Seattle Seahawks Select Earl Thomas 14th Overall
by John Morgan on Apr 22, 2010 6:14 PM PDT
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Everyone wants to be happy on draft day, so listen to whatever Mike Mayock says. He loves Thomas.
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I saw that too.....
and was mushing on him all day. I’m fired up but I’m not draft smart and I wasn’t sold on that Clausen at 14.
I like Sexy picks after taking an OL. I’m not saying that it makes sense or that other people think of a safety as sexy pick. Sexy is very subjective :)
Mariners 2010 record with me in attendance 1-0.
by The Manchild on Apr 22, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
My only problem with him is 5'10", 32" vert
Other than that he’s a playmaker and could be moved to corner.
Well
Maylock had him #1 over Berry. So we just have to wait and see.
Smith's talent
And DEN overpaying for it are two completely different issues.
"I'm tired of chasing after my dreams. I'll just find out where they're going, and catch up later." - Hedberg
by jteckmann on Apr 22, 2010 7:05 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Not even a comparison.
Mayock ranked Alphonso Smith as the #4 CB in last years draft, and did not have him in his top 20 players. He has Earl Thomas as the #1 safety and the 6th best prospect overall.
by Mind of no mind on Apr 23, 2010 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions
So what was your point?
“Maylock was wrong about that guy, so he must be wrong about this guy”
Smith struggled his first year – so did Josh Wilson. They’re similar type players. Smith’s struggles were amplified by the price DEN paid to get him and increased expectations. But he still has a chance to be a decent 2nd/Nickel DB. Still not worth what DEN paid, but in line with what Maylock had him pegged at.
And it’s not like we’re treating Maylock like some God – he makes mistakes too. But Thomas was pegged as the #2 or #1B by a lot of different draft guys, so there’s a lot of consensus his talent is legit. And this was exactly the value range he was expected to go in.
"I'm tired of chasing after my dreams. I'll just find out where they're going, and catch up later." - Hedberg
My point about Maycock?
My only point about Maycock is that he’s not always right. That Maycock thinks he’s the best safety in the draft isn’t a good argument for validating a player’s worthiness.
Yes, it is.
It’s just not a foolproof argument.
Height isn't a issue at safety.
And his game speed is nuts.
by Scruffy Lefty on Apr 22, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Ed Reed is 5'11". Polamalu is 5'10", Bob Sanders is 5'8".
If he’s talented, it doesn’t matter.
Not very well this time of year...
I’m just trying to drag my body around right now haha
TouchMyIchiro
Lol
Nice try, but I still don’t see the comments on Thomas. But I love the pick :)
Lol
Nice try, but I still don’t see the comments on Thomas. But I love the pick :)
Thomas has been my pick at 14...
…for weeks.
I thought sure Phili traded up to 13 to take him.
Amazing draft. Amazing 1st round. I can’t believe Okung was available. I can’t believe Thomas was available.
The two biggest holes filled in the first two picks.
Way effing cool.
by Hawksince77 on Apr 22, 2010 6:52 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Couldn't agree more
I’m absolutely stunned that I’m this happy with Q/PM. Bravo guys.
by Hancock.Brett on Apr 22, 2010 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Me too! Philly trading up to #13 scared the crap out of me!
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions
That is what I thought was going to happen too
When they traded up I figured we’d get Clausen.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 22, 2010 10:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I would have been quite happy with that, too.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
And I was wrong about Bradford not going to the Rams...
…and I was wrong being sure that Okung was going to Detroit, Washington or KC.
I loved Washington taking Williams. I can’t believe Jacksonville took Alualu. OMG. And Phili trading up to take Graham. Thanks go out to Phili, Washington and Jacksonville for helping to make this an awesome Seahawk first round.
Agreed
Philly dropped the ball by taking Graham over D. Morgan, I have no idea what they were thinking.
He seems so similar to Tapp
too short, not great burst.
by ColumbiaRob on Apr 23, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Philly should've really gone after Earl Thomas.
The Seahawks have traded my signature to the Detroit Lions for a 6th round draft pick.
by SSreporters on Apr 23, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, you can't really fault a team for grabbing one good player over another...
especially if they were both needs.
However, in a few years if the one they took busts and the one they passed over becomes All-Pro, then yes, we can both fault and laugh at them.
Graham will be pretty good
I thought they may try to make a move for Berry
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
I think they are looking at the ceiling
Morgan will be a good player, Graham has the potential to be an amazing player.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Well Seattle's line could be very good soon
and we grab the safe pick with a safety (it wasn’t Mays, YAY!). Too bad we don’t have any skill position players…our 2nd round pick is going to be very interesting.
Now with more lemon bars!
Ahnold FTW
Get to the Choppa!!!!
"What people need to know is that those pictures were taken a year and a half ago, and I've grown since then." - Greg Oden
by dario argento on Apr 22, 2010 9:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I was really hoping Spiller fell to 14
but it was a pipe dream that was unrealistic. Its always the teams that you don’t expect. Earl Thomas was choice number two so I’m happy. Now we need a gaurd in round 4 to play behind Hamilton that Gibbs can groom, and in round 2 a WR or RB.
The only DT I want at that point is Houston
and I think he’ll be gone. I actually thought Alualu might be there, wow.
So.. surprises of today's round:
- Oakland actually making a SMART pick.
- Jacksonville taking Alualu 10th overall.
- San Diego trading up big time for Matthews. Seriously, I firmly believe that he would have been available to a much more desirable trading location; well into the early 20’s, so if San Diego had wanted to trade up, it would been a lot more value for them.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
Oh, and TEBOW!!
And Clausen!!
What. The. Fuck?
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
...
This was known to be a pretty deep class for secondary players..
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 9:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Most of the mocks I saw had the two safeties and two corners.
Maybe seven isn’t that many, but it just seemed like it when I looked at the picks.
Hm. Honestly, it doesn't surprise me much at all.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree.
Defensive backs tend to fall a little bit. While there is a lot of talent at those positions this year, I figured needs would push them down. Obviously, talent beat need. So, there are a lot of good players at other positions for the second round.
I don't like the pick. Seahawks wanted Spiller I hope.
San Diego thought Seahawks was going to take Ryan mathews instead at 14 (I was hoping they would), so they had to move up to get him. We settled for Thomas. I am a little dissapointed. Another midget defensive back who will get injured, or worse, he will have to cover a tall WR in the red zone and he will be eaten alive in jump ball situations. I dont like the pick.
"another midget defensive back"
Oh lord.
Check him out size wise compared to other NFL Pro Bowl safeties, OK? Then come back here and tell me he’s too small.
I think he's average for a safety, right?
He couldn’t be a lot shorter. He could be taller. I’m fine with his size.
I don't think we settled at all.
I’d been hoping for Thomas if we couldn’t get Berry. Also, if you believe Carroll’s Twitter hints at all then he got the two he was targeting.
I know Spiller is a Bill.
So, Sea was going to take Mathews instead, and SD moved up to take him, leaving us with Thomas to join our Wizard of Oz Munchkin defensive backfield. Who is going to cover 6-3 Fitzgerald, or 6-3 Dominique Byrd, or crabtree, or anyone else over 6’?
How many 6-2, 6-3 corners are there out there?
Defensive backs are small guys. Thats just how it is. Guys like Fitzgerald are doubled anyways so size is hardly a factor. Dominique Byrd? His lack of talent makes it easier to compensate for his good size.
See, if you researched before you said these things
You would know that The Alien played for Texas…who plays OSU…who has Dez Bryant…who is huge.
Um, how do you know Seattle was taking Matthews?
Everyone on TV says they were moving up to get ahead of Houston.
Wishful thinking on my part
Since we couldn’t get Spiller
Most defensive backs are 5'11 or 6'0.
Darelle Revis is maybe the best corner in the game and he’s 5’11. Champ Bailey is 6’0. Ty Law is 5’11, etc.
Yeah, we really need to watch out for Byrd
What with his career average of one catch per season. I’m just terrified of him.
I accept corners being shorter for quickness
But Thomas is supposed to be a SAFETY. so DJ if YOUI researched this you would know that SAFETIES are usually BIGGER. It is the role of a safety to provide double coverage, especially on bigger WR
He's about an inch shorter than Reed and Polamalu and two inches taller than Sanders.
Height isn’t a big deal for safeties.
Safeties are usually BIGGER meaning HEAVIER not TALLER.
But CAPS for EMPHASIS are awesome. I USE them frequently MYSELF.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 22, 2010 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 15 recs
I wonder how much if at all Carrol is regretting not having his early 2nd round pick now that Clausen and Mays are both sitting out there...
I HATE that we overpaid for a guy with 2 career completions, meanwhile all the talk is starting to convince me Hasselbeck is the defacto and for certain starter…
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 22, 2010 9:08 PM PDT reply actions
Well Day 2 and Day 3 is gonna be about giving Hasselbeck/Whitehurst some weapons
We got them protection with Okung and solidified the defense besides Defensive End with a Safety I hope we get Shipley.
by Seahawksfan23 on Apr 22, 2010 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I might be in the minoritie, but I want more picks in the trenches, on either side of the ball.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah but we need a receiver and bad.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 22, 2010 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions
They might not.
They loaded up with receivers with size. I think they’re banking on either or both of the Williams’ to improve the WR corps.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
That is a good plan
I hope it works out still
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 22, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope so too.
I’m going all out as a fanboy for Reggie. I still have fond memories of him as a Husky.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions
You Huskies...
Then again I still blame the Lions for killing Joey Harrington’s chances of being a good QB.
Didn’t Cody Pickett look like Eddie Munster to you?
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 22, 2010 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
That works out better in the long run
Let Hass play, and the backup will struggle when he is in. We can hope for a 3 win season and win the Locker sweepstakes. Jake is regarded by experts as head and shoulders better than Bradford, Stafford, Clausen, etc.
SWEET! Let's root for a 3 win season.
And hope that we win the coin flip for Locker. Yay!
Sign me up for mediocrity and wastefulness!!! Let’s punt the season.
In fact, if we punt 2 seasons, we’ll be able to get Locker AND the great (Fill in hyped X-Factor player here) and we’ll be a powerhouse for sure.
Of course, if we punt the season after that as well, we could probably rule the world with all our high first round talent!!!!
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 22, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions
It's actually paying off now for SF
because they weren’t stupid enough to blow all their picks on WRs.
Now with more lemon bars!
Alex Smith really hurt them.
If he develops, it’ll all be worth it. And he should be just hitting his prime. But man if they had (or get) a good QB, all those 1st round picks are going to look awfully good.
Now with more lemon bars!
bad management has really hurt them
Okay I am a little biased because I am also a Packers fan and am really happy we have Rodgers.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 22, 2010 10:21 PM PDT up reply actions
I was scared shitless of SF's draft until they made their picks...
Haden and Spiller was a problem…
Davis and Iupati?…. I’ll believe it when I see it.
Their offensive line will be better, definitely
but year, I’m happy that they didn’t get any impact players.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
My draft hopes:
#6-Jimmy Clausen #14-Charles Brown #60-Major Wright
by Wayward Llama on Apr 23, 2010 2:00 AM PDT up reply actions
If we don't get Lamarr Houston
Or some other D-Line help, I’m gonna be very worried about weeks 1 and 14.
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
Don't ever hope for that.
Rooting for your team to tank a season is appalling. Don’t bring that crap here.
God, another one of the Locker fetishists.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
What the french, toast?
by Wayward Llama on Apr 23, 2010 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions
I think this draft is more Schneider's doing, not Carroll's.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 9:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope so.
Just because that would mean that we have a GM doing a GM’s job and a coach doing a coaches job.
Well, Schneider has a reputation for having a good draft acumen and preparedness from Green Bay, as well as a reputation for trading down a lot.
To me, this draft smacks of being extremely well prepared were it to come down to certain scenarios, with the homework on each player in the first round being done extensively.
Could be that Carroll let Schneider do the high-majority of the work, and just signed off on Schneider’s decisions, which he would seem to support a great deal.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Completely agree.
I think Schneider had Carroll tied up in the broom closet while the recently cloned and lobotomized Carroll smiled like a goof and repeated “pumped and jacked!” throughout all of day 1.
6/14/60. Sweet.
Loved this first round.
Unbelievable we got the best OT at 6 and then the assurance we won’t reach for anybody with the best safety at 14.
Snickering at all those that howled for Clausen and Brown…in the first round.
It's not really a surprise that Clausen wasn't taken in the first round.
Most teams have their quarterback and if the bad teams (top 10 picks) decide to build a foundation before finding a franchise QB, then there are not many teams with a QB need until the beginning of the 2nd round.
However, the Tebow pick was a bit of a head scratcher.
I found it pretty surprising. I believed that he was going to in the top 10.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 23, 2010 8:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Are you **snickering**?
Clausen and Brown is not some far-fetched scenario. The draft is awesome because it can go any way. We need a franchise QB and LT, Okung was likely to be gone and Brown is a great tackle who will thrive in the ZBS. No way to know that Oakland is going to pick up McClain when they really need a LT, or that KC would snag Berry, or that Buffalo would take Spiller. Someone will get Brown for a steal now.
I’m more than thrilled with getting Okung and Thomas. Two great players that fill desperate needs.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
My draft hopes:
#6-Jimmy Clausen #14-Charles Brown #60-Major Wright
by Wayward Llama on Apr 23, 2010 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I know!
They tried to say Darrius Heyward-Bey wasn’t the best WR in the draft last year too! When will they ever learn? :P
by Mind of no mind on Apr 23, 2010 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm probably late to this
But, damn, Earl Thomas is only 20 years old. Hopefully he stays in this league for a good 10 years or more.
Yeah! Come on up to Victoria, Earl!
They even have a chain of crappy restaurants named after you.
I'm from Victoria too, but I have never been to Earls and never plan on it.
I always go to John’s Place on Pandora. I’m a fan of all their sports memorabelia on the walls.
Do they arrest people for that?
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 22, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
It's only gonna get worse, buddy...
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 23, 2010 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions
soon he will br refering
to anyone under the age of 28 as kid.
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((o))
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Yeah, wait until you hit 30 and have to listen to
people going on and on about the “geriatric” 30 year old players that need to be put out to pasture.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
My draft hopes:
#6-Jimmy Clausen #14-Charles Brown #60-Major Wright
by Wayward Llama on Apr 23, 2010 2:06 AM PDT up reply actions
You won't be chuckling in a couple years.
First you’ll think “Damn, he was right.” Ten the smirk will dissolve. Then you’ll sneeze and hurt something in your back.
(This last one actually happened to me the other evening.)
I saw that too.
I guess his family lost their home in Katrina and had to move to Houston. He came out early to help his family out.
by Mind of no mind on Apr 23, 2010 1:18 AM PDT up reply actions
So lemme get this straight:
We get two top-10 or 15 prospects. They are 20 and 22 years old. They were arguably the BPAs when we picked them. They each fill an extremely pressing need. AND they both have compelling life stories making it a lot easier to root for them.
So. Cool.
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
Anticipation for week one is killing me now
Curry-Tatupu-Hawthorne facing a O-Line with 2 rookies playing their first professional game at Qwest. The one game we’re guaranteed to have a healthy Hasselbeck for. It’s got the makings of not being a complete embarrassment
I would never guarantee Hasselbeck's health for any game.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like we can thank Schneider for this
via Carroll’s tweet:
“What a great day today… Really fun! Awesome to see GM john schneider’s system come thru in such tremendous fashion”
Just as I thought.
This draft smacked of Schneider to me.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Although the rumors that we declined trade-down offers feel a bit unlike him.
He was known for stockpiling picks in GB.
I think the players that fell at our picks were just too good to pass up.
If Thomas and Clausen or Dez were gone then yeah, he probably would’ve traded down.
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
Exactly right. I totally agree.
Why would anyone trade either the 6 or 14 when such elite-level prospects, that filled MAJOR holes in our roster, were available?
6/14/60. Sweet.
The draft sometimes does not include logic. Alualu at #10??
Surprisingly, Oakland exhibited a great deal of logic with their pick.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 23, 2010 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought so, too
But he did say that in the case that they couldn’t trade down, that they’ll stand pat and make the best choice that they possibly can. And in this case, I think they did make the best choices they could have made.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 23, 2010 8:59 AM PDT up reply actions
It's a good choice
I think I would have preferred Morgan if they wanted defense. Clausen would have been my ultimate choice.
It's also nice to know that Carroll doesn't actually have complete control of everything
I was almost convinced we were going to get Taylor Mays.
by aerozeppelin on Apr 22, 2010 9:56 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish we were...
at the top of the 2nd. Instead, we have “2 attempt Charlie.”
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 22, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions
What's his system?
Drafting the best player available at positions of need? That’s not exactly an ingenious system.
Except when you're put in that position and you start second guessing picks (or get trade offers).
Without patience and discipline to make those selections, it can lead to doing crazy things. Look at the Jags today. Alualu was an obvious reach even though he filled a position of need. He may have been the best player available at the position, but he likely would have been available for their 2nd round pick. If not, I am certain the Jags could have at least traded down 5-15 spots, got another pick or two, and still drafted Alualu.
Schneider should be praised because he didn’t do anything crazy.
Sometimes the hardest thing to do is the most obvious
There’s certainly nothing wrong with taking the smart picks, and not trying to get too fancy.
And with the 14th pick the Seattle Seahawks pick........
Dwight Howard, to help with our midget secondary. He blocks shots, he gets rebounds, you cant run inside on the guy, he should’ve been our man!
Why not root for Seattle whats the worst that could happen...........shut up Kurt Cobain
by Seatown_Sport_Head321 on Apr 22, 2010 10:01 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
With the way this draft has gone
I’m beginning to hope that the the next few rounds of the draft might fall something like this:
2nd Round (I hope it’s a choice of one of these players):
- Jahvid Best
- Lamarr Houston
- Brandon LaFell
- Damian Williams
4th round (2 picks, and I hope it’s a choice of two of these players:
- Mitch Petrus
- Jonathan Dwyer
- Toby Gerhart
- Ricky Sapp
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Jahvid Best was taken by the Lions in the 1st round
by aerozeppelin on Apr 22, 2010 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions
.. I'm tired. I'm not following?
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Traded up with Vikings with their 2nd and 4th rounder
by aerozeppelin on Apr 22, 2010 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Balls!
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 10:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Ultimately, my dream would be to get Golden Tate.
But I seriously, seriously doubt that.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 10:22 PM PDT up reply actions
And I'm happy with that.
Though, a guy can dream, right?
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 10:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I always have dreams for the Seahawks.
Every season.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Kind of reminds me where the Jets were a few years ago
They decided to draft Ferguson over Leinart and haven’t really looked back since. Two years ago they needed a QB to win and now they can win in spite of their QB.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 22, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
What about getting Brandon Tate?
I think that guy is pretty legit, and should be one of the best values in the draft.
I was hoping for Tate George.
He’s a lock down defender, and at 6’5" solves that height issue in the secondary as well.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 22, 2010 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Who is that?
What can you tell me about him?
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, Brandon Tate is a reciever for the Pats...
And the guy I meant to say was Ben Tate. I keep getting them confused for some reason. Sorry to titillate.
Ahhh.. I quite understand.
I do like Ben Tate.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2010 1:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Gerhart is going to be good. I'd love to grab him.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
My draft hopes:
#6-Jimmy Clausen #14-Charles Brown #60-Major Wright
by Wayward Llama on Apr 23, 2010 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Do we only have one pick tomorrow?
That kind of is a let down after two in rapid fire tonight. I’m guessing sometime in the 6:00 hour?
Seahawks could still trade up for an early 2nd round pick.
They have two 4th round picks.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Wonder what it'd take to get that 33rd pick?
I bet the Rams are getting a ton of offers. They’re probably going to end up trading it for some ridiculous package of picks (future first + 3rd or something crazy like that)
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
The Rams aren't going to help us, either.
If our offer and another non-NFC West team’s offer was relatively close, they’d placate that other team over ours. The
/prays
I don't know
To me the question is if they didn’t like him at 14 was it because Thomas was much better or are there some serious question marks about Clausen.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 22, 2010 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
That's so Alex Smith.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
What the french, toast?
by Wayward Llama on Apr 23, 2010 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Is it something they see in Whitehurst or something they don't see in Clausen?
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 22, 2010 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
gorgeous hair
Give me something to believe in.
by Lo Pann on Apr 22, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
It also shows that Carroll may not be fully in charge
Which is good I think coach/GM is too much responsibility for anyone in the NFL.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 22, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions
How do you think that shows that Carroll may not be fully in charge?
I don’t disagree, but I just don’t see the connection.
I think it has more to do with their grade on Clausen than getting Whitehurst.
Schnieder was part of a GB front office that jumped on Rogers (before the Favre retirement saga was in full force) and then on Brohm after both those guys slid. Plus he comes from the Ron Wolf school – who used to collect QBs as well. I just have a gut feeling that he wouldn’t pass on a QB if he truly had him rated high. Too many QB’s is a good problem – competition increases the chance of success, and the odd man out can always be flipped for future picks.
"I'm tired of chasing after my dreams. I'll just find out where they're going, and catch up later." - Hedberg
yeah but nobody
predicted Clausen to not be picked in the first or Tebow to be picked in the first.
Give me something to believe in.
Even if we still had it I don't think Clausen would fall to it.
I’ve gotta think that the Rams are getting offers for their pick right now.
Nah, I'm not on the Clausen wagon
Would rather keep all of our picks, there are still a lot of needs.
Or both.
I’m not sure you can ever have too many good defensive backs.
by Kyle Rancourt on Apr 23, 2010 1:31 AM PDT up reply actions
So, anyone else think the 1st picks were very Tim Ruskell like?
Undersized DB and I don’t think he would of passed up Okung at 6 with Berry gone.
Thomas is not undersized.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Polamalu is 5'11", 205 lbs.
Sanders is 5’8", 201 lbs.; Reed is 5’11", 200 lbs.;
Brandon Meriweather, who is a damn find safety, is 5’11", 200 lbs.
Thomas is 5’10", 202 lbs. I think I have made my point.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Those guys are still shorter than the average safety though, I'd least I think they'd be.
I’m not bagging on Thomas or saying he can’t he cant be successful, just that he’s shorter than an average DB.
Yeah, just looked it up, looks like the average NFL free safety is about 5''11.
Still seems like a Ruskell type player though.
Plus, outside of Cover 2, Free Safeties don't need to be giant thumpers.
Rob Johnson will fix our SS needs.
Meh. Not really. I think that's actually around the average size for a safety.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions
So maybe not so much of a typical Ruskell pick regarding secondary players?
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe not. I don't know, I look at the highlights and Thomas still looks like a small guy with a high motor, a little like Josh Wilson.
Don’t know if Ruskell takes him, but safety was a need and he played at a big program. Certainly a more likely pick than Mays.
which offers
haven’t heard anything about those yet
I read that too, but I can't find where.
No reports on who offered, just that they had a couple calls regarding the #14 pick. I wonder if SD and PHI checked with Seattle first, and then when Seattle refused they moved ahead to the next team up.
by Mind of no mind on Apr 23, 2010 1:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Here it is.
http://www.fieldgulls.com/2010/4/22/1438601/seahawks-allegedly-received-offers
Sounds like it was after those other teams had already traded up.
by Mind of no mind on Apr 23, 2010 2:34 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, then we can call him Mighty Mouse.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
He's not small for a safety,
but he is a little small for a Carroll safety, based on his history. Here is a list of Safeties that made an All Pro Team under Carroll in the NFL.
Joey Browner 6-2 221 lbs
Tim McDonald 6-2 215 lbs
Lawyer Milloy 6-0 210 lbs
Merton Hanks 6-2 185 lbs (light weight, but still tall)
He also got 2 productive years out of Ronnie Lott in NY at the end of his career.
Ronnie Lott 6-0 203 lbs
Although he did also coach Polamalu in college, who as you said is 5’11.
The other thing all of those guys have in common is that they all had a rep for laying the wood, except for Hanks who was a ball hawker and a chicken dancer. That’s why I really was expecting the pick to be Mays, although I’m very happy to be wrong.
by Mind of no mind on Apr 23, 2010 1:35 AM PDT up reply actions
I know it's unlikely,
but I wonder if we should still totally rule out Taylor Mays. In his two years as DC in SF, he had one of the best defenses in the NFL (Ranked #1 one year) and he had the duo of McDonald and Hanks. I wonder if it’s possible that he might try and recreate it with Mays and Thomas. Doubtful, but just a thought.
by Mind of no mind on Apr 23, 2010 1:40 AM PDT up reply actions
I've been thinking the same
IIRC, he also did the same thing in NE – duo of Milloy as the thumper and Tebucky Jones as the 1st round ball-hawk type.
Like you said, it’s highly unlikely … but Carroll does have a history of great S play in his D’s, and I’d be shocked if Babs is still starting out there in September.
"I'm tired of chasing after my dreams. I'll just find out where they're going, and catch up later." - Hedberg
Is there a later round thumper safety out there?
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
Sean Jones, but he's more of a late 2nd.
I seriously doubt that two picks in a row, that the Seahawks grab a safety.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 23, 2010 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
I was thinking later round as in 5th maybe 4th.
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
I never figured we'd be able to predict PC's picks based on college recruiting
Luckily, that was indeed the case
by Thomas Beekers on Apr 23, 2010 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions
calling him undersized is unfair
considering some of the best Safeties are smaller or at the same height.
Give me something to believe in.
He will fill out a little too
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 22, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Ruskell wouldn't have passed on Okung, hard working, big conference, and an upstanding young man.
They were “safe” picks but they also filled major holes, Thomas was the 2nd best safety behind Berry who is an elite talent. I am really shocked the Chiefs passed on Okung and figured we’d settle for Berry (I know how crazy that sounds).
It is the later rounds that make think Schneider will be better for us than Ruskell.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 22, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Yup and Okung was a 4 year starter, although it seemed like Ruskell liked the more toolsy, raw players for the O-line.
Either way Ruskell would of taken Okung, especially with Walt retiring.
Ruskell did a good job in the first round
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 22, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Branch wasn't a pick. He was a trade.
And in hindsight injuries negated his value, but then view the WR’s available when we selected him and tell me there were several you would have rather had at the time to instantly help a super bowl contender.
Cause, you know, rookies always instantly help a SB contender.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 22, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Particularly rookie WR's...
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 22, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
not in hindsight
Branch actually missed a lot of games with the Pats.
Branch games played:
13 (as a rookie)
15
9 (his injury year)
16. Then we got him.
WR’s out there:
Robert Meachem
Craig Davis
Anthony Gonzalez
Sidney Rice
(The prior mentioned below) Jarrett.
Steve Smith
Some good, some bad. It’s a crap-shoot… it wasn’t the terrible move people want to classify it, it was simply a move that didn’t work as well as hoped.
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 23, 2010 1:19 AM PDT up reply actions
r u trying 2 say its a bad thing we got okung? just because ruskell would have done it?
cuz okung is the best pick we could have made
Yes.
It’s rude to others. I don’t want to have to translate your post. It’s also rather easy to use correct grammar and spelling.
by redwolf75 on Apr 23, 2010 12:17 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I was part of the first generation to have the internet at a young age, and I can still do it.
I mean, typing is really easy. It is easy to type actual words in a very quick manner. Why did anyone ever need to shorten them? I’d love to find the people who came up with all the shorthand that is currently used online and punch them all in the face.
by BrettJMiller on Apr 23, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Typing out "haha" is short hand too, Brett. ; )
A Mariners fan in Seattle
by Coach Owens on Apr 23, 2010 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
How else am I supposed to show laughter? I think "haha" is an improvement over "lol" because it phoenetically is closer to the actual sound of laughing.
But seriously, if there was a better way, I’d do it. I just don’t know of one.
by BrettJMiller on Apr 23, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
LOL is short for "Loser On Line"
I don’t use it.
No, "haha" is short for "hahaha" of course.
Lazy son of a gun
A Mariners fan in Seattle
by Coach Owens on Apr 23, 2010 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
But what if the comment isn't worthy of the third "ha"?
Some things are hahaha. That’s some solid laughter. Some are just haha because it’s funny and had you laugh a little, but you weren’t cracking up or anything.
Now with more lemon bars!
No, solid laughter is "ahahahaha" or "bwahahaha"
“Hahaha” is just a chuckle compared to those.
A Mariners fan in Seattle
by Coach Owens on Apr 23, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Pretty sure "bwahahaha" is evil laughter.
Because the only other way to denote evil laughter is putting in laughs evily or something along those lines and that’s just cumbersome. I was putting “ahahahaha” as something akin to rofl-rolling on the floor laughing. Something so hilarious you feel the need to put more then just your standard “hahaha” in place. Anything funnier then “ahahahaha” requires some display of just how funny it was. For example, “That comment was so funny I can’t breathe anymore.”
Now with more lemon bars!
You do sure overanalyze
But I’ve always found over analysis, whether it be my own or another’s, is certain to make me chuckle. Well done good sir.
by BrettJMiller on Apr 23, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll admit,
I had a smile on my face this entire sub-thread. I find these sorts of things amusing.
Now with more lemon bars!
That and my dad is a lawyer.
I learned quickly to analyze every word I say for possible meaning. Because if I ever tried to argue with him, he’d kill me on these kinds of things.
Now with more lemon bars!
As long as you don't go ninjasocks on us....
The Seahawks have traded my signature to the Detroit Lions for a 6th round draft pick.
by SSreporters on Apr 23, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions
It's something I try to watch.
I’ve made a habit of not playing devil’s advocate because all too often it turns into an argument that serves no purpose.
Now with more lemon bars!
Good story.
My dad always killed me on grammar, etc.
Tom, Mike, Jeff and I rather than Me, Tom, and Mike…etc. Always had to speak and could not use slang, either. I’m ‘gonna’? WHAT? You ‘brought’ it? ’Brung it?" “You took it with you.”
/prays
I would constitute evil laughter as "Muhahahaha"
Not “bwahahaha”
A Mariners fan in Seattle
by Coach Owens on Apr 23, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
"Mwahahahaha"
works as well. I’ve just never heard someone actually make a “bwahahaha” sound unless they were comically trying to be evil.
Now with more lemon bars!
by Fear on Apr 23, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I believe that's because it's the English "translation"
from the “ki-ki-ki” laugh in Japan.
A Mariners fan in Seattle
by Coach Owens on Apr 23, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Then it's either "Ha!" or "Heh."
Can’t be “Ha” without the exclamation point though, because then it can be misconstrued as sarcasm.
I apologize for screwing it up for so long.
I shall change my erroneous ways. One rec to you for your help.
by BrettJMiller on Apr 23, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Oooh-ooh! I know!
In the old days it was painfully slow to transmit messages over a 1200 baud modem, so it was common to shorten everything up as much as possible.
So, I figure people who still abbreviate things must be old-timers, and are probably still wowed by this new-fangled intertube thingy. They may not realize you don’t need to minimize your transmissions.
Well, it became part of the internet lingo
and is just how a lot of people type. I know a lot of younger kids do it. In fact, they seem to take particular pleasure in coming up with new ways to shorten things or write them with numbers replacing letters.
Now with more lemon bars!
I thought that was more my generation.
You know, the birth of “1337 5p34k” and all that. I thought people had gotten over trying to abbreviate everything and make it look nerdier. Maybe I just got older, and the younger people continued to fuck up.
by BrettJMiller on Apr 23, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions
It was my generation too!
And yea, the younger kids still mess it up from what I’ve seen. Not as bad with the “1337 5p34k”, though it’s still often used in names. Instead it’s lots of misspelled words and shortenings that don’t really make a lot of sense.
Now with more lemon bars!
Honestly, it might just be because of the texting thing.
You get used to shortening everything from texting so they do it online as well.
Now with more lemon bars!
Ah, lol cat speak.
Like “I has maded a cookie for you daid, but I ated it” type of stuff? Argh. Why can’t we just go with the version of the language we’ve all agreed upon?
by BrettJMiller on Apr 23, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I actually find it worse then 1337 speak.
At least you could train yourself to read 1337 speak (though it was god awful). Lol cat speak sounds like a five year old was typing it.
Now with more lemon bars!
In high school I knew someone that loved to say that. Out loud.
And he pronounced it “pooned!”. That was painful.
Now with more lemon bars!
It's weird. I had slow-ass internet from like age 11-15 and probably typed short hand until about 13, when I realized I was making life more difficult for everyone else online.
But you may be on to something there. It’s probably a combination of that and the really young kids who see marketing in the form of “dnt txt n drve” or something on someone’s car, and get the idea to shorten things even if they wouldn’t have otherwise.
by BrettJMiller on Apr 23, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions
I think the whole new wave of text messaging on phones and stuff
has allowed it to carry on longer than it should have as well.
A Mariners fan in Seattle
by Coach Owens on Apr 23, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
For sure. I spell out every word correctly in my texts, down to punctuation.
I mean come on kids. It’s not that hard.
by BrettJMiller on Apr 23, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
Modem speeds and those of us with non-keyboard phones.
c’mon u guys lol this draft is prolly gonna b gr8!
/prays
I only know two people who type in all-caps...
And they’re both in their 50’s. I try to explain that it’s shouting, but they don’t get it. I think they’re afraid of making mistakes with capitals and whatnot, they Don’t knoW where to pUt theM.
Plus, they didn't have capitals when they were kids.
Or punctuation. I think this was all before ye olde Great Vowel Shift.
If they are that old
then ye olde Great Bowel Shift must have been mighty indeed.
Now with more lemon bars!
"lol" has gone from meaning "laugh out loud" to "I just said something."
It’s almost used like a punctuation mark now.
But at least I can understand the over-use of emoticons, abbreviations, etc., because it’s difficult to convey tone in a short block of text. I think most the time people are just paranoid that their message will be interpreted as snarky if they don’t use the “lol” disclaimer. So I try not to let it grate on my nerves.
It’s the shorthand that always bothers me – because most the time it saves 1-2 keystrokes max (and I’ve seen some that are actually more strokes than typing the proper word.) I used to tell myself I’d never be one of those “get of my lawn” cranks, but now that I’m and old fart (I’m Hass’s age!) that’s exactly what I’ve become.
"I'm tired of chasing after my dreams. I'll just find out where they're going, and catch up later." - Hedberg
It's not your house, or in this case, blog. Respect the house rules or find a new place.
Not trying to sound harsh, but that doesn’t seem like a difficult concept.
by BrettJMiller on Apr 23, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
wtf r u talking about?
jk :P
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
I teach middle school and seriosuly hate that stuff
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
The Eyebrows theory of numbers in usernames always rings true
by BrettJMiller on Apr 22, 2010 11:59 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think the bartender at the Cantina was on to something.
People with numbers in their usernames sound like droids. And, we don’t serve their kind here!
by Mind of no mind on Apr 23, 2010 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions
But, if it makes you feel any better,
this forum is a wretched hive of scum and villainy.
by Mind of no mind on Apr 23, 2010 2:05 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, I liked Tim Ruskell and am very happy with Okung.
It’s also thanks to Ruskell that we even had these two picks.
Ruskell makes the EXACT same picks.
Except maybe he takes Bulaga at 14 as well… he seemed to address areas in bunches.
The one guy I have my eye on tommorrow:
LaMarrr Houston
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
Just wanted to say congrats
You guys had a great draft. It may be luck, but it seems like the best players availble fell to your biggest positions of need. Your FO didn’t go loose canon either. It makes no sense when teams go so far off the map from what everyone else grades the prospects as. I don’t know much, but when most everyone of the experts agree that you guys filled your spots with the best talent available, I think you guys will look back at this as one of the cornerstones of a sucessful franchise.
Oh, and if Charlie Whiteguy works out
This will completely turn your franchise around. That’s more of a long shot, but you’ve got the foundation in place.
I sincerely hope you're right.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the best players fell to our biggest positions of need
mostly because we have needs in nearly every single position. But thanks anyways. I think most of us are satisfied with the picks.
by aerozeppelin on Apr 22, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions
LT is a must have if you want to win though
I had nightmares of starting the season with Locklear at LT.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 22, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm still slapping myself
can’t believe we got Okung.
Dude is a stud.
Would have probably taken Morgan at 14 just because of the losses of Kerney and Tapp, but I’m totally fine with Earl Thomas.
Get well Greg! Rip City is still behind you!
The more I think about it...
the more I think I’d prefer Morgan at 14, too. There are so many good safeties that we could have taken one at 60. I’m excited to see where we go with our #60 pick. Hopefully running back, defensive end or defensive tackle. The best value should be the pick, of course.
Unless they just want to take Zoltan the punter to go with our weird alien vibe of Whitehurst.
I liked Morgan Also
And we need both. D end and Safety, in fact we need 2 of both.
too bad our next pick is 46 players away.
the NFL draft tracker had Thomas graded at 8.7 and Berry at 8.6. Okung also graded out highest at 8.7
http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/tracker#dt-tabs:dt-by-position/dt-by-position-input:s
yea dude
Thomas seems special, we need to get some turnovers
If we could pair him with a hard hitter (one who actually makes the hit) like T.J. Ward or Cody Grimm teams won’t be able to through all over us.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 6:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd rather have Earl than D.Morgan.
Earl is/should be elite at his position. Morgan isn’t an elite athlete – polished but no elite upside with him. He might be an average DE with some decent pass-rushing ability, but never an all-pro type player. Thomas has a chance to be the best in the league at his position. More of a swing-for-the-fences pick and not the safe pick that Ruskell would have made, IMO.
/prays
I agree. I really wish we still had 40.
Maybe then we could trade up a few spots and land Everson Griffen. Then we’d have 3 1st round quality players at positions of strong need. Although to be honest, I say that without being 100% certain that Griffen is the right fit.
by Mind of no mind on Apr 23, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks.
I’m actually kinda surprised that we did get Thomas; when your Eagles traded up I thought there was a good chance you were gonna select him. Good luck with Graham though. I do think he’s gonna work out well for you, although hopefully he doesn’t take playing time away from our dearly departed Tapp.
Says something about how many overrated Tapp.
He got a cheap contract and had a player drafted to take his job.
/prays
Let's not go down that road and just enjoy the aftermath of yesterday and whoever we get today.
It’s like moving past the divorce and not bringing it up at family functions, those of us who are apathetic to whole situation cringe at the argument that ensues.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah WTF was Jacksonville doing?
Buffalo baffles me a little too, Spiller is great and I would have said take him at 14 if he were available but they don’t have an offensive line at all (not even a crappy one like us)
I wish Cops was on...
I effing love Denver too bad McDaniels doesn't own the team
I’d love to see a decade of this kind of stuff.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 6:50 AM PDT up reply actions
The Donkey fans are drinking the kool-aid today
Tebow is closer to heaven in Denver though
Give me something to believe in.
by Lo Pann on Apr 23, 2010 7:18 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Broncos fans think McDaniels is god.
The Seahawks have traded my signature to the Detroit Lions for a 6th round draft pick.
by SSreporters on Apr 23, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Uh-oh.
Now there’s going to be some Tebow locker room skuttlebutt.
McDaniels better say he’s not a god, and quickly, or Tebow will start complaining about having to play for a blasphemous heathen.
Once Denver goes 2-14 Broncos fans will be cured of their sickness.
Seriously, the entire thread there goes on and on about his college stats.
The Seahawks have traded my signature to the Detroit Lions for a 6th round draft pick.
by SSreporters on Apr 23, 2010 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions
It was really weird:
In the draft thread there was an immediate “Holy crap what have we done” followed mind-bogglingly quickly by “Well he’s a Bronco now so lets automatically love him! Our new franchise QB! McDaniels is awesome!” … It’s kinda pitiful.
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
My roommate's a huge Bronco fan
She wants his head on a plate.
Word is he doesn't do that...
until after the wedding
CBS has us taking Corey Wooton
DE could have been a 1st rounder if he wasn’t injured
Give me something to believe in.
Hm. His ACL injury would make me very nervous.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 22, 2010 11:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Prototype 4-3 end
As for the knee, this year was really his “get healthy” year. It was a “regular” ACL with no microfracture.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
He also had another injury. I knew about his ACL, but when I googled him to confirm the ACL injury, I came about some information that he also had a neck injury.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 23, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I like this pick a lot
This kid has a lot of potential. The young man is only 20.
by Pessimistic Optimist on Apr 23, 2010 12:14 AM PDT reply actions
Friend sent my daughter a Texas shirt
I thought today was a good day for her to wear it, I had no idea it would turn out to be such good luck.
If she's taller then 6 feet
I’m forcing a basketball scholarship
by Hancock.Brett on Apr 23, 2010 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Think you could have her wear it today too?
Cough Lamarr Houston Cough
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
she is already off at daycare
If we take him, we will choke it up to that picture as well.
by Hancock.Brett on Apr 23, 2010 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone else willing to grab Bruce Campell if he falls to 60 (or lower)?
He seems like, if he can get through his injury concerns, another possible Pro-Bowl lineman.
A Mariners fan in Seattle
Yes
but only because I have a thing for B-List actors and we can call him " evil dead " or " Bubba Ho-Tep "
Give me something to believe in.
I'd be excited to see what Gibbs could do with those two
Imagine what a back could do – even a bum like Julius Jones.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 6:51 AM PDT up reply actions
I have a feeling Jones will be
doing the Double J strut into the unemployment line soon
Give me something to believe in.
If we could get some one like Hardesty
This could be one of our greatest drafts ever as far as a nucleus of a team for the future.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions
It'll definately be interesting to see what happens today
if we trade up or go crazy in the 4th and 5th rounds on Saturday.
Give me something to believe in.
Especially if Butler develops any time soon.
Okung, Unger, Spencer, Whitehurst, Forsett, Hardesty, Butler, Carlson
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
Hardesty is 23.
Meh.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 23, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
OLD!!!
Wait, 23 like 23-years-old? He’ll survive his first contract, that’s all that matters with running backs (sadly.)
Isn't it?
I feel for them. It’s sad to see the RB quickly becoming a thankless position.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2010 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions
I want some sugar
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
Is that a Bruce Campbell reference?
“Gimmie some sugar baby”
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
When he makes a punishing pancake block they can put "This...is my BOOMSTICK!!" on the video board.
by BrettJMiller on Apr 23, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
So, he's gonna be a Raider?
Can you imagine the Raider games? That would be a blast! So many people are already dressed like people from Army of Darkness.
Hey guise
Jordann here from BRB
Just wanted to stop by and congratulate yall on the Thomas pick. You’re getting one hell of a safety.
Definitely better than Brian Russell.
Ha, thanks man.
I’m stoked about him. Hope Kareem Jackson’s a big upgrade for you guys over Dunta; I know he was pretty much BRB’s equivalent of BRuss last season.
Great, I didn't even think about the draft when I signed up to volunteer...
Stupid NFL.
A Mariners fan in Seattle
You're a better man then us
overall it’s better for your soul.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
My fear of the Homeless and Zombies
keeps me from being charitable.
Give me something to believe in.
and homeless zombies?
fuhgetabout it!
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Nah, I'm doing it because I need the hours in order to graduate.
(Not that I don’t feel good helping out though)
A Mariners fan in Seattle
Still in the long run...
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
You're a bigger man than I am, then.
I wouldn’t even consider doing that. Nice work, Coach! :)
by BrettJMiller on Apr 23, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
On a sad note,Walter Jones retirement
is immanent.If Okung could be 1/4 the player Jones is he will have a great NFL career.
Give me something to believe in.
It would be ever more sad if he tried to play another year.
Sucks that his last game was playing injured against the Cowboys and getting “beat” by Demarcus Ware.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
What the french, toast?
by Wayward Llama on Apr 23, 2010 7:37 AM PDT up reply actions
It's time to move on
I love Walt but there comes a point where you have to accept that age has taken it’s tool.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
supposed to be "toll"
wouldn’t speak about Walt like that, especially since I decided to wear his jersey today.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Old age can be a bitch...
but there are drugs that can revive a tool…
The NFC West got a lot better last night.
Can’t think of a division who picked better.
Cardinals – very good NT
Rams – Bradford will be very good if they can keep him upright
49ers – OL could be scary good in a couple years
Hawks – #1 tackle + #1b playmaking safety
3 shots of Jack + 6 pack of Dead Guy +
Okung + Thomas = one helluva draft night …
and one ‘helluva’ morning.
Morning gents.
6/14/60. Sweet.
Mmmmm Dead Guy
Might have to stop by their ale house this weekend
I love me some Rogue Brewery
Deschutes isn’t bad either though.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions
I love Deschutes as well
and I love that they openeded up a brewpub in PDX.
by ColumbiaRob on Apr 23, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Only thing that bugs me about Dead Guy
or any Rogue brewery product, is that it’s expensive.
It was “on sale” for $10.99.
Yeesh.
"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - Morgan
by Nick Andron on Apr 23, 2010 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, pretty expensive
You can get it on tap in the portland metro area for reasonable prices though.
by ColumbiaRob on Apr 23, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll bet. And it's tastier out of the draft, too!!!
"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - Morgan
by Nick Andron on Apr 23, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
It's the cost of running a small brewery
they don’t produce a lot but it’s the finest of the microbrews for sure.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
It's a fine brew for sure
But I’ll take me some black butte porter fresh off the tap. Porters/Stouts FTW (borrowing today’s meme).
by ColumbiaRob on Apr 23, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Mission Street
and whoever makes Fat Weasel – some brewery in San Jose – make cheap, good beers with an alcohol content of over 7%.
by BurtonOerney on Apr 23, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone else wish we would've moved back?
I don’t think we can know what kind of offers were out there, but i’m sure there were some based on the flurry of activity around that area. There’s no way we could have known Clausen would fall so far, but if we’d moved back we might have been in position to take Mays/Clausen instead. I like Earl Thomas well enough, but it seems like we could have gotten better value later in the round/second round.
No.
Earl Thomas was the perfect pick, a very young player that already plays at an elite level that will give the Seahawks a boost in their second largest hole – the secondary and pass defense.
I struggle to get past his height
If he could actually jump higher than I could, it might be different. I just get a bad feeling that he’ll get eaten up by fades and come back routes. I haven’t seen enough tape of him to know how he compensates, so I am speaking a bit from ignorance.
Some people just suck at drills.
From what I’ve read, he’s good at high-pointing the ball. I’ll have to watch a game (if I can get my hands on one) but it doesn’t sound like he looks like he needs Forsett’s stool to get to the ball on the field. And that’s what matters, right?
Mayock says he wins most battles for the ball.
The fact that he gets there quickly is more important that being over six feet.
5’11" is not short for a DB.
More like 4'23"
Actually he’s at least 180 cm. Does that sound taller?
I wanted us to be the ones to use 6 and 14 - Thomas is good, I don't know why people say he isn't a good tackler.
I’m a Texas fan and I watched any of their games that I can and he can hit, but is definitely more of a coverage guy. Look at the footage of him from the Mizzou game last year and he had a huge game against Oklahoma State this year too.
It is a little funny to me that we got Ruskell’s ideal character guys. Imagine trading 6 with Denver for 11 and Marshall now – we’d be killing ourselves. They’d just take the pick and move back but we’d have lost Okung.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I think people seized the fact that tackling is his weakness, and turned it into "he's not a good tackler."
He’s not really a form tackler sometimes, tackles more like a CB. He is young enough and athletic enough I’d bet he can improve at that area. He doesn’t have to be perfect at the age of 20(turns 21 soon), and what he does have going for him playmaking, separating WRs from the ball and breaking up passes, seems special.
Top 28
Seattle picks 28th today and the math dictates that one of these guys will be available (likely several, as I haven’t included LBs, TEs or Mount Cody).
Instead of targeting a position or player, Seattle can hold tight at 60 and take advantage of any draft mistakes made in the second (ala Jacksonville) and take a guy in the bottom of the 2nd that was worthy of a higher second pick.
Not sure who that would be, but here’s one possible list:
QB (2): Clausen, McCoy
RB(4): Hardesty, Tate, McCluster, Dwyer
DT(3): Brian Price, Houston, Linval Joseph
DE(3): Griffen, Dunlop, Corry Wootan
WR(5): Golden Tate, Damien Williams, Eric Decker, Branden LeFell, Jacoby Ford
Safety(3): Taylor Mays, Nate Allen, Chad Jones
CB(2): Chris Cook, Brandon Ghee
Guard(3): Saffold, Ducasse, Asamoah
Tackles(3): Charles Brown, Bruce Campbell, Jared Veldheer
Although some of these guys...
…might be ranked right around 60, I am sure a very good prospect will fall that will fill an immediate need on the roster.
I have to just assume that if they didn't go for Clausen last night they think he is going to fall to them
or they aren’t that sold on him. Carroll didn’t show up to his interview with Bates which seems like a red flag to me that they don’t want him. That is a good list of players available to us, I’d love to have Houston, though I am biased as a Texas fan. I don’t see us going for Chad Jones because he is more of a free safety.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
To your point...
…there are probably several players that don’t quite match scheme/need, like Chad Jones. The guards may or may not be Gibbs-type, plus I know there will be some good options in later rounds (same for safety, RB – Blount and Stafon Johnson, for example) so they might not even be considered at 60.
The d-line and maybe WR probably, but who knows? There are some players that they just might not be able to pass on.
That's not a bad crop to pick from...
I’d rather we didn’t go tackle or safety again or CB with #60. Oh man Golden Tate or Griffen at 60 would be pretty cool.
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
Nah
Expect the Lambs to natch up G. Tate with the first pick.
Cleveland is reportedly talking to them about it (along with the Bills).
Wouldn’t surprise me if they trade half their draft for that pick.
Now with more lemon bars!
Yeah that's my prediction at this point.
Need a legit weapon for Bradford.
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
My preference would be for a DT
followed by a DE. The rest of the positions seem to be for depth, which we can get later in the draft. I’d love Clausen, but the cost of moving up to get him would most likely be prohibitive.
We've been drafting for immediate need.
DT/DE shoud be next.
by BurtonOerney on Apr 23, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah.
Receiver is maybe bigger than defensive end.
by BurtonOerney on Apr 23, 2010 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
What WRs did we sign that makes you feel that we're in a good enough situation to address the RB problem?
And over-investing in your offensive line is rarely a bad thing. Especially given our expected quarterback performance.
by DrunkAmerican on Apr 23, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I didn't say that I felt we were in a good position
I am guessing that the Williams boys both signing, plus who we already had, is enough for the FO. I’d like to draft more OL also, but not until the 4th or 5th. I’d say D line or RB in the 2nd.
I am more confused about our wide receiver position...
…than any other position. Okay, so Housh is a given. But then we’ve got Branch, Butler, Obamanu, Williams, Williams, some other guys…how many receivers stay on a roster, 5 or 6? I’m interested in seeing how many and which receivers survive through training camp.
I don't think that's asking too much.
And I’d be OK drafting a big wideout with potential, as we don’t seem to need any small-fast guys—not really Carroll’s thing, and we’ve got Butler. So, our Wideouts might be Housh, Branch, Butler, Williams, Obamanu and Rookie. Not perfect, but seems like it COULD improve on last year. shrugs
and our o - line was really awful
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes but think about what we have now done
We really drafted two tackles by getting a true LT and then moving Locklier to RT where he is good. If Spenser is good again and Unger continues to develop we might quickly become pretty good.
I agree, Lock will be serviceable on the right side but would love to take a guy like Wang or Capers
and let Gibbs put him on the right side in a year or so.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Lock was actually a pretty good RT.
That’s why they moved him to LT, to see if he could handle the increased difficulty. He could not, so instead we “merely” end up with a good RT. So we could end up having a pair of very good tackles.
Now with more lemon bars!
It's the injuries that worry me
hopefully he won’t take the beating on the right that he took on the left.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions
The OL starters are set...
All we need now is depth and guys for the future.
Gibbs approved line:
Okung-Hamilton-Spencer-Unger-Locklear
How many of these guys were considered possible first round talents?
Clausen, Griffen, Brown, and Kindle before the knee problems? I’d assume that we’d go need again and pick a DT or DE, hopefully some of the top options are still available.
Golden Tate seemed to be considered close to first round talent at one point.
Saffold crept up mock-draft boards recently. Price and Mays, too. So, maybe 7 players who are hovering around the lower first/upper second range?
I’d like to see a defensive end, or to a lesser extent, defensive tackle, but am happy taking the best talent available.
He still could go early...
which would make him a “close to 1st round” talent.
I think part of that is that he isn't considered to be a no. 1 receiver
but I have no way of knowing that.
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
There are some great wide receiver prospects there.
As for running backs, I’ve heard a lot of love for Hardesty lately. What do you think of Hardesty versus Tate versus Dwyer?
I like Tate the best...
…but he is the one that is least likely to be there at 60, IMO. Dwyer completely fell out of the first round some time ago, so not sure what his status is. He might fall, and Hardesty could be there.
But as I said above, Blount and Stafon Johnson will likely be available in rounds 4-7, and may provide more value as a complement to Forsett/Jones/Rankin.
by Hawksince77 on Apr 23, 2010 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Aren't we booked up at WR?
While I like Tate and Ford, I think we have a roster full of receivers. I’m sure either of those guys would be able to bump Butler on the depth chart, but would a 3rd receiver top a need at another position? some defensive players perhaps or even more linemen for Gibb’s system.
If the Hawks
could nab WR Andre Roberts in rds 4-7 I would be ok with that.
Jacoby Ford...
…is the biggest stretch on this list, more likely a 3rd pick.
But, he was the fastest guy at the combine…
by Hawksince77 on Apr 23, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I say we draft the tire.
"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - Morgan
by Nick Andron on Apr 23, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
I like Price better than Houston.
But not by much.
by BurtonOerney on Apr 23, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I think he'll go off the board quickly
I wish Cops was on...
by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm really shocked we didn't draft Matthew Bryan-Amaning for DB.
He’s not a midget.
The Seahawks have traded my signature to the Detroit Lions for a 6th round draft pick.
Stupid. We've got Nick Reed.
The Seahawks have traded my signature to the Detroit Lions for a 6th round draft pick.
by SSreporters on Apr 23, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
What about trading up for Brian Price?
Or hold out for Lamarr Houston
Give me something to believe in.
I agree
I’m not sold that Price enough better than Houston to warrent trading away something to get him
I think they're doing the M's game this afternoon.
On-Air. The web stream will carry the national ESPN feed, and they’ll probably be talking about the draft.
"I'm tired of chasing after my dreams. I'll just find out where they're going, and catch up later." - Hedberg
Does anyone publish
“Scorecards” for the draft experts after the first round? Would love to see if anyone was anywhere close in their mock.
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