Saturday Free Agent Thread
by John Morgan on Mar 6, 2010 5:00 AM PST
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I finally got around to reading, or beginning to read, Ron Jaworski's analysis of Jay Cutler's 26 interceptions. As you may know, it has been widely reported that Jaworski claims all 26 interceptions were in some way Cutler's fault. Big problem: I'm through nine, and Jaworski has already excused two, and said he wasn't sure about another.
Pick 2: It was a really good call, but Jolly makes a hell of a defensive play. I can't lay this on (Cutler).
Pick 6: I hate first down turnovers. You don't give yourself a chance. What I don't know here, is if this was a dig or a turn. I can't put it on anyone, because I don't know what the route was. But regardless of what it is, he's throwing into double coverage. These safeties are reading Jay, and he's kind of staring it down.
Pick 9: 4th and 5. These, you just have to make a play. I got no problem with it. You just have to hope your guy makes a great catch.
I'm going to grab some pudding and coffee before I finish this up, but what I really want to know is: How has this been so widely misreported? Has everyone linked to it, but no one actually read it?
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Jaworski: Good play call. Good pocket. Receiver fell down. Not on (Cutler). This is how you should throw the football. It’s a freaking laser. It was perfect.
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Jaworski: It’s a bad route (by Davis), No. 1. He broke the timing of the route. You say good job by the defense for re-routing. But there was interference. It wasn’t called. But I believe he was going to the right guy on this throw.
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Jaworski: I got no problem with where he’s going here. Right read. E.J. Henderson (who tips the ball) makes a hell of a play.
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Jaworski: He tipped it. Jarrett Johnson makes a hell of a play. It’s a 7-0 game. You’ve got three points. These are a killer.
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Jaworski: It’s hard to lay blame. You’re trying to stick something down the field. This is perceived pressure. There’s no reason to run. Protection was good.
(In a 31-7 game in the 4th quarter)
So 8? And we also have pick 5 from my own analysis.
1-10-SEA 17 (5:35) 6-J.Cutler pass short right intended for 13-J.Knox INTERCEPTED by 57-D.Hawthorne [55-D.Tapp] at SEA 12. 57-D.Hawthorne to SEA 15 for 3 yards (13-J.Knox).
Cole was playing nose tackle and to his left were Brandon Mebane and Lawrence Jackson. Tapp was well outside Orlando Pace’s left shoulder – on an island. Seattle used its size and Mebane’s pass rushing ability to create a 4-3/3-4 hybrid look. The look worked to perfection. The Bears line struggled to control Seattle’s powerful left-side line and that allowed Tapp to overmatch Pace one-on-one. He hit Jay Cutler as he threw. The soft lob was tipped by Johnny Knox before being intercepted by David Hawthorne.
Did he blow coverage to get the pick?
Or did he get the pick because he blew coverage? One is inept, the other might be instinct.
He was in position for the pick
because he was out position to defend the pass. The interception was dumb luck.
This is where I would enjoy your idea of breaking down every play in the NFL
Until you got a system you could just do the big plays, because I am curious to know how many big plays are predicated on error (by either team). I would guess a lot.
It looked like he just blew coverage.
The instinct part was that he kept running anyway and the ball just ended up where he was at.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Mar 6, 2010 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
The Marshall thing makes me wonder
Are they just curious as to what deal they can work out, or are they not sold on any of the talent available at #6 so they are looking for other options?
On paper, and film, I love Marshall, but his off field shenanigans are worriesome. We don’t need to the team to turn into a sideshow.
Seattle is not likely to give up the #6 pick for Marshall
That only happens if Seattle signs Marshall to an offer sheet. In reality, that rarely happens. Seattle will talk to Marshall, decide if they can bang out a contract and then begin trade negotiations with Denver.
If he didn't have a history of being a problem child
I wouldn’t be opposed to giving up #6 for him. He is a big time playmaker.
Isn't there something to be said for getting a sure thing?
He’s worth, contract wise, the #6 pick. There is just a lot less uncertainty as to his value though. Injury and the occasional assault charge are the biggest issues.
There is so much more uncertainty with anybody we would draft. Plus he is only about 3 years older than the draft talent. He has another 5-6 years to play through his prime.
There is no sure thing
and much of what makes a #6 pick risky, namely injury, is just as much a factor with Marshall. He might be less risky, might, but I’d much rather Seattle invested that pick into any one of the six players that could potentially fall to the sixth pick.
We should also consider that for all his yardage
Targets to Marshall have never been very valuable, over multiple seasons and receiving for multiple quarterbacks. He’s very good, but he’s not Larry Fitzgerald.
Marshall has 17 days till his birthday.
Are you trying to tell me he can’t get 196 receptions, 3048 yards, and 34 TDs (the numbers it would take to match Fitz) in the next two and a half weeks? Surely you don’t know the Brandon Marshall that Pete Carroll knows.
by SeaTownBlueDevil on Mar 6, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Fitz has played two more seasons than Marshall.
Marshall has played 31 less games.
And, the numbers aren’t hugely different:
Fitz: 92games, 523rec, 7067yards, 59tds = 5.68rec/gm, 75.81yards/gm, 0.64tds/gm.
Marshall: 61games, 327rec, 4019yards, 25tds = 5.36rec/gm, 65.88ypg, 0.4td/gm.
Playing at a younger age is an achievement.
One does not get to discount that. And whatever their superficial stats, Fitzgerald is much better and much more valuable.
I have to agree.
Though he’s still a potential top-ten wideout, and we don’t have one, so while we’d much prefer Fitzgerald, that’s not happening.
I’m not sure why his yardage doesn’t equal wins, but he sure doesn’t win games for people at this point.
Potential?
In my book, he is CLEARLY in the Top 10, maybe even the Top 5. Obviously, Fitz is #1 and Andre Johnson is #2, and after that there is a group of young-ish WRs that could be ranked in some order:
Brandon Marshall
DeSean Jackson
Vincent Jackson
Calvin Johnson
Roddy White
Wes Welker
Then you have guys like Rany Moss, Reggie Wayne and Anquan Boldin; excellent receivers who might be better than the aforementioned group right now, but are also 30 or above.
Welker has the best stats over the past 3 seasons, and Megatron might have the most potential, but I could put Marshall at #3, even considering both Jackson’s big seasons last year.
For me...
Marshall is a “potential” top-10 receiver because of bone-head injuries and suspensions. If a player can’t play at a high level for 16 games in most seasons,or at least 14 or 15, he’s not elite, because your team will be hurting with him out. Unreliable. So, his potential is there, if he can play a whole season.
I guess even if he does the stupid stuff, he can be top-10, but barely. As in, #10, so in that, I guess I’m spinning my wheels; he’s close.
Otherwise, Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson are obviously better options because you can rely on them. I’d say those two guys are the top 2 in the league.
I think I’d take every guy on your list over Marshall IF Marshall is going to sulk and slip on McDonald’s bags and put his elbow through an entertainment centers and refuse to play and kick balls away from ball boys. Welker plays a different wideout position, so I’m not including him here, though I’d love someone that tough to be our slot machine. I’d also put Steve Smith (Carolina) on the list as well, though obviously he’s a little older than most of these mentions.
IF Marshall plays to his potential, I’d say he’s right behind Fitz and A. Johnson, similar to C. Johnson and some of the other guys on your list. Otherwise, he’s at the bottom of the top 10, and if I’m in a bad mood, I’m calling him #11.
Your current mood clearly is a great tool to use when evaluating players.
by BrettJMiller on Mar 6, 2010 11:45 PM PST up reply actions
There have been worse rubrics in use for evaluating talent.
Though “Millen’s moods” is about the only one I can come up with.
So multiplied out:
166, 2042, 12 TDs. 30 less receptions if projected over the same number of games, 1000 less yards, and 22 less TDs. Two seasons can mean a lot to a player as young as Marshall is in his career.
Fitz is Fitz, but Marshall is in the conversation.
Holmgren interested in Wallace?
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=503
Interested in trading Wallace for a mid-round pick? Stupid question if you ask me…..
Here's a terrible thought: Seattle surrounds Hasselbeck with weapons
he has a minor bounce back season in 2010, and that’s enough to convince Carroll into re-signing him.
And however much he proves himself, injuries are likely to create an opening for another starter
and if that’s Canfield, great, I think he has decent potential. If it’s Seneca, screw that.
So
It’s much less risky and has one of the highest rates of payoff in the casino?
Thats the point
Believing Hass is productive in the next year or so is Blackjack (reasonably good odds). If we don’t plan for 4-5 years from now with the belief that he will still be productive, like Warner, would be lottery odds.
Hasselbeck hasn't been productive in two years.
He hasn’t been able to stay healthy in two years. Kurt Warner is an anomaly, an absolute outlier. Banking on him as the starting quarterback for the future is irresponsible. The Hawks should have had a young talent prepared and ready for this situation and failed to do so. That’s on Ruskell. This is Carrol’s team now, and his legacy depends on his ability to set the team to win long term and not just continue stuffing the future for a moonshot.
OK that's what I figured
Just wanted to confirm we had the same view
Hey me too.
Rollin the dice is fun — and you can play for hours without losing much money if you bet fairly prudently.
While it's possible, I don't think it's Carroll's M.O.
To me, Carroll is a guy who has always enjoyed stocking QB talent (granted, the fact that its USC makes it nearly impossible not to have 2-3 quality arms in the fold at any given time). It really seems like he’s always open for a QB competition.
Even with weapons around him, I don't see how Hass can have a Warner-esque bounce back season.
Even when Warner stunk it up with the Giants, he was a fearless pocket passer. Hasselbeck has zero composure in the pocket now and I don’t think that’s something you can get back.
Warner could still throw it further than 5 yards.
Matt could not and cannot. I’d be surprised if he could complete a successful pitch-play at this point.
Everytime I thought Matt's arm was done last year, he'd flash decent arm strength.
He’s not willing to stand tall in the pocket anymore, and when that happens, it results in pathetic dink and dunking followed by horrible INT’s on 3rd and long.
Who else
is going to run the “run out of bounds instead of throwing the ball away play” for the Browns?
Yeah
I’m tired of banging it there for the latest rumors. I need some news.
I'm not embarrased to say
I don’t know who that is.
Oh crap no. He was a pylon of a DB whether his name was Will Peterson or Will James.
I pass……and beat him deep for the touchdown to Marshall.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
I'm always a big fan of signing old players at speed dependent positions.
by John Morgan on Mar 6, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
You think we can lure Darrell Green out of retirement?
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
by SSreporters on Mar 6, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
See? It's a foolproof plan.
And the best part? Special teams demon.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
Ben Watson might be an interesting signing
The article mentions Ben Watson coming in on Monday. Pete Carroll consistently played multiple tight ends at USC. He ran lots of two-TE sets, and usually had a blocker and a pass catcher.
Watson is still a good blocker iirc.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I just hope IF Seattle trades to get Marshall
Carlson isn’t involved in any way as some sort of Pete Carroll USC/Notre Dame hatred.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
I'd be surprised if Carroll had any issues with white Jesus
We really only have the one decent TE. I just think PC wants an additional starter quality guy, which we really need if we’re talking about running the ball the Alex Gibbs way.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I'm a big fan of the two TE system
I’m hoping that’s what’s going to happen and not giving up a TE.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
Given that they had an excellent blocking TE (Graham)
And an excellent receiving TE (Scheffler), I’m not sure what to make of it.
Ah right
Um, I have no idea on Havili. I’m confused at to what his remaining eligibility is.
Looks like he started in 2006 but got an injury red shirt from the NCAA, so I guess he has 1 year left. He’s still one of the top offensive weapons on that team but I don’t know what he has left to prove in terms of ability.
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I'm pretty sure he already has his degree
What’s the deadline on the supplemental draft? I haven’t heard much about Havili in awhile.
I’m sure he’ll be in demand whenever he decides to go.
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Don't see any reason they would want to trade Carlson
Signing old-ass Ben Watson wouldn’t make him expendable.
by lemonverbena on Mar 6, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
29 is the new 60.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
Hey, I just read this on WalterFootball.com
http://www.walterfootball.com/freeagents2010recap.php
That bit about the Lions signing a pretty good DT makes Okung going to them seem more likely. Which means that the Top 5 picks might get shaken up a little. I swear, if we got Clausen at #6, Brown (or the best LT on our board, I’m not really partial to anyone) at #14 and Brandon Marshall for #40 and our 4th, I would probably wet myself with excitement. That would be the best offseason ever.
Michael Oher.
People said things about him at this point last year.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Mar 6, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
At this point last year?
Yes, there was. Many people did, as a matter of fact. He was projected to go number 1 overall
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Mar 6, 2010 6:31 PM PST up reply actions
Depends on who needs what...
The draft could easily be: Bradford (StL) Okung (DET) Suh (TB) Clausen (WAS) Berry (KAS) and McCoy (SEA). I don’t think that’s too far-fetched, unless you can see a problem there.
Detroit just became less likely to take a DT with their trade for Corey Williams of the Browns. Yeah, it could certainly still happen, and we won’t know until the draft what will go down.
So, there are three potential landing spots for the DT’s before they get to Seattle: St. Louis, Detroit and Tampa Bay. I think TB is the only one that is a lock to take a DT if one is available, so we’re left with needing St. Louis and Detroit passing on McCoy and Suh. And the way these teams draft, it really could happen. Of course, it could go a lot of other ways, too. The top six should be fun to watch.
DET IS NOT TAKING AN OT
What is the matter with you people?
/Faking outrage, but it’s true nonetheless
I've been saying the same thing...
So maybe some form of madness as overtaken me. I blame Chuck Norris.
From the Wilson Wire (more of nothing, maybe with exception of the last line):
The Seattle Seahawks are hosting Denver Broncos wide receiver Brandon Marshall today. What the Seahawks aren’t doing is signing the restricted free agent to an offer sheet immediately, according to ESPN. THe Seahawks don’t want to give up the sixth pick of the draft as compensation to the Broncos, but would probably be willing to do so for something less. So, the process for Marshall is expected to take some time. At this point, though, the interest between the Seahawks and the Pro Bowl wide receiver is mutual.
Shefter just twittered
that the Seahawks are hosting visits with former Patriots TE Chris Baker and Saints RB Mike Bell next week.
He at least knows how to "Kiss the Baby"
by lemonverbena on Mar 6, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions
Bell was tendered at the lowest compensation, so Saints can match an offer but would not receive anything if they don't match
Baker was released outright and is unrestricted.
by lemonverbena on Mar 6, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
Is Hawthorne good trade bait?
Or would it be too foolish to trade him to anyone?
Lord, forgive me for my transgressions, as well as rosterbation.
It's just me, but I'd rather not speculate on who's doing steroids and who isn't.
by BrianL on Mar 6, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Nick Reed was breast fed with cortizone.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
My life would be complete if Brian Russell was found to be on steroids.
by SeaTownBlueDevil on Mar 6, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Wouldnt surprise me at all
If a guy like Jeremy Giambi can be on steroids and still be that bad, then anyone is fair game.
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What does every one think about this for Brandon Marshall.
Trading our 6th overall to Denver for Brandon Marshall and their 10th overall? Too much, too little?
Lord, forgive me for my transgressions, as well as rosterbation.
I mean 11th overall.
Lord, forgive me for my transgressions, as well as rosterbation.
by Blake Jensen on Mar 6, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Doesn't make sense for Denver
An elite receiver—even an injury-prone problem child like Marshall—is worth more than moving up 5 spots in the draft.
by lemonverbena on Mar 6, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
What about adding a 4th or something?
Lord, forgive me for my transgressions, as well as rosterbation.
by Blake Jensen on Mar 6, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
The obvious
That bit about hating first down turnovers is a riot. It doesn’t even give you a chance. No kidding. Neither do turnovers on second, third, or fourth downs. That’s why turnovers are, well, bad. You give up a scoring opportunity and provide a scoring opportunity to the opponent.
Word FROM Sando's Facebook
Brandon Marshall just landed at the VMAC.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI
Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!
And has already been fined for being 20 minutes late.
by lemonverbena on Mar 6, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Ha! The Bleacher Report dude's post got deleted.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
I wrote a couple articles at Bleacher Report a while ago...
I lost my grasp of the English language in the process. I also forgot reasoning.
Lord, forgive me for my transgressions, as well as rosterbation.
I think the Seahawks articles at BR are the worst.
I stopped going there.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
I agree
every article there is the worst.
Lord, forgive me for my transgressions, as well as rosterbation.
you apparently
haven’t read the NY Times or the Seattle Times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI
Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!
well,
Just go through the archives here. It’s still better than the Post. But the Post is just barely better than being raped by a syphillitic bear…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI
Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!
by jubelthebear on Mar 6, 2010 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
The Niners are in on David Carr.
http://www.sacbee.com/2010/03/06/2586843/49ers-visit-with-carr-bad-news.html#mi_rss=49ers
I wouldn’t be totally shocked if he was better than Smith in 2010.
I think Carr is nothing more than a great backup at this point...
…but the kid showed promise, and I’ve always routed for him. Good luck, senor Carr. The O-Line couldn’t be worse than what you had in Houston all those many years ago…
Left without signing anything.
Can’t really blame him.
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by Wayward Llama on Mar 6, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions
Sando's Latest Article on Marshall
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/15148/broncos-marshall-visiting-seahawks
I think it’s reassuring for our prospects of losing a first round pick to Denver. I would compare the situation more to Boldin than Cromartie, though.
Lord, forgive me for my transgressions, as well as rosterbation.
Isn't that the same situation with Boldin?
But, I do agree though, Cromartie was a talented player that wore out his welcome.
Lord, forgive me for my transgressions, as well as rosterbation.
So, not to like anything about AZ's organization or the Stealers
But I would love for Wiz to be our HC.
Very true
They will probably miss Dansby the most out of everyone that left (other than Kurt)
Lord, forgive me for my transgressions, as well as rosterbation.
I'm interested to see how he performs without such a strong supporting cast
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by Wayward Llama on Mar 6, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
Hmm... the idea of a conditional pick interests me.
Especially since Matt is pretty much toast. If the pick is based on Marshall’s 2010 production in Seattle, we’re golden.
Sando referred to Russell as a 'fan favorite'
Sando is trolling us.
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/15128/nfc-west-teams-need-safety-help
And by him I mean Russell.
Fun having conversations with myself. Maybe if we had news, or Carroll gave his damn watch up, we’d have something to talk about.
Heard anything on the Seahawks interest in...
Panthers UFA DE Tyler Brayton?
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I actually like mike bell,
not as the #1 back, but he runs really hard and i’d pair him up with forsett.
Bell+Forsett is not a RB solution.
I would hate staying stagnant at the position. Plus, Bell can’t stay healthy anymore. We need a rookie w/ fresh legs. Forsett should be a compliment/backup.
I agree.
In order to get this offense going, we HAVE to have a running game, something absent since 2005. If we can’t run, we can’t pass. If we can’t do either, we’re screwed.
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by Wayward Llama on Mar 6, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions
Forsett deserves more touches...
4th in nfl in yards per carry- 5.4
15th in nfl in yards after catch- 372- and he only had 41 receptions.
-wes welker had 123 receptions and 585 YAC.
…all with a shitty o-line and no deep threat.
But I'm OK with Forsett+Rookie+Bell.
We could jettison J.Jones and Rankins, and I’d be pretty happy with our new backfield.
kerry rhodes to arizona for future 4th and 7th round picks
just saw it on the nfl network
I wonder which 4th?
I know it’s 2010 4th and 2011 7th, but now that Arizona has Baltimore’s 4th, I wonder which one it is? Not that it matters much…they’re right next to each other.
Why not TO ?
Still a great WR and cheap now
He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is
Does it seem strange that Seattle...
…isn’t looking at safeties or CBs in FA?
WR – check
OL – check
RB – check
DL – check
But no QBs (not that I can think of any worth considering) but no secondary players.
Hmmmm.
secondary
It’s not the Seahawks “glaring weakness” per say, but it’s a need.
Schneider has said he prefers big corners (please don’t make me cite that) and safety & corner are positions the Squawks can DEFINITELY upgrade in, so maybe they’re just playing it close to their chest… or however the idiom goes… I dunno, I been drinkin…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI
Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!
If Seattle gives up the #6
How likely would it be that:
A.) Denver drafts Clausen and I cry for hours.
B.) The Seahawks consider Spiller at #14.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
I just feel like Seattle should find any other way to get Marshall
Without giving up the #6. I think it’s too much to relinquish.
Giving up the #6 is likely giving up on Clausen, Bradford, and Berry.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
Well, as has been said. Marshall wants out. Denver doesn't really want him back.
Denver doesn’t really have leverage. It’s a lot more logical that Seattle would work out a trade for Marshall, rather than giving up the #6 overall pick. .
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Mar 6, 2010 6:37 PM PST up reply actions
I think they're ok with giving big talents with character problems a try if they're cheap (Moss)...
…but not if they’re expensive.
Don't worry
Ain’t gonna happen. Marshall might happen, but losing the 6 for him won’t.
I guess we can't totally rule out epic incompetence in the new front office
But giving up #6 would be an obvious epic failure that should have all Seahawks fans calling for blood. Seattle is not in the strongest of trading positions after Burleson walked, but neither is Denver in all that great a position to get maximum value for Marshall. I hope there’s at least one underling with his head on straight who can get Carroll’s ear should he be bent on giving up #6.
With the first round tender, Denver has obligated itself to giving up Marshall in exchange for #32 and burdening another team with a contract that they think is too rich for him. The Saints aren’t really in the market for a WR, but they could write Marshall an offer, and if it was too rich for Denver, they’d have to accept giving him away for #32 and not a penny more. Denver should similarly realize that getting anything better than a pick in the 20s, where the most likely WR suitors lie this year, is a real coup for them.
If both sides are rational, they should likely realize that the “buy it now” price Denver set would be something comparable to #14 for Marshall PLUS something else from Denver (3rd rounder? I think even their 2nd rounder should be on the table), or else #40 + something else from Seattle, lower pick(s) and/or player(s).
I was panicked earlier when preliminary reports sounded like Seattle had already given up #6 at the drop of a hat, but now, it sounds like things are going in a direction they should. Hell, given McDaniels’s history of incompetence w.r.t. personnel decisions, Seattle might pull off the steal of the century and continue what’s becoming its annual tradition of fleecing Denver.
by SeahawksFanInNY on Mar 6, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
Also thank Dennis Haysbert.
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