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2009 Season Retrospective: Will Herring

Will Herring

Lowlights

Rams at Seahawks September 13

Lance Laury shoved David Roach aside and speared the football from Donnie Avery's grasp. The ball caromed to Will Herring and he fell on it for an easy recovery. It was all easy. Seahawks recover on the St. Louis 19.  Without hardly an effort, their win probability shot up to 65%.

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3. Will Herring shot the gap and shot past Steven Jackson. Seattle swarmed and finished the tackle, but Herring needs to learn when to slow down and square before lunging at the ball carrier. Thankfully, Lawrence Jackson was there to contain and slow Jackson and Darryl Tapp streaking from the opposite end to tackle him.

Seahawks at 49ers September 20

3. At the snap, Curry and Will Herring read run and rush the line to control their gaps. Every 49er but Josh Hill stays in to block. Ken Lucas stays with Hill.

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6. Herring is lost in the pile. For good measure and without a better assignment, Heitmann piles on, tracking him into the scrum and shoving to the ground. Staley pulls out and blocks David Hawthorne.

Bears at Seahawks September 27

Aaron Curry broke contain on one play and Will Herring broke contain on another. Herring cleaned up his own mistake and Curry's was undone by an iffy crack back block call.

29. Staying uncharacteristic, Herring blew coverage on the next play.

28. He dropped and that allowed Forte to come free underneath.

Jaguars at Seahawks October 11

He dropped into coverage again on the second play of the Jaguars second drive. It was a fun looking blitz that failed miserably. Tapp and opposing end Jackson dropped into curl zones, and Seattle's three linebackers attempted a complex, layered blitz. It snagged when Will Herring couldn't power through the pile and pressure Garrard. In fact, he fell. It's one those moments you miss Leroy Hill. Jackson tackled Holt from behind 25-yards down the field. I'll talk Jackson at some point, but he is an excellent athlete and his progress as a pass rusher is exciting. Very exciting.

Highlights

Seahawks at 49ers September 20

  • Will Herring did his coverage thing. He broke on a short pass to Michael Robinson and was running him into the backfield before he could make a field move. It was Lofa Tatupu's zone, but Herring made a faster read and was faster to his man. Tatupu wasn't 80%. I doubt he was 50%.

Star-divide

Bears at Seahawks September 27

31. Will Herring looped around two lead blockers to get a glancing blow low on Forte.

30. It worked and Seattle's backup backers dropped Forte for a loss of two.

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The first play is a run stuff in the first drive of the first quarter.

Indianapolis led the NFL in single back sets. It ran 62%* of the time when it aligned with two tight ends and a single back, third in the NFL. The Colts run stretch plays and this play was a stretch right by the Bears.

Patrick Kerney is controlling the left "C" and "B" gaps. Colin Cole is at the one tech, controlling the left "A" gap. Brandon Mebane is over the right "B" gap and Cory Redding is controlling the right "C" and "D" gaps. Middle linebacker David Hawthorne is controlling the right "A" gap.

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Indianapolis will move its offensive line right. It wants to create a run lane where Seattle is weakest. That is the right "A" gap, controlled by a linebacker, the outside right and the cutback lane, the left "D" gap. The center is able to pull into the second level.

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Ken Lucas reads run and sprints down to contain the left "D" gap. Will Herring raps around right end and contains the right "D" gap. Hawthorne hits the center in the hole and stops his lead block. Forte picks the right "A" gap. Curry has a direct line to Forte and tackles him after three.

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Titans at Seahawks January 3

Every formation, every down, is a potential run, and Chris Johnson's quest for the record is keeping Seattle in the game.

Titans set two wide, tight end (right), offset I (left). The left wide receiver is playing tight, essentially in the slot. Seattle is in a 4-3 over, with weakside linebacker Will Herring just outside one-tech Colin Cole's right shoulder.

Snap.

The offensive line moves hard right. Seattle pursues. It creates a sizable cutback lane left. Herring rushes forward and is nearly lost in the pile. Johnson runs a lightning bolt shape off tackle and is building speed towards the third level. Kelly Jennings closes from the left. Herring closes from the right, has a bad angle, puts a glancing hit on Johnson, but ever so subtly, grips and rips the point of the ball and sends the pigskin flying forward away from Johnson and right to Deon Grant. From a fundamentals standpoint, that's a bad angle made good with a fluke strip. From a game state standpoint, that's a dangerous looking run turned into a turnover. Seattle's win probability jumps to 62%.

Outlook: I'm a pretty big Will Herring fan. He has some obvious limitations as a run stopper. His instincts close to the line are a bit undeveloped and he tends to react to first action and take himself out of position. That's bad, because he's slight and if he misreads, he has a heck of a time working through the pile to get back into the play. Mostly, he doesn't. He doesn't work through trash, he doesn't blitz gaps and he doesn't shed blockers.

He's a nimble and active coverage linebacker that squares in space and is an able open-field tackler. Herring has enough value as a three-down player that he serves as quality depth, but his true value is found in his ability as a nickel linebacker. When the play is probably a pass, I'd take Herring on the field over David Hawthorne or Leroy Hill. He reads well, reacts well, has good hands and excellent agility.

Hawthorne and Hill will battle it out for starting weakside linebacker. Whoever wins the spot, and it's likely to be Hawthorne, but don't discount Hill's starter inertia or contract, it would be heartening to see Herring still see some snaps. He's more of a specialist, but not so weak against the run as to be a liability, and strong enough in coverage to be an asset on passing downs.

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John: any intuiton on Kam Chancellor's role this year?

You think he’ll actually play any safety this year? Or primarily special teams to start off?

Your idea regarding the symbiotic pairing of playing the Chancellor/Herring pair is intriguing. I just wonder how effective they’d be right now seeing as they’re both young, mostly inexperienced players.

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Jun 21, 2010 1:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Depends on a lot of things.

Chance could seize the position. Law could get hurt. Law could prove ineffective. Adams could step up. I think Chancellor has the inside path to starting strong safety, but he needs to step up.

by John Morgan on Jun 21, 2010 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

You think so? Very cool.

Honestly, I really like his style of Safety, and I was VERY excited when we drafted “Taylor Mays Lite”.

I hope he steps up in camp/preseason and is able to win a job @ safety.

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Jun 21, 2010 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Norton Jr's influence..

John, do you have any insights as to what, specifically, Ken Norton will bring to our linebackers? Or will that be part of a broader, defensive analysis series? I don’t know much about him outside of wikipedia and the solid linebackers that have come from that program. It seems though, that he could be a big puzzle piece, especially with our younger LBs.

by Dizzy Saturn on Jun 21, 2010 1:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Nothing specific at this time.

Maybe I will look into it, but pinpointing the impact of a position coach is always hard.

by John Morgan on Jun 21, 2010 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Chicago will move its offensive line right."

Indianapolis?

Interestin piece tho. Herring is relatively anonymous but sure looks like an interesting role/depth player.

by Thomas Beekers on Jun 21, 2010 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Haha, so doing something "easy" is a lowlight?

I’d have thought it a bad play if Herring didn’t recover the fumble…

by djafrot on Jun 21, 2010 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Again, we're back to the best scenario being a platoon.

Herring/Hawthorne makes for a pretty good team, I’d think. Herring for pass downs, Hawthorne for run downs. Why keep Hill around at all, considering the controversy and injuries?

by djafrot on Jun 21, 2010 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

As exciting as Hawthorne and Herring are

I still feel our best three linebackers are Hill, Tats and Curry. Anyway you slice it I’d want those proven guys (Curry not so much but I don’t think there is any question on his talents) on the field at any given time. Herring and Hawthorne look to be great players but are not better than any of those players. Excellent depth and with Hill and Tatupus injury issues they will likely see plenty of time, A healthy Hill-Tats-Curry> Hill-Thorne-Curry, Herring-Tats Curry, or Hill-Tats-Herring. Interestingly, however, Hill-Tats-Curry<GodKing Nick Reed< Our Lord John Carlson< My Hero Walter Jones. Just for perspective.

by Fightfightfight on Jun 21, 2010 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

I think Hawthorne and Herring are fantastic situational, rotational LBs

That could potentially start on other NFL teams. I’m glad our LB corps is strong enough to have guys like that on the bench.

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Jun 21, 2010 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

With the new D scheme

I wonder if Curry will be blitzing more and Herring/Hawthorne will see the field in a 3-4 hybrid.

by stufr on Jun 21, 2010 3:33 PM PDT reply actions  

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