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Sunday Morning Bloody Mary: Bad Football, Good Football and Just Football

My wife was sick yesterday and so we did those things a couple does when one is sick and the other just wants try and be there: I read an interview with Joel Hodgson on the Onion A.V., we finished watching the Bourne Identity, I read a volume of Sandman comics, we re-watched Cave Dwellers, I played Chess Titans, we didn't watch Army vs. Navy. I didn't end up watching any football yesterday. Which isn't typical especially on a Saturday. I didn't even think about football until after Alanya went to bed. Which is really atypical.

CBS is airing Bengals at Steelers. I don't like either team, it's lopsided, and it's decidedly lopsided in favor of the team I dislike more, the Steelers. Yet I will probably still watch. Maybe something worthwhile will happen. Where's Richard Seymour when you need him?

We're nearing the best part of football season and the best part directly precedes the end of football season. The Seahawks play in the most important game Seattle has played in three years. We're nearing the most exciting part of the schedule, the most antagonizing, and the 6-6 Seahawks are underdogs against the same team that was supposed to kick their teeth in and run away with the NFC West after week one: the San Francisco 49ers.

In the intervening weeks, the 49ers and Seahawks have both proven to be bad teams. Seattle has the better record but the 49ers rate a little better by advanced stats. I am sure San Francisco would trade perception for reality. After Bengals-Steelers and Seahawks-49ers is the night game. The Eagles travel to Dallas to face the 4-8 Cowboys in another ugly seeming and completely irrelevant matchup. It's a Sunday of bad football.

It's a Sunday of football and good or bad, meaningful or meaningful seeming, it's football and I'll be watching, because after yesterday, I remember what February feels like.

ENJOY WITH ABSOLUT RESPONSIBILITY®

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I'm disappointed that they bumped New England at Chicago to 1 PM

I would have loved to have watched that game—especially with the ridiculous weather conditions at soldier field.

Maybe I’ll get lucky and it’ll snow during the Steelers game. I haven’t seen a snow game yet on my HD tv.

by Culter on Dec 12, 2010 10:00 AM PST reply actions  

I'd say the only difference between Hasselbeck and Palmer right now is that

Palmer has a green light to throw the ball. And that’s not a good thing.

by Culter on Dec 12, 2010 10:07 AM PST reply actions  

He may be 30, but he's playing like a 35 year old QB.

And his 15 INT total doesn’t tell the whole story. He has been brutal this year. Terrible decision making and his arm has abandoned him.

Put Hasselbeck on that team with those weapons and let him throw the ball 40 times a game like Palmer and he’d put up equally misleading numbers.

by Culter on Dec 12, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Against the Steelers, Ravens and Browns, I kind of doubt that.

And I don’t know what weapons you’re talking about. I wouldn’t trade Mike Williams for Chad Johnson and Terrell Owens.

by John Morgan on Dec 12, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Palmer lit up Cleveland in week 4 and struggled against the Steelers and Ravens

that’s not an impossible feat for Hasselbeck to duplicate.
 
As for the weapons, BMW is the superior talent, but Hasselbeck is very good at spreading the ball around, and TO/Ocho/Shipley/Gresham would make life very easy for Hasselbeck.

Bates and Carroll more or less gave Hasselbeck the green light to throw the ball starting in week 10, and Hasselbeck is averaging 302 yards a game with a 1/1 TD to INT ratio over that span. I don’t see why he couldn’t keep that up (give or take 20 yards) on a bad team like the Bengals that airs it out.

And again, this isn’t about me making Hasselbeck out to be better than he is. This is about Palmer being quietly awful. And the scary thing about Palmer is that he’s young enough for Cincy to mistakenly think that he’s still a franchise QB. At least Hasselbeck’s advanced age serves as a reality check for the Seahawks and any team that will consider him in the off-season.

I’m not big on advanced stats. Does Palmer fair well in any of them?

by Culter on Dec 12, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I agree, I'm not sure Palmer has a better arm than Hasselback

Or if he does, he definitely doesn’t know his arm’s limitations like Hasselback does. He has not adapted his game to current physical conditions

Stats are not a euphemism for tits

by Trenchtown on Dec 12, 2010 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Nice plug!

It has convinced me to enjoy some absolut responsibly.

Along with your theme, I get bucs at skins, which should be bad and give me an opportunity to scout the bucs.

by The-Wes on Dec 12, 2010 10:08 AM PST reply actions  

Realistically today's game is for the season

If we lose it’s probably over because there is no way we beat Atlanta and TB is another unlikely win. We’d be 6-9 at week 17.

The Rams will lose to the Saints (hopefully), they should beat Kansas City (if Cassel isn’t playing), San Francisco, and they would clinch the division.

If the Seahawks win then…well….SEA! HAWKS!

Accustomed to mediocrity.

by SSreporters on Dec 12, 2010 10:22 AM PST reply actions  

Cassel should be back by next week.

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by Hmph on Dec 12, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

WHOOOO!!!!

It’s probably hard to win with Brodie Croyle.

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by SSreporters on Dec 12, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow

If that was any other team, that was a 15 yard late hit penalty

by CurryInAHurry59 on Dec 12, 2010 10:26 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Funny thing is

You could be talking about any of them.

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by Hmph on Dec 12, 2010 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

So I'm thinking Jennings will suck again today

And will be benched just in time for Matt Ryan to come to town.

Accustomed to mediocrity.

by SSreporters on Dec 12, 2010 10:34 AM PST reply actions  

What a horrendous call in the OAK-JAX game.

Garrard was out of the pocket and the ball went past the line of scrimmage.

by Coach Owens on Dec 12, 2010 10:34 AM PST reply actions  

Yeaaaaaaaaah! I love me some Sandman.

You should read Lucifer when you finish. They do a really good continuation of the character.

by Jordinary on Dec 12, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Midsummer Night's Dream

Won a Sci-Fi lit award. Then they banned comics from the category.

“Cereal Convention”. And “24 Hours”. You’ll love ’em.

Go Alan Moore next if you haven’t. Watchmen, From Hell, V for Vendetta, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. There’s a reason why his stuff keeps getting made into movies.

by Groundhog on Dec 12, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

At least the Steelers are losing

now we need some kind of controversial turnover followed by a Palmer injury followed by a 35 point second half for Pittsburgh.

by John Morgan on Dec 12, 2010 10:44 AM PST reply actions  

So are we waiving the "don' talk fantasy" rule today?

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by Hmph on Dec 12, 2010 10:53 AM PST reply actions  

Gotcha.

Usually asleep for the early games, so I thought it was a standing rule.

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by Hmph on Dec 12, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow.

Anyone else just see the list of all the injuries the Bengals have had on defense?

by galvinx10 on Dec 12, 2010 10:56 AM PST reply actions  

The Packers-Lions game is incredibly frustrating for someone who started Megatron AND Jennings.

Nothing but running plays and interceptions, it seems.

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by Hmph on Dec 12, 2010 11:04 AM PST reply actions  

That would make it a baker's dozen......

I base that on no statistical figure or research, just wanted work in a great SNL line.

by Farrell on Dec 12, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I did research

And was is indeed 4 pick 6’s out of 16 INTs.

Accustomed to mediocrity.

by SSreporters on Dec 12, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I played Madden '02 for the first time in months

Marcus Pollard sucks balls in that game, too.

Accustomed to mediocrity.

by SSreporters on Dec 12, 2010 11:14 AM PST reply actions  

Then I just decided '02 Hasselbeck sucked way too much

And I ran it left side with Watters and Shaun over and over again.

Accustomed to mediocrity.

by SSreporters on Dec 12, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Is this pre or post Taco Wallace?

If it’s post… You’re ignoring your secret weapon. ahaha

by Jordinary on Dec 12, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Pre-Taco

But with the horrible Karstens Bailey.

I made Itula Mili and Christian Fauria work overtime.

Accustomed to mediocrity.

by SSreporters on Dec 12, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I used a lot of Reggie Tongue

I made Lamar King a beast.

Accustomed to mediocrity.

by SSreporters on Dec 12, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions  

It was.

With the classic Madden ’92 mode which is awesome.

Accustomed to mediocrity.

by SSreporters on Dec 12, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

'92 Madden, just spin moves with Walter Payton and you cannot be tackled.

2002 Franchise mode, I would just sign all the top free agents and trade them to the teams with the top 5 picks in the draft and every year have the first 5 picks. Not very sportly or competitive but I loved having a team of young studs.

by Farrell on Dec 12, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

What a weenie-whiner

Stats are not a euphemism for tits

by Trenchtown on Dec 12, 2010 11:18 AM PST reply actions  

Wow, Green Bay and Detroit

scoreless at the half…

Beam yourself up

I'm a one man rec'n crew

by jubelthebear on Dec 12, 2010 11:18 AM PST reply actions  

And Rodgers not in for the Packers right now.

A critical game for their playoff hopes. Not looking good.

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by Hmph on Dec 12, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

And both teams are a combined 0/14 on 3rd Down conversions.

Yes, it’s that bad.

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by Hmph on Dec 12, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Random question tiiime!

Do you guys feel sympathy for the Bronco’s fanbase? It just seems like a lot for a football fan to watch happen to their franchise.

by Jordinary on Dec 12, 2010 11:19 AM PST reply actions  

I feel bad for the fans that didn't buy in 100%.

Everyone who was rushing to call McDaniels a genius? No, not really.

by John Morgan on Dec 12, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I noticed that

He even threw a TD pass to Murphy as if to say “Look coach! I can throw to Murphy too!”

Beam yourself up

I'm a one man rec'n crew

by jubelthebear on Dec 12, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

"OH MY DEAREST BEN!"

Dierdorf just sounded like a parent watching his child get injured on the field.

Then Dierdorf proceeded to use “Ben in a sandwich” and “he could use a hot tub”.

(cut to Dierdorf in the booth wearing Ben’s Varsity Letter Jacket)

by Farrell on Dec 12, 2010 11:26 AM PST reply actions  

Pete Carroll is throwing to Obo and BMW

People at the stadium saying BMW’s body language isn’t good.

Accustomed to mediocrity.

by SSreporters on Dec 12, 2010 11:26 AM PST reply actions  

Bummer. Is he gimpy?

Where do you find this info, anyway? God I miss going to games and being able to watch that stuff. wastes away in Denver, 1500 miles from the nearest ocean

by jhmg16 on Dec 12, 2010 11:45 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

weird

Asterisks are code tags for bold?

by jhmg16 on Dec 12, 2010 11:45 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

49ers inactives

49ers declared K Joe Nedney, QB David Carr, OT Alex Boone, OT Joe Staley, LB Thaddeus Gibson, CB William James, and CB Tramaine Brock inactive for Week 14 against the Seahawks.

by Culter on Dec 12, 2010 11:42 AM PST reply actions  

David Garrard throws a pretty deep ball.

Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?

by Benne on Dec 12, 2010 11:47 AM PST reply actions  

Morgan, what do you think of Chess Titans?

Just curious. Screenshots show a 3D option which I hate.

Cake for me too, please.

by shams on Dec 12, 2010 12:18 PM PST reply actions  

3D can be turned off.

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by Hmph on Dec 12, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

How are difficulty levels?

Is it one of those deals where level 4 is easy and level 5 is impossible?

Cake for me too, please.

by shams on Dec 12, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Seems alright.

Just started using it. I have tried 1-4 and the top difficulty level, and the first four are very easy and the last is, well, obviously.

by John Morgan on Dec 13, 2010 1:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Level 5, also pretty easy.

But noticeably more competent. Seems like a quality skill curve.

by John Morgan on Dec 14, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow that was a bad play in Detroit just now.

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by Hmph on Dec 12, 2010 12:20 PM PST reply actions  

HELLER!

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by SSreporters on Dec 12, 2010 12:30 PM PST reply actions  

Jason Campbell just got killed.

Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?

by Benne on Dec 12, 2010 12:43 PM PST reply actions  

RUN DMC

Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?

by Benne on Dec 12, 2010 1:00 PM PST reply actions  

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