A Semi-realistic Look at What Seattle Traded for Charlie Whitehurst
SBN runs a mock draft. Unfortunately, without trades and with most picks being informed by XYZ mock draft, it's not that realistic. It is, however, a decent barometer, in toto, for the opportunity Seattle spent moving from 40 to 60. Let's look at who was selected, and then who I selected.
40. San Diego - Cam Thomas, NT, North Carolina
41. Buffalo - Eric Norwood, OLB, South Carolina
42. Tampa Bay - Patrick Robinson
43. Miami - Demaryius Thomas, WR, Georgia Tech
44. New England - Ricky Sapp, OLB, Clemson
45. Denver - Jonathan Dwyer, RB, Georgia Tech
46. New York Giants - Brian Price, DT, UCLA
47. New England - Damian Williams, WR, USC
48. Carolina - Mardy Gilyard, WR, Cincinnati
49. San Francisco - Vladimir Ducasse, OL, Mass.
50. Kansas City - Jared Veldheer, OT, Hillsdale
51. Houston - Kareem Jackson, CB, Alabama
52. Pittsburgh - Chad Jones, S, LSU
53. New England - Rodger Saffold, OT, Indiana
54. Cincinnati - Jon Asamoah, G, Illinois
55. Philadelphia - Morgan Burnett, S, Georgia Tech
56. Green Bay - Dominique Franks, CB, Oklahoma
57. Baltimore - Tyson Alualu, DT, California
58. Arizona - Sean Lee, MLB, Penn State
59. Dallas - Arrelious Benn, WR, Illinois
I think what is most striking is that for almost any position selected, we can look at the next available player and see a comparable talent. Seattle missed on Price and Alualu. Lamarr Houston is still available. A few wide receivers selected, well--
Taylor Price is still available.
I think Seattle did overspend for Charlie Whitehurst. For one, it is reported that they accepted the first offer without negotiation. We don't know if negotiation would have mattered, but talking San Diego into sweetening the deal with a seventh round pick or comparable would have been nice. Mostly, Seattle overspent for Whitehurst because Whitehurst does not seem like a particularly exciting prospect. However, let's say it bought an asset with a 10% chance of maturing into something valuable. As long as Seattle is not relying on that asset, Whitehurst can be coupled with another quarterback or quarterbacks. Whitehurst, Clausen, LeFevour, Jones, whoever, collectively Seattle improves its chances of landing a good quarterback. I just wish Seattle did not spend as much as it did to improve its chances so little.
It did not spend that much, though. Moving down in this draft, because Seattle has so many needs, and because this draft is so deep, and so rich with second-tier talent, removed options, but probably will not severely downgrade the talent available. The third in 2011 is the more valuable resource, but if this draft is loaded, and if this draft is loaded because so many underclassmen declared, the upshot is that 2011 is likely to be talent poor. That 2011 third may be no more valuable than an early fifth in 2010.
Again, the real sting of the Whitehurst deal is that Whitehurst himself does not seem like a high potential prospect, but though Seattle probably overpaid, it did not pay as much as some think. Given the depth of this class, and the Seahawks needs, the difference between 40 and 60 may be no more than a narrowing of a pool of largely undifferentiated talent.
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I think there will be a lot of movement between rounds 1 and 2
especially with the close to 24 hours between the two, people will be on their phones all night trying to position for the people who make major falls.
If we got Houston at 60 I’d still be happy.
At least we aren't the Raiders?
Interesting pick
I have a preference for Carlton Mitchell based on highlights I’ve seen and his height/weight/speed ratio. But Price has much buzz about him. Interesting approach to the draft. Reach city, but interesting.
It is what it is...
I wonder, is it really a reach
or just unconventional?
So, I have in four years I have selected: Matthew Stafford, Eben Britton, John Carlson, Brian Brohm and Michael Bush. Don’t know what’s up with Brohm, but I don’t regret any of those picks.
I thought Brohm would have been a good NFL QB
Coming back for his senior year was a big mistake.
At least we aren't the Raiders?
by Generzal Zod on Apr 14, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
With these guys
I just assume it’ll be an open competition going into camp/pre-season
by Thomas Beekers on Apr 14, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Reach is so subjective
I would prefer just to recant the statement. His measureables are better than that of Carlton Mitchell, and from what I’ve read and watched (yes, I’m that great of a scout!) he has good hands and has tons of buzz.
I struggle with Mays. But to what benefit. In the end, my impressions of Mays are clouded by groupthink and overall bias.
I commend your willingness to think outside the box. While we may not agree on this, I still believe any draft to generally be a crapshoot. Too many scenarios with life events, mindsets, and agendas to make any decision a guarantee.
It is what it is...
I think of the draft like poker. You can't control the cards, but you can make good decisions
and bad ones.
I wish we could commend Mays when he's outside the box.
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
It's always interesting to take a draft from like ten years ago and re-rank the players based on how well they did
Sometimes it’s accurate, but often times there’s huge disparities. Like Housh for example. Of course 9 out of 10 players probably amounted from nothing to very little.
by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 14, 2010 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree that the talent drop off might not be as much as I first feared,
but I was really hoping that we’d be able to pull off another 2nd round pick for a 2011 1st round pick. I think it was possible at #40, but I don’t see it happening at #60.
by Mind of no mind on Apr 14, 2010 5:05 PM PDT reply actions
Whitehurst
Bear in mind that Arizona made a similar offer to SD and Charlie chose to come to Seattle.
Carroll and Schneider weren’t the only ones who saw something.
by AnchorageHawkFan on Apr 14, 2010 5:29 PM PDT reply actions
Keep in mind also that Arizona usually sucks at player evaluation
by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 14, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions
The interest drove the price up for him too
He has been good enough to stay on the roster for four years for a team that has the most established starter and back up QBs in the league.
At least we aren't the Raiders?
by Generzal Zod on Apr 14, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Of those names, only Chad Jones I'd like a shot at drafting.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

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