Postgame: New York Giants: Bazillion - Seahawks: One Long Reception

I hope to see this combination on the left soon and for a long time to come. As for the right side we need help!

I look forward to seeing him and Okung on the line at the same time. I have a question, why can’t the O-Line run block? It seemed as if every time Marshawn got the ball in his hands, the defense was in the backfield immediately. No pass rush also made Tru look bad, Eli had all day back there.

Agree fully to this statement and the rest of the Ruskell stuff. I was piss and vinegar when the transition to Schneider/Pete began but I’m on board now even after games like today. Their draft picks have done well when on the field and they’ve gotten some great performances from some not so great players. I’d really like to see an above average QB fall into their lap and another off season to tweak the lines with some better depth.

Charlie Whitehurst is who (some of us) thought he was!

Beware what you ask for. You guys can all go ape shit and stat me to death about how bad Matt is. He is our best option. Not debatable. Should never have been. We need a new QB. It’s not Charlie.

can be our new RT once Okung returns. I wish Locklear would work out but it appears he has run his course.

But man that was tough

Our OL is beat up and can’t run block and our D will break if you don’t give it a little help. It is injured so it breaks quicker than normal.
I wish Charlie had taken over and done something big, but he didn’t. Given the run game and the D, I didn’t expect him to.

First was a debacle, but hey, first NFL start, nerves are gonna be an issue. However, after that I did think he settled down and played relatively well, to be honest.

I just think the start was so putrid that people will look only at that.

For those that still think Hasselbeck is the best option THIS year, I just don’t know. I don’t know that first quarter excluded, he’s looked any better (and often worse) than Charlie. And Charlie is at least an exciting new version of suck, instead of the same old suck.

Also, as I pointed out in the game thread— Matt Hasselbeck’s first 3 starts were simply terrible, and he got benched for them, and nobody outside of Mike Holmgren, who traded for Matt, believed in him as a legitimate NFL starter. I really wish Charlie would get two more starts in a row, even though I doubt that will happen.

it was fun chatting with you guys this week. Thanks for the back and forth.

But it doesn’t change much of the discussion. One game, poorly played, but too few meaningful snaps. Played so hurried even the pass rush didn’t have much time to develop. It’s unreasonable to see this in a static way and think this is what Charlie’s play has to offer.

That the 2009 draft from Ruskell would not only be his last but it’d be his worst. Right now it’s shaping up to be that way.

But even in the face of such a crushing defeat; I still enjoyed myself and had a good time

…but I would like to see Charlie start another game or two. I don’t like his tendency to lock onto his primary read, but the velocity on the throws was refreshing. It was hard to tell from the broadcast how many receivers were out in routes vs. max protect, etc.

Am I the only one who misses Kevin Vickerson? I was very surprised when we parted ways with him. Sure seems like he could have helped today.

WR BEN OBOMANU

(On his touchdown reception) "It was one of those things where they press-bailed a lot and they were jumping some of my inside routes. I think we had thrown a little skinny post to Mike Williams early in the red zone and the ball got intercepted. Deon Butler ran the same route and it got jumped inside. So we had already game-planned a little bit and said, ‘OK, they’re going to jump that route, we’re going to double-move.’ I just happened to be in the game, my one play of the game too on offense, and they threw me the ball. Charlie just made a good play. It wasn’t that hard, it was just one of those things where they were so aggressive because they were up in the scoreboard they were going to jump routes and try to get picks and interceptions. It was just a double-move to the back corner of the end zone."

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2010/11/07/seahawks-postgame-comments-to-come-out-and-play-like-that-that%E2%80%99s-embarassing/

QB and offensive line should be the only focus on offense in 2011.

We had the ball just over 1 quarter, Giants had for almost 3 FULL QUARTERS. Our offense killed our defense, but I don’t really think it was much of Charlie’s fault, because the run game never let the passing game get going.

Regardless, I’d still keep him starting. I want to see him get more reps, because his good passes were very encouraging. Yeah, he sucked, and the line even gave him time, but he seemed to have zip on his throws. I’d like to see him get some more game time so we can see if his inaccuracy is just jitters, or a real problem that makes him no more than a back up.

EXCEPT, Matt would have sacked himself a dozen times and been out for the year.

We lost by 44-6. So we scored one more point and gave up three less! I think that counts as improvement.

Hasselbeck by the way? 11-21-105 with 1 int

So things are looking up!

Whitehurst was 12-23, 113 yards, 1 TD/2INT.

If Mike Williams caught a TD instead of donated an interception at the goal line, and Whitehurst’s line was
13-23 for 130 yards, 2TD/1INT how different perception would be of him and his performance??

This isn’t the apocalypse! We’re a team that went 9-23 in the past two seasons. Injuries are part of the game. The elite teams find a way to win even in spite of serious injuries. Hasselbeck is clearly on the back-nine of his career (this will hopefully serve as the understatement of the day). And Obviously We’re not an elite team. But that’s okay.. It was brutal watching the game yesterday although the blowout loss was expected. Whitehurst can’t be judged after one game. You have to evaluate Whitehurst as if he’s a rookie. Elite College and Pro defenders make better plays on the ball than what Whitehurst is likely accustomed to only having played in the pre-season and Collegeball many years ago. Yes, the Seahawks were absolutely and completely embarassed yesterday. The Giants are a good team, if not the best team in the NFC. Our patchwork defense simply wasn’t good enough to contend with a stellar offense. These games happen. We’ll probably have a few more games extremely similar to yesterday’s game this year like when we go to New Orleans in a couple of weeks. The only thing we can do is continue to root for the team and hope that they show signs of improvement by the end of next season. This season would be a complete write-off if we were in any other division, however being in the NFC West, we still, despite our horrendously bad play over the past two weeks, have a serious chance at winning this god-awful division. Whitehurst hopefully learned a few things yesterday which will hopefully serve us well next season when he will likely be the starter and then depending on his performance, we either further develop him into a solid starter like a poor Man’s Dave Krieg minus the fumbles (hopefully), or we start seriously grooming an elite QB prospect with one of our first 3 picks. However, true Seahawks fans should know that this is a scary thought considering how bad we are historically regarding drafting quarterbacks. My fiancee asked me yesterday why I put myself through this pain. It’s because this franchise is the perennial underdog (except for maybe the 2005-06 Season) and the team absolutely symbolizes the Pacific Northwest. Beautiful, ignored, disrespected and still awesome!. Forget the pundits and ignorant individuals who just dismiss the Seahawks with a “They’re not very good”. The media wants the Seahawks to be bad because it’s a small market which is extremely geographically inconvenient. The Seahawks are our team and will come back and compete on another day. I truly hope it’s next week and that we’re healthier and that the team brings the right mind set. We can still win this division. Admittedly, the team needs a lot of work, but, I’m willing to suffer by watching every week because this is a team that I love simply because they’re almost unbelievably less pretentious than all of those smug and arrogant fan bases that don’t appreciate their team when things go bad. Stay strong Seattle, and don’t lose any sleep over this one, otherwise you’re just a bad Tom Hanks movie.

Reading this thread made me realize just how frustrating it must been for the guys that wanted to see Charlie listen to the pro-play-Matt faction (including myself) try to apologize for/explain away/defend poor QB play.

I feel like this debate is going to continue because both QB’s are terrible… but in their own ways. I saw absolutely nothing out of Charlie yesterday that made me think any different of him. I still don’t want to see him play. It’s not fair that he had to play against that team with our offense and defense “supporting” him. Life isn’t fair. I don’t think either of our current QB’s will be in the league after next year.

In a perfect world… Matt’s concussion lingers and they start Charlie two more times while on the road and then are done with him so I don’t have to see him at Qwest again. Either that or he lights the world on fire and I’m on the Charlie bandwagon. Through my admittedly jaded view, he took all the air out Qwest. Even the the drunk morons 3 rows behind me that were clamoring for him all year turned on him by the end of the 2nd quarter. They seem to know what they are talking about when they are not throwing up…. so I’m going to use them as my proof that Charlie isn’t an NFL QB.

KICK THE FUCKING BALL AWAY AT HOME AND LET THE FANS DO WHAT THEY CAME TO DO!

That’s all.

Which will be an improvement from last couple of seasons. We have a tough schedule this year. I don’t care what the media says about it. We play Tampa, Falcons, KC, NO tell me those teams arent tough this year.

I know he miss fired some passes but I caught glimpses of a gunslinger. That boy can throw a nice ball. We don’t know if it was first game jitters or what. I would love to see two more games. Hell, even one full season. Lets go after Kellen Moore from Boise St.

What is his deal? I thought he was a decent OC? To run a trick play on 3 and 1 instead of giving it to the Beast. Lynch is a power back. He doesnt need very large holes to move the pile. Lets draw up some plays that will utilize our best features. Chester was in the game and was taking care of business on his side of the ball. Lets run it that way. That’s one broken tackle that can get us a yard or two.

Lynch still averaged 4.4 yards a carry. That’s pretty good in my book

I see a ton of people discounting first NFL start jitters. C’mon people. That’s a HUGE deal, particularly for a guy who waited so damn long to get his chance.

We’re talking a mediocre game, but even a SINGLE non-drop turned into TD instead of INT and his numbers would have looked a little better. But let’s look a little closer—

His first 10 passes he was 3-10 for 5 yards and an interception. It doesn’t get much worse than that.

He was also 7-15 for 37 yards and 2 interceptions.

How you couldn’t attribute a significant portion to nerves I have no idea, nor am I willing to abandon ship after a single incredibly crappy half. Hasselbeck’s had going on 3 crappy years now. Let’s try a different texture and smell for our crap!!!

It was meant to read that it would be different if Whitehurst was third on the depth chart behind Manning and Brady.