Seattle makes Whitehurst offer
by bilbo on Mar 14, 2010 10:40 AM PDT
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"The Arizona Cardinals and Seattle Seahawks have extended contract offers to Chargers restricted free-agent QB Charlie Whitehurst, according to a source with knowledge of the situation.
Whitehurst, San Diego’s No. 3 quarterback behind Philip Rivers and Billy Volek, will make a decision on which offer sheet to sign within the next 48 hours, according to the source.
Once Whitehurst signs a contract, San Diego has seven days to match the offer. If the Chargers decline, the team that he signs with would owe San Diego a third-round pick (the restricted tender the Chargers placed on Whitehurst) unless other terms could be negotiated. Seattle currently doesn’t have a third-round selection in the 2010 draft because it traded it to Philadelphia last year in order to move up in the draft and select WR Deon Butler. However, Seattle has discussed other forms of compensation that have met guidelines approved by San Diego.
The fact that the Cardinals and the Seahawks have extended offers to the fourth-year veteran who has yet to throw an NFL pass means, at the very least, that they plan to add depth behind Matt Leinart and Matt Hasselbeck, respectively. It is more likely that Whitehurst could get an opportunity to compete with both quarterbacks, who aren’t locks to start for their teams in 2010."
I wonder how much they are offering and if this goes thru do they see him as a QB of the future, removing the need to draft a QB at 1.6. I also wonder what they offered instead of a third round pick? I had been talking with friends this week saying that if they believed in this guy maybe they would swap picks with SD at 14 in exchange for Whitehurst.
What do you think?
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I think I want to know what the compensation is.
I don’t have a problem with the guy himself. I just want to know what we’re offering to “pay” for him.
Fuck
As a person who lives not far from Clemson, and got way too many opportunities to watch Whitehurst underachieve, I cannot help but feel sick to my stomach.
Whitehurst is simply Derek Anderson without game experience.
If I’m wrong, I’ll own up to it. However, I cannot hope and pray he chooses AZ.
It is what it is...
I wouldn't compare someone with a 50.1 college completion percentage with someone with a 59.7 college completion percentage
Color me an optimist, but I have always like Charlie Whitehurst.
by John Morgan on Mar 14, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm a fan of Seattle
So I’ll be all in if he chooses Seattle.
I have many friends that are graduates of Clemson, and Whitehurst infuriated the fan base. He is 2006 version of Jevan Snead to me. Has all the tools, but never was able to rise to that talent when it mattered.
It is what it is...
Not to be dismissive, but I don't give a lot of stock to what fans of a team think about their quarterback.
It’s not like Whitehurst had any pro around him. I checked, I found Chansi Stuckey and Dustin Fry. The quarterback is the designated lightning rod whenever things go sour, but he was pretty successful on some pretty bad teams.
by John Morgan on Mar 14, 2010 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for the research
Typically, I’m reactionary. At the very least, Seattle makes the day more interesting.
It is what it is...
I'm a fan too and I've seen him play in a lot of pretend games
Don’t put any weight into Whitehurst not “beating out” Volek for the backup job. Volek might be the best backup in the league and Whitehurst was never given a real chance for 2nd string.
by lemonverbena on Mar 14, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Anderson earned that 50.1 his senior year
on a pretty easy schedule too – and the years before that he had Stephen Jackson to help stack people in the box.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
by Generzal Zod on Mar 15, 2010 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions
F that.
Blue Devils are ACC Champs.
by SeaTownBlueDevil on Mar 14, 2010 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Shaun Hill traded for a 7th rounder
And AZ and SEA are willing to give a 3rd rounder for Whitehurst. I must be wrong about Whitehurst.
It is what it is...
I agree
That’s too much for Shaun Hill
by lemonverbena on Mar 14, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
We know Shaun Hill sucks
Seneca has the special plays ability and we don’t know anything about Whitehurst
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
by Generzal Zod on Mar 15, 2010 12:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Sneak plays
but I will say running around in the back field for a 12 yard loss is a special play.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
by Generzal Zod on Mar 15, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
If I'm Whitehurst I might be leaning towards Arizona
Seems like more of a wide-open opportunity to start, and hipster Whitey might prefer the desert climate. Then again, the guy is pretty grunge…
In other news: are you fucking kidding me, Walrus? Thank god Holmgren took the Cleveland job.
by lemonverbena on Mar 14, 2010 11:52 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The thing is, Leinert isn't 34
If he has a good season, the Cardinals aren’t likely to bench him. Whitehurst probably isn’t looking to continue holding the clipboard; even if Hasselbeck plays well in 2010, he’s older, a soon-to-be free agent and (somewhat) injury-prone. Seattle is much clearer path to becoming a starter than Arizona.
I like your reasoning, but have you watched Matt Leinart take NFL snaps? He's bad.
From a conventional-wisdom perspective Arizona may be the more “open” opportunity.
by lemonverbena on Mar 14, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I specifically remember Leinert looking aood against us in Week 2 of the 2007 season
Even remembers Shaun’s fumble, but in the 1st half Leinert looked very impressive. Was that the exception or the rule? I’m not sure, but I’m also not sure Whitehurst will just assume Leinert is paper lion.
He's had very good games against Seattle.
But, strangely, against most other teams, he struggles.
One thing that I have observed is that he can pick apart the zone almost effortlessly.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Mar 14, 2010 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Most quarterbacks have very good games against Seattle.
I wouldn’t put much stock in how they play us.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett
by Wayward Llama on Mar 14, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm not talking about last year.
Even in 2007, he had a good game against Seattle, and that was Seattle’s best season against quarterbacks statistically this decade.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Mar 14, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
He Destroyed the Bears.
Bears who we thought they were, crown their ass, etc. Cards lost but Leinart sliced that SB-calibre defense better than anyone except Manning in the SB.
So it’s weird to me to see people write Leinart off so easily. He’s less likely to achieve that kind of form regularly, than he is to just be an average QB, but it seems to me he’s very unlikely to be a particularly bad starting QB.
by jacobstevens on Mar 15, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Whoa. I can absolutely root for that dude.
by Nate Dogg on Mar 14, 2010 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is it the hair or the suit?
I think I’m in love with the hair. He’s like our very own Jesus in Seahawks-blue and nuclear-cabbage. Yeah, I’d be alright with the Whitehurst for a couple of years, even if he turns out to not be very good. He’d be fun to watch, just to see that hair flowing in the wind after a pick-6…
Jeez, can you imagine that guy in our green uniforms?
Talk about future-retro.
He looks a little like Dave Grohl too
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
by Generzal Zod on Mar 15, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
but I like Dave Grohl
and hate the Bee Gees – I hope I don’t end up hating Whitehurst.
At least we aren't the Raiders?
by Generzal Zod on Mar 17, 2010 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that Lindsay Buckingham and Stevie Nicks from Fleetwood Mac circa '75?
Or maybe the QB and S/O from the ‘79 movie ’North Dallas Forty’?
If that’s really a picture of Whitehurst, I’m sold knowing nothing else about the guy.
I'm not sure which job I'd take if I was him
But if he’s confident he can beat Leinart I’ll bet he’ll go to Arizona. Much better supporting cast for him.
He may be able to beat him but will they let him start?
The Cards need to figure out if Leinart sucks or is their guy and this is the year to do that.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
by Generzal Zod on Mar 15, 2010 12:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah but the two jobs are very different
In Seattle, you get the sense that this is the coach’s pick, and being the coach’s pick is a good thing when you are looking for playing time. In Arizona, it is more desperation to get a safety valve should Leinart suck some more.
Decide on Seattle if it means we aren't getting Bradford or Clausen anyway.
Decide on Arizona if you playing for Seattle means we pass on Bradford or Clausen as a result.
Use you ESP!
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