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2010 Seahawks Mock Draft: Version 1

This is the first of four mock drafts. The first three are intended to be predicative. A player will only be featured once. The final is for fun. It's my own mock draft.

6. Russell Okung, OT: Rob Rang reports that Washington ranks Trent Williams above Russell Okung. I'm an avowed Williams supporter, but holy hell would this be sweet. Okung is a franchise left tackle. He has excellent footwork, and that allows him to pull and trap and negotiate the second level with ease. His contributions to the run game are small beer compared to his potential as a pass blocker. His thick, squatty build but preternaturally long arms make him a nightmare to achieve separation from. Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave. He has the power to hold ground, the presence to stop the inside move and the length to neutralize the edge rush. Okung will be an above average starter as a rookie and will continue to improve for seasons to come.

Seattle will want to trade their 14th pick and I think will be able to. A few first-tier talents should fall, and a team like Philadelphia has the resources to move up without blowing their draft. Seattle moves its 14th pick to Philadelphia for the Eagles 24th overall pick, the 70th overall pick and the 105th overall pick in the fourth. That is a fair exchange, fits what Seattle is doing, maybe allows the Eagles to draft C.J. Spiller, and allows Seattle to draft...

24. Taylor Mays, S: I've said plenty about Mays, but another fact worth mentioning is that by drafting Mays, Carroll fills a leadership position with a player that knows his system, and by being drafted by Carroll, Mays will continue in the system he knows best. I'm a fan of simplicity and repetition. Landing in Seattle may be Mays clearest path to success.

60. Brandon Ghee, CB: Ghee is big, toolsy corner that likes to lay the wood. He could push for the second corner position right away and maybe win it. All this talk about competition, plus Seattle's performance, age and contract status in the secondary, makes me think we will see a shakeup. Ghee might be a late bloomer or just mis-scouted, but I like his fit and love his potential.

70. Thaddeus Gibson, SDE: Gibson is a good athlete and has experience playing stand up end. He tore apart Fisch's Gophers, for what that's worth. Seattle adds another talent to its steadily growing pile of stand up ends. It's a vital position and I expect Seattle to load up on talent and emphasize competition. Gibson will start on special teams and eventually replace Rickey Foley or Chris Clemson.

104. Eric Decker, WR: Decker is a big, position wide receiver with excellent ball skills, good performance and strong ties to the coaching staff. His head coach last season was Jedd Fisch. He struggled with injury in 2009, and that will cause him to fall. Decker is kind of the anti-Deon Butler.

105. Selvish Capers, OT: Relying on Sean Locklear is foolish, and regardless of his former and future health, giving Sean Locklear competition is smart. Capers may not be an ideal left tackle for any team with aspirations of competing, but he could be an amazing right tackle in a zone blocking system. Either Capers or Locklear could move inside, meaning addressing right tackle helps Seattle address depth at guard.

127. Kevin Thomas, DB: Jordan Babineaux, meet your replacement. Thomas is one of my favorite prospects in this draft and has been since last season. He has struggled with injuries, but injury, like almost anything bad, is one way for a good player to fall father than their talent would dictate. Thomas keeps bouncing back, keeps being productive, and I think Carroll knows better than most just what kind of player he can be. He will start as a utility defensive back, but could beat out Babineaux before camp is over.

133. Gene Atkins, DT: Atkins is a short, thickly muscled athlete that knows how to disrupt and should replace Craig Terrill. Rotational guy, but with excellent pass rush potential.

139. Daniel Te'o-Nesheim, DE: Seattle needs another strong side end to complement and maybe replace Lawrence Jackson. Te'o needs to bulk up a bit to hold up against NFL double teams, but he has the skills and hustle to occupy blockers and fight his way back into the action.

176. Andrew Quarless, TE: Seattle filled its immediate need for a blocking tight end by signing Chris Baker, but Baker is nearing 31 and the team will need to replace him in the next couple years. Quarless is an underachiever with good talent but little to show from it.

245. Stafon Johnson, RB: Johnson has the vision and decision making ability to be productive in a zone blocking scheme. He doesn't have break away speed, but gets into the hole and nets positive yards.

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I find myself not being that excited by most of the defensive names

but the offensive guys I like. This would be an acceptable draft to me.

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by bluemax on Apr 21, 2010 5:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Baraka???

Our goal line D will never be the same…well ok yeah it will.

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Apr 21, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

offense

this interests me. But I think we need a guard as well. And no Mays, please, we’ve had the ‘hammer’ safeties, they’re overrated. There are other safeties later on, or corners that could help out pass defense even more.

by paul2 on Apr 21, 2010 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Then you'd probably get some interesting trade proposals or Eric Berry.

Barring something otherworldly stupid (Mays) I have a hard time seeing the Q/PM messing up 6.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 21, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

There aren't a lot of bad choices at 6

Even Bradford isn’t a bad pick at 6, if we can get him real protection.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 21, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

I am very nervous about McCoy. I really, really, really want him there at #6. But I know that’s not likely.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 21, 2010 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

This would be good for me for Okung if nothing else

But I would also like Kevin Thomas. I confess I didn’t know much about him (Besides him being the one Mays killed in the Rose Bowl) until the DB Combine drills, he looked awesome.

Beyond Okung though, and minorly KThom, not a lot of pop in this for me.

by DJ C-Raig on Apr 21, 2010 5:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Aside from the lack of a quarterback prospect,

This looks awesome. But being as Carroll and our GM* don’t seem interested in drafting a QB, I’m going to call it “optimally awesome.” Optawesome.

  • Do we have a GM?

by Jason_D on Apr 21, 2010 5:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Actually, I just read Schneider saying the exact opposite of that.

He said that “you have to go into the draft assuming QB is a need”… or something like that, sorry, I shouldn’t have used quotes.

So who knows…

by djafrot on Apr 21, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where did you read that?

If Mr. I would trade my Grandma for more picks said it, i would guess its a complete smoke screan

by stufr on Apr 21, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Man, I don't know.

Can’t keep track of all this shit anymore.

by djafrot on Apr 21, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Between Clausen and Okung you have to go Okung - or you are really stupid

I was always okay with them taking Clausen but I have really been warming up to the idea the last week. I think I would rather have him over Berry and am unsure about McCoy.

Of course all bets are off if we could land Suh.

The real dilemma Okung vs. Suh?

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 21, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Disagreed.

Franchise QB’s are much, much harder to find than LT’s. And infinitely more important.

by djafrot on Apr 21, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Which is exactly why we should draft Clausen at 6.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Sam Bradford, OT Ciron Black*, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling**, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Apr 22, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's like deciding between getting a car, or getting car insurance...

You really need both, but the insurance (LT) is pretty useless if there’s no car (qb) to protect.

by Kryten on Apr 22, 2010 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

and franchise LTs are infinitely harder to find than QBs.

Franchise LTs are people like Jones, Ogden, Pace, Faneca. They don’t come around very often. It might be reasonable to say that Okung or Williams have a better chance of being pro bowl good than Bradford or Clausen.

by BurtonOerney on Apr 22, 2010 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Franchise QBs matter more than franchise left tackles.

I’d I would argue that franchise left tackles are easier to find than franchise QBs. You even said it yourself: Williams or Okung have a better chance of being pro bowl good. Why? Because franchise QBs are much harder to find.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Sam Bradford, OT Ciron Black*, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling**, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Apr 22, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for saying exactly what I was going to say.

Walter is the best ever at his position. Peyton Manning is the best ever at his position. Which one would you rather have?

by djafrot on Apr 22, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I second that

Okung could be our next Jones. Put anybody at QB and he makes them better. Put the best QB with Locklear on his left and he gets worse.

by stufr on Apr 21, 2010 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

My concern with taking Clausen and having him get the hell beat out of him

Injuries happen (especially to Matt) and if Whitehurst goes out and sucks next year then what? Do we put Clausen out there with no protection and have him lose his confidence?

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 21, 2010 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope.

Just don’t start him.

Now with more lemon bars!

by Fear on Apr 21, 2010 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

The response to your argument is that we're not drafting players just for this season.

Gotta think long term. If you think Clausen is a franchise QB, grab him and bench him til you have your line repaired.

by sev79 on Apr 21, 2010 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately I am not in the position to do that

Teams always say they want to do that but it usually lasts until someone gets hurt or the team goes into the tank and the team thinks let ’em get some reps.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 21, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't agree with that at all.

Franchise QBs are more valuable and have a pretty big effect on pass protection themselves.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 21, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

wasn't calling anyone here stupid btw - was thinking about Q/PM

I think the question for me is Clausen a franchise QB?

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 21, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okung makes me excited in unusal and awkward ways

I’m afraid of mays, but i get the reasoning, and I’m happy about the CB, the rest is good depth and potential.

by stufr on Apr 21, 2010 5:37 PM PDT reply actions  

OKUNG!!!

For months he was supposed to be locked up at 4. Williams looks good but there was talk about him being a true LT. Okung is like the offensive equivalent of Suh.

We need a better secondary period…but we need safeties on the roster. Mays has so much potential, Kevin Thomas is pretty good and it isn’t hard to be better than Babs, but I don’t know if that means he will be a good safety or not. I can’t really find anything on Brandon McGee. I do like Selvish Capers, I know he needs polishing but he seems like a guy Gibbs can take some time to groom. Erik Decker could be our reliable third receiver we haven’t had in a while. Stafon Johnson would be nice to pair with Force and a 7th round pick for him, why the hell not? If he isn’t fully recovered then so what.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 21, 2010 5:38 PM PDT reply actions  

The Rams will take Suh, not Bradford...

…at least that is what is becoming increasingly likely the closer we get.

No talks between Bradford and the Rams. Bradford said he is willing to sign ahead of the draft, but no offer has been made.

Supposedly the Rams are unanimous on the pick. Everyone assumes that’s Bradford, but I can name 50 million reasons why Suh is more likely.

The Rams take Suh at 1, and Colt McCoy at 33. If this happens, does anyone have any idea what happens to the top of the draft? There is not one mock, let alone several, that considers the possibility, so not sure how it would to.

For example, what does Detroit do? Take an LT?

If they do, Tampa takes McCoy.

What does Washington and KC do? They don’t take a QB, so does that mean both Bradford and Clausen are there at six, or does someone trade up, with Detroit, perhaps, KC or Washington to get Bradford?

by Hawksince77 on Apr 21, 2010 6:34 PM PDT reply actions  

that could screw up a lot of draft boards

The Bucs could use an o-linemen too but could take Berry? Berry is a special player and could be worth it, the Redskins have seemed to zero in on Williams, which means the Niners get on the phone pretty quickly if that happens and they’ll take Clausen or Bradford – my guess would be Bradford because he fits Singletary’s personality but they have tried a spread QB and it hasn’t worked out well for them.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 21, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Suh goes #1...

Detroit will be facing the same dillema (Okung/DT?) but with an additional option to trade out with someone who wants Bradford.
TB would be praying for that to occur— or for the Lions to take Okung so they could get McCoy.
If both DTs are gone, TB will be the one looking to trade down.

I think some team will trade up into the top 5 to grab Bradford if he got past Detroit. Probably a team that hasn’t done as much research on him because they never dreamed they could get him.
When the dust settles and we’re up, we’ll still have 2 of the top 7 to choose from. (Bradford/Okung/Clausen/Suh/McCoy/Berry and new to the top 7 Trent Williams, who I think will go to the ’Skins)

by Kryten on Apr 21, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

St Louis has passed on

Sanchez, Flacco, etc. in the last few years and they’ve already tried to fill DT recently. It would be surprising if they don’t finally get a quarterback. But hey, as surely as the seasons change, teams at the top of the draft get cold feet on quarterbacks as draft day approaches. Also, any other quarterback predicted to go in the top three rounds will move up to the first round; especially if there aren’t many ’can’t miss’ qb prospects. We’ll see Colt McCoy go before the second and maybe Tebow.

by BurtonOerney on Apr 22, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Effing love this one

Anyone who has Teo drafted by the ’Hawks is good in my book. Love the 10 and 20 yard split to go with that ridiculous 3 cone and major motor.

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Apr 21, 2010 7:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Quarless

Quarless=unbelievable talent and Joe Paterno’s Doghouse.

He is also not a blocking TE…he can block but he is a much better receiver than a blocker. Penn State used Shuler as the Blocking TE not Quarless.

by Ratman44 on Apr 21, 2010 7:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I would definitely love it if the draft fell this way tomorrow.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 21, 2010 8:29 PM PDT reply actions  

I concur

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I kind of like the three day format

Round 1 gets all the attention then there is almost 24 hours for teams to rearrange their boards and make moves to get the people left over. There are so many good and sometimes great players that come from the second round it gives teams time to really reload.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 22, 2010 9:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

It does bode well for trades.

I like that.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Sam Bradford, OT Ciron Black*, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling**, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Apr 22, 2010 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Especially since Schneider appears to be very good at trading down. He’ll milk this shit.

by djafrot on Apr 22, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why I want Stafon Johnson... When asked what his favorite play he was involved in he responded:

“It would have to be the block in the Arizona game to win the game.”

Not a long rush. not a reception, not a touchdown but a block to help his team win the game.

by Trojan Knight on Apr 21, 2010 8:51 PM PDT reply actions  

I kind of like that - not a lot of backs want to block and don't give a lot of effort to it

and probably it’s P.R. to show he isn’t a “me” guy.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 21, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping Tate or Hardesty make it to round 4.

I’m also a huge fan of Anthony Dixon. Dwyer could really surprise some people. If he falls far enough…

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Sam Bradford, OT Ciron Black*, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling**, RB Jonathan Dwyer

by Misfit74 on Apr 22, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I really like the trade especially

Especially because it wouldn’t shock me if Mays got drafted by us at 14.

by MT Olson on Apr 22, 2010 1:15 AM PDT reply actions  

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