Seattle Seahawks Select Anthony McCoy at 185

by John Morgan on Apr 24, 2010 11:43 AM PDT

Right off, I don't care if Anthony McCoy smoked, smokes, fiends for or has a six-foot double-perk named Bongzilla for marijuana. Don't care. Don't care. College kids smoke. NFL players smoke. Maybe it's a problem for some. Maybe Ricky Williams freaked out because of it. It's so insignificant it's not worth sweating.

McCoy is a good blocker and a good receiver. He's an excellent athlete. His ability to gain position against overmatched defensive backs made him a deep threat, but he's more likely an underneath guy at the professional level. Right now, he's still a little raw. Of all things, he struggles timing his release with the snap. He will sit behind Chris Baker and learn and earn his wares. Whenever he's ready, he could be very good. As good an overall tight end as anyone in this class.

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Why do they call hands hands? I mean, why not feet? Feet seems more appropriate for something like your hands

by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 24, 2010 11:46 AM PDT reply actions

I'd call them fives.

by John Morgan on Apr 24, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions

I agree, if they kicked out all the NFL players that smoked weed, there might not be enough players to fill a team

He looks like he could be a good special teams player while he learns.

by Coug1990 on Apr 24, 2010 11:57 AM PDT reply actions

It would be Tim Tebow and Kurt Warner throwing interceptions to each other.

by Kevaru on Apr 24, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 8 recs

Well played. Rec.

Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 24, 2010 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Nice.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Sam Bradford, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, RB Jonathan Dwyer. Top-10 [5 for 7].

by Misfit74 on Apr 25, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions

I love this draft.

What do you guys think about Osi? What would it take to get him? Is it worth it? Does he fit into the new scheme?

by SPENCEMAN on Apr 24, 2010 12:02 PM PDT reply actions

The Heater.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Sam Bradford, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, RB Jonathan Dwyer. Top-10 [5 for 7].

by Misfit74 on Apr 25, 2010 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm not sure I'd do that.

Osi is going to be 30 and is coming off season ending surgery to repair cartilage in his knee. I can’t find where I read it but I’m pretty sure defensive ends age similarly to running backs. And judging by the way Carroll has handled the defensive ends so far I doubt he’d want Osi.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 25, 2010 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions

You make sense. I didn't know Osi was almost 30 and had knee issues.

Early prospect watch: RB Mark Ingram, QB Jake Locker

by Misfit74 on Apr 26, 2010 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions

This was a Carroll pick and a hell of a value.

We have picked up legitimate talent at nearly every position either through draft or trade. I know some wanted a starting QB but I would like to see what HassleHurst can do with the new weapons.

by Trojan Knight on Apr 24, 2010 12:06 PM PDT via mobile reply actions

You should break out that USC-Notre Dame game John

He had his best game of the season there. 5 catches for 153 yards.

by Kevaru on Apr 24, 2010 12:19 PM PDT reply actions

That's the Tate burns Mays twice game, too, isn't it?

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Sam Bradford, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, RB Jonathan Dwyer. Top-10 [5 for 7].

by Misfit74 on Apr 25, 2010 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions

I love the pick

Now lets take Capers and Selvie/Lang in the 7th and lock it up!

by Stormton on Apr 24, 2010 12:21 PM PDT reply actions

"They call 'em finger, but I never see 'em fing...

Oh, there they go!"

by DJ C-Raig on Apr 24, 2010 12:22 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

Ricky Williams freaked out because he has a severe anxiety disorder

But yeah, they don’t call it dope because it makes you smart. Smoking weed before the combine isn’t smart.

by lemonverbena on Apr 24, 2010 12:36 PM PDT reply actions

It's smarter than during the combine.

by Kevaru on Apr 24, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

But not smarter than AFTER the combine

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions

For a player that's a depth pick

It might not matter all that much if he smokes, gets caught, and gets suspended. But if he were a starter, that’s a different story.

Talents that I covet:

Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes

by Carl Shinyama on Apr 24, 2010 12:43 PM PDT reply actions

I'm not bothered by the fact that he smokes

but more that he lacked the self-control to get himself clean before he was tested. If we used the logic that just about every college kid smokes, then everyone else got themselves clean. He’s a great pick-up, but I guess you have to question his self-control and smarts.

by Sonic Boom on Apr 24, 2010 1:15 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

Sure, but if that allowed Seattle to draft him at 185, awesome.

by John Morgan on Apr 24, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions

He might have thought he did stop long enough.

I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.

by wadswerth on Apr 24, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions

again, back to the thinking part - might not have the mental tools

by Sonic Boom on Apr 24, 2010 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Totally agree.

I could care less what these guys are doing in the offseason as long as they aren’t hurting anyone, but I worry about guys who don’t have the common sense to get it out of their systems before it’s time to perform.

It seems like common sense would dictate regularly smoking pot would hinder your performance, at least with regards to your lungs if not other medium-term side effects. Anyone who’s smoked more than a couple times has experienced the morning-after grogginess that follows a big night of smoking, so I don’t get why someone would partake when milliseconds of difference in reaction time means a difference of millions of dollars in compensation.

by bocious on Apr 24, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions

Its ridiculous that pot is considered an issue (suspendable, etc.)

If he’s showing up to the combine high, well that’s one thing. But looking at him in that picture and video, I don’t think the pot has impacted his fitness. He looks like an absolute monster of an athlete. In a dream I believe I was that cut, then I came down to reality.

by illwillbli on Apr 24, 2010 1:47 PM PDT reply actions

The tide is definitely turning on the whole legality of the "righteous herb"

but it is still pretty dumb to have it in your system when you know they are going to test

by Sonic Boom on Apr 24, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions

As well it should be.

The laws regarding marijuana in this country are [long, rambling and only semi-coherent rant of a post deleted due to violation of the no-politics rule….and due to sneaking suspicion that the author was stoned out of his gourd at the time.]

by thebyron on Apr 25, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

If he truly has a problem with substance-abuse, teams have to take it seriously, regardless of the substance, including alcohol.

It’s not a matter of legality so much. The risk is that you have a career like Reggie Williams or Matt Jones. The consequences could be an underachiever and/or problems, as well as suspensions. It’s further questionable behavior in that players know they’re getting tested at the Combine. If you can’t stop for that, a chance at your future and huge sums of money, then what does that say? It’s a bigger red-flag when your future is at stake and you blow it like that.

I hope he can put it behind him. I think teaming up with Carroll could help him find the right path.

Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Sam Bradford, OT Ciron Black, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, RB Jonathan Dwyer. Top-10 [5 for 7].

by Misfit74 on Apr 25, 2010 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Actually it is a matter of legality

Or rather NFL rules. If pot wasn’t on the banned substance list then honestly, the worst-case scenario guys like Williams and Jones wouldn’t factor. “Occasionally” smoking pot is less negative to your athletic ability than “occasionally” drinking. It’s more the fact that it’s a banned substance.

And indeed that the kid still smoked it pre-combine.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 26, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions