMW wouldn't of been a pick.
Because it would’ve hit the ground 7 yards in front of him.
by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 7, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
What proof?
What pudding?
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by Matt Erickson on Nov 7, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
whitehurst is playing against possibly the best front four in the nfl.
Don’t think that is a fair assessment
Some awesome excuses here!
Really terrific!
Like I said, people here just can’t quit CB Jesus! Everything is Matt’s fault! Everything! If we just had a stronger arm back there…we could lose 60-0!
all most of us are saying is
if you jump to that conclusion after one half of football, you’re probably jumping the gun. Hass stepped into a decent offense when he first started for the Hawks, and even still had some poo poo games.
If you already knew that people here support Whitehurt over Hasselbeck, I fail to see what your original comment hoped to illicit.
Did you think that everyone would agree with your assessment? Clearly not.
by JLC on Nov 7, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
I'm getting a little tired
Of the same old same old here…ripping the best QB in the history of the franchise every single fucking week. Well here we see what the post-Hasselbeck era is going to look like. Someone needs to stand up for Baldy, I don’t see anyone else doing it.
Theres plenty of people that stand up for Matt.
With better arguments.
by Scruffy Lefty on Nov 7, 2010 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
Do you think it is plausible that Hasslebeck is not playing at his best right now, considering his age?
And that age will eventually catch up to Hasselbeck, regardless? Do you also accept that Hasselbeck cannot be our quarterback forever, and our ripping of him is not based on what he has done in the past, but what he is currently failing to offer our team?
Surely you are capable of seeing our perspective, right?
by JLC on Nov 7, 2010 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
I sure am capable of seeing your perspective
And I know Matt is out the door. But hopefully all the drool that has been expended over CW can be mopped off the floor now. This guy is not the answer.
People were drooling over not-Hasselbeck.
by Nate Dogg on Nov 7, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
THIS.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Perhaps we should introduce you to the concept of "Memetic Badass"
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MemeticBadass
Nobody here believes Whitehurst is actually the next coming. It’s just a silly, fun meme, and we’ve been interested to see him in actual game action.
Oh, and Hasselbeck really sucks.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Perhaps he is not, but it makes more sense to find out definitively since we know Hasselbeck is not the answer going forward.
And you should also be able to understand that we want Whitehurst to succeed, given what we sacrificed to get him and the fact that Hasselbeck is out the door. If CW is not our quarterback of the future, we are closed to borderline screwed.
by JLC on Nov 7, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
The drool was over seeing another one of our quarterbacks get an opportunity to see how badly we needed another quarterback.
We know Hasselbeck is done. We don’t know how bad Whitehurst is. There’s always a chance he isn’t terrible and now we have a chance to see whether that’s true. He may or may not be terrible but he’s probably better than Hasselbeck, though not particularly great to have as a starter in all likelihood, though it’s early still.
I'm not saying that its Matt fault.
I just don’t think you can be so quick to say that Charlie is worse than Matt. This is arguably the best team we’ve played all season.
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by jhmg16 on Nov 7, 2010 2:43 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Hansen hurt
Every time you masturbate... God kills a kitten? Fuck kittens.
by Matt Erickson on Nov 7, 2010 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
Well poo on you and your arrogant little "o"
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by Matt Erickson on Nov 7, 2010 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
And of course, he used to be a Mariner.
We traded him and his borderline HoF career…. for a guy named Felix Fermin.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Can Locklear play LEO?
He’s pretty good at wrapping guys up and taking them down.
by hazbro24 on Nov 7, 2010 2:45 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
That's good.
You should write for Leno!
by Kingdomer on Nov 7, 2010 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Funny, I was just talking about the ridiculous rate of injury here in Seattle.
Is that field turf quote from a source? If so, bye bye turf.
I can't imagine why an outdoor stadium in an area that gets plenty of rainfall
Would use artificial turf.
FG's second favorite football-illiterate semi-troll.
Grass is very expensive to maintain
And it would get completely trashed here because of the weather. What if we had a rainy game?
by tootthekazoo on Nov 7, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
THIS.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
Fine with me.
Another advantage for the Seahawks. Muddy, ugly stuff.
Might want to get strong healthy lines to win in that weather/field conditions.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, whoops.
I really can’t get used to that writing practice of linking within the text.
Watching this game is like living a life of unrelenting and continuous TPS reports needing to be filed.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, cause having "Matthew" back
will heal our broken defense.
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by Wayward Llama on Nov 7, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
You mean Mebane, Okung, Polumbus....
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus
Except for the implication that a healthy Matt would make a difference...
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not picking up what you're putting down...
this makes me sad.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
I have to challenge that "one of the worst teams in football" statement.
I guess it depends on where you define “worst”, but I’d say that this Seahawks team (without the redonkulous injuries) is probably middling at worst.
Today we’re seeing a terrible combination of a rookie QB who’s probably not very good and a toothless defensive line against one of the better passing attacks in the league.
Er, better RUSHING attacks in the league.
Though, that said, it also gives Eli time, and he’s a pretty good QB.
We aren't competitive in our defeats.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
This team would be last place in any AFC division, and the NFC east
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It's the same blind optimism that they're using to suggest that the season isn't over.
We still have a shot! This team is still good! We can win a playoff game! Shit will turn into chocolate if we wish hard enough!
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Our record is going to be 4-4.
Right there we beat 4 out of 32 teams. And those are only the teams we have played.
We’re missing two of perhaps this teams most important pieces – Okung and Mebane. With them in the fold the situation is very different.
“middling at best” might be a stretch, but I certainly think we’re better than a good ten teams (with those two guys playing).
Which would put us in the 31% percentile.
That’s not middling.
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I'm responding to the entirety of your blogpost above.
At which point do you “support” it? Simply saying something is bad does not make it bad.
Maybe I’m not sure what you mean by support.
Well since then the Seahawks have been outscored 71-3.
by MFAN on Nov 7, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Right... but the team just magically got worse since then?
The only thing that has changed substantially is the influence of injuries. And since John is claiming that the injuries aren’t the reason the team is bad, or at least he appears to say so, something else has to be the reason.
It was pretty much healthy against the Raiders.
It barely outdueled Max Hall. It needed to special teams touchdowns to beat the Chargers.
This team being bad isn’t new.
Honestly, it's hard to tell.
I’m re-reading your initial post, and I’m not sure what it’s trying to say. It says “the Seattle Seahawks are one of the worst teams in football” but right after both a long description of how injuries have hurt AND a dismay that the team hasn’t improved.
I guess I’m a little miffed by how you say my arguments are “unsupported” where yours don’t have to be. That’s not fair.
So everyone's stance is that injuries have NOT contributed to the team playing like absolute ass the last two weeks?
Just to be clear.
You can't expect any team's starting roster to stay totally intact over the course of the season.
Good teams have depth. We do not have depth.
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Are you talking about the score?
Because our record, which is the score of teh season, is 4-4. That most decidedly does not say “worst teams in football” to me.
How about those posts where I linked to DVOA and ER
over multiple weeks, and put them into context, and mentioned that Seattle could fall to 4-4 very quickly?
All 4 losses have been complete blowouts, one of which was at home
3 of 4 wins have been at home, 2 against bad teams
Because you're talking about the team not improving...
…as if it can control injuries.
Did they really not have anyone else to kick a PAT?
The punter, maybe?
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by Wayward Llama on Nov 7, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, that whole situation got a lot less awesome.
Still though, pretty cool that he’d be willing to do that.
I am really concerned we'll finish around 6-10, miss the playoffs
And have no talent to trade up to get a QB in the top 5.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
How do we finish 6-10 and miss a pick in the top 5?
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus
Get the 6th pick
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
"It's not how we start, it's how we respond."
Yeah, because giving up 35 unanswered points to start is so insignificant.
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Love that they switched their center because of the crowd.
That’s impressive.
"Because the crowd is out of it....."
Twitter people are saying the crowd has mostly left the stadium
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First FS on the Giants
Too little too late, unfortunately.
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Wow.
Someone finally successfully covers Nicks
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Is that the 100th false start by the opps in Qwest Field history?
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Fake punt please.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Whoopsie
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
SPENCERRRRR!
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Curry is making me lose all hope.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
I really should find something else to make my "single most anticipated thing of my week"
by jhmg16 on Nov 7, 2010 3:01 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I think it's safe to say
Carrol has lost more than his cool.
He has lost his team.
They are playing embarrassing football in front of a bunch of faithful that have more than likely dedicated their week to this game.
Think we will be expecting a apology?
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This comment is so breathtakingly stupid
How have you made that conclusion?
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
I'm being emotional
I’m a little like john in that regard….get it?
Read between the lines and use your powers of inference dip shit
Have to start wondering if all these penalties are a sign of PC not instilling discipline in this team.
Because we all know that the cool teacher in school was the one that let us get away with stuff.
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I was the cool teacher, and didn't let kids get away with shit.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
It's not safe to say
Ridiculous injuries, QB making his first start and playing probably the best team in the NFC. Add not the best luck and this is what you get.
SeahawkAddicts
>
Thatta way.
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by Wayward Llama on Nov 7, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
It's sad to see people jump all over each other.
Come on people we are watching Jesus. Let’s have some fun.
"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."
by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
Holding on the playside
Gawd I gotta watch this game with Brits and people who know shit about football… I wanna kill myself.
Why do we insist on even attempting to rush Will Herring?
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Well, they're kept out the end zone this time.
Baby steps.
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Woohoo
They only got 3
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
No touchdown allowed this time.
Progress!
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Somehow, someway
This is Tim Ruskell’s fault.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
It is Ruskell's fault...
If he had drafted some talent, there would be no reason to get rid of all his guys to try and replace them with actual talent.
I don't get the rotoscoping in those Charles Schwab commercials.
What’s the point? It just looks creepy.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
i read somewhere
that it makes you listen more carefully to what they’re saying than if it was un-rotoscoped actors. I’ve been trying since then to figure out if I agree.
I have a different theory...
Since they aren’t using the actors’ images, they only have to pay them for their voices.
So when I see those, I think “cheap bastards”. I could be wrong, but don’t care.
Strahan's teeth are looking like Trufant's coverage today.
by hazbro24 on Nov 7, 2010 3:09 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd. Awesomeness.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions
Who the hell is Mike Axisa?
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by Wayward Llama on Nov 7, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
Mariners had Felix...we have...
Uhhh Mare or Ryan?!
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Yes.
Ichiro at WR.
"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."
by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
But he'd never dive so it's unlikely.
by Mariner John on Nov 7, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Plus he would hurt the team with all those selfish yards after the catch.
"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."
by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The suicide rate would go up like 500%.
"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."
by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
In December....
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by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
I was implying that the only way we would play that many would be if we made the playoffs.
And went deep into them.
Ooooooooh, carry on then.
"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."
by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
The only way possible would be...
to have to games cancelled and then get swept in the first series.
Better than nothing unless they do it often.
I think the worst part about this
is that the team isn’t actually this bad (I guess we really didn’t know that though) but it just feels like they’re playing their worst than their best.
of course: this is an unsupported statement.
oh. No doubt
but they do in fact have the potential to play better than they are. And that’s disappointing to me.
It doesn't help when you're down to 3rd and 2nd stringers
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus
It's a banged up team
With a first game QB playing a very good team.
The team fell apart once FOX put up the damn Mora graphic.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
by SSreporters on Nov 7, 2010 3:11 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Whitehurst should sling it with reckless abandon
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Can they give Thurmond a chance?
I’m not interested in seeing Trufant much more today.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
No. I want more Charliehorse.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Oh I thought you meant Zac
Well Michael isn’t active.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Shutting off the FOX audio, and cranking up some of my own music.
Preferably something depressing. Like Joy Division.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
I thought that was a fumble.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
talk about the game
Or shut the fuck up. This self-promoting call-in from the studio to yuck it up with the broadcast team horseshit is absolutely killing me.
by jhmg16 on Nov 7, 2010 3:16 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I've heard better converstation with 2 badgers killing each other.
"SCANNING DEFENSES... EXPLOITING!"
by PastaMaker on Nov 7, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Two badgers, killing each other... for a rebound.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That guy in the back is pretty freakin awesome.
"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."
by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
Satan
"SCANNING DEFENSES... EXPLOITING!"
by PastaMaker on Nov 7, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Their market research probably.
So blame yourselves!
Qwest isn't as big as a home field advantage monster as it used to be
But it has practically nothing to do with Qwest itself.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
You can't blame the crowd here.
That have to have at least a little light at the end of the tunnel to cheer for.
"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."
by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Aw fuck, that light was a train.
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by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
Seattle is getting off to terrible starts at home
Which is something they didn’t used to do.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
When did this thread turn into a "Pile on top of John" thread?
You’re all hurting his writing hands.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Imagine how broke everyone would be if every kiss really began with Kay.
by DetectiveM on Nov 7, 2010 3:22 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Wait... what was she going to pretty much have to do?
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
I'm joking...
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
A Manning injury right there would have been beautiful karma.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
If there is a lord
this is proof that he is wicked and cruel.
Joe Buck's stupid douchiness is really rubbing off on Troy.
Although he had a good bit to begin with.
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by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
Refs 1 - Seahawks 0
Over the center? What?
Portland transplant to Boston.
Awesome.
When we get blown out we’re doing a damn good job of getting their key players injured.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Yeah, ones on my fantasy team of course.
(not that anyone cares. I sure don’t)
Hahaa who made that BCS joke before?
They stole your shit.
so whos ready for the most epic comeback ever?!
7 picks for 7 quarterbacks in Draft 2011! EFF IT!
by Seatown_Sport_Head321 on Nov 7, 2010 3:27 PM PST via mobile reply actions
There's nothing worse than waiting all week for the Seahawks game and then seeing
them get blown out at home.
Next week is our season
STL @ SF
SEA @ ARI
I think that decides it all for me.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
So root for SF and of course SEA.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Will Bane and Okung be back?
I think we can win that shit.
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by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
Wait
Is it still early, or can I give up now?
Happy birthday to me.
Seattle has done this to me 3 out of 4 years now. :(
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
The last time they played on my birthday was that win against the Jets during Holmgren's last home game
as HC. That was a fun one. ;)
Better than when Erickson was our coach.
I’ll never forget that Jet game. Cost us a playoffs birth.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
Mine was the Rams game in 2005
I was incredibly hungover and it was a 10AM start, which I hated. The game was awesome though
"This will be a difficult thing to coach through"
Right Joe, a 41 point lead is really hard to figure out what to do with.
chancellor has one of those X-Factor motors
Fun to watch.
by jhmg16 on Nov 7, 2010 3:29 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Seahawks should have a 7-man rush the rest of the way.
If you’re gonna throw the ball when you’re up 40, it’s your own damn fault when your QB get KO’d.
I almost see Mora's logic in wanting more "dirtbags"
When they throw on you and they’re up five scores, that’s the time to start trying to twist some knees.
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Really
Still wont kick it to leon… Giants are just bitches
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
"Nothing went right for the Seahawks today"
Yeah, like all of the injuries that you HAVEN’T EVEN FUCKING ACKNOWLEDGED
Wooohoooo
Beastmode
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
Did Austin Collie die?
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Game must be officially over.
Even the refs have quit.
And then Aikman and Buck mention that Carroll and Schneider were busy making moves this week
But again no mention that they were doing that because of the injuries
Oh yeah
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
JESUS LIVES!!!!!
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
I think we've been through this one.
"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."
by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
You know, obviously they're not still in it
But, I like that the team is still playing like they are.
Now nothing but onside kicks an seahawks touchdowns for the next 13 minutes
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
We're the Kansas to the GIants' Colorado
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
With us there in spirit
Was every car still better than a ours
Just started watching the game, Charlie throws a TD
Thought you guys needed a break, you’re welcome, all.
Wooooo!
You jackass.
Why couldn’t you get here in the first quarter?
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by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
Just got released from the hospital, man, I'm trying!
I swear. I told my friend to hit Hwy 26 at three times the speed limit.
Wooooo!
by Anticitizen_One on Nov 7, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
Hope you're better
Because if you watched this game in full you’d check yourself back in.
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be careful with 3 times the speed limit, or you'll end up BACK in the hospital.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
Khalif Barnes just scored a touchdown for the Oakland Huskies/Raiders
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Tackle eligible.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Yeah. It's pretty cool. I think that's supposed to be his last acting gig too.
Milton Bradley is my hero.
Why. Did he die?
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
Charlie Whitehurst has just thrown a longer touchdown pass than Hasselbeck has in probably 10-11 starts
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And we got blown out by them!
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
I've given up trying to figure out "we beat them, they lost to the other guy" deals.
Especially in a year like this one.
I think the problem was that I needed to restart my router.
Because as soon as I did – long passing TD! That must’ve been it…sorry guys!
That was some bullshit pursuit by Curry
I dont like that at all.
I saw the same thing. He was loafing/jogging, stopped.
…as the guy with the ball gets another 5-7 yards. Big lack of effort, fire and pride.
This defense is Mebane.
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Is this comment missing a word, or is this a pun?
by JLC on Nov 7, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
This defense is mostly Mebane.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
I was pretty close to reccing just because Mebane.
Then you made him explain it.
"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."
by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
I've seen enough to say that
with healthy O line Hass gives us the best chance to win, and with the current paper mache version Jesus does. Hass just can’t get it down the field fast enough.
I'm really impressed with Whitehurst
He’s done remarkably well against the league’s 3rd ranked defense with a porous patchwork o-line. No sacks through 3 1/3 quarters is heroic.
Honestly, the line did a pretty damned good job today in the passing game.
Did Charlie get hit once? The only time I remember was when we did the flea-flicker play.
He also gets the ball out relatively quickly to his first read, on a pass with zip. These are good things in my eyes.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
He looked super nervous in the first quarter.
A faster start would be good to see next time.( Given a next time)
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by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
Hm, good point.
Though I might say he gets it out quickly to his first read because he’s not supposed to make any more reads due to a dumbed-down offense. It’s his ONLY read.
At least, it seems that way at first glance. John will let us know.
I don't have a problem with that if it works...
And as “the other side” said, I agree, he was super nervous.
First NFL start, wouldn’t you be?? I like what I saw out of him.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
What a waste of a record...
Still. Yay for Qwest and Seattle fans! They deserve better
Wooooo!
by Anticitizen_One on Nov 7, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
Theres a lot of talent to be had in the draft.
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by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
Yes the logical jump since we were talking about QB's is to DE.
Well done.
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by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry, that was not very civil.
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by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
Really?
The only guy that looks like a true first-rounder is Luck. I wouldn’t touch Locker or Mallett before the second round, but that’s like, my opinion, dude.
Lebowski.
Actually it’s “but that’s just like, your opinion, man”
You don't know Lebowski?
Should look into it. Brilliant movie. I think NOT watching it at this point is just being intentionally obtuse.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
Hate to say it... I kind of don't want too see it because the guys I know who love it are douches.
I don’t mean “guys i don’t like” I mean stereotypical frat-boy douches. The movie could be fantastic, I love the Coen Bros.
It's pretty fucking amazing.
"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."
by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
Don't judge it by them...
It is such a great movie ALL types love it. I first saw it in college, it was a buddy’s favorite movie. He was a blue-collar, hard core republican straight arrow football coach who never dreamed of even smoking a joint.
And yet it’s a movie stoners absolutely love, about a stoner.
I’m telling you, don’t judge the movie by them. If anything, look at it as one of the few redeeming qualities about THEM, that they do like a movie that is worthy of being liked!
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
I think both of them go in the first.
But I agree they are both on the edge for me.
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by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
......No.
I’d rather we have McNabb + Drafted QB
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Are those ironic coughs, because thats quite the mouthful*.
*See what I did there!
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by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
Honestly, he does look pretty good.
I’m not sure how he fits with Bates’ offense. Hmm… rollouts, deep balls… OK, let’s do it.
Philly has an infinitely better offense than Seattle's.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
It's already been proven effective with McNabb for 10 years.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Right, and McNabb is a pretty good QB.
At least, I think so. He had to throw to a pretty paltry crew of WR’s for a long time.
He annoys the shit out of me.
I see flashes of just absolute brilliance from him. Then complete crap. And the latter seems to happen in the playoffs a lot.
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by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
Is there any other game going on that FOX can possibly show?
FG's second favorite football-illiterate semi-troll.
Commercials?
Oh wait, they got that covered.
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by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions
This is the only 1:05 game on FOX
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
It's FUCKING RIDICULOUS!!
A total of two games on today.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions
CBS
Has the Steam Pocket Pocket Mop in Seattle. Lame.
by somethingwitty on Nov 7, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
Every time they run:
- Run into wall of Seahawks
- Slow down for a second
- Keep running
- Go down for a 6 yard gain
The strategy is to wait until all NY's running backs are exhausted
It’s working.
Wooooo!
by Anticitizen_One on Nov 7, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not sure he'd be much of an upgrade over Hasselbeck.
by JLC on Nov 7, 2010 3:51 PM PST up reply actions
Aw come on, the old guy can still sling it.
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by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
Curry must have at least 6 tackles today.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
And a forced fumble
Back when the game was still tied
[X] is having a poor day tackling.
Except maybe Cam?
by somethingwitty on Nov 7, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
What the FUCK is with going for it on 4th down when you're in FG position?!??!
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The defense should just let the Giants score
Although they’ve done a nice job of that all day.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Granted the D has sucked.
But it doesn’t help when your O goes 3 and out for the first half.
They are running on every play and everyone knows it.
How the fuck are they still moving the chains?
It's called being tired after 2 straight weeks of offensive ineffectiveness.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
41:08 - 16:52
Guess which numbers belong to us.
The zero?
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by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Disagree.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
They ended up kneeling the clock out at our 7
I don’t think they were trying to be classless at all.
I don't think Coughlin is trying to embarrass anyone.
The Seahawks are bad. It’s not their opponent’s job to hide that.
I'm sad we didn't even get to see another Charlie 4th quarter drive.
We could have really used one, and he could have too.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
They're trying to run out the clock.
Don’t blame the Giants because the defense can’t stop them.
FG's second favorite football-illiterate semi-troll.
Stay classy NY
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.
Hey!
On the bright side, we get to see Dallas get fucking raped tonight.
High five!
"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."
by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions
Well I guess since I missed the whole game I just want to know, anything positive come out of this?
Did we avoid further injuries today? Anyone on either d or o lines play better than expected?
Wooooo!
We allowed 0 sacks.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
We had no sacks.
And the only injury was ET who came back and played.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Personally, I think injuries should be turned off in this league.
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by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Rec'd for an unexpected laugh out loud.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
If you don't turn off injuries in Madden franchise mode
all your best players get hurt. That’s kind of realistic in our case though.
Is it that they got better or that Charlie makes their job easier?
Wooooo!
by Anticitizen_One on Nov 7, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
I'd say a little of both.
But it sure doesn’t make sense that a bunch of semi-scrubs would suddenly pull it together. Let’s just say it’s Charlie for now.
I don't think the Giants have ever won at Qwest
We’ve never won at Arizona. Look up!
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
2005?
Pretty sure we went 6-0 in the division back then.
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Oops. Okay we have never won at the new stadium.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
I watched the rest of this fucking game in hopes of seeing Whitehurst go in again.
Then the fucking Giants ran it down our throats for 10 minutes!
That OTFP better be loaded
Because it’ll be a long time before we’ll be happy.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Magic and cougars.
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by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
Gravitational pull.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
stop making excuses, this team is terrible. the first 4 wins were luck and easy plays. i cant believe how bad tim ruskell killed this team.. pushing holmgren out… jim mora? no replacements for jones or hasselbeck…. and now that hes gone we have pete carrol and schiender, trading big to get whitehurst.. keeping the same shitty CBs, keeping matt hasselbeck, dropped passed… AHHH !! these huys suck… as a team and as players… we look like buffalo but worse.
gag!
no need to write so many blogs this week john morgan, simply put this is a very bad team, thats a heart beat away frrom imploding mid season… wait, they are right now….kinda like being sea sick!
Please use the subject line.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Woah dude don't hold it in.
Let it all out.
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by the other side on Nov 7, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions
Use the subject line
Along with proper grammar and spelling.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
PIE!
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
Reference caught!
Well played.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Our long nightmare is finally over.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
THANK GOD
It’s over. Now, to anticipate next week’s game.
2 touchdowns in 3 weeks
This offense needs to be fixed badly.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
They need a bye year.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Whitehurst equals Hasselbecks TD total from last week!
But with less sacks and fumbles, w00t!
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by Hancock.Brett on Nov 7, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
If you want a brief moment of distraction
The Raiders lead the Chiefs, 14-13, and Thomas Jones has 3x as many carries as Jamaal Charles. Kid you not.
190 - 26
Seattle football results over the past two weeks.
Maybe you should come out of retirement micacle max.
we’re only mostly dead.
by hazbro24 on Nov 7, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Does anyone else get the impression
That people on this site hold John Morgan personally responsible for any Seahawks inadequacy? It seems every loss lately has turned into this place a rage against JM.
What's wrong with the Welsh?!? They like to drink. I like to drink. I don't see the problem.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
Whaaa?
Over-react. I was merely playing on words.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
Except about the capitalization problem, I'm really having issues with that.
I capitalized Lions earlier for reason unknown.
Yeah, the lions are no longer a laughing stock, but they still haven't earned capitalization.
And yay, I couldn’t tell on the all caps. Funny now that I know!
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
Dylan Thomas was Welsh, and he loved to drink.
So I’m summing up their entire tiny country behind one famous inhabitant. I don’t see a problem with that.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
i blame him for all nfl games that don't go the way i would prefer.
And for any annoying commercials that show up along the way.
It was right in the bookflap.
100 McRibs you should eat before you die.
by hazbro24 on Nov 7, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I will say it again: The season is over.
This is a team that stops no one, goes nowhere, commits stupid penalties, and loses all of its talented players to injuries for long stretches of time. Today’s game was an instance of this team taking its medicine, facing a superior team and getting systematically dismantled in the process.
Even if the Seahawks somehow win the division on the back of three even worse rivals, there is zero chance that they can beat any other playoff-caliber team in the NFC. Anyone who suggests otherwise is optimistic to the point of blind religious faith.
FG's second favorite football-illiterate semi-troll.
Man... I can't even fathom the despair you must be in right now.
Wooooo!
by Anticitizen_One on Nov 7, 2010 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Hmm.. well even after this performance it's still not hard to disagree
We’ve suffered a pretty bad bout of injuries and luckily no one critical was lost for the season. It’s weird for me to believe that one football player can be such a game-changer, but man, Okung is looking like it… the offense doesn’t have room to breathe if Russell’s not there, shoving for some space.
Wooooo!
by Anticitizen_One on Nov 7, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions
Yes I very much agree, though Mebane is slightly more expendable
If only because with Red Bryant playing like he was, at that size, that like could probably… hopefully… hold a decent run offense if the Seahawks offense could stay on the field
Wooooo!
by Anticitizen_One on Nov 7, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
I'm more worried about the pass defense.
Mebane warrants multiple blockers, which really lets Clemons and Bryant go free.
Thought you said "expandable."
I would think Red would win the expandable debate…
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
I think the appropriate term is "fluffy"
if I can invoke Gabriel Igliesias’ expertise.
Wooooo!
by Anticitizen_One on Nov 7, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
I will easily take your word for it, since watching Locklear at RT is more sad every week
Wooooo!
by Anticitizen_One on Nov 7, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
everytime we run the ball and that flag comes out
you can just hear #75 being called before it happens.
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by Hancock.Brett on Nov 7, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Because the Seahawks, or because he's half human, half troll?
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
Cool, then we won't have to hear from you until next year!
Though your knack for prognostication would come in handy with lottery numbers.
Not for the Seahawks it's not.
But for my own personal pleasure, it sure could be.
If you can't handle someone venting their frustration at a team that lays eggs on a regular basis
Then I’m terribly sorry.
FG's second favorite football-illiterate semi-troll.
He was tempting talent last year too
but everyone would rather complain about what he did off the field than have our team take a flier on him to see if he still had it.
I don't care how good he is. I would seriously think about not rooting for this team if they signed that dog-killer
to a contract.
by Coach Owens on Nov 7, 2010 4:26 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It never fails to amuse me when I hear people whine about animal cruelty
especially Americans. Our way of life is built on animal cruelty.
by miracle_max on Nov 7, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Well, I do love me a good cheeseburger.
Seriously though, it is interesting to compare our culture to others around the world. Where we eat cows, Hindus do not. We don’t eat dogs, some places around the world do(such as Korea, China). Just some food for thought. Get it?
by Pessimistic Optimist on Nov 7, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Its not which animals we use, its the conditions they live in
And we’re not just talking about what we eat either. Scientific testing, domestic abuse, hunting for sport…ugh, I shouldn’t even get into this, I just get upset.
On hunting....
I personally believe everyone should have to kill an animal and eat it once, if they are going to eat meat at all.
It’ll give a greater appreciation for the meat than simply grabbing a fresh t-bone out of the isle at Safeway.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
I have no problem with a person who hunts to feed themselves
That is the natural way of things. Sport-hunting, on the other hand, is indefensible. IMO of course.
Agree.
You should eat it when you sport hunt too… but, I wasn’t really addressing that. I was just saying in general, that should be a rule.
And if you aren’t willing to hunt, you should have to at least go to a slaughterhouse and watch cows get their throats slit, see the inhumanity of it. THEN, if you’re cool with meat, great.
Personally, I’ve seen it happen and killed deer/pheasant and ate them, so I’m cool with it. But rare is a time when I eat a steak and don’t feel a gratitude for the fact that we eat animals.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
no joke, the man paid his time
and what he did was pretty fucked up but there is certainly worse things in the world. Like running over somebody with your car cause you blow through a stop light, kill someone, stab someone, fling someone off the hood of your car while driving.
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by Hancock.Brett on Nov 7, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
Not arguing with you, but by what standard are you judging that killing a man is worse than killing dozens of animals
Wooooo!
by Anticitizen_One on Nov 7, 2010 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not even sure how to respond to this
the standard of being a human being?
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by Hancock.Brett on Nov 7, 2010 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
But, humans are also animals.
Wooooo!
by Anticitizen_One on Nov 7, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
right
I’m not interested in having a conversation where the talking points on the table are “what’s more important one person or a dozen animals”.
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by Hancock.Brett on Nov 7, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
Cool because it sucks to try to understand someone who can't explain their point of view when asked
Wooooo!
by Anticitizen_One on Nov 7, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions
sorry if I was hostile
it’s been a long day and I’m having a hard time not getting frustrated.
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by Hancock.Brett on Nov 7, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
Dude. *takes long, pained breath* This is understandable.
Wooooo!
by Anticitizen_One on Nov 7, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
indeed
hoping for Sounders redemption tonight.
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by Hancock.Brett on Nov 7, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions
I'd be so much more hopeful if Sanna Nyassi wasn't starting on the wing tonight.
Come on Sigi, start El Flacco.
An anthropocentric standard, of course
Its how just about everyone views the world.
Yeah I guess it's just strange
that the argument “sure he murdered animals, but at least he had no homicidal tendencies towards humans” is considered compelling… so I must be missing something.
Wooooo!
by Anticitizen_One on Nov 7, 2010 4:47 PM PST up reply actions
I didn't say it was compelling
but what Vick did does not make her more reprehensible then the NFL players that have murdered another human being.
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by Hancock.Brett on Nov 7, 2010 4:49 PM PST up reply actions
Sigh.
People make mistakes. Someday maybe you’ll hear his life story and realize he grew up around stuff like that.
One of my neighbors played on the VT team with Vick. Said Vick was as country as it gets. Rough life, rough crowd.
People change.
It is what it is...
Well said.
I’m for forgiveness and giving another chance.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
It wasn't a mistake. A mistake happens once. Michael Vick funded a dog fighting ring for years.
Miracle_max might have a point, but to call what Vick did a mistake is disingenuous at best.
What do we call it then?
His life story is incredible. It is easy to judge from the couch. Vick has admitted he needed a reality check. Truth is, dog fighting goes on all over the U.S.
If we are going to draw lines, do you draw lines for dogs before girlfriends. Do you stop your love of Seahawks based on Locklear’s assault, or Tatupu’s DUI?
Where is the line. You cannot have it both ways.
It is what it is...
We call it a disgusting. He tortured animals and, regardless of upbringing, thats awful.
Which isn’t to say he shouldn’t be allowed to play football or that he isn’t good at footbal. But lets not excuse what he did, it was terrible.
Donte Stallworth killed a guy and got less prison time.
Criminals are aplenty in this league.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
Smart Football had an interesting take on that
here. Basically that federal and state crimes are different, right or wrong.
I think there's a huge inequity in the system
How is it Charlie Sheen can have as much coke as he wants while abusing his wives (or whatever he’s doing) but still continue his show and being in movies, yet Michael Vick is also involved in criminal activity and people want him banned from the NFL?
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
No kidding! So as weak as today is, it was predictable
and there is still a dim, flickering light at the end of a long and injury-prone tunnel
Wooooo!
by Anticitizen_One on Nov 7, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions
Woah, weird hearing about Peyton Manning handing off to "James".
What is this, 2003?
Why is Hugh Millen such a Hasselbeck apologist?
And why am I watching the gawd-awful Q13 postgame show?
Seattle sadly has done nothing to confirm it's Hasselbeck that is a huge part of the problem.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
For his first game as a starter
I think Whitehurst was clearly better than Matt. Dude didn’t take a single sack despite having a terrible o-line. He made some questionable throws, but I’m willing to forgive those kind of mistakes from someone who is essentially an old rookie.
He at least looked equal to Matt and cosidering that he's 7 years younger, has better arm strength and more upside I'd say let him play.
by MFAN on Nov 7, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
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Whitehurst’s problems today (missing open guys, locking on to receivers) were really no worse then Hasselbecks holding on to the ball forever and taking sacks.
From The Hawks Nest - Seahawks Podcast
http://www.http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/from-the-hawks-nest/id385227705
by Hancock.Brett on Nov 7, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
Whitehurst's biggest problem
Not having Golden Tate.
I can’t stand it when we throw deep passes or 50-50 balls to Butler.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
I think he settled down well too. Seemed HORRIBLE early, but better as things progressed.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions
He's a quarterback apologist and it's how he makes a living.
How much does Hugh Millan hate Brock Huard?
these are the questions that drive us
From The Hawks Nest - Seahawks Podcast
http://www.http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/from-the-hawks-nest/id385227705
by Hancock.Brett on Nov 7, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions
This Vick crap is stupid
We already have a cheaper alternative and his name is Michael Mofo Robinson.
Michael Robinson leads the Seahawks in completion percentage, yards-per-attempt, and QB rating.
I am pounding Upslope IPA to prepare myself for Morgan's post-mortem of the 2010 Seahawks
This is going to hurt
by jhmg16 on Nov 7, 2010 4:46 PM PST via mobile reply actions
must be that Ellensburg water
it can deform a person like nothing else!
From The Hawks Nest - Seahawks Podcast
http://www.http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/from-the-hawks-nest/id385227705
by Hancock.Brett on Nov 7, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
My sister's boyfriend
Brought that shit over to my house yesterday. I think I need to have him killed.
by somethingwitty on Nov 7, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
how can you kill what is dead inside?
From The Hawks Nest - Seahawks Podcast
http://www.http://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/from-the-hawks-nest/id385227705
by Hancock.Brett on Nov 7, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah sure, but get eight-loco'd first.
Wooooo!
by Anticitizen_One on Nov 7, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions
I got eight-loco'd yesterday
and sitting here looking at one of the empty cans on my desk is making me feel nauseous. Getting 8-Loko’d is like paying $5.50 to go to hell for two days.
So it's Taco Bell with a buzz?
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Nov 7, 2010 5:48 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
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