Assessing Need: Linebacker
Hawthorne is likely a starting outside linebacker but also the primary depth of Tatupu. Hill played inside at Clemson and could be Seattle's emergency Mike. It's a fluid position.
Linebacker
Starter: Lofa Tatupu
Age: Turns 28 November 15.
Health: Declining.
Contract: Seahawk for life.
Performance: Declining.
Starter: Leroy Hill
Age: Turns 28 September 14.
Health: A little worse every season.
Contract: Five years remaining.
Performance: A little worse every season.
Starter: David Hawthorne
Age: Turns 25 May 14.
Health: Good.
Contract: One year remaining, RFA.
Performance: Green, but promising.
Depth: Will Herring
Age: Turns 27 August 28.
Health: Good.
Contract: Two years remaining.
Performance: Very good cover, can shoot a gap, but lost in a pile.
Depth: Matt McCoy
Age: Turns 28 October 14.
Health: Good.
Contract: One year remaining.
Performance: Incomplete.
Position need: McCoy was an under the radar signing that likely will not result in much, but has interesting upside. If McCoy can get his life in order and accept coaching, the former second round pick has talent. Hawthorne and Hill are similar players. Hill is a tougher inside presence and much stronger against the run. He probably has better blitzing ability too, but Hawthorne is no slouch. Hawthorne is a little better if a little more undisciplined in cover and so far quite a bit healthier. Seattle has a ton of talent, but not a ton of depth. Herring could rotate with Hawthorne, but should not regularly start. McCoy is a bit boom and bust. Tatupu and Hill are injury concerns, especially Hill, and Hawthorne is still unproven. Seattle needs to add depth, perhaps one or two players that will stick on the roster, but it does not need to invest heavily into that depth.
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He had a really good 2nd year and was thought to become a starter and then he pissed it away. I wonder if knows this is his last chance. He can play special teams and assuming that no one is hurt for too long he is a good option at depth.
At least we aren't the Raiders?
by Generzal Zod on Apr 9, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I just thought of this crazy silly scenario:
Tatupu and Hill get injured (hang with me here!:), forcing McCoy into action. We draft Gerald McCoy and Colt McCoy. Whitehurst sucks, Hasselbeck gets injured: voila, you’ve got three McCoys playing at the same time. An announcer’s nightmare….The only question from there is which guy is the real one?
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
I'd be like a bad western
fortunately Tatupu and Hill never get injured.
At least we aren't the Raiders?
Are you calling Tatupu's performance "declining" just because of his age?
or are you concluding that his decreased production last year was about not just his excessive bulk but something else as well?
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
His performance just declined, that's all.
I don’t think John’s saying the decline is inevitable… though a word like “decline” suggests that, certainly.
Tatupu certainly has seemed underwhelming in recent years, whatever the reason.
I’m hoping he reclaims his star linebacker form, but I’m starting to wonder if it’s gonna happen.
Two reasons, in my opinion:
One: the bulking up. It’s slowed him down.
Two: defensive line play. Simply enough, he was great when Tubbs was causing havoc in front of him, since then he’s had trouble scraping off linebackers. If only Tubbsy was still around.
Tatupu came out of college already as an extremely polished linebacker
It wouldn’t be surprising if his first several years are his best, because his age and injuries are certainly becoming a factor in his performance.
He also came out and was a superstar in his first year
He really had nowhere but down a little. It is probably a little more apparent because of his injuries and poor play along the d-line.
At least we aren't the Raiders?
by Generzal Zod on Apr 9, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!
We acquired a starting caliber outside LB with 2 years experience at defensive end for nothing!
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d81767d19&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI
Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!
Juries still out on Alan Branch
while Red Bryant is a “fumble”?
Hmmm….
by aerozeppelin on Apr 8, 2010 10:10 PM PDT up reply actions
I think fumble is a bit harsh for a guy who is not very good
At least we aren't the Raiders?
by Generzal Zod on Apr 9, 2010 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
more importantly
they list Lawrence Jackson as a linebacker… I believe he played DE in college and in the pros… I dunno I could be wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI
Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!
by jubelthebear on Apr 9, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
That's pretty funny.
Anyone in the NFL will tell you it takes three years to judge a draft. With that in mind, we asked analyst Bucky Brooks to take a look at how every NFL team fared over the last three years.
With that in mind, why would you be judging the 2008 and 2009 drafts right now?
by Mind of no mind on Apr 8, 2010 11:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder how Bucky Brooks got his job
he’s as intelligent as Tim Tebow is atheist.
They conveniently leave out how the 49'ers and Cardinals acquired all of that "elite talent"
by picking in the top 10 for the past what, 5, 6 years? Seattle spent several years drafting in the 25+ slot in every round.
Also missing: Brandon Mebane….again.
Also getting more undeserved attention: Steve Breaston. Let’s see how good he is without the defenders glued to Fitzgerald and Boldin, and getting thrown at by Matt Leinart.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
The Arizona Cardinals' plan for success:
-Lose all talent on team to retirement and free agency.
-Call it a day.
by Wayward Llama on Apr 9, 2010 3:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, they're grading is a bit random.
They completely ignore all our late rounders cept Force, and don’t mention young contributers like Schmitt, Herring and Butler. Plus they think Bryant has failed at being the star that everyone expected the 4th round pick to be in his first 2 years.
What I can say is this:
It’s a good thing that as Seahawks fans we don’t have to rely on analysis like that. I’m happy to remain spoiled by what we can only find here at FG’s. It’s almost a fantasy vs. reality comparison. The reality is that we get a good bit of Seahawks truth here, which is why this is the best place I’ve ever found to learn about our team.
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Sam Bradford, OT Ciron Black*, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling**, RB Jonathan Dwyer
How's this for a theory: Tatupu's decline coincides perfectly with the league putting a headset in the defensive captain's helmet
Tatupu was on the record as ‘hating’ it when it was introduced. And it may be nullifying some his natural instincts for the game.
Some people just don’t thrive when they’re micromanaged.
I’ve been thinking of this for a while. Does this theory have any merit? Health is always a factor too of course. As is the bulk-up.
hadn't thought of that - sounds reasonable
At least we aren't the Raiders?
by Generzal Zod on Apr 9, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
That could definitely be true
But of course all this (bulking up, health) is kind of speculation. The past does tell us that health would slow him down, and logic tells us that bulking up would slow him down too, but do we really know what makes Tatupu click? No. But that doesn’t mean it isn’t fun wasting our time trying to figure out!
I've thought about that.
I hope that if it really does affect him, someone else would wear it.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
The Arizona Cardinals' plan for success:
-Lose all talent on team to retirement and free agency.
-Call it a day.
by Wayward Llama on Apr 9, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
This seems very unlikely.
If it was a problem, they would give the headset to someone else like Deon Grant. The headset certainly did not tear his pectoral or cause him to be injured most of 2008.
He's like a whale near a naval base.
Lucky we don’t have to play San Diego very often.

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