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Offensive Tackle Draft Classes, NFLDraftScout and PFR

The Seahawks may or may not be in the market for an Offensive Tackle prospect early in the upcoming 2010 NFL Draft. I've been curious as anyone to trudge through various information throughout the Internet to formulate my own ideas about which prospects are worthy of any/all of our three picks in the draft's top 60 players. Ever tired of mock drafts and video clips from charismatic suit-types, I decided to go to a trusty old standby. A site that seems to yield the best set of prospect by position rankings that I really have yet to find elsewhere: NFLDraftScout.com. But, the question remains: how accurate could these rankings be?

I've attempted an mild investigation regarding how this year's offensive tackle class is ranked according to the site, as well as a look at the rankings from the past 10 drafts as it relates to draft position. The data includes NFLDraftScout's rank of each top OT (roughly top 5 or so), player name, school, round drafted and the overall pick number, along with a few brief notes.

Note: I've referred to this site for a few years now and trusted it more than most. It is a site that John sometimes links to, so I sense that many are probably familiar with it already.

If you are not familiar, I've included a link or two. One of the keys is getting by the re-direction to the CBS version of the site. Maybe it's just me, but I like the old-school version much, much better. When it switched to CBS I was crushed, but someone (John, I believe) told me a solution: just do a search for a player like this: Google: <jahvid best nfldraftscout> . Bingo! Searching for a specific player will provide links to use as a way to circumvent said re-direction.

Here is another working link: (regular view) http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/players.php?genpos=OT&draftyear=2010&sortby=tsxpos&order=ASC

and (probe view) http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/probe.php?genpos=OT&draftyear=2010&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC

To continue, one of the things I wanted to get from this is a feel for they type of player(s) we could add to our team at OT via the 2010 draft.  I wanted to see how accurate the site's rankings might be. I wanted to get a feel for where we should spend our picks in order to solve at least one OT spot and how long we could potentially wait. I followed the NFLDraftScout rankings/draft-position history information with a separate spreadsheet with data collected from PFR (Pro-Football Reference) that shows draft history from 1989-2009, again with regard to our 6, 14, and 60 selections. How much talent will be there at 60? Can we wait that long? Is it imperative that we draft an OT at 6: is the talent that much better? Mainly, I was following my own curiosity. I figured I'd share it and maybe learn some more, pick up some things from others I may not have seen. 

Here is the data:

Draft Year Offensive Tackle School Round Pick Notes  
 NDS RNK Ranked via NFLDraftScout   Drafted Overall    
1999            
#1 John Tait BYU 1 14    
#2 Matt Stinchcomb Georgia 1 18    
#3 L.J. Shelton E.Michigan 1 21    
#4 Aaron Gibson Wisconsin 1 27    
#5 Luke Petitgout ND 1 19 Should have made list:  
#6 Jon Jansen Michigan 2 37 Travis Claridge (2, 37)  
2000            
#1 Chris Samuels Alabama 1 3    
#2 Chris McIntosh Wisconsin 1 22    
#3 Marvel Smith ASU 2 38    
#4 Stocker McDougle Oklahoma 1 20    
#5 Chad Clifton Tennessee 2 44 Should have missed:  
#6 Todd Wade Mississippi 2 53 Wade went after Klemm (2,46), Coleman (2, 51)  
2001            
#1 Leonard Davis Texas 1 2 Listed as OG  
#2 Jeff Backus Michigan 1 18 Hutchinson was the #3 OL drafted (1,17)  
#3 Kenyatta Walker Florida 1 14    
#4 Matt Light Purdue 2 48    
#5 Jonas Jennings Georgia 3 95 Should have missed. add Kareem McKenzie (3,79)  
#6 Maurice Williams Michigan 2 43    
2002            
#1 Bryant McKinnie Miami 1 7    
#2 Mike Williams Texas 1 4    
#3 Mike Pearson Florida 2 40    
#4 Marc Colombo BC 1 29    
#5 Levi Jones ASU 1 10    
#6 Langston Walker Cal 2 53 Should have missed, add Chester Pitts (2,50)  
2003            
#1 Jordan Gross Utah 1 8    
#2 Kwame Harris Stanford 1 26    
#3 George Foster Georgia 1 20    
#4 Jon Stinchcomb Georgia 2 37    
#5 Wayne Hunter Hawaii 3 73    
#6 Brett Williams FSU 4 113    
2004            
#1 Robert Gallery Iowa 1 2    
#2 Shawn Andrews Arkansas 1 16    
#3 Kelly Butler Purdue 6 172 who? Should have missed.   
#4 Jacob Rogers USC 2 52 3 Guards were selected in round 2 along with Rodgers  
#5 Max Starks Florida 3 75    
#6 Nat Dorsey GT 4 115    
2005            
#1 Alex Barron FSU 1 19 Logan Mankins, Guard, 1,32  
#2 Khalif Barnes UW 2 52    
#3 Jammal Brown Oklahoma 1 13    
#4 Adam Terry Syracuse 2 64    
#5 Michael Roos E.Washington 2 41    
#6 Chris Colmer NC St. 3 91 Nick Kaczur notable, (3,100)  
2006            
#1 D'Brickashaw Ferguson Virginia 1 4    
#2 Winston Justice USC 2 39    
#3 Marcus McNeil Auburn 2 50    
#4 Eric Winston Miami 3 66    
#5 Daryn Colledge Boise St. 2 47    
2007            
#1 Joe Thomas Wisconsin 1 3    
#2 Levi Brown PSU 1 5    
#3 Joe Staley Central Michigan 1 28    
#4 Tony Ugoh Arkansas 2 42    
#5 Doug Free Norther Illinois 4 122 should have missed  
#6 Ryan Harris ND 3 70 add: Marshall Yanda (3,86)  
2008            
#1 Jake Long Michigan 1 1    
#2 Ryan Clady Boise St. 1 12    
#3 Chris Williams Vandy 1 14    
#4 Jeff Otah Pitt. 1 15    
#5 Gosder Cherilus BC 1 17    
#6 Sam Baker USC 1 21    
#7 Duane Brown VT 1 26 add: Branden Albert (1,15) rated as the #1 Guard  
2009            
#1 Jason Smith Baylor 1 6 Starter at RT as rookie for Rams  
#2 Eugene Monroe Virginia 1 8 Split with Tra Thomas at LT as rookie for Jaguars   
#3 Andre Smith Alabama 1 21 Played, did not start as rookie for Bengals  
#4 Michael Oher Ole Miss 1 23 Started at both RT and LT for Ravens as rookie  
#5 Eben Britton Arizona 2 39 16-game starter, outplayed Monroe for Jaguars  
#6 Phil Loadholt Oklahoma 2 54 Started 17 of Vikings 18 games rookie season  
             
2009* *Other Noteables (picks/players drafted last year within our range of early picks in 2010)          
#10 Sebastian Vollmer, OT Houston 2 58 Started 8 games, 5 LT, 3 RT for Patriots  
#7 William Beatty, OT Conneticut 2 60 Played RT for Giants, possible starting LT in '10  
#1 C Alex Mack, C Cal 1 21 Starting C for Browns  
#2 C Eric Wood, C Louisville 1 28 Combined with Levitre for 26 starts for Bills  
#3 C Max Unger, G/C Oregon 2 49 picked before Vollmer, Beatty, and Loadholt  
#3 OG Andy Levitre, G Oregon St. 2 51 Combined with Levitre for 26 starts for Bills  

 

Here, if you want to take a look at all the Offensive Tackles drafted since 1989, picks 1-60 (within our early round range that includes picks 6, 14, and 60). This data is from the site pro-football-reference.com . Again, I found it interesting to get a feel for the players who historically could be had at or around each of our draft slots in 2010. 

Rk Year Rnd Pick ? Pos Tm From To AP1 PB St CarAV G College/Univ
1 1997 1 1 Orlando Pace T STL 1997 2009 3 7 12 101 170 Ohio State
2 2008 1 1 Jake Long T MIA 2008 2009 0 2 2 24 32 Michigan
3 2001 1 2 Leonard Davis T ARI 2001 2009 0 3 9 59 139 Texas
4 1995 1 2 Tony Boselli T JAX 1995 2001 3 5 6 63 91 USC
5 2004 1 2 Robert Gallery T OAK 2004 2009 0 0 5 27 80 Iowa
6 2009 1 2 Jason Smith T STL 2009 2009 0 0 0 1 8 Baylor
7 1989 1 2 Tony Mandarich T GNB 1989 1998 0 0 4 27 86 Michigan State
8 2007 1 3 Joe Thomas T CLE 2007 2009 1 3 3 32 48 Wisconsin
9 2000 1 3 Chris Samuels T WAS 2000 2009 0 6 9 61 141 Alabama
10 2002 1 4 Mike D. Williams T BUF 2002 2009 0 0 4 23 59 Texas
11 2006 1 4 D'Brickashaw Ferguson T NYJ 2006 2009 0 1 4 29 64 Virginia
12 1996 1 4 Jonathan Ogden T BAL 1996 2007 4 11 12 101 177 UCLA
13 2007 1 5 Levi Brown T ARI 2007 2009 0 0 3 21 45 Penn State
14 1997 1 6 Walter Jones T SEA 1997 2008 4 9 12 96 180 Florida State
15 2009 1 6 Smith Andre T CIN 0 0 0 Alabama
16 1991 1 7 Charles McRae T TAM 1991 1996 0 0 2 18 83 Tennessee
17 1998 1 7 Kyle Turley T NOR 1998 2007 1 0 6 49 109 San Diego State
18 2002 1 7 Bryant McKinnie T MIN 2002 2009 0 1 8 54 116 Miami (FL)
19 2009 1 8 Eugene Monroe T JAX 0 0 0 Virginia
20 1993 1 8 Willie Roaf T NOR 1993 2005 3 11 12 110 189 Louisiana Tech
21 1992 1 8 Bob Whitfield T ATL 1992 2006 0 1 11 72 220 Stanford
22 1991 1 8 Antone Davis T PHI 1991 1997 0 0 6 37 97 Tennessee
23 2003 1 8 Jordan Gross T CAR 2003 2009 1 1 7 48 104 Utah
24 1990 1 9 Richmond Webb T MIA 1990 2002 2 7 12 100 184 Texas A&M
25 1993 1 9 Lincoln Kennedy T ATL 1993 2003 1 3 9 72 169 Washington
26 1992 1 10 Ray Roberts T SEA 1992 2000 0 0 8 42 127 Virginia
27 2002 1 10 Levi Jones T CIN 2002 2009 0 0 7 39 103 Arizona State
28 1996 1 10 Willie Anderson T CIN 1996 2008 3 4 12 89 195 Auburn
29 1998 1 11 Tra Thomas T PHI 1998 2009 0 3 11 67 174 Florida State
30 1992 1 11 Leon Searcy T PIT 1992 1999 0 1 7 53 126 Miami (FL)
31 1991 1 11 Pat Harlow T NWE 1991 1998 0 0 6 34 105 USC
32 2008 1 12 Ryan Clady T DEN 2008 2009 1 1 2 31 32 Boise State
33 1993 1 13 Brad Hopkins T HOU 1993 2005 0 2 13 73 194 Illinois
34 2005 1 13 Jammal Brown T NOR 2005 2008 1 2 4 38 58 Oklahoma
35 1994 1 14 Bernard Williams T PHI 1994 1994 0 0 1 7 16 Georgia
36 2008 1 14 Chris Williams T CHI 2008 2009 0 0 1 8 25 Vanderbilt
37 1999 1 14 John Tait T KAN 1999 2008 0 0 9 50 148 BYU
38 2001 1 14 Kenyatta Walker T TAM 2001 2006 0 0 5 29 75 Florida
39 1994 1 15 Wayne Gandy T RAM 1994 2008 0 0 13 67 219 Auburn
40 1989 1 15 Andy Heck T SEA 1989 2000 0 0 11 60 185 Notre Dame
41 1989 1 17 Joe Wolf T PHO 1989 1997 0 0 2 23 94 Boston College
42 2008 1 17 Gosder Cherilus T DET 2008 2009 0 0 2 11 31 Boston College
43 1993 1 18 Ernest Dye T PHO 1993 1997 0 0 2 10 50 South Carolina
44 2001 1 18 Jeff Backus T DET 2001 2009 0 0 9 47 144 Michigan
45 1999 1 19 Luke Petitgout T NYG 1999 2007 0 0 8 44 118 Notre Dame
46 2004 1 19 Vernon Carey T MIA 2004 2009 0 0 5 34 94 Miami (FL)
47 2005 1 19 Alex Barron T STL 2005 2009 0 0 5 27 76 Florida State
48 1994 1 19 Todd Steussie T MIN 1994 2007 0 2 12 75 212 California
49 1997 1 19 Tarik Glenn T IND 1997 2006 0 3 10 82 154 California
50 2008 1 19 Jeff Otah T CAR 2008 2009 0 0 2 12 25 Pittsburgh
51 2000 1 20 Stockar McDougle T DET 2000 2006 0 0 3 21 80 Oklahoma
52 2003 1 20 George Foster T DEN 2003 2008 0 0 4 30 68 Georgia
53 1999 1 21 L.J. Shelton T ARI 1999 2008 0 0 8 41 146 Eastern Michigan
54 2008 1 21 Sam Baker T ATL 2008 2009 0 0 1 11 22 USC
55 1991 1 22 Stan Thomas T CHI 1991 1994 0 0 0 7 56 Texas
56 2000 1 22 Chris McIntosh T SEA 2000 2001 0 0 1 7 24 Wisconsin
57 1989 1 23 David W. Williams T HOU 1989 1997 0 0 8 46 128 Florida
58 2009 1 23 Michael Oher T BAL 2009 2009 0 0 1 9 16 Mississippi
59 1995 1 24 Korey Stringer T MIN 1995 2000 0 1 6 45 93 Ohio State
60 1995 1 25 Billy Milner T MIA 1995 1996 0 0 1 8 29 Houston
61 2003 1 26 Kwame Harris T SFO 2003 2008 0 0 3 19 86 Stanford
62 2008 1 26 Duane Brown T HOU 2008 2009 0 0 2 17 32 Virginia Tech
63 1992 1 27 John Fina T BUF 1992 2002 0 0 9 49 155 Arizona
64 1998 1 27 Victor Riley T KAN 1998 2005 0 0 5 39 111 Auburn
65 1996 1 27 John Michels T GNB 1996 1997 0 0 1 9 24 USC
66 1999 1 27 Aaron Gibson T DET 2000 2004 0 0 2 14 38 Wisconsin
67 2007 1 28 Joe Staley T SFO 2007 2009 0 0 3 15 41 Central Michigan
68 2002 1 29 Marc Colombo T CHI 2002 2009 0 0 4 30 80 Boston College
69 1996 1 29 Jamain Stephens T PIT 1997 2001 0 0 1 7 39 North Carolina A&T
70 1995 1 29 Blake Brockermeyer T CAR 1995 2003 0 0 7 39 136 Texas
71 1997 1 30 Ross Verba T GNB 1997 2006 0 0 8 43 113 Iowa
72 1996 1 30 Andre T. Johnson T WAS 1997 1998 0 0 0 0 3 Penn State
73 1995 1 31 Trezelle Jenkins T KAN 1995 1997 0 0 0 1 9 Michigan
74 1992 2 32 Greg Skrepenak T RAI 1992 1997 0 0 4 22 68 Michigan
75 1999 2 34 Chris Terry T CAR 1999 2007 0 0 7 41 100 Georgia
76 1997 2 35 Juan Roque T DET 1997 1999 0 0 0 2 17 Arizona State
77 1998 2 36 Anthony Clement T ARI 1998 2007 0 0 6 36 128 La-Lafayette
78 2003 2 37 Jon Stinchcomb T NOR 2003 2009 0 1 4 36 74 Georgia
79 1999 2 37 Jon Jansen T WAS 1999 2009 0 0 8 50 137 Michigan
80 1997 2 37 Jerry Wunsch T TAM 1997 2004 0 0 3 25 112 Wisconsin
81 1998 2 38 Flozell Adams T DAL 1998 2009 0 5 11 75 182 Michigan State
82 2000 2 38 Marvel Smith T PIT 2000 2008 0 1 7 47 112 Arizona State
83 1989 2 38 Ralph Norwood T ATL 1989 1989 0 0 0 1 11 LSU
84 2006 2 39 Winston Justice T PHI 2007 2009 0 0 1 9 28 USC
85 1994 2 39 Marcus Spears T CHI 1996 2004 0 0 1 14 103 Northwest State (LA)
86 2009 2 39 Eben Britton T JAX 2009 2009 0 0 1 9 15 Arizona
87 2002 2 40 Mike Pearson T JAX 2002 2005 0 0 2 15 40 Florida
88 2005 2 41 Michael Roos T TEN 2005 2009 1 1 5 42 80 Eastern Washington
89 2007 2 42 Tony Ugoh T IND 2007 2009 0 0 2 16 37 Arkansas
90 2001 2 43 Maurice Williams T JAX 2001 2009 0 0 6 44 106 Michigan
91 2000 2 44 Chad Clifton T GNB 2000 2009 0 1 9 61 143 Tennessee
92 1998 2 47 Todd Weiner T SEA 1998 2008 0 0 7 46 152 Kansas State
93 2006 2 47 Daryn Colledge T GNB 2006 2009 0 0 4 30 64 Boise State
94 1997 2 48 Adam Meadows T IND 1997 2006 0 0 6 47 106 Georgia
95 2001 2 48 Matt Light T NWE 2001 2009 1 2 8 72 124 Purdue
96 1992 2 49 Troy Auzenne T CHI 1992 1996 0 0 2 17 61 California
97 2002 2 50 Chester Pitts T HOU 2002 2009 0 0 7 41 114 San Diego State
98 2006 2 50 Marcus McNeill T SDG 2006 2009 0 2 4 39 62 Auburn
99 2005 2 52 Khalif Barnes T JAX 2005 2009 0 0 4 32 66 Washington
100 2004 2 52 Jacob Rogers T DAL 2004 2004 0 0 0 0 2 USC
101 2000 2 53 Todd Wade T MIA 2000 2007 0 0 7 39 99 Mississippi
102 2002 2 53 Langston Walker T OAK 2002 2009 0 0 3 24 105 California
103 1995 2 54 Scott Gragg T NYG 1995 2005 0 0 9 56 171 Montana
104 2009 2 54 Phil Loadholt T MIN 0 0 0 Oklahoma
105 2006 2 55 Andrew Whitworth T CIN 2006 2009 0 0 4 27 58 LSU
106 1995 2 58 Barrett Brooks T PHI 1995 2005 0 0 4 26 118 Kansas State
107 2009 2 58 Sebastian Vollmer T NWE 0 0 0 Houston
108 2006 2 59 Jeremy Trueblood T TAM 2006 2009 0 0 4 23 63 Boston College
109 2008 2 59 Mike Pollak T IND 2008 2009 0 0 1 12 27 Arizona State
110 2009 2 60 William Beatty T NYG 2009 2009 0 0 0 3 16 Connecticut

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