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Another Free Talent Worthy A Look: Antonio Pittman

In my continuing quest to improve Seattle's running back talent, I present another freely available player Seattle should sign and run through his paces: Antonio Pittman. Some projected Pittman as a second round talent prior to the 2007 draft, but he fell to the fourth. He was drafted by New Orleans but cut as a rookie (in favor of Pierre Thomas.)

Pittman then signed with the Rams and played for St. Louis in 2007 and 2008. He was not great by any stretch, but no rusher succeeded for St. Louis in 2007 and 2008, and Pittman was not a standout failure by any stretch either. Runs by Pittman averaged 3.7 and 3.8 yards per carry to Steven Jackson's 4.2 and 4.1, or, to put it another way, runs by Pittman averaged -8.7% and -4.9% to Jackson's -7.4% and -2.5% DVOA in 2007 and 2008. Fairly comparable, and Pittman was not just a change of pace back. He had five starts in 2008. He played for a broken team and was not able to overcome his surrounding talent. Old story.

Seattle's interest in Pittman lies in not what he has done, but what kind of rusher he is and what he is capable of. Pittman is a one-cut rusher with good speed through the hole. He looks fluid rather than fast, and his speed doesn't flash approaching the hole or running away from defenders, but in a zone blocking scheme, it's all about the ability to explode through the crease, and Pittman excels at that ability. He is an inside rusher that can receive a little and pass block a little. Basically, he can play three downs if he needs to. I think that completeness is part of the allure of Jones. Seattle believes that if it had to, it could probably rely entirely on Jones as its running back. Pittman has feature back potential and is well suited for a one-cut and go rushing attack.

There is no free lunch in the NFL, and apart from a some minor struggles, if Pittman had no other warts he wouldn't be available. Like other backs that otherwise fit Seattle's system, Jeremiah Johnson and Chris Henry, for instance, Pittman would be stashed on another team's roster. He isn't. Pittman is a free agent and did not play organized football in 2009. He clashed with Jim Tressel at Ohio State and when it seemed like he might lose snaps to Beanie Wells, forwent his senior season and declared for the draft. He skipped practice after his 23 birthday (oh no) and was called out to be more productive by interim head coach Jim Haslett. A call to be "more productive" is always a meaningful expectation, and not at all a hasty attempt to command respect by an interim head coach. I would guess, reading the tea leaves, that Pittman is a "malcontent" that doesn't play well with authoritarian types. Again, oh. no.

Luckily, Camp Carroll provides a home for wayward talent that just wants to compete. I kid, but an open mind about second chances is perhaps the quality I most respect about Pete Carroll. Assuming Pittman hasn't gone to seed, he deserves a second chance. Given how well he fits the system, I think Pittman has better raw potential as a rusher than even Marshawn Lynch. Running back, seemingly above all other positions, produces surprise contributors every season. The reason seems clear to me: At best, we can understand how a running back interacts with his teammates. It's next to impossible to know purely how good the rusher himself is. Running back produces surprise contributors every season: Ryan Grant, Jamaal Charles, Cedric Benson, Ricky Williams, Michael Turner, Marion Barber, Maurice Jones-Drew, Justin Forsett, Pierre Thomas and Ahmad Bradshaw; All mid-, late-round or undrafted players, or reclamation projects no longer with their drafted team, and nine of the top twenty running backs as ranked by DYAR. Rushers surprise, and I would love for the latest surprise to play for the Seahawks.

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Hard to call Michael Turner a "surprise" but obviously he exceeded expectations

Aside from that I agree. Pittman is certainly worth a try. Part of the problem might be that, on paper at least or in the eyes of the new regime, none of the available backs are any better than Jones. Pittman is probably better than Louis Rankin but that doesn’t get him past JJ and onto the 53.

by lemonverbena on Jul 19, 2010 9:47 AM PDT reply actions  

It's premature to talk about the 53 man roster

I would be happy with a tryout. Preseason action would leave me beaming.

by John Morgan on Jul 19, 2010 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Totally

I wish they would tryout/sign 15 running backs to knock Jones off the roster. Just seems like they would have made that move already.

by lemonverbena on Jul 19, 2010 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I found a highlight from 2008

It’s about :25 into the radio calls video. The 2nd one down.
http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2008111610/2008/REG11/rams@49ers#tab:watch

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Jul 19, 2010 10:24 AM PDT reply actions  

No Need for any RB

Have you guys not looked at who the Seahawks have in their backfield. Justin Forsett, Julius Jones, and Leon Washington. All 3 of these guys can be used in every game, and we will do great. Not only that Louis Rankin is also competeing for a roster spot. Which if you watch him run, you would be excited about him as well. So no need to look at RB’s to fill. Let’s just make sure our O Line can stay healthy, which will keep Matt up right, and the WR’s that we have not drop passes. Then our O can do some work.

by Dickedoo on Jul 19, 2010 12:59 PM PDT reply actions  

they can do great

but can they do better than great.

Nonsense, Poopy-Pants!

by Lo Pann on Jul 19, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was excited for about three plays when he started.

I remember calling him TANK RANKIN’ and then pretty much as soon as I coined it he started to suck. Dammit.

by djafrot on Jul 19, 2010 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah what happened to his killer speed?

One of the many disappointments of 2009.

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by Cheddar28 on Jul 19, 2010 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

He was supposed to have killer speed?

Sure doesn’t look like it. Mind you, on the football field, he does have to change direction occasionally.

by djafrot on Jul 19, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

The pace of tryouts seems to have slowed considerably

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 19, 2010 1:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Running out of guys who haven't already been signed.

Plus ya know, there haven’t been practices.

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Jul 19, 2010 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another guy I've been thinking about is DeDe Dorsey.

If he misses the cut with Cincy behind Benson, Scott, and Leonard he may not make the team. He seems similar to Pittman and has some quicks for his size.

That statement about Pittman vs. Lynch was bold. I like it, but don’t agree.

Chris Henry couldn’t beat out Moats or UDFA Arian Foster for snaps with Houston, regardless of being previously buried in Tennessee.

Red Bryant: surprise us!

by Misfit74 on Jul 19, 2010 5:04 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

DeDe Dorsey!

From Hard Knocks!

[DELETED ZOMG NO POLITICS]

by bluemax on Jul 19, 2010 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Another guy, who I think is a lot like Force

is Gary Russell, only he’s bigger (#215). I always thought of him as a powerful back, quick and tough through the hole but lacking a fifth gear. He was in situations in Pittsburgh and Oakland, stuck at the end of the depth chart in offenses that weren’t great fits.

He actually is what many people think LenDale White is: tough in short yardage and goal line but with enough quicks to get to the edge.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 20, 2010 10:56 AM PDT reply actions  

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