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Eric Berry is a joy to watch. He not only makes plays, but he leads, calls coverage audibles and most impressively, always, always seems to be in the right place ready to make the play. For his game alone, Berry is a top prospect. Combine that game with freakish athleticism, and you have a talent no team should pass on.

Virginia Tech had a formation du jour, and apart from variations and one two tight end look, played every down of the next two series out of some variant of: 2WR (one side), WR (opposite side), TE, RB, Shotgun. The formations were balanced. If a tight end was right, the running back would be left.

1. 1st and 10 at VT 21 Tyrod Taylor pass complete to Ryan Williams for a loss of 6 yards to the VTech 15.

Berry is both safety and corner. He starts shaded deep, or, precisely, 9.5 yards from the line of scrimmage and over the right slot. The right slot receiver runs a square in. Williams shades right and receives. The slot receiver is supposed to clear space for Williams - specifically, clear Berry. He doesn't. Berry reads the play right away, runs down, bubbles around his linebacker and towards the right sideline, sprints and delivers a form tackle in the open field to drop Williams for a loss of six.

2. 2nd and 16 at VT 15 Tyrod Taylor pass incomplete to Jarrett Boykin.

Berry is over left slot and seven yards from the line of scrimmage. He shades left into over cover, but does not factor further.

3. 3rd and 16 at VT 15 Tyrod Taylor pass incomplete to Marcus Davis.

Berry is again over left slot, and again well off his receiver. He starts 10 yards off, but drops to 15 before the pass. Incomplete.

(Tennessee scores a touchdown)

1. 1st and 10 at VT 40 Ryan Williams rush for 5 yards to the VTech 45.

Berry is over the right slot and puts himself into outside/over position. It's a run left though, and Berry does not factor.

2. 2nd and 5 at VT 45 Ryan Williams rush for 5 yards to the 50 yard line for a 1ST down.

Ditto. This time on a run up the middle.

3. 1st and 10 at TENN 50 Ryan Williams rush for a loss of 2 yards to the VTech 48.   

Berry plays deep center, but can hardly move before the run is sniffed out and squashed for a loss.

4. 2nd and 12 at VT 48 Tyrod Taylor pass incomplete to Dyrell Roberts.

Berry starts by bracketing the right slot, but his eyes are always darting back to the quarterback. When Taylor ducks pressure and attempts to scramble up the middle, Berry is there to cap his rush lane and force a throw.

5. 3rd and 12 at VT 48 Tyrod Taylor rush for 21 yards to the Tenn 31 out-of-bounds for a 1ST down.

Berry calls a coverage audible and the Volunteers move into what looks like man cover. Berry mans up the right slot receiver. He is initially run off right, but recovers. Taylor breaks contain and races into the open field. He rushes out of bounds left, and there's Berry, not blindly charging into the play, but running across the field to shadow, play safety should Taylor have broken even farther.

6. 1st and 10 at TENN 31 Tyrod Taylor pass incomplete to Jarrett Boykin.

I love this play. Berry is over the right slot receiver. A linebacker is playing over the right tight end. The Hokies run a combination route: The right slot receiver runs a square in, and the right tight end runs a streak. Just about five yards off the line, the two routes intersect, so that either Berry is rubbed off coverage from the slot receiver, the linebacker is isolated on Andre Smith, or both. Berry makes a split second read, and a good one. He sees the square in runs into the middle linebacker's hook zone and so the slot is effectively covered. He then negotiates the intersection and combines with the linebacker to double team Smith. Taylor passes left and overthrows Boykin. Berry does not directly factor, but he helps remove a target by reading the play and the making the best decision.

7. 2nd and 10 at TENN 31 Tyrod Taylor sacked by Dan Williams and Rico McCoy for a loss of 9 yards to the Tenn 40.

Berry starts over right slot and the right slot receiver again runs a square in. This time, Berry sinks into middle-deep cover. Taylor is sacked.

(Timeout Tech)

8. 3rd and 19 at TENN 40 Tyrod Taylor pass intercepted by Janzen Jackson at the Tenn 23, returned for 29 yards to the VTech 48 out-of-bounds.

Berry starts over right slot but separates and shades over Ryan Williams running towards the right flat. Taylor reads the coverage, sees his man running behind Janzen Jackson and delivers a good if not perfect pass. Jackson goes All-Madden, appearing in the throwing lane and stretching out to high point and intercept the pass. Game of inches.

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"...and you have a talent no team should pass on."

Interesting — are you advocating that Berry is the best choice at #6 regardless of who else might still be available?

by sev79 on Mar 30, 2010 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

I know you are not asking me...

…but it would be tough to pass up McCoy if he was on the board.

Other than that (assuming Bradford, Suh and Okung are long gone) I would take Berry.

by Hawksince77 on Mar 30, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I think McCoy @ #6 is a more pressing need than Berry #6, But with Mccoy gone and Berry still at 6, the Hawks have to take him.

by cthunder on Mar 30, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes. I don't think the choice is quite as clear-cut as some make it out to be

But I’d still prefer McCoy. If for no other reason than that I’d love to see a dominant DT-duo on the field.

But honestly, I’d be happy either way. My only real fear at picking #6 is that all of the top five (Suh, McCoy, Berry, Bradford, Okung) are gone. Then it’ll feel more like settling for someone else.

by Thomas Beekers on Mar 31, 2010 5:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

What kind of top 5 would leave BOTH Berry and McCoy on the board?

1 – Bradford
2 – Okung
3 – Suh
4 – Clausen
5 – McClain?

Ok nevermind, I just talked myself into the possibility. That would be an interesting predicament!

by cro-mag! on Mar 31, 2010 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okung would be smart for the Lions to select

But they won’t be able to help themselves with Suh (the biggest ‘sure thing’ in years).

6/14/60. Sweet.

by Nick Andron on Mar 31, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reading this is like going grocery shopping when you're hungry

I wanted Spiller now I want Berry.

At least we aren't the Raiders?

by Generzal Zod on Mar 30, 2010 6:00 PM PDT reply actions  

That's why the most awesome mocks...

…had Seattle taking Berry at 6 and Spiller at 14.

Can you imagine?

by Hawksince77 on Mar 30, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

We'd have some good highlight reels at least

I’ll cheer for the team but would like to ’05 to be more of the norm instead of one really great season.

At least we aren't the Raiders?

by Generzal Zod on Mar 30, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd be ticked

Really really ticked.

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by rlott#42 on Mar 30, 2010 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

John- maybe you have covered this before...

But where do you get all the game film you watch?

by Big E-Z on Mar 30, 2010 7:15 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Great question

I’ve been wondering this for quite some time

by Sword on Mar 31, 2010 1:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

He tapes the broadcast

And then watches it.

AFAIK John has no more access to specialized game tape than any of us do. Hence his troubles with writing up on Mays.

by Thomas Beekers on Mar 31, 2010 5:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think that this should have simply been named "EverwhEric Berry"

…or the draft could just come sooner so I don’t have to kill time looking for ways to combine two words cleverly into one.

by PRIDEin253 on Mar 30, 2010 7:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I just posted this under the "Steve Raible picks 6th overall" post

But thought it was pretty interesting, and worth sharing here when talking about drafting Eric Berry.

If you just look at his previous stint in the NFL and see some of the players he had at the safety position.

85-89 Vikings as DB coach, Joey Browner – 6x pro bowler, 3x 1st team all pro, 80’s all decade team

90-94 Jets as 3 year DC 1 year as HC, Ronnie Lott – pretty self explanatory (90’s all decade team)

95-96 49ers as DC , Tim McDonald and Merton Hanks – Both made Pro Bowls and All-Pro under Carroll.

97-99 Patriots as HC, Lawyer Milloy – Pro Bowler under Carroll.

Also, when we signed Carroll, I read a quote from Lawyer that I thought was interesting

"This is the guy who sat me down in his office and told me I was going to be the Tim McDonald in his defense," Milloy said. "At the time, in my second year, I was like, ‘Uh, what are you talking about?’ "

McDonald was a Pro Bowl safety for the San Francisco 49ers when Carroll was the team’s defensive coordinator in 1995 and 1996. Milloy was a kid just one NFL season removed from the University of Washington.

“Listening to him talk and showing me tape of what I did my rookie season, he made me believe,” Milloy said.

It kind of makes me think that it could be a good idea for Carroll to land a top prospect at safety, because I think he stands a pretty good chance of getting a lot out of the position. It would be interesting if someone knows enough about some of these players to do a comparison to see which of these older players compare more to Berry or Mays. I know Carroll inherited some of these guys, but it still might have influenced him on what he’ll be looking for out of a top prospect.

by Mind of no mind on Mar 30, 2010 9:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Does anyone think Carrol will pass on berry at 6 to take Mays at 14?

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by rlott#42 on Mar 30, 2010 10:01 PM PDT reply actions  

I'd take him as a

linebacker.

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by jubelthebear on Mar 31, 2010 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

If he is targeting a safety at 14...

…then Thomas should be the pick. I think Mayock has Thomas ranked ahead of Berry for some reason (not sure why). The sense I get is that there is not a big drop off between them.

If 6 gets used to trade up for Bradford, or to take McCoy outright (in other words, not on Berry) then taking Thomas at 14 makes sense, assuming PC has an elite safety in his sights.

by Hawksince77 on Mar 31, 2010 6:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

If McCoy

Bradford or Claussen are there at 6, how do you pass on that unless Okung is still there as well? I’d take Okung over any of those three QB’s, but if he’s gone? Take one.

What? No SOUL?

by mrcoffee1969 on Mar 31, 2010 6:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Not only would I take Bradford at 6...

…I would seriously consider trading up with the Rams for him:

1 – offer 6 and 60

2 – offer 6 and Whitehurst

3 – 6 and 14 (worst case)

PC likes Bradford (or so he says) and when asked if he was out of the QB business (this was at Bradford’s pro day) he emphatically said ‘No.’

If Bradford is in the Peyton Manning/John Elway/Montana league, then this is as close as the Seahawks can expect to get to such a talent, and they should go after him.

People say that the Rams won’t trade within the division. I don’t know about that. If they get the right offer, not sure why they wouldn’t (and they have indiciated their willingness to listen).

If the Seahawks draft Bradford, they sit him for a year, and play Hass/Whitehurst (assuming Whitehurst isn’t part of the deal).

If Bradford is what I believe he is, the move would be worth it. Does anyone remember what the Baltimore Colts received from Denver in trading for Elway? (Elway refused to play for the Colts). Or closer to home, what the Seahawks got for Dorsett? (He refused to play for the Seahawks).

The point is, obtaining a potentially great QB is worth whatever you have to pay. The question is: does Bradford truly represent HOF potential?

by Hawksince77 on Mar 31, 2010 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rams divisional non-trading isn't the biggest problem

The biggest problem is that if Bradford is all he’s said to be, they need him just as much if not more than the Seahawks do, and thus have very, very little incentive to trade down.

by Thomas Beekers on Mar 31, 2010 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Berry 6, Spiller at 14

and I’m a very very happy camper.
I actually dont want them to take either Clausen or Bradford. Other than ‘new QB fever’ I dont see either as a franchise guy.

by Strictnine on Mar 31, 2010 8:11 AM PDT reply actions  

I could totally see

this management intending to take Berry at #6 and Spiller at #14, then completely blowing their wad and just grabbing Spiller at #6 on draft day. They will get so concerned that he won’t last until #14 and all the plans are thrown out the window. This is how we end up drafting Mays at #14.

by m_b on Mar 31, 2010 9:25 AM PDT reply actions  

Berry seems like a real "Ruskell Guy"

I’d be pretty happy to get him. I think he’s the best player we might have a chance to pick. I would take McCoy over him because I think the Hawks D desperately needs a pass-rushing DT but I’d be very suprised if McCoy is still available.

Would take Suh or Bradford over Berry, but can’t imagine either being on the board at 6 unless one of them makes the papers with both “hooker” and “crack pipe” in the headline.

Okung probably won’t be there. I’m not sold on Okung anyway, but getting the top ranked OT would have to be considered a smart move. Put me on the spot though and I think I do a “Ruskell” and take the safer Berry.

I think one of Berry/Clausen will be available at 6. I think I’d rather have Berry.

by Keasley on Mar 31, 2010 10:26 AM PDT reply actions  

Why are defensive linemen so much more attractive than offensive ones?

Our biggest need is offensive line. Period. The talent we lose with Walter Jones leaving is more of a deficit than that left by Tapp and Grant combined.

The depth chart at LT is Locklear, then McIntosh(?).
At LG: Sims, (gone soon) Vallos, and Wrotto.
Vallos is the only backup for Unger at center.
RG: Spencer with some guy named Gibson backing and the classic duo of Willis/McIntosh holds down right tackle.

Our line is terrible. It not just that it lacks depth; at the very least, it lacks a starting caliber left tackle.

by BurtonOerney on Mar 31, 2010 11:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Defensive line is not more attractive by definition

Though a pass-rushing DE is more exciting for the casual fan than a really good LT.

But this draft is simply better in DTs and DEs than it is in tackles and interior linemen. It’s not a terrible draft in the latter either from what I know (I’m learning but really don’t know what to look for yet when watching offensive linemen playing).

It’s also deeper in DTs, which is why I think we should be happy if we get a top-flight LT at 6 or 14 and just settle for fortifying the D-line later.

Still there doesn’t seem to be much to be excited about in the LT field, and pretty much everyone behind Okung comes with some question marks.

by Thomas Beekers on Mar 31, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Single point failure model?

Let’s say Walter Jones is an all-pro ‘10’.

In week 1, the opposing defensive end is second-string pro-bowler, maybe an ‘8’ (out of 10). Result: Jones wins his matchup my a margin equal to or greater than the weakest link on the offensive line, and does not allow a sack.

In week 2, the opposing defensive end is league average, a mere ‘5’. Result: The same. Walter’s performance doesn’t help the team anymore than a 7/10 offensive tackle would have.

By contrast, if a defensive linemen rates a ‘10’ versus an offensive ‘8’, he might pressure the quarterback four times in a game and record one sack. Next week, matched up against a ‘5’, he could pressure the quarterback 8-10 times and record 2 or 3 sacks. You can also move a defensive lineman, whereas Walter can’t really switch from LT to RG the week that Seattle faces a dominant nose tackle.

A quality left tackle only needs to be a good pass blocker. A dominant run-blocker (like Jones) is helpful, but not vital— the offense gets to decide where and how it runs the ball, taking advantage of whatever talent and matchups appear on a week-to-week basis. And, unlike the talented pass-rushing DL, an OL’s effectiveness in run blocking depends on the guys next to him.

By contrast, if a defensive lineman is weak against the run, the single-point failure model can now favor the offense. They can run at him, moving the chains that way or else forcing him off the field on 1st & 2nd down.

That being said, I agree that the ’Hawks should draft an offensive lineman before a defensive lineman, considering our current needs. But, all other things being equal, I think this is what drives the thinking regarding line talent.

by Jason_D on Mar 31, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Guard/Center switch ability is nice.

We’ve already got Spencer, Vallos and Unger to do that but there seem to be some guys that could add depth and be gotten in later rounds. Mitch Petrus in Arkansas could drop to the fourth and Thomas Austin from Clemson would be great if we picked up Spiller. He could go in rounds 5/6.

by BurtonOerney on Mar 31, 2010 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

That final assessment about how we oughta draft

must mean you don’t put much store in Gibbs use of later-round picks. Otherwise, grabbing a top-3 or 4 O-lineman is a mis-use of resources.

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by Cheddar28 on Apr 1, 2010 7:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Walter football OL rankings:

LT: 2. Campbell, 3. Bulaga, 4. Davis, 6. Brown – all should go top 15. The seventh best OT who’s played on the left side is Saffold, who was on the all-bigTen second team and started 3 1/2 years at LT. He’s been moving up lately, I think.

RT: 1. Okung, 4. Williams – the only two top fivers. An interesting guy down the board is Calloway from Iowa at 12. He started every game, alternating between LT/RT, got all-BigTen honorable mention and is low on the board because he got arrested for drunk driving on a moped!

Seattle already has four guards not including Sims: Unger (first year), Willis (sixth,) Gibson (4th year out of Cal) and Wrotto (fourth.) We’ve got two centers: Spencer (sixth year) and Vallos (fourth year.)

We’ve only got two tackles – Locklear, who’s going into his seventh year and McIntosh – 12th year!

by BurtonOerney on Mar 31, 2010 12:28 PM PDT reply actions  

I like him.

It seems more like a responsible thing to do – putting your drunk ass on a moped – than climbing into a car. If he could be had in the fifth, that would be pretty great. He’d be depth on both the right and left side.

by BurtonOerney on Mar 31, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it me

or was Berry’s catching at the Combine atrocious?

(I know its just an overhyped workout and the tape proves his hands, but you want to put on the best show you can for the scouts!)

by rex92 on Mar 31, 2010 4:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Earl Thomas:

At his pro day on Wednesday, Thomas stepped it up again as the 20-year-old clocked a blazing 4.37 in the 40, according to Gil Brandt of NFL.com.

I really like this guy. He can play either CB or S. He could be there at 14. If we skip Berry (or he’s already gone) at 6, I’d be on board with Thomas. I think we need a guy back there who can be versatile like Berry. Thomas isn’t as special as Berry, but will come at less than a premium pick. That’s why if Clausen is there…Thomas could be had later.

by Misfit74 on Mar 31, 2010 4:28 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm a big Early fan too

I’d be very happy with an OT (or McCoy) at 6 and Early at 14

by Thomas Beekers on Mar 31, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

If he can do half of what he did at Tennessee, I'd take Berry at 6.

He can play either Safety position and can also play Corner. It’s a high-wear job, but the rewards are great. Best since Easley, and that makes him a game-changer every time he’s on the field.

As for the rest, linemen with the #14 and #60 and snag headcase Dez Bryant and headcase Legarrette Blount in the lower rounds. And, frankly, I wouldn’t mind seeing Pacman in blue, either. He can return kicks and keep valuable players off the Suicide Squad.

by bleedshawkblue on Apr 1, 2010 9:06 AM PDT reply actions  

Pacman would sign with anyone willing to over him a contract

I do worry about Seattle being a good spot for him, there are a lot of clubs where he can get himself in trouble.

At least we aren't the Raiders?

by Generzal Zod on Apr 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

No way Bryant drops that far.

I know his stock is dropping, but to the 3rd round?

by djafrot on Apr 1, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't know if you're still looking at the comments in this post John

But I was wondering, what (if anything) do you make of the guys’ at Seahawks Draft Blog relative disdain for Eric Berry?

by Brendan Scolari on Apr 3, 2010 9:55 PM PDT reply actions  

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