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According to ESPN's Sal Paolantonio, the Seahawks have been in touch with the Eagles "non stop" for Kolb and McNabb.

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But offers apparently will come; Paolantonio says that Seattle coach Pete Carroll wants to win right away, and in Carroll’s mind that includes getting McNabb or Kolb.

It’s a bit dangerous to express lack of faith in your starting QB before the season begins if there’s a real possibility you’ll be stuck with him, which made me understand why Carroll’d be quiet. If this heard-it-through-the-grapevine is true, then PC is indeed of the same mindset as us vis-a-vis QB situation

by Thomas Beekers on Mar 10, 2010 6:36 AM PST reply actions  

I'd love to get Kolb.

McNabb, no thanks.

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by Wayward Llama on Mar 10, 2010 6:40 AM PST reply actions  

McNabb would be replacing one stop gap with another

But at least McNabb can still win games, more so than Matt.

I wouldn’t be a big fan either unless he’s available cheap. And I doubt that.

by Thomas Beekers on Mar 10, 2010 6:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I'd much prefer Kolb

But McNabb wouldn’t be terrible, either. He’s at least got a few more years in him, unlike Matt.

McNabb is 33.

6/14/40. Sweet.

by Nick Andron on Mar 10, 2010 8:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Pete Carroll in win now mode?

That’s scary and dangerous and reeks of Tim Ruskell.

by Flahawker on Mar 10, 2010 8:02 AM PST reply actions  

I would suggest all teams are in "win now" mode to varying degrees

Perhaps the difference is what one is willing to sell in order to be good now. Personally, I would be willing to give up #6 for Kolb or #40 for McNabb.

Kolb would certainly give us youth with upside at QB while projecting maturity to tie to the defenses projection.

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Mar 10, 2010 8:09 AM PST up reply actions  

There is no way I'd give up Kevin Kolb for a #6 pick. That's highway robbery.

The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.

by SSreporters on Mar 10, 2010 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I can feel ya! My personal opinion is that Kolb has shown the ability to compete at a high level (opinion, not fact. I'm too lazy)

Couple that with the uncertainty of a QB falling to #6, or that said QB would succeed, and I would suggest it a viable option with #6.

Again, I am only speculating here on my own personal opinion of a very limited viewing of Kolb in regular season action. I do believe he threw for 300 yards this past year in a game.

A weak position I’m sure. I just don’t have the time right now to provide the stats.

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Mar 10, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

oh. I think I misread your statement

If you are saying Kolb for #6 is highway robbery for Seattle, I would agree.

But it is fun to dream.

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Mar 10, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Look at what Cassel fetched in compensation.

Could we do something similar, I wonder?

The New England Patriots have traded quarterback Matt Cassel and linebacker Mike Vrabel to Kansas City for the Chiefs’ second-round pick in the 2009 draft.

We could send Hawthorne (LB is a need for PHI after releasing Witherspoon) and our #40 for Kolb. The #40 would allow Philly to add a piece that could contribute immediately for them and help them contend for a SB with McNabb still in the fold while adding a valuable and highly-coveted early 2nd rounder.

by Misfit74 on Mar 10, 2010 11:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Getting a possible franchise QB

For an early 2nd rounder and a backup MLB?
Yes, please.

by purplepansy on Mar 10, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I like Kolb. Moreso than Cassell

Thus, personally, I’d be willing to give up more. I actually think the Eagles would require the #6 and a 3rd in 2011 to even begin discussions.

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Mar 10, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

It's still a terrible trade

You’re basing Kolb’s perceived value at #6 on two games where he was thrown to the Super Bowl champs and predictably they were blown out, and putting 300+ (I think) against the Chiefs, one of the worst defenses this year.

He’s not worth a #6.

The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.

by SSreporters on Mar 10, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Because a #6 picked QB like Clausen or Bradford has more NFL games to base the pick on?

Yeah there’s a high risk with Kolb, but he was a near-1st round pick with years to study under McNabb who impressed when playing. I’m not a talent evaluator so who knows, but dismissing him on a low number of NFL starts seems counterproductive.

by Thomas Beekers on Mar 10, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions  

#6 for Kolb

thats crazy. we could just get a younger jimmy clausen with #6, or trade up for bradford, although it would take a lot to get the top pick. then draft an OT with #14, and hopefully we can get B.Marshall for a 2nd and 4th or sumthin. with cincy out of the marshall sweepstakes, it looks like we’ll just have to wait it out a little longer to lower denver’s asking price

by 64-18 on Mar 10, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

"win now" platitudes

Of course PC is all about “win now” but that is just a platitude. Get used to them but revel in the fact that the platitudes will be better than Jimmy “Nasty” Mora’s weekly spewings.

I am all for decisions to keep the sea-chickens competitive in the West as long as we don’t sell the future (ie, McNabb for #6).

Just a thought but has anyone seen how AZ has come back to division avg this offseason? Seems to me that the West is still pretty open but should be SF’s to take.

Shanghai Kelly's on Polk St. in San Francisco is the worst bar on the face of the earth (at least on Sunday mornings).

by elfaro47 on Mar 10, 2010 9:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah but

It just seems that if Seattle was truly going after another quarterback that they would have traded Hass to Cleveland and not Seneca Wallace. Holmgren would have taken him for sure, even in his decline.

I’m not sure McNabb makes sense for the new offense, but he is damn good. But unless you draft a quarterback you are still an injury away from suck-ville.

by Sonic Boom on Mar 10, 2010 8:26 AM PST reply actions  

Living in Seattle, I’ve followed the hawks quite a bit and watched games as well. I highly doubt I’m the only one who feels this way, but do a lot of you guys feel Seneca could actually have succeeded as an NFL starter?
 He was quick and could scramble around while throwing slants and curl routes, but I never saw him as a true potential starter. And he’s basically been riding the bench for the better part of 7 years, except for several games when Matt was out with injury..

by notfromphilly on Mar 10, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I never thought so

I knew he could be a guy to come in and run trick plays, I thought they were going to make him a receiver.

Give me an offensive line or give me death!

by Generzal Zod on Mar 11, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

If Seattle trades for Kolb

It can’t be seen as win now because he’s only seen real action for 2.5-3 games.

If Seattle trades for McNabb I think Carroll is saying “Seattle will win now…..just not with Hasselbeck”.

The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.

by SSreporters on Mar 10, 2010 8:57 AM PST reply actions  

This make sense.

The ‘win now’ comment is something I view as that of an ESPN reporter. I didn’t see a direct quote from Carroll, did you? This is the time for rumor-mongering and attention-getting by media types and bloggers. For Seattle not to look into acquiring Kolb would be not doing what our FO is paid to do. We need QB help. How serious these inquiry’s are remains to be seen.

I also agree w/ the above poster that McNabb has a few years left in the tank – Hasselbeck doesn’t have any years left, really. I’d be thrilled with Kolb. If McNabb came cheaply enough (like a 4th round pick or something) that would be acceptable, if not perferable. I’d much rather pay a near-premium for Kolb than anything in the same ballpark for McNabb. We are not close to making a SB run. We need youth at the position. McNabb would be nothing more than a two-year stopgap.

by Misfit74 on Mar 10, 2010 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

how about this idea

vick to pittsberg
dixon to seattle

by Funballad on Mar 10, 2010 9:08 AM PST reply actions  

Vick to Pittsburg

At least he can help coach Rothlisberger on how to act off the field.

Shanghai Kelly's on Polk St. in San Francisco is the worst bar on the face of the earth (at least on Sunday mornings).

by elfaro47 on Mar 10, 2010 9:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Roethlisberger is already well versed in dealing with bitches.

The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.

by SSreporters on Mar 10, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions   3 recs

As an Eagles fan

I would much rather see McNabb traded over Kolb. That being said, if the Seahawks are dumb enough to trade their #6 or #14 draft picks for either QB, I would gladly do the deal.

If you don’t want any of our QBs, I would not worry too much right now if I were you. There have been countless rumors this off-season of teams interested in one or more of our QBs. To what extent the Eagles are actually entertaining these interests is something known only to Andy Reid, Joe Banner, Howie Roseman, and the rest of the Eagles FO.

Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".

by Justin F. on Mar 10, 2010 10:38 AM PST reply actions  

You think it would be dumb

of the Seahawks to trade the #14 for Kolb? Wow, I wish you were the GM.

by purplepansy on Mar 10, 2010 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

As much as I like Kolb

and want to see him start for the Eagles, I would not want to give up a high 1st round draft pick for him if I were the Seahawks. Keep in mind, you would be trading a high draft pick for a QB who has only started 2 games. If I were the Seahawks, I would not do it. At the same time, though, it will probably take one of those 1st rounders and a good pick later in this draft or the 2011 draft for the Eagles to even think about moving Kolb. The way I see it, he is the least likely of our 3 QBs to be traded.

Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".

by Justin F. on Mar 10, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

Philly probably doesn’t want to get rid of Kolb and can afford to stand firm. Doesn’t hurt to entertain deals, but I think it would take a lot to get him. McNabb is the one who should be worried, if the Eagles are being smart. He’s getting up there and costs a fortune (11 mil next year?). The only way I could see the Eagles getting rid of Kolb is if they don’t think he’s all that good, in which case, getting something now out of him would be perfect. Either, I’m very wary of trading for Kolb (either because of what’d it take to get him or because he’s still an unknown quantity).

by B.B.Finnegan on Mar 10, 2010 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Some callers brought up the Vick possibility on the Kevin Calabro show this afternoon.

Passing drivers were wondering why I was screaming things like “NO YOU STUPID DUMBFUCK” at my dashboard.

--Shrug
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by Shrug on Mar 10, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

They just need to have something to talk about

no matter how stupid it sounds, when teams don’t give information people like to fill it themselves.

Give me an offensive line or give me death!

by Generzal Zod on Mar 11, 2010 9:18 AM PST up reply actions  

CSN Philly is a fairly reliable source.

Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".

by Justin F. on Mar 10, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Crap

That comment should have been posted in the subject headline.

Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".

by Justin F. on Mar 10, 2010 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

I'll see your speculation, and raise it:

Trade #14 for Kolb, #40 and spare parts for Marshall.

Then pick up a big ugly LT at #6. I don’t love any of the tackles that high, but given a promising QB and top 3 WR, you could live with the reach. OR trade down and nab an extra mid round pick.

I don’t think I’d take a flyer on Kolb in most scenarios, but thought I’d throw this wackadoodle one out there.

by G'd Up on Mar 10, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

The Marshall part isn't speculation

The Hawks could sign him to an offer sheet which would cost them the sixth pick.

by Nate Dogg on Mar 10, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Anything higher than #40 for Kolb would royally piss me off.

Throwing first round draft picks at backup quarterbacks who had a good game or two with a talented supporting cast isn’t much different than Oakland drafting the fastest damn guy at the combine every year: It’s using your most valuable resource in a knee-jerk fashion based on a very small amount of encouraging information. It’s not analysis, it’s a man-crush created by a short-term performance run.

by sev79 on Mar 10, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

That seems like an over reaction

Kolb migh only have a small sample size but it’s larger than any sample we have for the rookie quarterbacks. And it’s not like Kolb wasn’t pretty highly regarded coming into the league, he was drafted with the 36th pick. He’s still young and should be cheap for a couple more seasons.

I’m not saying that I’d make that trade but calling interest in Kolb a “man crush created by a short-term performance run” is going overboard.

by Nate Dogg on Mar 10, 2010 5:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Kolb was not highly regarded coming into the NFL

 Everyone everywhere criticized the Eagles for how much of a reach Kolb at #36 was. I will never forget the arrogant smug on Reid’s face afterwards and his quote of “I like them when they give me good quarterbacks” on the count that the Eagles traded for that draft pick and my subsequent thinking of, “you arrogant asshole, do you not realize you are the laughing stock of the damn draft for this. You traded down time after time again and when you finally did make a selection it was for a position that was not in need and a player who most had going in the 6th and 7th rounds AT BEST.”

All that out of the way, I would like to see him start for the Eagles now. But yeah, that was Kolb coming out of the draft and into the league, and I do not thin my opinion was the minority opinion then.

Proudly supporting a Flyers team with "no honor".

by Justin F. on Mar 10, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not calling interest in Kolb that...

Interest in Kolb is entirely justified. I’m certainly interested in Kolb.

The short-term performance comment was specifically directed at talk of giving up the #14 pick. Obviously this is my opinion and others can disagree, but I don’t see a rational way to value Kolb that high.

by sev79 on Mar 11, 2010 12:02 AM PST up reply actions  

What has he done?

He’s played in 3 games

Give me an offensive line or give me death!

by Generzal Zod on Mar 11, 2010 9:24 AM PST up reply actions  

It's a speculative scenario, overall. That's what I meant.

And no, I wouldn’t give up both first rounders for those two players…

by G'd Up on Mar 10, 2010 5:16 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, I don't know if I would either

but could you really expect to come away with much better than Marshall and Kolb for those two picks? They’re a couple years older than any rookie you’d take and Marshall is likely going to cost more than the 6th pick would, but they’re also more proven and ready to contribute now while still being a part of the teams future.

by Nate Dogg on Mar 10, 2010 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Our 2nd this year (which is high)

and another conditional pick next year based on performance? Starting 3rd, could end up as another 2nd?

by SPENCEMAN on Mar 10, 2010 6:23 PM PST reply actions  

I agree highly with that front page post your site’s main editor(?) “Josh Morgan” posted a couple days back. The one about this franchise being in rebuilding mode and giving up a high pick for a quality player now could be detrimental in the long run. Ruskell and other FO members royally screwed up allowing Holmgren to leave and not getting him into the FO when they had the chance, and also by screwing up many of your draft picks and FA signings/releases.

I honestly don’t think Carroll is the answer to the problems you had at HC last season. I admit Mora Jr. was bad in a lot of parts and didn’t really stand up for players when he should have, but giving him only one season to turn around a broken franchise is impossible.

by notfromphilly on Mar 10, 2010 6:25 PM PST reply actions  

Mora needed to go for the reasons you just stated.

That, and he was grossly incompetent. The firing was justified.

The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.

by SSreporters on Mar 10, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

It's being reported the Hawks only want Kolb

And the Eagles reportedly want two 1st round picks for him.

I’m gonna say no. He’s almost completely unproved. 690ish yard, 5 TD, 3 INT vs. Panthers & Chiefs on a high-flying offensive team is good, but he’s far from proven.

I’d give a first and a fourth for him, though.

6/14/40. Sweet.

by Nick Andron on Mar 11, 2010 8:46 AM PST reply actions  

Just saw that.

Yeah, insane. Sorry Philly. You’re not getting two firsts for the guy. I guess that’s probably a way for them to say “We’re really not interested in letting him go, unless you’re fucking crazy enough to give us two first round picks.”

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by Wayward Llama on Mar 11, 2010 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

That's how I would take that

they want to keep him around.

Give me an offensive line or give me death!

by Generzal Zod on Mar 11, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

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