Seahawks Mock Draft: Drafting for Need
The premise of this draft is to perfectly match order to need. No trades. Simple. Let's go.
6. Safety: Eric Berry: Pete Carroll has strong connections to Lane and Monte Kiffin, and the two have signed off on Berry in a major way. Carroll seemingly favors larger safeties, but let's give the guy a little credit and assume he might adjust his system to the modern NFL. Berry is a cuticle beneath Ndamukong Suh on my overall board. Kid looks special-special.
14. Left Tackle: Charles Brown: Seattle reaches a little to get Brown, but there is a sizable drop off in talent after Peanuts, and though I am not crazy about Brown's game, he has the capability to be an excellent left tackle in Gibbs system. Now, can someone light an inferno under his ass?
60. Guard: Jon Asamoah: Not sure Big Jon is fiery enough, but he is tools-wise an excellent prospect for a zone blocking scheme.
104. Wide Receiver: Blair White: Look for Schneider to mine the Midwest. He grabs his second talent from the interior in White. White is big, something Seattle seemingly favors, and his eye popping three cone drill reminds me of Greg Jennings.
127. Defensive Tackle: D'Anthony Smith: Atkins and Jones might still be on the board, but Smith hails a new beginning for Seahawks fans. It's been a while since tools were paramount and small school prospects were in play, but Smith is a high upside tools pick for a team that doesn't need an immediate starter, but could greatly use a talent upgrade.
133. Safety: Kam Chancelor: Seattle selects Taylor Mays the lesser at a fraction of the cost. Chancelor needs bumpers to keep him from careening into the gutter early, but his downside is a pretty good gunner. Could be a decent safety if he develops great read and react.
139. Quarterback: Levi Brown: Seattle selects the Charlie Whitehurst of this draft, drafting the strong-armed Brown. He will need time to mature, but Seattle has bought him that time. Good production and great upside, but marginal chance of reaching it.
176. Corner: Syd'Quan Thompson: Thompson is all burst and no speed and must play in a zone heavy scheme, or, more accurately, a scheme that keeps the receiver in front of him, but he is agile, athletic and skilled. Could be a steal to a team dedicated to giving him deep safety help.
245. Linebacker: Reggie Carter: Carter is an undersized inside linebacker that has some experience blitzing and could contribute on special teams. A long time ago, USC recruited Carter, but Carter did not develop like many hoped. He could play inside in a pinch and not be a mess against the run.
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Levi Brown would be even worse at QB than he is at tackle.
UFC is to Larry Fitzgerald as Strikeforce is to Plaxico Burress. One is the most dominant in their league, while the other shoots itself in the midst of progress.
Levi Brown:
Baddest man in the whole damn town. Our token dirtbag?
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This seems like a pretty good mock draft
I think QB is slowly out of the question so selecting Berry at #6 seems likely. However, with Tapp gone and Kerney being Kerney would it make more sense to draft a DE in the later rounds? Unless you’re mocking based on the premise of moving Curry to end.
UFC is to Larry Fitzgerald as Strikeforce is to Plaxico Burress. One is the most dominant in their league, while the other shoots itself in the midst of progress.
But it just feels wrong to spend #6 money on a safety
He would already be paid like a top 3-4 NFL safety
I say there is a strong possibility that Berry goes to KC at 5
So this whole discussion may be moot.
Is it #6 money worth it for a guy who provides ball skills and leadership to the defense?
I think Berry is going to be good for a long time, it locks up that position and he could be the defensive face of the franchise.
At least we aren't the Raiders?
by Generzal Zod on Apr 10, 2010 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Drafted at #6, you're banking he turns out that way.
And from what I’ve read, it sounds like he should.
I'm totally for spending that money on a guy
Who is perfectly assignment correct and STILL makes huge plays.
I agree..
I am going to be upset if we don’t end up with a blocker, passer, or pass rusher with the #6.
by michaelfox99 on Apr 11, 2010 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
I will not cheer for a guy named D'Anthony
Syd’Quan however, I may name my first child after (boy/girl/hermaphrodite doesn’t matter).
Well, everyone names their kid Syd'Quan...
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Sam Bradford, OT Ciron Black*, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling**, RB Jonathan Dwyer
Way to conform, Kevaru.
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This looks surprisingly appealing.
I wouldn’t have thought I’d ever approve of a safety at 6. Teams like the Ravens, Steelers , Indy and the Jets, though, all have an elite safety in common. Taking the tackle guard combo would make me feel a little better about our offensive line emergency. Hmm.
Wouldn't it make more sense to go OT at 6, S at 14?
We could get a better OT than Brown with 6 and not quite reach, then get Thomas at 14 without reaching so much.
I guess the question is, if we’re playing this game, what’s more of a need, OT or safety?
Shit, I didn't think about the USC thing.
Good call. Duh.
Besides, I am already planning on having a yellow jersey made ala Schultz's Charlie Brown!
Now, who would be Snoopy?
by Trojan Knight on Apr 9, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I would be
Highly upset if the FO took Brown over with the 14th pick. Sure he may a perfect fit, but taking Brown at the 14th pick is a huge reach, especially if Spiller is still on the boards. Sorry even if Spiller isn’t on the boards, Brown is a wasted pick at 14.
What he's saying is that Brown is a reach at 14
Which I’d agree with, considering he’s ranked the sixth best tackle. That doesn’t mean he’d be a good fit with the team, though.
I think it would be great to trade down a few spots and get Brown.
We all seem to talk about trading as if we could just decide to do it and...do it.
But it’s not like the Seattle FO can just call their team of choice and get a good to debatable deal. Trading down just cannot be something you bank on. Unless you’re the Seahawks and will let other teams fleece you routinely.
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by Cheddar28 on Apr 9, 2010 10:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
hmm... "I think it would be great"
Who around here says it’s automatic? Who says we’re “banking” on it?
The point is that at 14, he probably wouldn’t be taken by anyone else. So if you can move down a few spots and maybe pick up a 4th or even a 3rd, that’s gold.
Not saying anyone is banking,
just that expecting the Seahawks FO to is unrealistic. I guess what I’m driving at is to warn people against being disappointed if we stay at 6 or 14 because Q/PM could be doing everything in their power to take maximum advantage of this draft and not come up with a viable trade-down.
But yes, I agree with you that a move down would be gold.
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Ok we agree on that.
Ideal scenario for me would be able to trade down with both first rounders, get clausen and Charlie Brown. Net a third and a fourth as well.
I am certainly ready to be disappointed, however.
by djafrot on Apr 10, 2010 11:18 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Samesies.
A lot of the top 15 scenarios out there give us players that seem to be a reach or inappropriate given our existing scheme and personnel (i.e. Trent Williams or C.J. Spiller at 6, Mays or Brown at 14). Pretty much the only players I would be truly excited about at six (as opposed to “meh,” or just resigned to) are Berry, McCoy, Suh, Bradford.
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Completely agree. Those are the 4 to get excited about.
At 14, I would be thrilled with Earl Thomas (if Berry is not there at 6), or Haden, should he fall.
Other than that, Spiller and an OT, both reaches (although I could get a little excited about Spiller at 14).
I dunno if I like the idea of another 1st rounder at CB.
But Thomas, Spiller, top 3 OT, Dan Williams, or Clausen would excite me at 14. Mays, Brown, Morgan, or Iupati I would just be ok with.
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They get fleeced on people they don't value or have usefor
But I don’t think Carroll is the type not have use for a draft pick.
At least we aren't the Raiders?
by Generzal Zod on Apr 10, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Understandable
And I expect that with such a knowledgeable community. But having see Brown play at USC I can safely say I am not sold on him being a 14th pick. At least without calling him a huge reach.
It probably is a huge reach...
…but I don’t see a good alternative.
Anyone after 14 (that would be 60, barring a trade of some kind) seems way too risky for such an important position, and 6 way too high and no good options (I don’t believe) there.
So what to do?
That means Seattle takes...
…the third OT with the sixth pick (after Okung and Bulaga), right? Man, that’s gotta suck. I’d rather take the 6th rated LT at 14, one that is a better fit for the system, then the 3rd one at 6. Especially if I can get one of the top players in the draft at any position — Suh/McCoy/Berry/Haden/Clausen/Bradford — instead of the 3rd best in a mediocre LT field.
Totally agree.
We must come away with one of the top 6 at #6 (or get equal value in a trade), and take a risk with #14. I’d prefer to trade #14 for a later first and more. It’s possible NE might be interested in moving up, and they are loaded.
Are there any gems in the rough...
…at LT later in the draft? Wang, for example?
I really don’t know. If there is any way Seattle can get out of the first without needing to draft an LT, great. Lots of good uses for that pick. I just don’t see it.
I suspect we have a few surprises in store for filling our OT needs.
I could totally see us passing on first-round offensive linemen altogether.
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Sam Bradford, OT Ciron Black*, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling**, RB Jonathan Dwyer
Me too.
Mostly because Gibbs believes he can turn anyone into a NFL lineman. Which worries me, because Gibbs made his name doing what he does before his type of linemen were recognized as being useful. Now teams go after those guys, making it much harder to find late round talent that fits his scheme. We’ll see.
Now with more lemon bars!
I can hear it now:
“Jared Allen, pushing hard off the right edge slips Wang and explodes on the Quarterback”
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Sam Bradford, OT Ciron Black*, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling**, RB Jonathan Dwyer
Do you know how many good jokes could be had if he can "penetrate" the defensive line
Jared Allen just got a face full of Wang.
Look at Wang stiffen up and blow throw them.
With a good push from Wang, Forsette was able to…
At least we aren't the Raiders?
by Generzal Zod on Apr 10, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
It could get to the point where visitors to this site...
think they’ve stumbled into the Oxygen Channel website—
with all this focus on Wang…
Gems in the rough
usually aren’t seen. Haven’t you seen Aladdin? “I must FIND this one, this diamond in the rough…”
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But he does find him
Are you saying we should hire Jaffar for our scouting team?
by Thomas Beekers on Apr 10, 2010 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Brown's not gong anywhere 1st round
Bryan Bulaga or Trent Williams with the 6th, Derrick Morgan or Taylor Mays with the 14th. -badda bing, badda boom, unless Gerald McCoy is there.
every time I see Jimmy boys face like him less
yea dude
Wait, he's not going in the first round at all?
As in, teams like Green Bay who need an offensive tackle desperately, and a tackle who fits their scheme (like Brown) is available late in the draft, they’re going to pass on him because his name is Charles Brown, or what?
It's not bad
but it still leaves me terrified of our QB situation and with nothing to hope for. Oh well, I guess I have to be resigned to another two years of mediocrity at best.
Now with more lemon bars!
At least we haven't spent any signifcant money on it
We spent just a little on decent potential. If it busts we still didn’t spend much and we aren’t destroyed. We have money to spend on the 69 other positions that are weak right now.
Yes but it's hard to build a franchise through buying free agents.
Much easier to draft talent, then use your money to lock them up.
Now with more lemon bars!
Maybe cheaper and the better way to go, but not easier
Its much more likely that you do your homework and bust on a draft than doing your homework and busting on a proven comodity. We haven’t exactly done that with our QB, but he has proven a work ethic at least. I’m grasping, but its all I’ve got.
I'm really hoping this is the first of several consecutive drafts that show us why we hired Schneider and Carroll.
I’m hoping that drafting is their strength.
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Sam Bradford, OT Ciron Black*, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling**, RB Jonathan Dwyer
That is why I haven't freaked out yet
I think Carroll is going to be good at drafting and this is the place where Schneider takes a back seat. Green Bay has also drafted really well.
At least we aren't the Raiders?
by Generzal Zod on Apr 10, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
It's extremely hard to find enough quality talent in free agency to build a team.
Especially since the skill positions almost never make it to free agency until they are past their prime. And it’s impossible to be able to afford it. Teams are built off the cheap draft players, they simply can’t stay under the cap if they heavily invest in free agency. Hell, look at the Redskins. They make a big splash every free agency, getting the best players available. And they’ve completely failed to be anything better then mediocre.
Now with more lemon bars!
Big splashes and big names do not equal good free agency moves
There are lots of moves every year that are middle of the road names that end up being big contributors, or middle of the road names who stay middle of the road names, but when you collect a bunch of them they are able to raise the overall teams performance. Its all about how you spend your money. Big money on rookies is a huge risk. Middle money on mid level talent guys can have good payback.
Well of course.
I’m saying it’s impossible to build a team primarily through free agency. I’m not saying free agency is worthless or should be ignored. I’m also saying teams can be primarily built through the draft. The early picks have far higher upside then anything you can get out of free agency, and generally they are cheaper. And it’s the only place you can legitimately hope to find franchise players (someone like Brees is the ultra rare exception, and he was still considered a huge risk).
Simply having lots of money left over for free agency means nothing, usually it just gets squandered on players on the downside of their careers.
Now with more lemon bars!
I'd rather the Cardinals draft him. If everything is in place we could have Levi Brown blocking Levi Brown.
UFC is to Larry Fitzgerald as Strikeforce is to Plaxico Burress. One is the most dominant in their league, while the other shoots itself in the midst of progress.
I don't see how Whitehurst wouldn't love playing with Wang,.
UFC is to Larry Fitzgerald as Strikeforce is to Plaxico Burress. One is the most dominant in their league, while the other shoots itself in the midst of progress.
but don't all guys really want the world to know that they have a big Wang?
At least we aren't the Raiders?
by Generzal Zod on Apr 10, 2010 3:31 PM PDT up reply actions
We must draft him so we can have the Wangblocker.
UFC is to Larry Fitzgerald as Strikeforce is to Plaxico Burress. One is the most dominant in their league, while the other shoots itself in the midst of progress.
No RB in there.
Who do you see getting most carries next season? Half and half?
Top two picks make perfect sense.
As far as Thomas at 14, I keep seeing mocks where he is taken sooner.
My draft source has Thompson going in the 3rd round (you have him at 176) and Blair in the 6th (you have him at 104) so not sure if those are reasonable picks, or if my source is plain wrong.
Finally, I had this notion that our three 4/5th round picks would be the place to find these Gibb-type guards. I don’t know who that would be, but if possible that would leave 60 available for a better player.
I could see E.Thomas going as early as the Browns at 7.
Provided Berry is gone, of course. The trade for Sheldon Brown doesn’t lock them into a corner anymore (Haden). Otherwise, Jacksonville at 10 is another spot that makes sense to me.
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Sam Bradford, OT Ciron Black*, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling**, RB Jonathan Dwyer
I like the first three picks
Asamoah looks really good and could probably start. I like Berry, he makes our secondary way batter and we have to bring someone in. If Berry is gone I’d say pull the trigger on Clausen especially if they could work it out to get an LT and G at 14 and 60. Brown looks good and I don’t think he is a reach at 14. I’d rather have an LT than a RB. Every year there are good RB’s and WR’s that that come out and can be had in the first or second round, it seems like a luxury pick to me. I know we need a receiver but I wouldn’t mind seeing someone big like Stafon Johnson or LaGarrette Blount
Maybe it is Pacific Northwest love but I’d like to see Te’o as a Seahawk but we need a DT more.
At least we aren't the Raiders?
I'd be awfully happy with this draft.
I expect there to be another late round guard taken though, maybe instead of Levi Brown or Carter.
Chuck Knox would agree.
There’s something to be said for one or two high picks and a bunch of lower guys. Knox, though, would probably draft 5 guards and tackles in the fourth to seventh rounds and wait to see who shakes out.
Which really isn't a bad idea
except for roster space issues.
Hell, it’s a good idea for any position (including QB) if you need one position badly and are ok at everything else.
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I would be willing to bet good money that...
Seattle doesn’t go the entire draft without picking up a running back.
RBs you can plug in and they face very little transition time from college.
Our team isn’t in any kind of contention next year, so waiting to grab a RB next year or the year after makes a lot of sense.
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offensive linemen, too... or so it seems.
I’m all for not reaching on a back or an offensive lineman.
Too bad this year is a year in which those positions seem to be easy to fill. At least we need both. Yay for intentional flexibility!
Depends on your view of development
It could be argued that, even if you’re not in contention, a minimally-functional offense is necessary to keep itself on the field so players can learn more. Offensive linemen supposedly play better after they’ve worked with the same line neighbors for a time, too.
And of course, a quality left tackle is vital to the health— and therefore development— of your quarterback.
That is, if you have a developing quarterback with upside potential.
Who doesn’t run around the line and throw himself ribs-first into an opposing defender.
I don't disagree...
Just saying I would be shocked if they don’t take a RB at some point in the draft
Syd'Quan would be a steal that late
At Cal, he dominated WRs. Physical against the run. BTW Cal prospects are always steals right Boller? Jk Mebane unbelievable. I still want Alualu.
What about Iupati at 14?
Not a reach, still on offensive lineman with tackle upside, worst-case scenario is probably a good, mean, hole-creating guard.
I completely agree with Berry at six. I don’t think the ‘Hawks are going to be very good next year, so we should just get the best players you can and rebuild. Do we really think protecting Charlie Whitehurst’s backside is going to get Seattle to the playoffs?
From what I've seen I love Iupati.
But, he is more of a mauler, power-blocker type, rather than an athletic ZBS player. He isn’t a good fit for our scheme. I’d be happy if someone could convince me otherwise.
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Sam Bradford, OT Ciron Black*, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling**, RB Jonathan Dwyer
I would actually be pretty happy with that draft
Good mix of offense and defense, although I’m not sold on Levi Brown, necessarily.
I would be thrilled with this draft, But......
You don’t see running back as a need? Its a huge need in my oppinion. At least a later round pick on one
Came in expecting to be disappointed by this draft but would be very happy with it.
Also a die-hard Hawks fan.
The discussion in this thread confuses me a bit
If I’m reading it right, John, you just ranked position by need and then picked players in that order, right? Some of the “wouldn’t it make more sense if…”s confuse me.
I was actually thinking of asking you to rank your positions by need after those pieces, but I guess it is: SS-LT-LG-WR-DT-FS-QB-CB-LB. I’m actually surprised to see no (standard) DE or RB in there.
So, I understand you made this list on a sortof BPA for biggest need order
but just curious – if this is how the draft actually ended up going, would you grade this draft an A+ (assuming that trading wasn’t able to be done, of course).
I don’t know if what I’m asking is making sense.
I would like Brown just so we can call him Peanuts
and say good grief when he misses a block.
A Mariners fan in Seattle
It's the Playoffs, Charlie Brown!
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An alternative OLT pick + trades that have been discussed.
TRADE #6 W/Philly for 24, 37 & 70
TRADE #14 W/Green Bay for 23 &56;
Resulting in the following picks: (WOW)
23, 24, 37, 56. 60, 70, 104, 127, 133, 139, 176, 245.
23= Golden Tate, WR; or trade for B. Marshall, WR and get back a 4/5-th. Rounder.
24= Rodger Saffold, OLT; (plug and play)
37= C. McCoy, QB; (developmental QB, and a potential QB of the future?? Maybe??)
56= V. Ducasse, OL; (plug and play where needed on OL)
60= Burnett, S; (plug and play)
70= G. Atkins, DT; or Houston, DT; (rotational DT or plug and play)
104= Ben Tate, RB; or: L. Miller, RB (plug and play)
127= D. Brisco, WR (rotational WR or plug and play)
133= Petrus, OG; or: Newhouse, OG (plug and play)
139= J. Cunningham, DE; (rotational DE)
176= R. Johnson, S (developmental safety)
245= N. Carroll, CB (developmental CB)
Results: 3 – OL picks, 2 – DL picks, 3 – DB picks, 2 WR picks & 1 each at QB, & RB.
Jim Q.
I can't see anybody doing those trades
Both of those scenarios would have to include draft picks next year. Probably the biggest pieces of them would have to be draft picks next year. Most teams will be hesitant to give up their first rounder this year, because they already like players that they see, but they might give up next years. Giving up one of our 1st rounders for someones 1st round next year and this years 2nd round is more likely.
Our 1st rounders are too high.
We’d need a lot more then just a 2nd rounder. Unless the 1st round pick we got wasn’t much of a move back (but the trade backs he detailed involved moving way back).
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That's exactly what I did on Madden
I am so excited I’ll let you know next week when the 2011 season ends how it goes.
At least we aren't the Raiders?
by Generzal Zod on Apr 11, 2010 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
FWIW, as the rumors and smokescreens continue, this one does have a grain of sense to it.
Mike Lombardi of the National Football Post is “hearing” that the Seahawks intend to draft a left tackle at No. 6 overall.
“Maybe Trent Williams of Oklahoma,” Lombardi goes on to say. Williams, of course, would have to make it past the Redskins at No. 4 and Chiefs at No. 5 to be available for Seattle. He’s considered a good fit for a zone-blocking scheme, which both Washington and the Seahawks will use in 2010.
Early prospect watch: RB C.J. Spiller, QB Sam Bradford, OT Ciron Black*, DT Gerald McCoy, S Eric Berry, DT Ndamukong Suh, CB Ras-I Dowling**, RB Jonathan Dwyer
What makes Williams a better fit for ZBS than Bulaga or Brown?
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by Generzal Zod on Apr 11, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
This is my question as well.
I’ve watched an aggregate couple hours or so on Okung, Williams, Bulaga, & Campbell. Haven’t really looked closely at Charlie Brown yet, but Williams was the least-ZBS fit, to me.
I’ve got more of an opinion about more players, this year, than ever before. Many of them are quite a ways off from the consensus, too, so I am going to be learning a hell of a lot about my own views, this year and as these careers roll out, that’s for sure.
Back to Williams, though, this ZBS fit has surfaced in a handful of places, but seemingly only this week or so. It’s new to me, and I wonder why its changed. Because Sooners ran a spread? I don’t get it.
by jacobstevens on Apr 12, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Somewhat off-topic, but the asking price for Marshall may have just taken another hit...
Santonio Holmes has been traded to the NY Jets for a measly 5th rounder, per CNNSI.
Now, Brandon Marshall is much better than Holmes, but not the difference between a 1st and 5th rounder. Please don’t overpay, Seattle.
This was exactly my first thought regarding that trade.
I feel that there’s no way Marshall gets traded for a 1st.
Talents that I covet:
Ndamukong Suh, Gerald McCoy, Sam Bradford, Mike Iupati, Golden Tate, Earl Thomas, and Freddie Barnes
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 11, 2010 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions
What I'd like to see happen
6th pick (traded to the Denver Broncos for the 11th pick overall, pick 127, pick 139 and Deon Branch for Brandon Marshall)
11th pick Trent Williams OT
14th pick C.J. Spiller RB
60th pick Brandon Ghee CB
104th pick George Selvie DE
133rd pick T.J. Ward S
176th pick Brandon Carter OG
245th pick Stefon Johnson RB
John, what do you think Kiffen has told Carroll about Jonathan Crompton?
Isn’t he kinda Whitehurst-like?

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