A Week of Tape Analysis of Russell Okung and Earl Thomas; Thoughts about Upgrading Leo and Over Tackle
Last week, I did a comprehensive look at the Seahawks -- first half. I could have rushed through last week or I could rush through this week, but I'd rather be incomplete than superficial. Breaking down Seattle's first half from last week and then watching the rest of the game later on, it struck me that Seattle's fallen into some patterns. It's not necessary to detail over and over again how the run defense breaks down, because it breaks down in much the same way each time, and it's not likely to overcome that weakness until it can improve some of its personnel.
So the tape analysis turns into beating a dead horse. If you're looking for it, it's not hard to see the Leo end blocked out by a tight end in real time, and the kind of havoc that creates for the run defense. Watching Steelers-Ravens last night, the crew pointed out one play in which a Baltimore tight end was matched against James Harrison. Harrison threw him off and made the tackle on the running back. Harrison is a linebacker, but he really is head and shoulders more stout against the run than Chris Clemons. I would like to see Clemons pushed into a backup role like the one currently manned by Raheem Brock. The guy's been a helluva find and his quickness around the edge is something the Seahawks haven't had since Patrick Kerney's 2007, but that pretty much defines his game and that pass rush-only skill set is why he has spent most of his career as a situational player.
If Seattle retains Brandon Mebane, and I certainly hope they do, adding another defensive tackle, someone that can demand a double team, someone that can create push, would also help. Colin Cole is the opposite of Clemons: all run stuffing ability and no pass rush. Both have been valuable for a team with modest aspirations, but for a good to great team, both would be more valuable as situational players.
Looking ahead, Seattle could sign someone like Johnny Jolly to take over for Cole. Mathias Kiwanuka makes some kind of sense at Leo, but stacking injury prone players seems unwise and this is a rich draft class for defensive ends. Re-signing Clemons and adding a couple young talents to challenge might be the best policy. But, Jolly, assuming his legal troubles are cleared up, is a slam dunk. The Packers played him at end to accommodate their switch to a 3-4, but he has the ideal Albert Haynesworth-like frame of a 4-3 tackle: not too tall, but wide as three men. Jolly is a quality athlete and could fill in for Bryant at strongside end.
So, anyway, lengthy aside completed, this week I will concentrate my tape analysis on two cornerstone rookies: Russell Okung and Earl Thomas. Line play is the easiest thing to evaluate from broadcast tape and free safety play is the absolute hardest, but I will do my best.
It didn't settle in right away, but after some reflection yesterday's win feels good. It might be years until Seattle finds their quarterback of the future and can cash in and become a contender, but the short term goal in Seattle may be better defined as a return to respectability. Seattle isn't there yet. Respectable teams tear apart the lowly Seahawks. But Seattle has become pretty good at dominating their peers in the underclass. That is a meaningful step towards escaping it.
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Earl Thomas needs to wrap up.
The little guy is going to kill himself if he keeps trying to tackle like he did on Sunday.
Okung can show him how to tackle.
I suffer from IBS, otherwise known as "Influx of Billick Syndrome".
amen...
I watched and rewatched Okung’s lambasting of that DB… it was some kinda awesome.
Any chance he can play DB and jam the receiver at the line?
I suffer from IBS, otherwise known as "Influx of Billick Syndrome".
Agreed, but that's been his style for a while
Just needs to work on it this off season and he’ll be fine.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Reclamation Projects
After seeing the Hawks success with former flame-outs and injury risks (BMW and Leon Washington for example), I sense other GMs will be more willing to take shots on players otherwise untouchable.
I would definitely be in favor of Jolly. Thankfully he'll be big on our radar, with certainty,
if his free agency does come to pass. Just read about his suspension, which possibly will facilitate that. Indefinitely seems overly harsh, but I suppose it’s because the amount of codeine constituted a felony.
What a hit huh!?!
After he laid the defender out Okung jumped up and jawed at a couple of Carolina players. The 2 minute warning was special with Walt’s ceremony and all, but man was it akward watching him stumble over 3 sentences. I don’t think Okung has that problem.
Here’s the video:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/seattle-seahawks/09000d5d81cab5da/Panthers-defense-INT
Linking to individual NFL.com videos is impossible, only the videos page
Annoys the shit outta me to this day.
"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM
Author of The Seahawks Asylum: http://seahawksblog.wordpress.com
Pick a video.
In the Flash container, while your mouse pointer is in bounds, there is a “Share” control near the top left.
When you click it, there are two options: an “E-Mail” tab and a “Link” tab. Select Link, and the URL is provided for you.
Although…I’ve done that, and it has worked and also not worked, but instead took me to the videos page. Not sure why.
Damn
I’ve never known that. Guess my video links have always been for naught. Thanks for the heads up.
Walt looked choked-up to me
I wouldn’t call that awkward.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Dec 6, 2010 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
He was definitely choked up, which I appreciated
What was akward though was watching him trying to finish the few probably-rehearsed statements, all the while seeing the teams waiting at the other end of the field for the 2 minute warning to end. I thought the ceremony should have been held at halftime.
Yeah, it was odd they held it at the 2 minute warning.
I think perhaps right before kickoff would have been best. Having it at half time has everyone getting up from their seats to go to the bathroom/get more beer. You can tell the teams were getting anxious though. I saw Hasselbeck throw some words at the officials and point down the field towards the ceremony. I would probably be worried that it was killing momentum or something.
Cool
I wasn’t able to watch the live broadcast of the game and didn’t even record it because I didn’t think I could stand it if the Seahawks lost to the Panthers. This game, coming after two beat-downs, had the potential for a season-defining meltdown like the Bucs game last year. Glad the Hawks pulled it together.
But this Okung clip is just cool. Especially the part where he jaws with the defenders after the hit. Guy’s going to be special if he stays healthy.
That was a beautiful hit
Maybe Okung should demonstrate tacking form to James Harrison? Would save Harrison another $100K in fines this season.
I see some comments disappeared
Not sure it’s publicly worth asking why.
I suffer from IBS, otherwise known as "Influx of Billick Syndrome".
Any opinion on Aaron Maybin?
6-4 250 is a Leo build right? He’s only 22 but the Bills appear to have given up on him. I was thinking he might be worth a look this off-season.
They've given up on him because he's pathetic at football
I suffer from IBS, otherwise known as "Influx of Billick Syndrome".
Well he obviously hasn't done anything yet
I’m just thinking out loud. He’s at least athletic.
I would support Mason Foster in ANY position on this team.
Including QB. I’ve never seen a guy care so much on such crappy teams.
And oh yeah, he’s really freaking good too. Bring him in!
John, this might not be your department, but could you find out what Clemon's wingspan is?
At times watching him he looks like if he bent a little at the knees he could scratch his ankles. It must be hard for a Tackle to engage him with Arms that can hold them outside his body so often. A couple of times he looked as though he were the big brother holding the top of his little bro’s head as the guy swings at nothing but air.
Apparently Okung had a pretty good hit yesterday. I think it was in the 3rd quarter.
I missed it and would like to see it. Anybody got that giffed yet or is there a highlight link to it?
Its the one upthread
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Dec 6, 2010 5:24 PM PST up reply actions
I missed the tackle because I was seething. Seeing the replay I can appreciate how large and awesome Okung is.
This guy so reminds me of a bulldozer.
by Joshua Kasparek on Dec 6, 2010 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
Draft names to consider (over tackle)
Jerrell Powe (Mississippi), a big (#320) tackle who was 2nd team all SEC in 2009 and 2010. He has accumulated a gaggle of tackles for loss in his career (24 of his 69). He’s an older guy (24) who just declared despite having a year of eligibility remaining. Rang has as a fringe second rounder.
Now if you’re just looking for big and country strong… Phil Taylor (Baylor) is bigger (#340) and profiles as more pure run-stuffer than havoc-wreaker.
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