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Six Snaps with Chris Clemons

At the time of Darryl Tapp trade, I thought Chris Clemons was a throw-in, perhaps initiated by the Eagles. He was a career backup, passed around the league, habitually injured and signed to a somewhat burdensome contract. Even on a team that is as defensive-end crazy as Philadelphia, five-years/ $12.6 million is pricey for a situational pass rusher. Mid-tier contracts given to mediocre talent is one way to get into cap trouble.

So it's with some surprise that I deliver this news: Clemons is pretty good.

San Francisco travelled to Philadelphia with their playoffs hopes on the line. This was a slow-burn blowout. The 49ers never exceeded 50% win probability and the "time of knockout" was early in the second quarter. A couple more quick notes: right tackle Adam Snyder sucks and so does Alex Smith. You heard it here first.

Clemons played special teams for the Eagles. Hopefully he won't for Seattle. He's good but he's a starter now. Whatever it takes to keep him healthy, keep him healthy.

2-D.Akers kicks 58 yards from PHI 30 to SF 12. 84-J.Morgan to SF 29 for 17 yards (91-C.Clemons).

Clemons is a good all-around athlete and runs like linebacker but is thick like an end. He separates, squares and tackles.

6-J.Nedney kicks 74 yards from SF 30 to PHI -4. 39-Q.Demps to PHI 18 for 22 yards (47-B.Miller).

He misses his block and his assignment becomes the player that tackles Quintin Demps. Clemons is right there to help him up.

1-10-SF 27 (5:50) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete deep right to 46-D.Walker.

First traditional down Clemons is in on, and the Eagles break in an untraditional formation.

SF: WR (left), 2WR (right), RB (right), TE (right), Shotgun.

PHI: 5-1

The defensive line is set: XXXX----X <--This being Clemons.

One thing I notice is that Clemons prefers a four-point stance. I hope he's not married to that. Nothing happens here. Clemons gets a decent jump off the snap, attempts a narrow edge rush and is blocked out by Snyder. Then he's out for a long time.

3-9-SF 40 (3:41) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right (24-S.Brown).

Same drive.

SF: 3WR (left), WR (right), RB (left), Shotgun.

PHI: 4-2

The front six looks like this:

----LBLB----

XX-------XX <-- This being Clemons.

Eagles overload the left, blitzing Joselio Hanson and dropping the left inside linebacker and left defensive end, Clemons, into cover. He's well-matched for a zone blitzing team, tools-wise, but doesn't look very confident in cover. Glen Coffee trips escaping the backfield and that leaves the 49ers a man down. Smith flexes into his infinite drop back of yore. He throws towards the right sideline and Clemons breaks towards the ball, but is nowhere near.

(Many plays later)

3-9-SF 36 (7:36) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right intended for 85-V.Davis INTERCEPTED by 22-A.Samuel at SF 46. 22-A.Samuel to SF 28 for 18 yards (68-A.Snyder).

SF: 2WR (left), WR (right), TE (right), RB (right), Shotgun

PHI: 4-1

Nothing fancy. Clemons substitutes at right defensive end.

Superb jump, about as good as possible, followed by another tight-angled edge rush. He beats Snyder back, separates and inspires Smith to throw towards Vernon Davis. I say inspires instead of forces because in typical Smith fashion, the pass rush isn't anywhere near as threatening as he interprets it. Asante Samuel breaks man cover on Josh Hill and cuts underneath Davis for the leaping interception.

(Later)

2-D.Akers kicks 69 yards from PHI 30 to SF 1. 84-J.Morgan to SF 23 for 22 yards (91-C.Clemons).

Good square and contain by Clemons and a solid shoulder tackle on a leaping Morgan.

(Many plays later)

3-13-SF 37 (2:25) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short middle to 85-V.Davis.

SF: 3WR (left), WR (right), RB (right), Shotgun

PHI: 2-3

Two ends, three standup players in a bunch two to four yards off the line.

----91------

----X--X----

X----------X

Something like that.

Clemons starts four yards deep and aligned defensive right. He loops around and rushes the right guard. Some push. Some presence in the scrum. Some hand fighting.

(McNabb throws a bad pick.)

1-10-SF 20 (:44) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short middle to 21-F.Gore to SF 27 for 7 yards (22-A.Samuel).

SF: 2WR (left/right), RB (left), Shotgun.

PHI: 4-2

Clemons gets a good jump, spins inside, separates from a disoriented Snyder and forces Smith to roll right and outlet to Frank Gore.

(Next play!)

2-3-SF 27 (:36) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short middle intended for 21-F.Gore INTERCEPTED by 52-T.White [75-J.Parker] at SF 34. 52-T.White to SF 29 for 5 yards (62-C.Rachal).

SF: 2WR (left/right), RB (left), Shotgun.

PHI: 4-2

----LBLB----

XX-------XX <-- This being Clemons.

Juqua Parker is playing left defensive tackle. Adequate jump, edge rush, Clemons is halfway around Snyder and grasping towards Smith. Smith steps up and into pressure by Parker. He heaves the pass. Interception.

That's it for the half. Second half tomorrow. The kid looks alright.

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Clemons would occasionally play what Jim Johnson called “the joker” position. Where a defensive lineman would line up as essentially a middle linebacker. It appeared to be a role he enjoyed.

As for his time in Philly, there’s not a lot to point to. He didn’t play a whole lot. He was used very much as a situational player. He’d have games where he was really active, but then he had many where he would be completely absent. His first year here he looked like a complete bust and did next to nothing for most of the season, but then went on a nice run later in the season where he played really well over the last month or so. I actually think he was named defensive player of the week at one point.

That last half of 2008 appeared to be a tease though as he never got to that form in 2009. Actually, the game against San Fran was easily his best of the season. There were long stretches of last season where it was hard to remember he was even on the team. He did make a few plays on special teams through the year.

He wasn’t very good in 2009. Made very few plays, fell down the depth chart, and struggled to make any impact. However, in that last half or so of 2008 there really was something there.

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by JasonB on May 25, 2010 2:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Good news on the defensive line, finally

Like most of us here, I was flabbergasted by the Tapp trade. But I’d much rather have an above-average pass rush and a below-average run defense than the other way around.

A good run defense is better than a bad one. Obviously. But it’s a more tolerable weakness:

 At 10 yards/pass, it takes only 8 plays to move 80 yards, and you need three stops in a row to end the drive. At 5 yards/carry it’s going to take ~15 runs to move the the same distance, giving your defense a lot more opportunities, and only requiring 2 stops in a set of 3.

by Jason_D on May 25, 2010 2:52 PM PDT reply actions  

I wasn't at all flabbergasted by the Tapp trade

But I was underwhelmed by what appeared to be a Clemons “throw-in”. This assessment helped to alter my perception of Clemons. Thanks. It will be interesting to take another look at him once he is in his new position and blitzing more often then he has been used to when preseason rolls around.

11 weeks until preseason starts.

by Kevaru on May 25, 2010 3:03 PM PDT reply actions  

I've been assuming that Leo is 2-point, but does anyone know?

Has there been variance, or only 2-point?

The Eagles’ big hole in the center alignment is interesting. How often is that used? Is it used more against an anemic yet shotgun offense like the 49ers? Or one or the other? What must its advantages be? Aside from better edge contain and pass rush. I wonder how vulnerable it is to the inside zone run? Or are they not so vulnerable because they have a couple good tackles?

by jacobstevens on May 25, 2010 4:09 PM PDT reply actions  

If Clemons is pretty good, and if we're using him well and smartly

that might be the best news of the offseason outside of the draft.

by jacobstevens on May 25, 2010 4:10 PM PDT reply actions  

There are a lot of competing possibilities...

including the Williams receivers, the trades DURING the draft (do they count as draft?) among others.

But yeah, it’s nice to start feeling optimism!

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by Tyler Jorgensen on May 25, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

So many stories...

Hass vs. Whitehurst vs. Losman

White/Washington/Forsett/Jones/Schmitt

the Williams kids

Okung

Thomas

Tate: at WR and returning punts

the possibly 3/4 new secondary

a second year for Curry, now as a situational pass-rusher

does Deon Butler turn out?

what will Gibbs’ o-line be like?

what about this 3-4 Leo defense thingy?

by djafrot on May 25, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Curry will be on the field almost every down, I would expect.

I’m interested in seeing Tate return some punts. Strangely enough, he profiles somewhat similarly to Burleson…explosive and not the greatest hands. I hope the stories of Tate showing good hands is true.

I"m also excited about Deon Butler.

Dual Leo’s, perhaps? Sounded like Clemons and Curry could bring the heat a la Harrison/Woodley or Spencer/Ware (I know, let’s not get carried away) like the pressure-heavy 3-4 teams do. I can’t wait to see it unveiled.

Red Bryant: surprise us!

by Misfit74 on May 25, 2010 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

He does profile similarly to Burleson.

But with more fight for the ball. I am excited to see Tate with the ball in his hands this season.

by cashless on May 25, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

John, are you not as worried about the pass rush now

It seems like with the right scheme ahving Clemons and Curry both rushing has a chance at being effective. It still might not be our strength, but it may appear that way, given the improvement in the secondary.

by stufr on May 26, 2010 4:36 AM PDT reply actions  

gotta love the caddy shack references...

I want a hot dog, I want a cheeseburger, I want a piece of pizza,……………. YOU WILL GET NOTHING AND LIKE IT.

by Seahawks4life on May 27, 2010 1:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not John but

One would figure the effectiveness of our pass rush will depend not just on how much we get out of the Leo spot, but in almost equal amount on how much pressure Curry can produce out of the Sam. Especially if we put a heavier gap-plugger in at LDE on a lot of downs.

Will Curry be an effective pass-rusher next year is perhaps even a bigger question in the above than how well the Leo does, especially since the Leo’s production will likely hinge at least partially on pressure from the LDE and/or Sam. That’s a big question mark at the Sam tho’, I honestly find it hard to even guesstimate how well Curry might do.

by Thomas Beekers on May 26, 2010 4:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not as concerned as most about the pass rush

With the improved secondary hopefully offering up several coverage sacks. Also, sack or no sack, every extra second that the secondary forces the O-line to protect they will wear down.

And speaking of worn down, with a new O-line and improved RBs and well, a wholesale improvement on offense, I expect our defense to get more than 3 plays off before they go back on the field this year. Fatigue was a major factor in their sucktitude last year.

by hazbro24 on May 26, 2010 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wondered that towards the end of the season

Was the D playing bad because:
A. They sucked
B. They gave up
C. They were worn out
They just didn’t seem to have anything after halftime during the second half of the season.

by stufr on May 26, 2010 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

3 and outs are demoralizing to defenses

They get a stop, they’ve done their job, and then the offense goes out and lays an egg.

Now they’re back on the field, in worse field position and feelings of helplessness ensue. You can’t stop the other team all day, and if your offense can’t score, what’s the point?

So I would say B + C

by hazbro24 on May 26, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Towards the end of games last season they were always just walking on to the field

I think A could be changed to weren’t very good at key positions to begin with and if you add B + C you get the disaster that was last year. Injuries never help either.

Good bye Big Walt.

by Generzal Zod on May 26, 2010 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

It won't be our strength but let's hope it is better than last year

New formations will sometimes give a team a shot in the arm if they can be successful early in the season. I think having SD early will help – Turner never has his offense going then.

Good bye Big Walt.

by Generzal Zod on May 26, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm hoping the schemes are very creative

a la Denver making the most of Elvis Dumervil, etc.

I could def see Chris Clemons playing like Dumervil, but the schemes will have to be near brilliant to achieve that kind of production.

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on May 26, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

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