Kentwan Balmer at Strongside End
Kentwan Balmer forced his way out of San Francisco because he didn't want to play end in a 3-4. The young man got his way. He now plays strongside end in a 4-3. As a playmaker in his new playmaking position of making plays, Balmer has averaged three tackles a game as a starter.
Balmer forced his way out of San Francisco for various reasons, but I am going to go out on a limb here and say part of it was probably a personality conflict with Mike Singletary. Seattle swapped a sixth for Balmer. The assumption was the Balmer was bad but Balmer could be good.
The corollary of the theory that Seattle's defense has collapsed because of the loss of Red Bryant is that Balmer has been very, very bad as a replacement. That is, unless Seahawks fans believe Bryant is better-than-Haloti Ngata-good, some of the presumed collapse the defense has experienced is that Bryant's backup can not carry Bryant's cleat caddy. Is that the case? What is a cleat caddy? Did I make up a compound noun to avoid writing "jock strap"?
No, I did not.
Apart from a week one sack, the two's statistics are similar. Bryant had 18 tackles in seven starts. That doesn't tell us a whole lot, but maybe a sampling of Balmer's plays can.
We will do a full writeup in the off-season. This isn't that. Through this series, however long it takes, we will look at plays from throughout Balmer's time as the starting strongside end. They will be picked at random and focus on what Balmer himself is doing or not doing adequately, and also his role within the greater scheme. Let's follow the timeline from his first start at strongside end, week nine against the Giants.
Ok, so these are not quite picked at random. I am not sure the human brain is capable of random. A better way to put it is this sample is intended to include a variety of plays. Not just plays Balmer "made a play" but plays in which Balmer was important to the outcome.Let us start after the blowout was on but before the Giants had stopped trying.
1-10-SEA 40 (12:53) 27-B.Jacobs left end to SEA 33 for 7 yards (29-E.Thomas)
Run directed at the left plus a tackle by Earl Thomas implies this was run at the weak side. Let's see.
It's not. Balmer is playing a kind of three tech opposite the offensive right. Aaron Curry is over the tight end. Aligned in a receding diagonal line is Curry, Lofa Tatupu and David Hawthorne.
From the formation, we can see how the run is supposed to be stopped.
Balmer ties up the tackle and guard. He maybe fights through and tackles.
Curry staggers the tight end and maybe fights through and tackles.
Tatupu attacks the fullback ... and tackles.
Hawthorne must tackle.
Giants run a stretch left. The right side of the defensive line holds, even creates a little push.
Notice Clemons is unblocked. No one has cut him. He's free to pursue from the backside. Also, notice the Seahawks defense is breaking down, but though the run is directed at the strong side, the defense is breaking down on the weak side.
What is that break down? It is Craig Terrill smashed into the line and, more importantly, Chris Snee pulling to block Hawthorne.
Tatupu appears to be out of position, but he probably chased the fullback. The fullback is his assignment and so though an argument can be made for freelancing, you don't typically want to chase the ball carrier and avoid the lead blocker. That is how short runs go to the house.
On to Balmer. You can not see Balmer directly but you can see his influence. Balmer and Curry have created that big jumble of Giants behind the line of scrimmage that is creating the long edge. Look at Jacobs. He is running horizontally. The Seahawks have accomplished something. The Seahawks will accomplish nothing. Something good is happening in this play. But the weak side, Hawthorne, Terrill and Clemons, are all out of position, incapable of running Jacobs down from behind and/or blocked.
A split-second later, Jacobs turns the corner.
From Balmer's perspective, he could have generated more push. That might be the difference here between Balmer and Bryant. If this failure had to be pinned on one player, we would probably have to assign it to Tatupu. At some point Tatupu has to and does transition from stuffing the fullback to pursuing Jacobs and an NFL-caliber middle linebacker has to be able to prevent Brandon Jacobs from turning the corner.
But Seattle's defense collapses because the player that has to tackle is blocked out by the right guard. Hawthorne never escapes from Snee, and that leaves Kelly Jennings and Earl Thomas as the last line of defense. We can all see how Jennings rolls. Thomas takes care of business, but it's too late and Jacobs rushes for seven.
Seattle runs a ton of stretch plays and so Seahawks fans should be familiar with how it works and especially how it fails. Once in a blue moon does one of Seattle's guards pull into the second level and dominate a linebacker like Snee is dominating Hawthorne. Snee of course is a Pro Bowl talent, but I would argue the difference is not Snee's ability to block in space. The difference is that Snee is able to move through Seattle's weak side without any substantial delay.
Check out that second photo again.
Jacobs is just receiving the hand off and Snee is already in position to block in the second level.
Stacy Andrews is still stumbling out of the blocks.
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Aside from OL and WR, the "Red Bryant" position
is something we seem to have been really trying to upgrade in FA (after Red went down). I think that either that demonstrates some dissatisfaction with the talent we have there or a desire for more depth (competition!) at the position.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Dec 16, 2010 4:10 PM PST reply actions
Balmer has started every game at SS end since Bryant went down.
I am trying to think who you mean by this:
is something we seem to have been really trying to upgrade in FA (after Red went down)
Frank Okam? Clifton Geathers?
Those guys
Like I said, it might just be a depth issue.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Dec 16, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
Jay Richardson?
There was a piece on him a few weeks in one of the local papers. He was talking about how surprised he was to get snaps the first week he got here.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Dec 16, 2010 7:58 PM PST up reply actions
Here ya go:
Now, I’m basically thinking that they just need my as a practice guy and I’ll wear a baseball cap on game day and wave a fresh towel. I figured they’d work me in slowly and use me if the absolutely needed me… I figured wrong.
I was told I’d be active by my coach on Friday and that I’d be backing up the starting end. This came as a shock to say the least. I’m basically going from the couch to playing against the New York Giants in four days! That’s not everyday stuff, but God never puts you in a situation you can’t handle.
I did my best to learn the playbook over the next two days and on Sunday, I went to work. Not only did I play, but I played a lot. I actually didn’t play too bad–had a couple tackles and tried to knock the rust off without getting embarrassed. We didn’t win, but I was just thankful to be doing what I loved again.
http://www.footballnewsnow.com/2010/jay-richardsons-view-from-the-sidelines-seahawk-and-loving-it/
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Dec 16, 2010 8:02 PM PST up reply actions
"We can all see how Jennings rolls."
What… you mean the guy nicknamed ‘Slim’ isn’t stout in the run game?
If you can't depend on Kelly Jennings to stop the run, who can you depend on?
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Dec 16, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
I miss B Russ.
He was dependable.
"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM
Author of The Seahawks Asylum: http://seahawksblog.wordpress.com
In the worst way possible.
Cue the grits somebody.
This wooden soul of mine, it cannot ever climb from places it has fallen: In between where light can shine. It never falls in line, it barely has a spine, like branches severed from the vine. Like it was faulty by design.
I can't see it, but it looks like Terrill should have slowed up Snee more
Even just a second could have changed this play dramatically.
Yep, he is a serious liability
and Jennings appears to run himself into the pile. Shouldn’t he be thinking ‘contain’ here? Tatupu has to release and at least push Jennings further down the line. Hawthorne should recognize that Clemons has the cutback and move horizontally down the line to disengage from Snee…
no one can assume anyone is available to make the play
at the very least he needs to be able to disengage and run horizontally with Jacobs to force him closer to the sideline or to cutback.
A D will never work if guys don't trust the other guys to do their jobs
Tatupu has to do his job and know that Heater can do his. That being said he may have been able to help string it out more, but without Heater there it won’t matter much.
point taken but...
Jacobs bounced it outside which made disengaging from his ‘assignment’ an imperative
Yes but....
Its too late to stop it correctly at that point. Heater should already be in positiona and Lofa should be in cleanup mode.
I hate to rag on Tatupu, but it's tough watching him outpaced by Brandon Jacobs.
Jacobs had 4.56 speed—five years ago.
That’s a debilitating lack of range for a middle linebacker.
You think Hawthorne will take his place in the near future?
And if so, what happens to Tatupu?
"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM
Author of The Seahawks Asylum: http://seahawksblog.wordpress.com
I'm starting to wonder if Tatupu's ability is the key component to our struggling D?
He’s fallen so far so fast, I think it’s time for a salary adjustment and perhaps a new MLB.
(And I HATE saying it, but I am simply being practical here.)
"You tell me with confidence that you think Charlie could have done better and I will laugh beer in your face." JohnnyOsprey
by Tyler Jorgensen on Dec 16, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions
I've had the same thoughts.
How many years do we wait for Lofa to become “Our Lofa of 2005” again? Seems to me that Heater is making all the plays out there.
It's STILL great to be a Florida Gator!
by Wayward Llama on Dec 17, 2010 3:53 AM PST up reply actions
Interesting point. I completely forgot about his knee.
"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM
Author of The Seahawks Asylum: http://seahawksblog.wordpress.com
Also..
considering the nature of this run – a stretch play in which Jacobs is ‘forced’ to bounce outside, shouldn’t we expect Earl Thomas to be sprinting up the field to make this play sooner?
I know it is sort of douchey thing to suggest
considering he is the last line of defense, and I may also undervaluing the potential for play action. Just seems to me he should be there sooner
Is the role of the weakside to penetrate rather than contain
What I’m getting at was whether this was a fail on Terrill for not holding up Snee longer or was this a scheme problem
It depends on who it is on the weak side but
In our D, I was under the impression that the under tackle has to hold up the line and keep them off of the LBs. Clemens penetrates/contains and in this case should be chasing down the play from behind but not too deep to create a cutback lane.
Terrill is supposed to try and penetrate, I presume
so the question might be, should Clemons and Terrill been able to hold up Snee longer, or should Clemons and Terrill be able to muster some kind of back side pursuit?
It would seem to be a convergence of scheme failure and talent that can not orchestrate it.
well the pictures show that the right tackle engaged Terril and that leaves no one...
on Clemons. What does he do? Kind of hard so see but either he is indecisive or slow to recognize, but he is definitely slow to pursue. The more I look at this the more this play shows his deficiency.
Terrill was replacing Mebane, who was injured, correct?
Pretty huge drop off. Would this same thing happen with Mebane in there? Our weakside takes a huge hit without Mebane.
Also, Clemons probably should’ve taken the route through the backfield? Or is he protecting against the cutback?
I think I pointed out in a recent thread, that backside pursuit might be part of the problem.
And that that would be a problem with Clemons and not the scheme. I have noticed a lack of backside pursuit. I’ve seen enough backside pursuit from ends and tackles that blow up stretches to know it’s not an inherent lack from size.
It would seem to me that Clemons would/should be a skilled backside persuit DE, considering his lack of size and his mobility.
Other than pure passrush, there isn’t anything else I would expect him to do well, but backside pursuit?
He moves fast and hustles.
I have a hard time believing there are a lot of better DE’s out there.
"You tell me with confidence that you think Charlie could have done better and I will laugh beer in your face." JohnnyOsprey
by Tyler Jorgensen on Dec 16, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
I kind of feel the same way. I haven't seen enough to really get a handle on why it's not showing up.
So on that account there may be something systemic. As is, not inherently schematic but taught by the coaches. Assignments or something. I don’t know. I just know I haven’t seen it almost at all and I doubt it’s because of an unbalanced line. Like you said, he ought to be able to move faster when called for, right?
by jacobstevens on Dec 16, 2010 5:09 PM PST up reply actions
true...
I seem to remember a lot of Patrick Kerney tackles on plays just like this one
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meant to reply to jacobstevens comment
Contain here is a huge issue.
I think the initial breakdown happened with Curry. Yes, the SS line with Curry and Balmer generate push, but it is the wrong kind of push. Curry has his back to the sideline before the ball is even handed off, when at End he should be more worried about getting upfield from the outside. He needs to keep his outside shoulder free, or all the penetration in the world will not help this play. Look at the picture of the hawks stretch play, all the penetrating D lineman have their outside shoulder free and are not “hooked.”
Secondly, Jennings just takes a terrible, terrible angle. He runs under the block instead of over it, and loses the sideline in the process. He makes himself an easy target for the blocker (12?) and again, this allows the play to get outside.
Tats needed to recognize stretch and attack the fullbacks outside shoulder, which not only nullifies the blocker but allows Tatupu to move outside and tackle Jacobs.
Depending on weak side players to make the play on the strong side sideline is a fools gamble. It concedes 5 yards every time, if not more. This play could have been turned inside many times, but poor execution resulted in a good gain.
by Fightfightfight on Dec 16, 2010 5:26 PM PST reply actions
nice work
good point about the strong side push too. It’s easy to assume that any and all ‘push’ is a good thing.
Let me just say...
You all blew my mind in your detailed analysis and further reflection. This is some awesome stuff.
The timing of this post is curiously coincidental to me.
I was thinking yesterday of who could we add to our defensive line and where to help improve the defense. Add a 3-tech to play next to Mebane?
Then, I was pondering the idea of Seattle making an off-season push to sign one Haloti Ngata, a UFA in 2011. Surely he would be the #1 player we could put in Red’s spot. Red could be in a rotation or they could somehow get on the field together. Surely Ngata has to be a free agency consideration – if Baltimore doesn’t tag him or extend him before UFA (pending labor situation). Build the lines.
Balmer’s play has gone largely unnoticed to me. This will be interesting to follow. It seems this team is laden with replacement-level or worse stop-gaps. I’m not convinced Balmer is one, but I’m also not convinced that he isn’t one.
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I'm curious to see the rest of this breakdown on Balmer
From my observations, he’s been adequate at end. Obviously, you’d wish for better than “adequate”, especially when that performance would put him as one of our top DLs this year, but I put the failure more on the fact that he’s been lining up next to the likes of Jay Richardson and Craig Terrill way more than any sane DC would want.
Just seeing those guys get their teeth kicked in on play after play is so discouraging. Although I guess statistically we didn’t fare too much better against the Niners with Cole and and Balmer back, so maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about.
Wow the picture of the Hawks O-line
Man either the Hawk O-line blows, or KC has a bunch of all pros.
Balmer does a decent job here. It would be neat to have the rediculous penetration that KC gets but he is not being walked back off the line.
I don't know about all-pros...
…but 2/3 of their line are recent early first-round picks (Dorsey, T.Jackson).
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Balmer at SF
Didn’t he get like very little game time at SF? It could take him a bit . Dorsey took a while at KC didn’t he ? I’m not positive but I heard his name and the word “Bust” tossed around .

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