Exceeding Modest Expectations Does Not Make Chris Clemons a Capable Starter
Chris Clemons was in for eight snaps in the second half. It was more of the same save for one Alex Smith induced sack. I won't share all the gory details, as I'm a little strapped for time today, but let's discuss Clemons potential and his place on this team.
For the second straight season, Seattle is attempting to take a role player and turn him into a starter. Last season, it signed Colin Cole and turned him into a starting 1-tech tackle. Cole had been a situational run stuffer. He performed acceptably well in that capacity for Seattle. He wasn't gassed. He didn't suffer from greater snaps. Cole was a one-dimensional player that helped Seattle improve its run defense.
The problem was, Cole was a cipher as a pass rusher. He didn't collapse the pocket. He didn't disengage. He couldn't track or wrap a quarterback in space. Cole displayed the exact same skill set he always had, and Seattle was a worse team for starting him. It was down a pass rusher.
Clemons can rush the passer. He isn't terribly agile, but he is quick and when he can time the snap just right, he can edge rush pretty effectively. Against the 49ers, Clemons played mostly left defensive end, but occasionally rushed the middle out of a standing position. He shared this role with Jason Babin. It's not a demanding position. Right tackles are slower, less skilled and less agile. One does not have to be a terrific edge rusher to turn the corner and create some havoc - especially when it's your only job.
It's good that Seattle squeezed a little more value out of the Darryl Tapp trade than I assumed. It's good that Clemons has some talent and skill and, if he stays healthy, should be able to contribute. It's difficult to see how Clemons can capably man a starting end position. He's lanky and lean and Philadelphia used him almost exclusively on passing downs. He's raw in cover. Clemons is quick off the line and active, but he played 14 snaps with long rests between. Will he show that same quickness and fight after being pancaked on a run? And he will be. Clemons will suffer runs directed his way. Seattle will have a soft corner off left end.
I guess I'd rather the Seahawks attempt to harness a situational pass rusher than a situational run stuffer, but thrusting both into regular action seems like a formula for failure. Luckily, Clemons and Cole are just two players. The linebackers and strong safety can pick up some of the slack for runs directed at Clemons. Clemons can pick up some of the slack created by Cole's inability to rush the passer. There's no way this line will be good or even average. If anything, it will be a wonder if this configuration remains intact all season. It looks untenable. It won't cost Seattle the season, and it won't determine if Seattle has a capable defense or not. But with this line, capable is about as optimistic as my expectations can be.
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Capable is very optimistic, yes
And there’s no way the line doesn’t affect the play of the rest. Curry’s development while mopping up? Young secondary players asked to do too much? Sure it’s true that it “won’t determine if Seattle has a capable defense or not”, but surely you agree with me that it’s one hell of a handicap to take in to the season.
Blah.
Let’s hope a talented LB corps and an improved secondary can help carry some of the load.
"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM
Too many holes
I suppose when you have as many holes as the Seahawks did entering the draft (partially due to the new FO’s own moves pre-draft), you can’t fill them all. You address as many needs as you can based upon talent available and hope that you can stick enough fingers in the dike at the remaining positions to avoid crippling the team overall.
Defensive line and quarterback seem like the positions that fit that category heading into this season. The frightening thing is that those are perhaps the two most important positions on defense and offense respectively. This season will be a success if those are the only two positions of glaring need following this season. It will be a wild success if somehow QB and DLine perform at league average.
I have more faith in our QB situation than I do our D - Line
We couldn’t move the ball last year. Matt is so streaky if he can be protected he can still be good or at least I hope. I think his leadership could really carry this team.
Good bye Big Walt.
by Generzal Zod on May 26, 2010 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions
The hope I have is that this new scheme utilizes the skills Clemons has and hides his weaknesses
It still seems like this defense will rely on taking advantage of having Clemons already upright and trying to mask where he is coming through. I still can’t figure out the differences between the Elephant and the 3 – 4, other than having a standard 4 – 3 DE on the other side. Mebane is good at taking up space and occupying bodies hopefully that is plan for Cole.
Our defense won’t be good but hopefully our offense can score and keep us in games. 3 and outs kill the initiative of a defense. Sometimes playing to preserve a lead covers a lot of holes.
Good bye Big Walt.
I hope for average
I think good would be way too optimistic, even for me. Average sounds great right now.
Secondary improve will help the pass rush, assuming they improve.
Having an average offense would be the biggest improvement for the D.
Red can save the day!!!!
Ok maybe not but it does make alot of sense for them to try and use him in run situations. That said, even Jemarcus Russell could read that defense.
That's asking a lot of Jamrcus Russell
Good bye Big Walt.
by Generzal Zod on May 27, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
How about a combo?
Clemons on passing downs with Red on First Down and short yardage?!?
Non-traditional in regard to Red, but interesting to consider at least. I’m okay with Lawrence Jackson’s full time mediocrity, being adequate though not good in either run or pass situations, as long as we maximize the other side and get creative with Curry/the LB’s in general. (Goes without saying adding the DB’s to the creative attack scheme).
Bird Law in this country isn't governed by reason.
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 27, 2010 2:24 AM PDT reply actions
That's what I suggested on the earlier Clemons thread
Seems to make sense, but what do we know. Clemons in on passing downs, Red in on obvious rushing downs. Also, given Red’s length, he could bat some balls down in passing situations even if he has trouble getting to the QB.
Eagles fan here
I promise I’m not trying to stir the pot, but Chris Clemons is basically useless. As a situational pass rusher, he’ll also be expected to play on special teams, and he was easily the Eagles’ worst special teams player last season. After 2 weeks, he racked up 4 penalties on special teams, 1 of which gave the opponent a first down when he jumped offsides on a punt. It should have been 5, but he got away with a blatant block in the back on a DeSean Jackson punt return TD. (Video of the penaties included in the link below).
The Eagles had to take him off regular special teams duties because he couldn’t be trusted. I say this with true sincerity – You should be hoping he doesn’t make the team.
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2010/5/20/1480803/a-detailed-look-at-the-eagles
Formerly Bye, Dawk :(
Thanks for the warning
Not cheerful news, but at least I’ll be less disappointed if he stinks and more utterly thrilled if he doesn’t.
Wanna trade back? Clemons, Branch, & Hasselbeck for Tapp and Weaver?
No, of course you don’t.
C'mon, his nickname is Church Van.
It’s like you don’t even know him!
by DJ C-Raig on May 27, 2010 11:38 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions

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