Predict the Winner
by John Morgan on Dec 30, 2010 2:31 PM PST
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PrintFootball Outsiders thinks the Rams will win. Brian Burke thinks the Seahawks will win. I think the Seahawks will win, but Charlie Whitehurst starting makes it very hard to predict anything with confidence. Seahawks fans seem to think Seattle is the worst team in the NFL right now, or among the worst, and that St. Louis is better. Many Seahawks fans also seem to think Qwest has lost something this season, but I think blaming Qwest for the Giants and Falcons stomping mud holes through the Seahawks is unfair. Seahawks Stadium didn't hatch this monster. It just hosts its weekly extermination.
So I throw it out to you. Who wins this Sunday? The Rams start a rookie. The Seahawks start a less accomplished 28 year old career backup. The Rams have the better defense. The Seahawks have the better special teams. The Seahawks host. Seattle has collapsed down the stretch. The Rams have not. By weighted DVOA, the difference between the Seahawks and the Rams, 21.9%, is greater than the difference between the Rams and the Jets, 20.8%. Are we in store for a blowout?
No way, right?
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It's win/win
Win and we get a new pennant thingy that can hang somewhere in the stadium. Lose and we get a better draft pick.
by Scotia Seahawk on Dec 30, 2010 2:35 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
Yes sir.
Exactly how I feel. Can’t wait for the game. Will be happy win or lose.
Neither stat really takes into account the effect of playing Charlie instead of Matt
not to mention all the other changes to the depth chart that have happened over the course of the season (or even the last couple of games).
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Dec 30, 2010 2:36 PM PST reply actions
It doesn't matter.
they’re going to throw five yard screens to Jackson all day and run all over us. I don’t think we CAN win this game, let alone will.
Last game of the 2010 regular season, if I'm not mistaken
NBC sure knows how to put on a show.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Dec 30, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
Epic is the EXACT word I was looking for
go hawks!?!
Seahawks win.
As crazy as it sounds I actually think Seattle could win big, especially if they can establish an early lead and force Bradford to beat them down field.
He's also had troubles when he forced out of the pocket
but then we seem to give up big plays in these sorts of situations.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Dec 30, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
Just to add.
I’m not convinced Whitehurst will start. I think when it comes to Sunday Matt is gonna find a way to play.
In what he knows is probably his last game at Qwest?
Quite probable. I’m sure he’s lobbying hard.
Llama's cut/release list:
Hasselbeck, Locklear, Andrews, Terrill, Cole, Trufant, Jennings
by Wayward Llama on Dec 30, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions
No, his last game at Qwest will be the Division round blowout.
:(
by John Edwards on Dec 30, 2010 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
i was thinking that
it’s his last game, if i was him i will do anythig to play that game. I think we can win if the stadium play their part in making Bradford nerves crack
If our corners can step it up..
…and if Pete throws in the 5-6-7 DB packages a lot to help contain Bradford’s passing game, I think we have a decent shot. It’s the air game that I’m worried about; honestly, I don’t think Jackson is going to have a monster day against us. A respectable day, but not a monster day. If we can blanket their receivers effectively, I can see us winning. If we can’t, Qwest will probably start chanting “Locker, Locker, Locker!”
An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Dec 30, 2010 2:45 PM PST reply actions
And we lose a few draft spots...
So there’s your lose/lose.
Seahawks vs Rams
The Seahawks couldn’t stop a bus in the transit tunnel Whitehurst? Enough about that huge trade mistake. Rushing? Only if they are planning to pledge to Delta Delta Nu. Bradford, one the the best first year QB’s ever. The Line: Rams by 17
Oh jeez
Fox runs those commercials, it seems, at least eighty times during any given game…
An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Dec 30, 2010 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
Winner - Cars and Freedom
Loser – Airplanes and security checks
Seahawks drive home. Rams fly. Winner America.
The air game will kill the hawks
Unless they can blanket the receivers (yeah, I was surprised that the Rams had ‘em too). Then it’s a one-dimensional game that I don’t think St. Louis is talented enough to win. Offensively, the Hawks have to get Lynch going. The run game has looked up in the first half the last few games, but they need to continue that throughout the entire game.
An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Dec 30, 2010 3:01 PM PST reply actions
If Leon has another game like he did against the Chargers
yeah, we win. Otherwise we lose. I can’t see Charlie taking us down the length of the field against that defense enough times to offset how badly our D should be shredded by Bradford and Jackson. Love my Hawks but our depth has been tested and has been found wanting.
Earl Thomas = God-send
America is the big loser
either way they get a stinker of a 1st round game to witness. The Saints or Falcons get a virtual bye.
The Rams are more talented, hungrier and start a real QB
They win in a surprisingly close game 20-17
If you are saying that Josh Brown kicks the game-winning FG
I have some serious issues with prediction.
I'd die.
Llama's cut/release list:
Hasselbeck, Locklear, Andrews, Terrill, Cole, Trufant, Jennings
by Wayward Llama on Dec 30, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
I agree
Winner – Rams
Winner – Seahawks
Loser – America
I expect the League to prefer the rams in this game.
They’ll be a much better draw and story going into the playoffs, so I expect a horribly officiated game.
by hazbro24 on Dec 30, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Seahawks win vs the Rams.
They then win three playoff games, make it to the Super Bowl and beat the Stealers (chosen for the ironic outcome). The NFL decides to end professional football because not only did the Seahawks win the Super Bowl, but they were the first sub .500 team in the playoffs (non-strike season), as well as a truly terrible team. The whole state of Washington is drunk for half a year from victory parties.
Brett Favre still comes back for another season.
by Cramer05 on Dec 30, 2010 3:22 PM PST reply actions 7 recs
I think it's clear...
No matter the outcome, the terrorists win.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
So what if Whitehurst lights fireworks on sunday
and the team wins and advances to the playoffs and are impressed with his performance. Do they start him or Hasselbeck for the home playoff game?
Controversy reignited
Whitehurst starts, but if he craps in the first half of the first playoff game, then Hass comes in 2nd half.
An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Dec 30, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
Rams
By 21. Next year, there will be zero seahawks who played in Super Bowl XL. The enormity of the late-season collapse will be punctuated by yet another blowout at home. Carroll will be forced to fully commit to the rebuild as he must blame the inherited players.
by jeager on Dec 30, 2010 3:49 PM PST via mobile reply actions
"Next year, there will be zero seahawks who played in Super Bowl XL"
Thats a sad thought once you think about it.
"SCANNING DEFENSES... EXPLOITING!"
Ummm You're Mistaken!
Tatupu played in Superbowl XL. I don’t think he’s going anywhere. Also Babineaux was in Superbowl XL . We might even bring back Craig Terill again. So you’re incorrect sir.
But yes, I hope Locklear’s no longer a Seahawk whenever the next NFL season starts up.
But as for your other prediction of Carroll having to rebuild… you’re a complete moron!
Are you saying that this team is not rebuilding?
by splintrdmind on Dec 31, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions
I think
That Schneider and Carroll will continue to do what they feel is best. We’ll see how Whitehurst performs next week against a ballhawking defense like New Orleans. but as for my post. I was merely pointing out that we’ll likely have Tatupu and Babineaux the next NFL season, so I was refuting PastaMaker’s statement about no Sehawks from Superbowl XL next year.
I bet if you ran this poll last Sunday night the results would have been way different.
As the game gets closer my fanhead overpowers my logichead and I start to believe a little more each day. 5pm on Sunday I will be talking about the playoff game next week to the fans around me. I hope there is more hugging than swearing in section 339.
If I'm going to root for an all-tools QB starting for my Seahawks it better be Jake Locker.
I'm a full time fan, gotta vote for My Seahawks and the 12th Man!
"Do you really want to go that way?"
My gut says the Rams will win and it'll be an ugly game by both sides.
But, whatever. I’ve already used my Sounders promotional code to buy my playoff tickets should the Hawks win.
We'd forfeit draft position.
The record would be better than teams that lost, so we’d likely lose a few places.
by splintrdmind on Dec 30, 2010 5:22 PM PST up reply actions
it also depends on who wins on Sunday
Tenn, Was & Minn are all 6 win teams. If they all win & the Seahawks tie, the ’Hawks drop to the 11th spot no?
by jubelthebear on Dec 31, 2010 1:41 AM PST up reply actions
Rams 44 Seahawks 13
Turnovers galore by Seattle set up several short fields for St. Louis.
At least in previous years I felt Seattle could pull off some upsets but I feel so deflated and worn out I am amazed they’ve been able to win some games during this funk.
Accustomed to mediocrity.
"Many Seahawks fans also seem to think Qwest has lost something this season"
Here’s what I think about Qwest:
1.) It’s not as vaunted a place to come because the team sucks. The crowd is still very loud though.
2.) Now that teams recognize a football team in Seattle they aren’t as shell-shocked as the Giants were in ‘05 and ’06 and can handle the noise better than in year’s past.
Accustomed to mediocrity.
I've been to almost every game at qwest since '04 and it's just not the same anymore
It’s only gotten truly Qwest loud twice this season.
It was ‘05 loud during select moments in the Chargers game and for about 30 seconds of the Panthers game and even those moments were nothing compared to the epic nonstop noise of ’04-’06
Some reasons i’ve seen are that there are a lot of new qwest attendants. There has been a lot of noise during offensive drives which is just a nono and many other moments where it seemed like the entire crowd had never been to a game at qwest or even a football game in general.
Also whenever the offense sputters it reaaaaaaally takes the crowd out of the game and that’s basically been the last 3 seasons. Defense does something sweet and the crowd gets pumped and then a 3 and out from the O just loses all of the steam.
If they started winning again it would change.
Correction
The crowd is loud until the team goes down 3 scores. And the 12th Man gives up and acts like a supporting section fit for a losing team. The 12th Man has sucked as hard as any player this year. I hope we are looking to spend a high draft pick on a new 12th Man this year.
I agree on teams adapting to the noise though. (When there is noise).
It's reciprocal
if they do well; we cheer them. If they do bad we get quiet, or worse. But heck ask yourself this: should a fan not quit on their team when the team has quit on itself?
by jubelthebear on Dec 31, 2010 1:43 AM PST up reply actions
Seahawks win
we drop 10 spots in the draft And then Okung and Mebane both blow out knees in the playoff game.
Seems about par for the course at this point
by flyinmonky on Dec 30, 2010 6:17 PM PST via mobile reply actions
You forgot Thomas.
He’ll blow out a knee too. Oh, and Mike Williams will announce that he is so disheartened by the playoff loss that he cannot return to Seattle next year. And Matt Hasselbeck leads a late and ultimately unsuccessful playoff game surge via dumpoffs and double-move routes which causes the team to re-sign him to a three-year contract with $21 million guaranteed, and cements him as the starter for next year.
Oh, and Felix Hernandez tears his right rotator cuff raising the 12th Man flag.
There ya go.
You paint a rosy picture...
But as a lifelong Seahawk fan, it always turns out worse for us.
America wins.
America always wins. America, fuck yeah!
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 30, 2010 7:01 PM PST reply actions
That Korea contest is still going.
Overtime, I think… but not yet sudden death.
by Kryten on Dec 30, 2010 10:14 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It depends on who starts at QB
If Charlie starts, Rams by 20. If matt starts, Rams by 10.
John Hancock
America wins!
Because no matter who wins the game, we all get listen to the talking heads bitch and moan about play off seeding all summer long! Hoo-ray!
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