Seattle Seahawks Select Golden Tate at 60

by John Morgan on Apr 23, 2010 5:23 PM PDT

Golden Tate is a not a traditional receiver. He does not excel at running patterns or gaining separation. He has strong ball skills but so-so hands. He will not excel at the jump ball. Force Tate to become a traditional wide receiver and Tate could fail.

He is not a traditional receiver. Tate is the new receiver. He's an absolute bulldog after the catch. Tate powers through corners. He excels at screen passes and short routes. Tate can be a quarterback's best friend. The kind of receiver that takes a little and explodes for a lot. In a different passing environment, his limitations might upend him. In the new passing environment, corners playing off, physical coverage barred, spread-style offenses everywhere, Tate could be the new big thing.

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I can't express how happy this makes me

Here is the playmaker who can bust it from anywhere on the field

by stufr on Apr 23, 2010 5:34 PM PDT reply actions

Checkdown to Tate!

Hey! It’s October!

by chrees on Apr 23, 2010 5:35 PM PDT reply actions

Hands

They aren’t too soft, but they are STRONG.

by zeeehjee on Apr 23, 2010 5:35 PM PDT reply actions

Wait, what?

I mocked Tate in the first like every time. I love him. Great draft so far, im creaming in my pants. Why was I so scared? I wanted to trade a future 2nd for Charles Brown and play him at RT, move Locklear to LG or something and Ben Hamilton becomes quality depth, or Unger gets pushed to the bench and is groomed.

by SPENCEMAN on Apr 23, 2010 5:36 PM PDT reply actions

What does this mean? Gets in position to make a play but his hands sometimes fail him?

He has strong ball skills but so-so hands.

All The Way, AIRBORNE!!!

by Airborne Hawk Guy on Apr 23, 2010 5:37 PM PDT reply actions

He tracks the ball well, but his hands are undeveloped.

Lets it get into his body.

by John Morgan on Apr 23, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions

Cool, thanks.

All The Way, AIRBORNE!!!

by Airborne Hawk Guy on Apr 23, 2010 9:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions

He catches a lot with his body, rather then using his hands

by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 23, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions

PC on ESPN2 right now.

All The Way, AIRBORNE!!!

by Airborne Hawk Guy on Apr 23, 2010 5:38 PM PDT reply actions

For some reason, I have confidence in this coaching staff in finding the right ways to use Tate

by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 23, 2010 5:40 PM PDT reply actions

Amazing.

Tate is the kind of WR that haunts the dreams of opposing secondaries. He is far off from the prototype, but a plus value where we picked him.

I am loving this draft so far in general because all three of our picks have filled big needs and none of them have been reaches. In fact, I think the consensus for each of our three picks was that they would go earlier than we picked them!

by michaelfox99 on Apr 23, 2010 5:41 PM PDT reply actions

That sound you hear is the paradigm shifting

by lemonverbena on Apr 23, 2010 5:43 PM PDT reply actions

Good to know all that tape I've amassed on ND won't go to waste.

by John Morgan on Apr 23, 2010 5:43 PM PDT reply actions

The inevitable picture from the Irish Round Table graphics folder:

--Shrug
Field Gulls - The SBN Seattle Seahawks Blog

by Shrug on Apr 23, 2010 5:44 PM PDT reply actions 6 recs

I would like a touchdown... PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAASE

by djafrot on Apr 23, 2010 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions

I would like us to score 20+ points a game again

The last two years were awful for that.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Now all we need is JD.

and by JD I mean Johnathan Dwyer. He could easily be available in round 4 or 5 the way things are going (lots of guys perceived to be above him still on the board). I don’t care about his 40 time, or at least I stopped caring like ten 60+ yard runs ago. He is the perfect complement to JJ and Force.

by michaelfox99 on Apr 23, 2010 5:50 PM PDT reply actions

The problem with Dwyer's 40 time is the first ten yards.

See.

by John Morgan on Apr 23, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Which doesn't give me confidence

Unless he makes up for it by being able to blow people up in those yards

by stufr on Apr 23, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions

I like Dwyer and Dixon for big backs.

James Starks might be my favorite RB still available.

/prays

by Misfit74 on Apr 23, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions

Blount is a beast

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions

I really want Blount for selfish reasons as a former Duck. But I'd really like to see him truck Mays.

I fucking hate you Mariners

by kentroyals5 on Apr 23, 2010 10:50 PM PDT up reply actions

If Seattle ends up with

Griffen and Dwyer or Dixon this could be the best draft in Seahawks history.

by Sean Michael Patrick Gallegos on Apr 23, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions

We're already getting their I think

I am glad this is a draft we are going to look back at as the start of something special for this team.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions

I totally agree!

by Sean Michael Patrick Gallegos on Apr 23, 2010 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Your description of Tate sounds like Wes Welker

Lots of short crosses and screens, lots of action over the middle. Making one or two men miss and getting a few extra YAC. Is that a similar usage pattern we could expect to see?

Welker helps out Brady a ton by picking up a lot of 2nd and 7 or 3rd and 7 type situations.

by JeffJ254 on Apr 23, 2010 6:08 PM PDT reply actions

That is what I would expect.

by John Morgan on Apr 23, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Can his body-catching develop, hands develop?

My main worry with him is can he play anywhere but the slot and are his hands ever going to be good.

/prays

by Misfit74 on Apr 23, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Sure. He's 21.

But he will develop within his profile. Hands will never be his thing.

by John Morgan on Apr 23, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Sure many people see Tate as being like Steve Smith, WR Carolina

Like Steve Tate is small fast and makes a killing on YAC like Smith Tate burned in the 40

Steve Smith 4.41

Golden Tate 4.36

And like Smith Tate has questions about his hands when he was drafted.

If Tate gets compared to Steve Smith for the rest of his career than the Seahawks should be very very happy.

by Sean Michael Patrick Gallegos on Apr 23, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Smith is where we could develop him towards

In the near term, I see Percy Harvin. Returning the ball and getting it to him in space. He will be fun to watch. Its been a long time since we had an exciting playmaker.

by stufr on Apr 24, 2010 4:48 AM PDT up reply actions

He helps out Moss and other receivers too

their is a lot of attention paid to Welker which allows people to get open and make things happen.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Pretty sure you've got that backwards.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 23, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions

Yep it's late

but still if he works out, it is going to be bad ass to be paired with Carlson and Housh.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Absolutely. I couldn't be more excited for Tate.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 23, 2010 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions

So, are we saying goodbye to Price I wonder?

WRs are coming off the board.

by DJ C-Raig on Apr 23, 2010 6:13 PM PDT reply actions

Price to NE

/prays

by Misfit74 on Apr 23, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm thrilled with this draft so far.

by DetectiveM on Apr 23, 2010 6:52 PM PDT reply actions

I'm still so, so, so, so, so, so, SO ecstatic that the Seahawks got Tate!

Just… WHOOOOOOO!

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 23, 2010 7:04 PM PDT reply actions

Hah, just noticed that we managed to draft two of the talents you covet!

by G'd Up on Apr 23, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions

:D

It’s like watching John Carlson get drafted.. twice in the same draft!

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 23, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions

He definitely opens up things for Carlson

and Okung on the left means he doesn’t really have to block anymore.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions

Carlson was wasted as a blocking TE.

by Trojan Knight on Apr 24, 2010 1:22 AM PDT up reply actions

Still time for Freddie Barnes!

inside of a dog it's too dark to read.

by shams on Apr 23, 2010 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions

Barnes

I go to school with Barnes out here in Ohio at BGSU, had several classes with the guy, one of the most level headed hard working students I’ve ever met. I’d be ecstatic if the Seahawks got him, but I think with Tate, they won’t be drafting Barnes.

by Chimie on Apr 23, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Hey, that's actually really cool...

He looks like a team-first kinda guy. I hope they do draft him…but I moreso hope that they can also find a decent DT (I have no idea whom) and maybe an LB/Standup DE. And a running back.

by why's-guy on Apr 24, 2010 12:19 AM PDT up reply actions

With Houshmandzadeh, Butler, both of the Williams', and now Tate.. I'm not really counting on it lol.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2010 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions

But let's say that they do draft Barnes...

That’s a helluva WR competition this summer, and that would be an awesome problem to have.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2010 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions

Two of the Three Biletnikoff Award finalists can't be wrong.

Freddie isn’t the fastest, but he’s a converted QB, so he’s never really worked on speed, but seriously, the guy comes down with anything you throw at him, really good route running.

by Chimie on Apr 24, 2010 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions

Golden Tate training for the combine

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4933351

by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 23, 2010 7:51 PM PDT reply actions

Yes.

That is such a good attitude. A green flag, if you will.

by kurlare on Apr 24, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions

I saw an interview with carrol on the NFL channel

He said they’ll use him on returns and such heavily

2/3 of the world is covered by water. The rest is covered by Marcus Trufant.

by Chickadee on Apr 23, 2010 8:11 PM PDT reply actions

Someone on NFLN just said he'd be used like Harvin in the slot.

I don’t know about that. I see him more like Steve Smith (Panthers) in that it looks to me like he has the ability to play wide. He’s not tall but he’s strong and I’ll bet he’ll be able to beat single coverage all over the field.

by djafrot on Apr 23, 2010 9:26 PM PDT reply actions

Steve Smith's strength is running routes

He’s very, very good at it.

Golden Tate seems more like Wes Welker with Brandon Marshall YAC ability

by Sword on Apr 23, 2010 10:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Isn't Smith a lot faster too?

I am sure he has lost a step now but he really was fast.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 10:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Not just 40 time but over all agility and seperation on a route I mean.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Someone could say that Smith

Developed his rout running as a pro. This is something that Tate can also learn. And Tate is straight line faster than smith according to 40 times.

by Sean Michael Patrick Gallegos on Apr 23, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah I am a college FB

and I had never heard of him until he got to the pros

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 23, 2010 11:12 PM PDT up reply actions

As posted above

Tate had a better 40 time than Steve Smith. I’m more interested in the 3 cone drill time. However, neither matter all that much for game time, as separation comes from technique, too, and not just measurables. As Sean said, there’s a chance we’re looking at Steve Smith of the future, but as of right now, we’ve got a quick little project who could very likely fill a poor man’s Welker role off the bat and develop into more later.

by SeahawksFanInNY on Apr 23, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions

Here is the answer to your question

Tate 3 cone 7.12

Smith 3 Cone 7.44

Welker 3 cone 7.09 BUT Welker’s 40 time was 4.65

I dare say that Welker is more like Largent (Not that flat-out fast but very agile) and Tate with a 4.36 40 is more like Smith with agility.

by Sean Michael Patrick Gallegos on Apr 23, 2010 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Wes Welker with Steve Smith's ability to fight through double teams.

That’s how I see him.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2010 12:49 AM PDT up reply actions

Check this out!

Best draft through the first round…

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/383358-nfl-draft-day-one-grades-seahawks-are-top-of-the-class

by Sean Michael Patrick Gallegos on Apr 23, 2010 11:05 PM PDT reply actions

Bleacher Report is terrible.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 23, 2010 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions

Can you think of a team other than maybe SF

Who can say they did better than Seattle?

by Sean Michael Patrick Gallegos on Apr 23, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Hard to suck with two top 15 1st round picks.

Now with more lemon bars!

by Fear on Apr 24, 2010 2:54 AM PDT up reply actions

The last regime would have found a way.

inside of a dog it's too dark to read.

by shams on Apr 24, 2010 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions

Yet the Lions and Browns seem to be just fine at screwing up

Think how many great first round picks they’ve wasted. Raiders also come to mind.

by Chimie on Apr 24, 2010 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions

WR question

There is still a great WR on the board Mardy Gilyard if he falls to Seattle in the 4th or 5th do you think Seattle needs another WR?

Mardy Gilyard States
6’1" 187lbs
40 4.52
3 cone 6.78 (This number is SICK)

2009 season stats
Rec 87 yards 1191 TD 11

by Sean Michael Patrick Gallegos on Apr 23, 2010 11:49 PM PDT reply actions

we could use one... but not as much as a back

by michaelfox99 on Apr 23, 2010 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Not really.

The Seahawks are pretty much set at WR.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2010 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions

I see Schneider addressing another need or two before possibly taking a look at WR again.

I think DE is pretty close to being next.

So, if that’s the case, and based on what we’ve seen with Schneider at the helm in this draft, we need to be looking at tools-oriented players. That brings us to:

- Everson Griffin
- Greg Hardy (pretty solid tools, sound technique, but does have injury concerns)
- Ricky Sapp (solid tools, but rather only average best at anything besides pass rushing, where he is pretty good – a likely candidate for the elephant)

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2010 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions

From MockingtheDraft:

8. Seattle looks like early draft winner: With Russell Okung, Earl Thomas and Golden Tate, it looks like Seattle may win the premature evaluation of the 2010 NFL Draft. Each should be a rookie starter and good ones. I had Okung as the top-rated offensive tackle and Thomas and Tate ranked as the second-best players at their positions. To get Tate with the 60th pick was a coup for the ’Hawks. With six picks on Saturday, Seattle could add a few more starters and solid depth.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2010 1:13 AM PDT reply actions