The Fairly Boring Taylor Mays
Mays made his reputation on hype, a hit list and half-true measurables. That spawned a robust backlash. Between his rep and the hate, it's almost impossible to see Taylor Mays the player. Scouting him is difficult. It's not just that he is a safety, or that he plays a ton of deep center. Most high-definition broadcasts include enough wide-angle shots to see every player on enough plays to develop an understanding. The problem is Mays' assignment itself. Pete Carroll played him true to his position. Mays was removed from the action. He was a 6'3"/230 pound safety net arriving in time to cap a play, but rarely make a play. It then becomes difficult to separate schematic caution from lack of instincts.
USC played at Notre Dame October 17, 2009. The Irish would finish with the 25th ranked offense by S&P. USC ranked 42nd in defense. I have watched this game multiple times. I have watched Jimmy Clausen. I have watched Everson Griffen tear through Clausen's protection. I have watched Charles Brown, Golden Tate and Damian Williams. Now I will do my best to give an accurate depiction of Mays: What he did, what he could do and what might have been asked of him.
1. 1st and 10 at ND 35 Jimmy Clausen pass complete to Kyle Rudolph for 5 yards to the NDame 40.
Mays is ten yards back, outside right tackle. USC is in a 4-3. Notre Dame motions the left split back into the left flat. Snap. Mays backpedals into deep cover. The Irish set up a screen on the right. Mays flies to Rudolph after five and splits a tackle with Jurrell Casey.
2. 2nd and 5 at ND 40 John Goodman rush for 13 yards to the USC 47 for a 1ST down.
Irish set in wildcat. Goodman receives the snap and runs a read option. Griffen storms the interior and sets a short edge on the offensive right. At the mesh point, Goodman pulls it back and breaks free off right end. Mays runs from cover 1 to cap Goodman's rush after 13.
3. 1st and 10 at USC 47 Golden Tate rush for 3 yards to the USC 44.
Mays is in deep cover. He does not factor on the run.
4. 2nd and 7 at USC 44 Jimmy Clausen pass incomplete.
Deep cover. Botched screen attempt; Clausen intentionally throws it into the dirt. Mays does not factor.
5. 3rd and 7 at USC 44 Jimmy Clausen pass incomplete to Armando Allen Jr.
Mays is deep. Will Harris is underneath, so that the two are stacked about five yards apart. Mays breaks to his right. Clausen passes incomplete. Mays does not factor.
(USC drives 88 yards in two minutes for a touchdown.)
1. 1st and 10 at ND 26 Robert Hughes rush for no gain to the NDame 26.
Mays is over the left hash mark and 13 then 14 yards away from the line of scrimmage. He closes within six yards of Hughes before Hughes is tackled.
2. 2nd and 10 at ND 26 Robert Hughes rush for 7 yards to the NDame 33.
Notre Dame is a running a stretch left. Mays is again in deep cover. He sees the action and runs towards Hughes. Hughes is at the 25 when Mays is at the 34. Hughes breaks in. Mays lowers his shoulder, attempts a jarring hit, glances off and slips the tackle. Hughes continues forward for another two, but is wrapped and tackled. Mays jumps on the standing but stopped Hughes to topple the pile.
3. 3rd and 3 at ND 33 Jimmy Clausen pass complete to Robby Parris for 5 yards to the NDame 38 for a 1ST down.
Clausen scrambles from pressure and finds Parris improvising an out route. Mays, deep, does not factor.
4. 1st and 10 at ND 38 Jimmy Clausen pass incomplete.
Mays is on the left the hashmark, 15 yards from the line of scrimmage. SC blitzes off left tackle, dropping Griffen into cover in the right flat, confusing pass protection and forcing an incomplete. Mays does not factor.
5. 2nd and 10 at ND 38 Jimmy Clausen pass incomplete.
Right hash mark, 52 yard line. Mays does not factor.
6. 3rd and 10 at ND 38 Jimmy Clausen sacked by Everson Griffen for a loss of 8 yards to the NDame 30.
Right hash mark, 53 yard line. Mays does not factor.
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I love me some grit and hasty mis-tackles.
by paul2 on Mar 29, 2010 4:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Brian Russell
x3?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI
Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!
by jubelthebear on Mar 29, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Right...
I know May’s tackling was a concern, but with that sort of athleticism there’s gotta be a capacity, in which he could be used, that would really boost a defense. It seems like he’s being used in the cover-deep-demolish-anything-that-gets-too-many-yards sense. Which with his athleticism worked. Still his less than adept tackling and coverage makes him kinda one dimensional no?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI
Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!
by jubelthebear on Mar 29, 2010 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions
How the hell does Brian Russell get signed by teams
at least Mays will bring enough force to slow someone down.
At least we aren't the Raiders?
by Generzal Zod on Mar 30, 2010 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions
remember when he had 3 in the same play?
At least we aren't the Raiders?
by Generzal Zod on Mar 30, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd like of like my 14th pick to factor.
Just sayin’
I was joking about the repeated "Mays does not factor" comments.
Couldn’t John have found a drive where Mays did anything?
Pretty sure that was sarcasm via Nick.
When true to its name, safety can be one of the most boring positions to watch. It really only gets exciting if the position is being schemed, or The Offense is just dropping bombs.
Or when Eric Berry is playing.
I just see the next Roy Williams.
It’s not backlash, I have nothing against the guy or USC (I’m not a Pac 10 or west coast college grad), but i’ve seen plenty of his games, focusing on him quite a bit and he’s an athletic, out of control, head hunter. He reminds me of guys in the NBA draft who can jump out of the gym, but are a bull in a china shop in the paint and have very little impact on the game.
by Badmotostinkfinger on Mar 29, 2010 5:42 PM PDT reply actions
I've had similar thoughts.
He still has a job, which is surprising.
I hope we skip this guy (Mays). I’d rather have Earl Thomas (or Berry, of course) if we’re talking about spending a first-rounder. But, I’m positive that I’d rather the team wait and get a Chad Jones or even other player listed at FS that could play both spots. Safety is very deep this year.
This is a passing league. Even if Mays’ coverage deficiencies may be overstated, it can be said with relative certainty that coverage is not his strength. And while I understand that in certain schemes it doesn’t have to be, I think in the league today both Safety spots need coverage ability. I’d place a premium on a Safety that can cover or a Safety that can cover, tackle, and lay the wood. First round picks are premium picks to be settling for workout warrior/elite athlete that may be taken advantage of in coverage in the pros. If he had to be switched to LB we would have no place to play him without taking away from the strength of the team or causing addition by subtraction.
Big-hitting, run-stuffing Safeties are becoming obsolete. I’m still frustrated that we didn’t go after Bernard Pollard last year. Even though he is the big-hitting, run-stuffing type of player: he was also available via the waiver wire (though he does have a first-round tender from the Texans this year). I think players like that are going to be available in the 4th round where we have two picks. Take a Burnett, Jones, or other player there. No need to go Safety in round one.
I could see an Earl Thomas selection to utilize his versatility and play him at Corner and Safety – I think a pick like that would has some attractiveness, though I’d rather fill other positions first (it’s no sure thing he would even be available at 14, anyway). Drafting a first-round player that has great potential to get exploited in coverage would be a massive risk of resources.
Kenny Easley..
was “a big-hitting, run-stuffing” safety. He would not be obsolete in today’s NFL.
But Mays is no Easley. He’s also no Williams, either, though. Way, way faster than Williams could ever hope to be.
Safety is very deep this year
Thomas seems like the best of them – but I don’t see the separation between the “1st Tier” and “2nd Tier”.
We may also resign Grant – he hasn’t exactly been generating a lot of interest since being cut and I think they cut him because of his contract not because of his play.
At least we aren't the Raiders?
by Generzal Zod on Mar 30, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions

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