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Seattle Seahawks Trade 139th Pick for Leon Washington and 236th Pick

This is awesome. My love of stocky speed backs renders me incapable of properly analyzing this pick. Give me a second.

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Ok, Leon Washington is signed to a one-year tender. He suffered a compound fracture to his fibula in week seven. That is why Washington came so cheap. Like Walter Thurmond, this is a high upside pick with a lot of risk. Well, not a lot, because Seattle traded very little, but a lot in the sense that Washington may not contribute much if anything to the Seahawks franchise. If he does, hell yeah.

What ties Washington and second round pick Golden Tate together is that both have home run potential even paired with a weak armed quarterback. In a lot of ways, by selecting Russell Okung, Golden Tate and trading for Washington, Seattle is following the Matt Hasselbeck plan for the future.

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I was just thinking, "Hasselbeck's has GOT to be loving this draft"

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2010 9:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Meanwhile, Forsett's not too happy.

Carroll’s got his Thunder in LenDale, and swapped out the Reggie Lightning for Leon Lightning

by SeaTownBlueDevil on Apr 24, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Leon Washington is crazy tough too

anyone seen the clip of the Patriots LB picking him up and dropping him on the ground and falling on him?

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 24, 2010 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

He plays way bigger than his size too

Him laying out Channing Crowder

I think it was Thomas who laid him out but he got right back up and carried the ball on the next play.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 24, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I love what Forsett did last season

With his limited playing time, I think he will get some snaps. JJ should be the one whose worried. Forsett is still young, while LenDale and Washington are not aged, but getting their. Both are great pickups, and give us great depth at RB. Solid move.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 24, 2010 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm liking the high upside picks in the mid-late rounds

Most of them don’t pan out anyway, may as well aim high.

by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 24, 2010 9:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Completely agreed.

This draft is going very, very well IMHO.

by thebyron on Apr 24, 2010 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Love this trade

Our special teams worries gotta be over anyway, but that’s just the floor.

If Washington returns to the form he had, and that is a bit of an if, this is beyond awesome.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 24, 2010 9:48 AM PDT reply actions  

This trade seems at right angles to the ones prior to the draft.

The first set of trades drove me to drink. The draft day trades have driven me to… I dunno, what’s the opposite of depressed drinking? Doing a speedball in a fancy club? Good stuff.

by Kingdomer on Apr 24, 2010 9:49 AM PDT reply actions  

It really was liquidation to acquire picks in a deep draft

who knew guys like Gillyard and Chancellor would be available so late.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 24, 2010 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

How do you have the stones...

To get back the seventh rounder? … Ok Jets we’ll take Leon Washingon off your hands but only if you thtrow in a 7th rounder…How?

by Hawqz on Apr 24, 2010 9:54 AM PDT reply actions  

Because the Jets know he isn''t amy good anymore

The Jets paid us to take him off their hands. PC should know better than to accept candy from strangers. If it is too good to be true, then watch out.

by blazerbill on Apr 24, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Simple, and John already addressed it.

Leon Washington is on a one-year tender. When you realize the Jets have their two HBs in Greene and LDT, and they are looking to dump a player coming off a really bad injury, that is still rehabbing. Until he fully recovers they don’t know that he’s going to be the same.

by cashless on Apr 24, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Leon probably won't be 100% at that point.

His bones will be healed, but his lateral quickness and conditioning will probably not be where he’s used to.

I’d expect Forsett and White to start with as the tandem, with Leon breaking in as a KR/PR at some point, and working his way back on the field. If Leon is good by then, we’ll only be better for it.

by cashless on Apr 24, 2010 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

True - at least based on USC, Carroll loves to have a lot of backs on the roster

which works well for Gibbs because he considers backs to be part of the line, all of these guys are tough and hard runners, I’d say even Jones, he’s just not very good.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 24, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Joe McKnight is better, should have got him instead

That is why the Jets were willing to trade and let us have Washington. If we wanted a RB, we could have had McKight. Intead we get an old used injured throw away RB. Bad Pick by the Seahawks

by blazerbill on Apr 24, 2010 9:59 AM PDT reply actions  

He did turn water into wine

so quit with the sour grapes…

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 24, 2010 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

He doesn't walk on it

He charms it into moving around him

by stufr on Apr 24, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

He can run over it sometimes

but that could be the pumping of the arms that gives him lift.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 24, 2010 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.

More than because of anything you’ve ever said, you lose all credibility because you spelled Kool-Aid wrong.

by SeaTownBlueDevil on Apr 24, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've been one of PC's harshest critics over the offseason

But this draft has been awesome by any objective means imaginable.

Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?

by Benne on Apr 24, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

27 passes for old these days?

Well shit, I’m gonna be gettin up there soon…

by Steeeve on Apr 24, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Don't agree their friend

By grabbing LenDale and Washington we have a wide variety of backs, power, speed, and it will be hard for teams to try and figure out our running attack.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 24, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

Think maybe Carroll knows a thing or two about McKnight, Sunshine?

by Hawkdawg on Apr 24, 2010 10:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Sorry, I don't wear seahawk colored glasses.

I am an objective fan. Sorry to be the bearer of truth

by blazerbill on Apr 24, 2010 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

But you're not

Washington and a seventh for a fifth round pick is a huge steal.

by John Morgan on Apr 24, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

even if it is not a steal it is a good deal

Washington is a great return man and a proven runner, McKnight is a prospect with ball security issues.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 24, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, that's a laugh

Relentless negativity /= objectivity. It’s just the opposite form of wishful thinking.

by The Ancient Mariner on Apr 24, 2010 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

The funny thing is that everyone in NY is thinking they got the steal of the trade!

I guess the NY org doesn’t know what they are doing. That is why they were in the playoffs

by blazerbill on Apr 24, 2010 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe this is a good deal for BOTH teams

I certainly like this pick, and essentially turning Washington + 7th rounder into McKnight is a nice gamble for the Jets. They already got Green and LT2, so it’s a low risk pick that might not even play that much this year.

Leon Washington WILL contribute for us, however.

by J.L. White on Apr 24, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Both teams have a reason. Jets were in a pinch and the Seahawks benefit.

by John Morgan on Apr 24, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

It's not great.

I wouldn’t be happy if I were the Jets.

by John Morgan on Apr 24, 2010 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or a Jets fan

but the organization probably felt like it had to move Washington.

by John Morgan on Apr 24, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

They may regret losing Thomas Jones

Dude seems to get better every year….fuck, he’ll probably rush for 2,000 yards when he turns 40!

by J.L. White on Apr 24, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Getting a deal for a guy you wouldn't be able to keep is a good deal for them

sometimes good deals benefit both teams, trades do not always have to winners and losers.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 24, 2010 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Really?

Because over at the Jets SBN site it doesn’t seem like they’re thinking that at all. The comments are mostly along the lines of “I understand why the F.O. did it but I’m sad to lose him.” See here, here and here.

by thebyron on Apr 25, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, yeah

I think we can see the plan on offense coming together; with Forsett/White/Washington as the RB committee (in whatever order — I’ll be curious to see how they wind up mixing/matching those guys), as long as Okung is in camp early and the line has time to jell, we ought to have a strong running game; I’m assuming they know how they plan to use Tate, and with TJ and Carlson, if even one of the Williams brothers turns out well for us, we should have enough weapons to put together a pretty good offense even without inspired QB play.

The question I have is, how are they going to fit the D together? I wouldn’t be surprised if we have two rookie starters at safety, and I’d be fine with that; depending how Thurmond comes back, we may have fixed the secondary, more or less. I really wonder what the lineups and scheme are going to look like for the front seven, though.

by The Ancient Mariner on Apr 24, 2010 10:01 AM PDT reply actions  

One small move people seem to forget is the addition of Baker at TE...

…not a huge deal, but two pass-catching TEs really helps the QB and the offense as well.

by Hawksince77 on Apr 24, 2010 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah.

I’d forgotten about that.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed our O seems set

And our defense is going to go through some changes, but I think we have the pieces to make this work. This makes it harder for me cause I’m also a Denver fan, so I’m not looking forward to the Denver-Seattle game.

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 24, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Committee

I posted a long post elsewhere but will summarize it here. Thomas Jones = Justin Forsett, Shonn Green = LenDale White, Leon Washington = Leon Washington. Our RB situation is similar to the Jets last year.

by SPENCEMAN on Apr 24, 2010 10:03 AM PDT reply actions  

LenDale doesn't remind me of Shon Green

But then again White has lost a lot of weight….and he has a cool last name (smiley face emoticon).

by J.L. White on Apr 24, 2010 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

In terms of their responsibility

Thumper, goal line back, which is what Greene played early in the season.

by SPENCEMAN on Apr 24, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

He caught a lot heat for coming into the league and thinking his talent would allow him to dominate

by all accounts since then he has grown up and been a hard worker.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 24, 2010 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lets hope we can immitate their success

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Apr 24, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

We will sometimes they are willing to make a deal with a new organization

He had an idea that the Jets should pay him a lot more than he is worth.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 24, 2010 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Except that...

…Washington needs to have a pro-bowl season this year (like he expected last) in order to earn a huge contract.

If people are right here, in that he won’t be 100% at the beginning of the season, it’s unlikely he will be all that impressive (although I expect him to contribute).

And that’s another thing to remember: Tate, Thomas, Kam, etc etc are all young guys (especially Thomas) so they will predictiably struggle next year. But what about the one after that? It looks like we are building towards a really nice future, and Washington perhaps has his best year in 2011.

Hasselbeck, Baker are the only aging players that will be trending towards the end of their effectiveness over the next couple of years, whereas the bulk of the roster should be getting better. (Maybe I add Trufant to that list.)

by Hawksince77 on Apr 24, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Ohhhhhhhhhhh yeah. This makes up for no Spiller.

The Seahawks have traded my signature to the Detroit Lions for a 6th round draft pick.

by SSreporters on Apr 24, 2010 10:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Has anyone noticed that our division rivals Days 2 and 3 haven't been as good as Day 1

The Rams are doing a good job but honestly there is no way they couldn’t.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 24, 2010 10:13 AM PDT reply actions  

We are reaping the benefit of the Tapp & Sims trades, and (perhaps) Carroll's inside CFB knowledge

We’re gaining players while keeping the same number of picks, and still getting talented guys as well. I am feeling good today.

by J.L. White on Apr 24, 2010 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't expect us to address this position at all

Force and Jones as a tandem weren’t great but would be “good enough” for next season paired with a UDFA surprise like Johnson, but I really like this.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 24, 2010 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

A 4th rounder NEXT YEAR

Al Davis obviously has taken his anti-crazy pills this week.

by J.L. White on Apr 24, 2010 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. I can't believe I'm about to say this, but:

Great move by the Raiders.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I need to find some Listerene.

by thebyron on Apr 25, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK. 10 picks until us.

Please, let Dwyer or Starks fall.

/prays

by Misfit74 on Apr 24, 2010 10:51 AM PDT reply actions  

He's still available?

Holy shit.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

I woke up at 6 am and just fast forwarded to Seahawks picks :)

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2010 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

other needs and Johnson is the guy

We probably asked for him because he and Johnson seemed tight.

I wish Cops was on...

by Generzal Zod on Apr 24, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nope they went with Rusty Smith

Who wants a QB with the name “Rusty?” That’s like taking a Left Tackle with the name “Tiny.”

by J.L. White on Apr 24, 2010 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Me too!

I came into today expecting more O-linemen picks.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Damn, I wanted Hardy

I don’t know who I want anymore

by Stormton on Apr 24, 2010 10:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Who are the BPA at this point?

I want us to get one of those guys….we’ve done a good job drafting for need so far.

by J.L. White on Apr 24, 2010 11:00 AM PDT reply actions  

I think the Seahawks will continue to draft for need.

That’s been their M.O. all day today.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps.

But the logic stands that if you still have a lot of needs, and your M.O. all draft long has been to draft for need, then changing strategy doesn’t make sense.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying change strategy

Easpecially at this point. We can stay on need because the players left are a crap shoot

by stufr on Apr 24, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow. Dallas likes big guys.

Sam Young is 6’8"….needs to put on weight though.

/prays

by Misfit74 on Apr 24, 2010 11:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Fuck.

Mitch Petrus was taken. Gr.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2010 11:15 AM PDT reply actions  

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