Schefter: Seahawks Trade Seneca Wallace to Cleveland Browns
No word yet on compensation, but here's a free form look at what I consider an acceptable price for Seneca Wallace:
Jerome Harrison: Worked with Ahman Green, right?
Shaun Rogers: Malcontent.
Any draft pick: Draft picks do not sack themselves.
Brady Quinn: Myoplex party over here.
Brian Robiskie: Safe.
Pat Murray: Homecoming.
Almost anything else.
It was fun Seneca, but your chances of developing have ended and Seattle needs a starter capable quarterback and as many roster spots as possible to add that.
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I feel like Holmgren is mistaken if he thinks Seneca is going to turn into his new Hasselbeck.
by SeaTownBlueDevil on Mar 8, 2010 5:55 PM PST reply actions
These last 2 seasons SW outperformed Matt
Matt and SW are not great, but in the upper half of all the QBs that took snaps in the NFL.
BUF’s QB Trent Edwards (6-4/231) has been playing behind a pass-pro OL like the ‘09 Hawks (bad, really bad), got a high ankle sprain that put him on IR. He’s also become shell-shocked (like CLE’s Charlie Frye) last season and only threw between the hash marks and to his checkdowns. Edwards has adequate arm strength, but is too afraid to use it. Backup Ryan Fitzpatrick has a noodle-arm which didn’t do it in Ralph Wilson Stadium winds, and he also had an ankle injury. So BUF’s down to Brian Brohm, who was way worse than either Ryan or Trent. BUF needs a QB worse than the Hawks, much worse. They really need a strong-armed QB, but maybe a smart one would do. They also need alotta other stuff, but QB is Chan Gailey’s biggest off-season need – and he’s not having any luck. Especially in getting a veteran QB. If Trent Edwards is their starting ’10 QB, they expect to have a 7- (or fewer) win season. BUF picks #9.
How about trading Matt for Trent plus their 1st (or 2nd & 3rd) rounders? Hawks write off next season, either trade the #6 to DEN for B.Marshall, or get Clausen or Bradford, or Gerald McCoy and use the #9 on Dez Bryant. Last season Trent was exceptionally awful, but the season before he was really good – way better than any of the Hawks current QBs.
The only thing worse than their QB situation is there o-line connection
Chan Gailey wants to run the ball and he doesn’t have an offensive line. I think Edwards would be okay in this system. What they need is people to open up holes.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
by Generzal Zod on Mar 8, 2010 11:17 PM PST up reply actions
I have to believe that with no Cleveland player named, that the compensation is a draft pick.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
PFT says it's a 7th round pick in 2011
and can be improved to a 6th rounder based on starts. meh.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/10/browns-didnt-give-up-much-for-wallace/
Thanks for the great catch in the NFC Championship, Seneca
Everything else was fairly to really shitty.
by lemonverbena on Mar 8, 2010 5:57 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
That's nice we were able to trade Seneca
Wait, we got something in return?? That’s even better!
Huh. I wonder if this means we'll draft someone.
Only Hass and Teel left on the roster.
Don't say that please
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
by Generzal Zod on Mar 9, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Enter the HASSEL-CAT!
All The Way, AIRBORNE!!!
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Mar 8, 2010 6:18 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Whoa there.

Hassel-Cat wants none of it.
by sev79 on Mar 8, 2010 6:41 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
This picture could also represent...
- Housh asking for the ball
- Our O-line zone-blocking its way to another sack
- Ben Roethlisberger on a date.
by sev79 on Mar 8, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions 12 recs
Ben Roethlisberger on a date.
LOL!
What? No SOUL?
by mrcoffee1969 on Mar 9, 2010 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
Hasseltoss!

The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
This clip makes me laugh and die a little on the inside.
At the same time, fml.
All The Way, AIRBORNE!!!
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Mar 9, 2010 4:38 AM PST via mobile up reply actions
Thanks for the favor, Holmgren!
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
John, a hypothetical scenario: what if the Seahawks don't draft a QB at in in the 2010 draft
I know you’re against this, but if this were to happen, would you tolerate the signing of a Shaun Hill or (perhaps) a Derek Anderson or any other halfway-decent QB that could be available, to act as a quasi-“bridge” between Hasselbeck and the next QB we get around to drafting?
Let’s say we take a QB in the 1st round of the 2011 draft, and you knew this would happen right now….how would you feel about Hasselbeck starting this season, and then having this other QB already in place until The Franchise QB is ready? I know getting Charlie Frye a few years ago didn’t pan out at all, but maybe this would have better results. Perhaps.
If there was anyone I thought had potential, like Brodie Croyle or Jason Campbell, maybe
but I don’t think Anderson or Hill have much to offer, and then, who’s left, John David Booty?
Hasselbeck II.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
Okay, then, what should the Seahawks do in that dire scenario?
Drinking is not an answer. Well…..it is for us. But not the Seahawks.
If that happens then you probably just start Hasselbeck.
Maybe make a trade for Troy Smith or hell…let Teel play.
But I'd be in total shock if Seattle doesn't draft a QB at some point.
Maybe it won’t be in the first two rounds, but they almost have to draft one at some point.
Troy Smith is basically Seneca with an arm.
Decision making decent, never take stupid risks, but can throw the ball more than 10 yards, I can handle that for a year.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
Seneca takes a ton of stupid risks.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
Whoever said 'Delhomme' should be flogged repeatedly until the statement is retracted...
…an that name is no longer in his vocabulary.
Any QB on our roster can make a run at interception records all by themselves.
Wallace was Delhomme with legs
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
by Generzal Zod on Mar 9, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Schefter reporting that it is an undisclosed 2011 pick
by seattle_since_81 on Mar 8, 2010 6:31 PM PST reply actions
Seneca Wallace's career in a nutshell
Throwing a floating 1 yard pass on 4th and 2 with the game on the line.

Thanks for your years of service. I guess.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
My video quality sucks. I need a better computer.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
That was the most infuriating defeat of the season.
Because Seattle should’ve blown Chicago out.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
The only game I made it to this year
and I was soooooooooooo pissed afterward. That was the end of my patience with Seneca. He simply can’t make plays when called on.
You're lucky
I went to every one but the Detroit game. The worst was being mocked by a fan of the two win Buccaneer’s. Three wins after he was done. Fuck you buddy!
Don't worry.
Their home stadium is generally filled with white trash.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett
by Wayward Llama on Mar 9, 2010 3:29 AM PST up reply actions
Same.
I enjoyed myself though. After the first two quarters anyway. And after the dick who was sitting next to me left.
Now with more lemon bars!
Yeah, I had fun.
My girlfriend got a John Carlson signature, which was cool. But I’ve never seen a bunch of fans looking smugger after a loss than those Lion’s fans.
"We're not Detroit"
Oh that made me chuckle.
by seattle_since_81 on Mar 9, 2010 12:39 AM PST up reply actions
The season went to hell after that
You could just see the life get sucked out of the stadium and the look of defeat on their faces as they left the field. The 49ers looked good the first few weeks of the season and Matt got hurt so that loss was understandable but to play as hard as they did against Chicago and lose at the very end. That kicked off a bad run with a fluke of an ass kicking against Jacksonville and ended with the Arizona beat down a week later.
Who knows maybe that is my perspective because it was the only game I got to go to this year.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
Jacksonville
Seriously, how did that happen? How? It makes no sense whatsoever. 28-0 over the Rams can be a false indicator of success, but 41-0 over the Jags? They almost made the playoffs! What???
The matchup.
Their star receiver in a time out.
Frye having a good day.
Hasselbeck having a good day.
Home game.
I think JM once referred to it as the perfect storm.
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
That's what I meant by the matchup lol
in addition to our run D rendering MJD ineffective.
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
I also like this tweet from Schefter.
No truth to the rumor that the Seahawks traded #15, Seneca Wallace, to free it up for WR Brandon Marshall.
Who the heck started that rumor?
If only Madden ratings were reality for that guy
He was so fast on that game
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
by Generzal Zod on Mar 9, 2010 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
Anybody have an example of what kind of "conditions" are common with these kinds of trades involving conditional picks?
I’m imagining something like, he has to be on the roster all season, or something, but I have no idea and a google search netted nothing enlightening.
If Quinn sucks next year this could turn out to be a good pick
I am a fan of Holmgren but now I have a reason to vote against him.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
I liked Seneca but I'm glad we're moving on
Shoulda been a no brainier once it became clear he was never going to be a starter. It really blocks the development of any other QB on the roster. Not that we’ve had many of those. Now, the question of who becomes the starter after Hasselbeck begins.
In the willingness to get rid of him they have to have some sort of plan.
You were going to say Tyrese, but you don't like black QBs.
Bigot!
by DJ C-Raig on Mar 8, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
The R & B singer?
He’s pretty ripped, might be worth a shot.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
If by the grace of God
we somehow ended up with Jerome Harrison i would shit myself in an explosion of jubilation. I watched him through his college days and the kid is absolutely sick. 16 Straight hundred yard games and 1900 his senior year? All ya gotta say is GO COUGS!
by Fightfightfight on Mar 8, 2010 7:00 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Well, at least this says Carroll is probably drafting a QB this draft.
No idea what round, but 2 QBs is obviously not enough. If it really is a pick next year, it may mean they are stocking up a little on draft choices and planning on building through the draft. Which, you know, suggests they arn’t in win now mode. But that’s a mighty large amount of speculation with very little evidence to back it up.
Now with more lemon bars!
Not with Hasselback getting hurt in week 5
we’ll need someone else.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
This makes me hopeful that they are thinking building long term
Building to win now makes us top out at 9-7 maybe we get lucky with a 10-6.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
Anybody know anything about Teel? Could he play in a pinch?
Last season SW took 225 snaps, 132 dropbacks, ran 4 times, threw 119 times, 77 completions for a 64.7 C% (=Aaron Rodgers), 1 spiked ball, 4 batted balls, 683 yds, 5.7 yds/att, 4 TDs, 2 ints, sacked 9 times (twice running outta bounds behind the LOS), and 6 of his passes were dropped by receivers. He had an 84.1 NFL passer rating. Better than Matt did, and better than the average NFL passer. Under Holmgren’s crew SW may continue to improve.
5.7 yds/attempt is near bottom of the league terrible
I’m beginning to thing yards per attempt is the quickest and easiest (albeit dirty) way to determine a quarterbacks worth to a team.
Or at least weed out the dink and dunkers. Yes, congratulations, you’ve completed ten passes in a row. To the fullback. For minus 1 yard. And hey, no interceptions!
by B.B.Finnegan on Mar 8, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions
Ya, but it's what you expect in the WCO
Especially without an OL.
Time to buy a Kerney Jersey
Bought a B-Russ last off-season . . .
Just bought a “SeneCat” (yeah it was customized) one a week ago . . .
Should a throw in the puke green Hasselbeck jersey on sale at checkout?
Seriously though – most favorite memory of Seneca Wallace: At friend’s house watching Chicago game, friend says, “Man, you know more about your backup quarterback than I know about Jim McMahon.” Friend is Bears fan and regularly wears white head bands whilst watching football.
Shanghai Kelly's on Polk St. in San Francisco is the worst bar on the face of the earth (at least on Sunday mornings).
You're a Cougars fan??????
haha, just kidding :)
A joke too deep
I didn’t actually buy a B-Russ Jersey. Irony of that action would be beyond obtainable; so epic, Chuck Norris would shave.
Shanghai Kelly's on Polk St. in San Francisco is the worst bar on the face of the earth (at least on Sunday mornings).
Chuck Norris does shave.
His chest.
Traitor to real men everywhere..
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
"I never met a llama I didn't like." - TJ Duckett
by Wayward Llama on Mar 9, 2010 3:31 AM PST up reply actions
At least if it came down to a real life fight between a Husky, a domesticated house dog, and a Cougar, a fucking angry wild beast, we know the Cougs would win that one.
Now if only our athletes would become good at athletics.
I'm pretty sure the Cougs would win that one!
So yeah, it counts!
by BrettJMiller on Mar 9, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
I hope so
For the sake of football in the state it would be nice if UW and WSU were both good. UW will be with Sark, WSU may not be with Wulff
Isn't it funny that the Cougs have a coach named Wulff, which is basically an overgrown husky?
Or am I the only one who doesn’t think that’s too much of a stretch to be funny?
Totally just realized you're my sports editor.
How slow am I? (Nate)
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
Very? I don't know...haha.
To be fair though, I must be slow for not seeing “Cheddar28” and thinking “That’s Nate!” My bad. :(
by BrettJMiller on Mar 10, 2010 12:18 AM PST up reply actions
What about a fat guy vs. a middle aged woman on the prowl?
by LantermanC on Mar 9, 2010 8:43 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Kathy Goertzen vs. Dave Softy Mahler?
I’ll take Kathy, because even though Local News is lower tier, it’s more than whatever it is Softy does.
by BrettJMiller on Mar 9, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Softy sucks!
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
by Generzal Zod on Mar 9, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
KJR's only good host was The Groz, and they let him go.
Basically the only program worth listening to in Seattle these days is Brock and Salk.
by BrettJMiller on Mar 9, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
Isaac and Suke on 1080 in Portland are really good.
Their show is on Comcast in the afternoons if you can’t get the signal where you are.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
This could've turned out to be a great deal
The Browns (Holmgren) were probably desperate for him (experienced, knows the WCO and can at the very least help teach others) and Carroll probably didn’t care if he kept or got rid of him. He’s a cheap backup who would’ve been gone after next year anyway. Although we’ll never get to, I would love to hear Carroll’s honest impression after viewing all of the tape on Seneca and how much of an impact that had on the decision.
They were so ineffective when he was in there
I don’t know if it was leadership or skills but they really sucked with him running the show.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
I'm not sure I'd say Seneca knows the WCO
I think that was half his problem, not getting what he should be doing and when.
Honestly I wouldn't have minded Brian Robiskie
I think he can turn out to be a solid possession receiver.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
So, we spend the whole year cheering on Seneca
to make the roster, team, start 17 games and pass as often as possible? Like cheering against the Broncos last year. I can get behind this!
THANK YOU HOLMGREN!
I will sorely miss the Sene-Sack and the glaring offense comprehension issues.
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
I'm pretty sure the Sene-Sack is going to become something I remember as a lovable quirk as soon as the Hawks are good again.
Definitely in retrospect.
Hopefully we get a chance to see it in action again in a different uniform.
"Hey, guess what? Nobody cares who would win in a crazy fantasy fist-fight between Anne Frank and Lizzie Borden." The Monarch
by crushedoptimist on Mar 8, 2010 7:43 PM PST up reply actions
Ya know,
This is good for Seneca. Holmgren can made him look decent sometimes. These last two years I hated to see Senceca take the field with that defeated look on his face. He was already a decision-liability when he HAD confidence, but when he lacked it… it was pretty much the worst thing in the blue and green world.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI
Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!
How much impact is Holmgren really going to have on players?
He’s got a lot on his plate without playing coach.
Depends on how the thinks Mangini is doing
If the Browns suck as bad as they did this year you may see Holmgren with a head set on the sidelines.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
I don't see him lasting the season
Holmgren doesn’t strike me as the type to sit by and let them not have an offense.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
rephrase:
Gil Haskel…???…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI
Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!
Sadly
Whilst basically fantastic no matter what happens with the pick in ’11, this crushes the tiny tiny iota of hope that there was some grand, complex, and unlikely plan to put Jake Locker in a Seahawk uniform. Time to let it go buddy, time to let it go.
He did that once as a rookie in a preseason game
and caught a lot of hell for it and hasn’t done it since.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
I think we're going to re-sign Shaun.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
I celebrate the day we got rid of him every year.
by DrunkAmerican on Mar 8, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions
I don't. I still remember the day he actually ran forwards.
He ran for a lot of yards and scored touchdowns. Lots and lots of touchdowns.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
Sir,
You could’ve run behind that offensive line for a lot of yards and lots of touchdowns.
He could if he was a mediocre running back in the NFL who could consistently break arm tackles.
by DrunkAmerican on Mar 9, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
He was so smooth while turning on a dime without giving up speed
He saw holes that no one saw. Shaun sucked when he was too slow to hit those holes but was great for a 5 year stretch. We rode him into the SuperBowl.
Where would be a good place to do that?
by DrunkAmerican on Mar 9, 2010 1:01 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah I've perused youtube for highlights but have come back pretty underwhelmed.
He clearly has great vision and knows where he needs to be to increase the effectiveness of his run, but so many of his big plays (including the ones at Alabama) come from incredible blocking. It’s been awhile since I went through them all, but it seems like he very rarely turned nothing into something.
by DrunkAmerican on Mar 9, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions
He's a drunk American. Hence that statement.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
I wasn't a fan in those days, so I'll always remember him for falling over at first contact every time.
Barring a ten foot wide hole, of course.
by DrunkAmerican on Mar 8, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah. I wasn't there to enjoy any of that.
Looks fun, though.
by DrunkAmerican on Mar 8, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
Not pictured was this trophy tackling him for a 2 yard loss only a couple years later.
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Mar 8, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions 7 recs
he was quoted as saying the trophy "stabbed me in the back"
--Shrug
Field Gulls - The SBN Seattle Seahawks Blog
by Shrug on Mar 8, 2010 9:34 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
Shaun was one of the most talented tailbacks this team has ever had the privilege of having on the roster.
Yes, he got old and lost his burst speed, but that doesn’t diminish the excellent years he put up as a Seahawk.
by BrianL on Mar 8, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
We pounded the hell out of him too
That was a big reason for the decline. Running backs who have to carry the load of the franchise fall apart at 30. I thought he deserved better than to be booed those final years.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
I wasn't booing Shaun so much as I was booing Holmgren's decision to continue using him as a feature back, and Ruskell's lack of cajones to cut him.
He looked done to me in 2006 (except that awesome Charger’s game and the playoff game) but I thought after the Bears playoff game that the only thing that good game did was buy him an extra year when he was clearly washed up. We booed because we Holmgren and Ruskell to keep him away from the field since it was the best way to win games, not because we didn’t respect what Alexander did for the Seahawks. I’d cheer him loudly if he made any appearance at Qwest, like, say, raising the 12th man Flag.
Also....Stump Mitchell sucks.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
My "favorite" Seneca moment
Was his across-the-field flip to Owen Schmitt against the Eagles, which could’ve easily been an interception. He hung his own RB out to dry for no good reason other than to be Seneca.
The Seattle Seahawks offense is driving......right into a brick wall at the end of the tunnel.
Why isn't the draft pick disclosed?
I don’t understand the reasoning. And when will we know what it’ll be?
I’m hoping for a 4th next year :P
6/14/40. Sweet.
That I don't know.
Someone smarter than me will have to answer that.
This is a very encouraging first trade from Schneider.
I was getting kinda worried about how this management would run things, but this move shows me that they are committed to acquiring draft picks and getting younger.
It also shows me that he has some Jack Z in him. Seneca for a future draft pick? Yes please!
You're reading too much into this.
This trade was a no-brainer.
It's encouraging that they haven't screwed up yet!
It is possible that this is all we get as far as good moves so don’t ruin it.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
That was a financial decison
so it doesn’t count as screwing up.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
better to pay a kicker too much at 1.5 million...
than a receiver at 7 million.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
by Generzal Zod on Mar 8, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
still doesn't count as a screw up
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
by Generzal Zod on Mar 8, 2010 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not so sure it's that simple
If the Seahawks franchise Redding, that’s 8.9 million guaranteed the moment he signs it, which I can’t imagine him not doing.
Now, yeah, Allen’s rich and there’s no cap next year, but that doesn’t mean the Seahawks aren’t a business. They have their budget and they have to stick to it. Plus, they could probably sign him to a 4 year deal for 8.9 million if they want. Burleson is worse at 9.8 mil guaranteed.
For us to fantasize about, but I’m not so sure the front office would get the ok to exceed the budget.
by B.B.Finnegan on Mar 8, 2010 11:01 PM PST up reply actions
Why not?
$2.5 million is not a horrible price for a good kicker in an uncapped year. Even good teams franchise kickers (Pittsburgh franchised theirs this year, and New England has franchised their kicker twice in the last 10 years, Cincinnati did it last year and made the playoffs even though they normally suck).
If they didn’t want Burleson or Redding at the franchise prices, there was no reason not to use it on Mare.
by Mind of no mind on Mar 9, 2010 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
They could have
Signed him to a long term contract and saved the franchise tag for a different player?
Or let him walk and sign another kicker?
Also just because Cincinnati franchised their kicker and made the playoffs doesn’t mean the Seahawks will do the same. Although that would be a kickass cheat code in the NFL.
by ungoreatstefan on Mar 9, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
Actually I think the franchise tag on Mare is a better move than those options.
Other players were more important to keep, but not more worth the cost of their tag. Could get another kicker. But he’s still got good leg on kickoffs, and assurance is nice when you have so many other concerns — and with no cap this tag is not an impediment to your latitude with those concerns.
Do we want him long-term? He’ll soon be 37. For all everyone wants us to stockpile talent at every position to see what sticks, right now, we seem to assume there’s enough of a glut of kickers that we can get an equivalent on-demand. Get a kicker next year. Interesting discussion and all, but I just can’t see this as a clear-cut screw-up, not at all.
Nice cheat-code lick, though, that was nice.
This also is not a screw up:
but we’re currently moving toward the draft, having an increased need at WR and a self-induced increase in need at QB. The Wallace trade in itself is good. And this free agent market was not a good one, by any means, and I don’t think we should sign people just to sign them. And it’s early and I like that they didn’t just pull the trigger and jump into the frenzy.
But our needs were already stark. If Q/PM paint themselves into a corner in the draft, that will be very poor management. Not certain that’s what’s going on, but it’s my biggest concern.
If they didn't think Burleson or Redding worth the franchise tag,
then there is nobody left to use it on besides Mare. The next best free agent after those 3 is probably Ken Lucas, which would be a horrible mistake. Also on top of the age issue with Mare as jacobstevens mentioned, there will likely be either a new CBA or a lockout for the 2011 season, so it’s best to avoid signing an old player like Mare to a long term contract until those things get figured out.
And I was only pointing out that successful teams have franchised their kickers before. Some people are acting as if franchising the kicker is unheard of, and only a stupid or very bad organization would do such a thing. I’m only pointing out 3 examples that I know of involving other teams that have franchised their kickers. 2 of them are considered top notch organizations and the other generally being sucky, but having had recent success.
by Mind of no mind on Mar 9, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
Now you're just arguing that using the franchise on Mare is slightly less stupid than using it on Burleson.
That’s still a screwup.
I was being sarcastic
in a holding the wing on an airplane with your eyes kinda way…
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
by Generzal Zod on Mar 8, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions
There haven't been that many trades this offseason yet.
And certainly every team has dead-weight it could get rid of.
Seneca is worth next to nothing. For us to get anything out of him is great, in my opinion.
I imagine the telephone conversation between Holmgren and Schneider went like this
Holmgren: Hey John, we’re interested in getting Seneca Wa…
Schneider: Done.
Holmgren: …lla…wait what? Don’t you want to know what I’m offering?
Schneider: Nope. You got him. It’s been good dealing with you.
by Vasilii on Mar 9, 2010 3:50 AM PST up reply actions 7 recs
It works for the Eagles, Colts, Steelers, & Patriots
I hope it is the approach we’re taking.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
I hate Michael Lombardi and think he is a rumor-regurgitating pile o' shit.
That is all.
by DJ C-Raig on Mar 8, 2010 11:39 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Jarrett Brown
I wouldn’t mind seeing Seattle draft Jarrett Brown as the long term guy but I agree that there probably has to be a “Derek Anderson” type of player signed as the backup for this season.
Any old USC QBs floating around?
Falcons, Seahawks, Huskers!
He'd need a lot of work
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
by Generzal Zod on Mar 9, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
Teel
Is it conceivable that the staff already sees something they like in Teel? I really don’t know much about Teel other than some youtube videos, but I get the feeling that he is treated as an after thought most of the time. I wish we could have seen him play the last few games of the season so we can know what he was made of.
Teel is probably cheap enough to stay on the roster
We don’t know what we have but it probably isn’t great but good enough to hold a clipboard and get the crap knocked out of him by the first team defense.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
by Generzal Zod on Mar 9, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
I think that question will be answered on day one of the draft
Either they like him here, or he is the number 3 guy, because he is cheap and fills the slot.
Minus the steroids
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by Generzal Zod on Mar 9, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions
Derek Anderson cut by Browns
Link to article.
Cross your fingers boys. I really hope we don’t see him in Blue and Green next year. Because that means we likely won’t make a serious play on a franchise QB.
6/14/40. Sweet.
I guess if we had wanted Derek Anderson he could have been ours.
He was released by CLE today.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4979700
So, good news as far as I’m concerned. I still wonder if we’ll work him out, though I can’t say adding him is a good move.
He had a good season
with a good o-line and good receivers, maybe the Browns should have taken those offers.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
by Generzal Zod on Mar 9, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
and now Sorgi is off the market!!!
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
by Generzal Zod on Mar 9, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions
at least they aren't Toughskins
Sorgi will just hold a clipboard
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by Generzal Zod on Mar 10, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions
Can I patent the headline "Now I'm done!"
For when Matt retires?
by DJ C-Raig on Mar 9, 2010 12:23 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Seahawks pass Seneca Wallace to Browns
Hopefully this means that the team is going after a top QB in the draft. LT at 6, QB at 14, DE or CB at 40.
What? No SOUL?
I'd be okay with Tebow
if it were down to Tebow or McCoy I would go with Tebow because of his size alone.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
What QB will be available and not a reach at 14 that might not well be available at 40 too?
I assume Clausen and Bradford will be gone by then
I'd rather it goes like this:
Take Clausen at #6 if he’s available, and Gerald McCoy if Clausen is gone, LT #14 (whoever is the top LT on our board) and then whoever they want at #40, frankly, I couldn’t care less.
Thanks for the greatest catch in Seahawks history Seneca
The second I realized that it was you who that came down with it I actually believed we were going to the Super Bowl. Other catches have been more physically impressive but none have had the emotional meaning that yours did.
You were always one of my quirky favorites and I forgive you for being terrible the last two years since you kept the boat afloat long enough in 2006 without Shaun or Hass to enable us to make the playoffs.
It’s a shame that we couldn’t use you to the best of your talent but if it’s any condolence you were just traded for (and drafted) by the guy who has the best eye for QB’s that this league has ever seen. I’m sure you will make something out of your career yet.
P.S.
Can I please stop being forced to say goodbye to the things that I love :( :( :(
by Robert on Mar 9, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Felix only got extended because Robert handcuffed him to the bed and fed him Viagra.
by Wilder. on Mar 9, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think Robert would prefer getting the restraining order on him removed
so he can be within 100 feet of Carlson and Felix again.
Now with more lemon bars!
Details are out:
The pick acquired by Seattle in the Seneca Wallace-to-Cleveland trade was a conditional seventh-rounder.
Ugh.
I saw the same thing, and literally said the exact same thing.
Ugh.
6/14/40. Sweet.
by Nick Andron on Mar 10, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Not good for the browns
If Wallace ends up starting twelve games, they’ll want their #7 back.
by djafrot on Mar 10, 2010 2:59 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
when I said that I was thinking it was a true conditional pick
I like Holmgren still and would like to see him exercise some of his G.M. demons he has with us by getting Cleveland back on track, which means Seneca holds a clip board and plays WR.
Daboll was also QB coach with Brad Smith so he knows about some of the trickery the Jets used that could be part of it.
Give me an offensive line or give me death!
by Generzal Zod on Mar 10, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions

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